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Alright guys, I've found another new technique, this time on the shape body theory thing. I tried drawing shapes over some of the characters in printed out DBZ scenes or character references I've had. It's like sketching the pose and shapes step in reverse, where I take the complete thing and break it down into simple objects. Then I drew this, Super Saiyan God Goku in the DBEW Gi I made him.

Now this DOES NOT confirm that he'll be using that form in my manga, rather I drew this for the heck of it. Also, that he probably won't be using it because of some valid points of the form. The following is supported by facts spoken during its usage/movie, and through interview of Toriyama himself. (No I didn't meet him, I'm just using quotes from an interview.)

1.) The form drains power very quickly, and that is what is meant by a "time limit." Also, Goku hated how he needed everyone to help him ascend to use the form. As for the time limit, it's almost impossible without a special formula to determine how long Goku managed to stay within the SSG transformation in the movie (counting from the moment he first became one, to the part where he went back to normal).

2.) From the looks of things, it's as though Super Saiyan God is not permanent, even if people have once been somehow convinced to believe it is. This however can be proven wrong should some plausible facts be mentioned anytime soon. But even so, Beerus/Bills stated that the form causing massive energy drain when it wears down can be overcome when it was found out that Goku's body absorbed some of the godlike power from the form. Not only that, but Toriyama stated that by doing this, Goku's initial strength had increased as well, making all of his forms much stronger, allowing his Base and SSJ state to stay on par with Beerus/Bills for the battle's remainder. To me, it's as if Goku has his potential unlocked like how the late Guru did it to Gohan and Krillin. (It happens to Goku but was non-canon as it only happened in Budokai 3, a video game.) Toriyama made this statement to assure that with Goku much stronger after the intentional, or unintentional absorbing of the form's power would probably never need to use the actual form again.

3.) Goku actually uses this form one more time, but only for a short time. It was when he heard the voices of his friends and family back on Earth when he was losing to Bills/Beerus' ultimate attack that could destroy Earth and everyone on it. It was rather short because Super Saiyan God can absorb energy attacks, but at the cost of the user's energy. With the amount needed to cancel the attack added with the condition Goku was in, there wasn't enough energy to keep him in the form for a long amount of time. If Goku were to use this form on a DBEW villain, he'd have to be serious the whole way, or carry a Senzu Bean or two, as there is a huge chance that (as it was intended to be like Toriyama's intended for the movie) Goku only used the form once, in the events of the movie and no time after. The form has a potential of being mastered just like Super Saiyan itself, but if Goku never attempted that after the fight with Bills/Beerus, there would still be a side effect or two (as warned by Shenron, who granted the wish of explaining about the form).

4.) Lastly, it is currently hard to truly know if Super Saiyan 4 is stronger than Super Saiyan God, or even how much power Goku could've had in the form's full potential. Yes, Goku was holding back the whole time. He mentioned to Bills/Beerus in a dialogue segment that he was using only 80% of the form's power. Yet hearing that, this actually surprised Beerus/Bills! Nonetheless, it wasn't long before… perhaps over 10 seconds after the battle resumed that the form wore off. In fact, Goku never knew that until he was struggling with Bills/Beerus' ultimate move in space until reminded! Now, MalikStudios showed this multiplier of the SSG form in a journal once, which was stated as the Base power multiplied by 500,000. If we were to know of how much power Goku could've had at 100% in the movie, had he not held back, if we could compare that to SSJ4 if he could've used that in the movie, only then would a true answer be clear. What I do know is that Toriyama compared Goku, Beerus/Bills, and Whis in strength by using simple numbers. Goku as a 6, Bills/Beerus as a 10, and Whis a 15.

So with all that said, it is currently debatable if it would be a good idea to have Goku use this in my manga. Especially because there will be an Ascended SSJ4 and SSJ5 included in the story (my own versions). However, as of now, enjoy the fanart! Oh, and this guy pre-ordered Battle of Z!

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Description
Alright guys, I've found another new technique, this time on the shape body theory thing. I tried drawing shapes over some of the characters in printed out DBZ scenes or character references I've had. It's like sketching the pose and shapes step in reverse, where I take the complete thing and break it down into simple objects. Then I drew this, Super Saiyan God Goku in the DBEW Gi I made him.

Now this DOES NOT confirm that he'll be using that form in my manga, rather I drew this for the heck of it. Also, that he probably won't be using it because of some valid points of the form. The following is supported by facts spoken during its usage/movie, and through interview of Toriyama himself. (No I didn't meet him, I'm just using quotes from an interview.)

1.) The form drains power very quickly, and that is what is meant by a "time limit." Also, Goku hated how he needed everyone to help him ascend to use the form. As for the time limit, it's almost impossible without a special formula to determine how long Goku managed to stay within the SSG transformation in the movie (counting from the moment he first became one, to the part where he went back to normal).

2.) From the looks of things, it's as though Super Saiyan God is not permanent, even if people have once been somehow convinced to believe it is. This however can be proven wrong should some plausible facts be mentioned anytime soon. But even so, Beerus/Bills stated that the form causing massive energy drain when it wears down can be overcome when it was found out that Goku's body absorbed some of the godlike power from the form. Not only that, but Toriyama stated that by doing this, Goku's initial strength had increased as well, making all of his forms much stronger, allowing his Base and SSJ state to stay on par with Beerus/Bills for the battle's remainder. To me, it's as if Goku has his potential unlocked like how the late Guru did it to Gohan and Krillin. (It happens to Goku but was non-canon as it only happened in Budokai 3, a video game.) Toriyama made this statement to assure that with Goku much stronger after the intentional, or unintentional absorbing of the form's power would probably never need to use the actual form again.

3.) Goku actually uses this form one more time, but only for a short time. It was when he heard the voices of his friends and family back on Earth when he was losing to Bills/Beerus' ultimate attack that could destroy Earth and everyone on it. It was rather short because Super Saiyan God can absorb energy attacks, but at the cost of the user's energy. With the amount needed to cancel the attack added with the condition Goku was in, there wasn't enough energy to keep him in the form for a long amount of time. If Goku were to use this form on a DBEW villain, he'd have to be serious the whole way, or carry a Senzu Bean or two, as there is a huge chance that (as it was intended to be like Toriyama's intended for the movie) Goku only used the form once, in the events of the movie and no time after. The form has a potential of being mastered just like Super Saiyan itself, but if Goku never attempted that after the fight with Bills/Beerus, there would still be a side effect or two (as warned by Shenron, who granted the wish of explaining about the form).

4.) Lastly, it is currently hard to truly know if Super Saiyan 4 is stronger than Super Saiyan God, or even how much power Goku could've had in the form's full potential. Yes, Goku was holding back the whole time. He mentioned to Bills/Beerus in a dialogue segment that he was using only 80% of the form's power. Yet hearing that, this actually surprised Beerus/Bills! Nonetheless, it wasn't long before… perhaps over 10 seconds after the battle resumed that the form wore off. In fact, Goku never knew that until he was struggling with Bills/Beerus' ultimate move in space until reminded! Now, MalikStudios showed this multiplier of the SSG form in a journal once, which was stated as the Base power multiplied by 500,000. If we were to know of how much power Goku could've had at 100% in the movie, had he not held back, if we could compare that to SSJ4 if he could've used that in the movie, only then would a true answer be clear. What I do know is that Toriyama compared Goku, Beerus/Bills, and Whis in strength by using simple numbers. Goku as a 6, Bills/Beerus as a 10, and Whis a 15.

So with all that said, it is currently debatable if it would be a good idea to have Goku use this in my manga. Especially because there will be an Ascended SSJ4 and SSJ5 included in the story (my own versions). However, as of now, enjoy the fanart! Oh, and this guy pre-ordered Battle of Z!

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