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Like with Bebi Janenba and Buu with Kibitoshin absorbed, another new transformation. Since I'm not doing individual sheets anymore, I figured I'd put this one up even though it isn't as unique as the previous two. Hell, I'm sure there are thousands of fan arts of this form out there already.Despite the fact that I actually like this one, I have no idea what I'll be doing with him for Redux. Sadly, making Vegeta this strong at the beginning of the Buu Arc would seem like a major ass pull and would also ruin the entire plot moving forward. But, enslaving him under the same curse a second time is poor writing...
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maybe you can have babidi grant vegeta more power in return of vegeta obeying him, but it wouldn't work on our prideful prince, so instead of killing goku, he just knocks him out, and goes to fight buu... after vegeta gets tired of fighting with buu in ssj2 level, he uses the form in hopes of crushing buu (he assumes that buu is weak and that he doesn't need to be any stronger, but he's proven wrong later on), the strain it puts on his tired body halfway in the transformation weakens him and reverts him back into ssj2, where he'll decide to do the ultimate sacrifice.
once he's revived i guess you could have him use it against super buu, but it would be useless. with goku being passed out during vegeta's transformation, he is unaware that vegeta was about to transform, the others are aware and are surprised that goku succeeded, because he wasn't tired when he attempted it as opposed to vegeta. in their fight with super buu vegeta explains that he got the ability against majin buu but was unable to use it due to his body.
that's the best explanation i can give for vegeta to use the form in his controlled state.
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And alllllll of the Vegeta fanboys go wild, right, dude? XD
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As long as they like SS4...
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That, and if they accept GT as an acceptable continuation of DBZ, right?
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Meh. I don't think so. I know a few people that outright hate GT to an unhealthy level, butΒ like GT characters and would flip out at this trailer.
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Yeah, good point you got there.
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I'm sure you will be able to find a place for this.
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Perhaps I'll find a place, but it won't be where I wanna put it. lol
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No, that's all we have:Β the-devils-corpse.deviantart.cβ¦
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I agree with the whole plot dilemma, and while I personally like the art as well as the form, they're going overboard with SSJ3 in my opinion.
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I didn't want it, but I like it...
Just...other than SS Pan, I want SS2 Gogeta, SS4 Vegetto and SS3: Goten (GT). I like balance. Give me those and then I'll stop caring. I'll accept whatever they decide to create after them and I'll only bitch about it in regards to my own plot problems. lol
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I know right? Ah, they'll figure something out hopefully...
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Tough call indeed. Still, it is badass.
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I don't disagree. I'm curious if we'll see him animated next commercial...
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That would be nice.
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In Shin Budokai, Janenba is able to create a duplicate of Vegeta's evil side, which is Majin Vegeta. You can give that one the power up... dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Janemba's_Majin_Vegeta
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I know, but that's...dumb. lol
Plus Bebi Janenba is forcing the Janenba stuff to happen in GT, which defeats the purpose of having Maoji Z Vegeta use SS3.
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hummm... Vegeta's soul arrives in heaven, and he's still a Maoji because Babidi's not dead yet. He sees from Hell Goku become SSJ3, and in anger achieves the same power... but he isn't able to achieve it during his fight with Kid Buu, because he thinks it only comes with the Majin power up... psychological blocking and all...
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Hmm. I could buy him gaining it, but not the reasoning for the block. He's Vegeta. After seeing Goku use SS3, he'd know it could be done without Babidi, and he'd try. He'd do nothing but try until he succeeded.Β He's a stubborn bastard.
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yes, but meanwhile, he would be put in hell by king Enma, thus never having the time to actually train to achieve the form... and the second he is brought back to life, there is no time to try and achieve it... stress and lack of time may be factors to include (i guess?)
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Piccolo tells him he'll go to hell, but he never actually ends up there. Enma says in the series itself that he kept Vegeta around with a body in case he could prove useful against Buu later. He'd have over 24 hours, already technically achieved the form and a body that doesn't have mortal stresses, etc.
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true, true...!
Then maybe it can be a hypotetical transformation. Granted, Vegeta already knew of Super Saiyan 2. He could even achieve it before becoming a Maoji. But that's what he thought was the limit at the time. SSJ1, SSJ2 and then it's done. Babidi's power gives a power up, but Vegeta only thinks it applies to the limit he already knows: he is by far more powerful than he ever was, so he considers this is as far as it can get because he doesn't know of SSJ3. Had he known of SSJ3, he could've gone there, beyond these limits he already achieved. But since his imagination couldn't grasp the existence of such a form, then he didn't achieve it... Basically. He could've. But he didn't cuz he didn't know about it... and after seeing Goku's SSJ3, he still didn't do it, because he figured his power couldn't augment anymore as he was dead...
So this is to what extent Babidi's power up could have boosted him, if he had known the existence of the form.
And that's all I got... (huff puff)
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That could probably work, but I think I may just save myself the hassle and toss the form in another timeline. That way I just don't have to care what the ripple effect of the change might be.
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does this last one seem plausible?
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not heaven, otherworld...
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dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Janemba's_Majin_Vegeta
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that picture you showed of the DB heros manga, where did you find it, i wanna read it ~
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You can't. There was only one other picture. The chapter hasn't been scanned yet.
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oh i see. damnit
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I know where you can find theΒ chapter it out now mageae me I will tell you where to find ok
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go to goggle type Β Saikyou Jump -jnae 2014 | FacebookΒ then go there vlick on back to albem then clik on photos you will find it 
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or you could just link me straight to the page instead, that works tooΒ
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dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragβ¦Β that take you there
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thank you ^^
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any timeΒ Β
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If I were you, I would just make it so that Vegeta learns Super Sayain 3 a couple weeks before the tournament and uses it in his fight against Goku. Or you could have it take place during the time travel arc where Miira messes things up and causes Vegeta to fall under the curse again but this time, he gets a power boost.
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That first part is what ruins everything. Like I said in another comment:
I like to give all plausible forms to the characters in the main timeline, and this one is certainly plausible. I'd just have to do the reverse of what most fans believe and have Babidi unlock SS3 for Vegeta during the enslavement and potential unlock (instead of them thinking he granted him SS2).
But, in terms of a good story, the only way I can think of making this fit and not seem ass-pully is to shove it on a Vegeta from a different timeline, like during the DBO time machine quests. Because having Vegeta enslaved by the same spell again would be horrible writing and Β having Goku and Vegeta battling as SS3 during the Buu Arc would screw up everything by making Vegeta strong enough to defeat Buu when he first challenges him and take away Goku's time on Earth during their duel as well. Which also means no fusion training for the kids to form Gotenks, no Elder Kaioshin,Β no Ultimate Gohan,Β no revived Goku, no Vegetto, etc.
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You could make SS3 Goku/Vegeta weaker than Fat Boo. The only change would be that Pure Boo is weaker than Fat Boo and Goku really can't beat Boo in their fight instead of deciding not to.Β
Otherwise, maybe it could happen in Trunks' timeline. Vegeta comes back for a day to try and help Trunks (or something), but without his character development he can't resist Babidi's charm (lol phrasing) and then falls under it. He already has Super Saiyan 3 from his Otherworld training.
Or, and here's a batshit insane idea, maybe the charm has lingering effects on him and later it resurfaces in a time of need to draw out more of his hidden power, granting him Super Saiyan 3. Could be a one time deal, or it might be something you can reuse. I don't know how you're planning on adapting his big scene in BoG but it could even be used there (not necessarily with Super Saiyan 3 as well though).
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It would change more than just Pure Buu's power and Goku not being able to beat him at first. If Goku ends up needing to fight at SS3 while confronting Maoji Vegeta, Goku would probably end up wasting all of his time on Earth for the day. It didn't take much against Buu to drain him of almost all of it to begin with, and he was just playing around to stall for time there. I know I could just change that, but there are somethings that I'd like to keep in place after considering all the other changes being made. I mean, I'll change it if I have to, but I rather not if I can avoid it...
Part of the problem though, is just the ass pull portion of it. I mean, there would be so much happening is such a small period of time. Goku and Vegeta are Super Saiyans. Goku might have surpassed that! Vegeta has too, but is jealous that he still didn't catch up to Goku! Vegeta allows himself to fall under Babidi's control to even the odds! Vegeta abd Goku fight using SS2! Vegeta ended up with SS3?! Goku has SS3 too!
Hoestly, I wasn't planning on using any of the old heroes, besides Gohan, for fighting in Trunks' timeline. And without his character development up into the Buu Arc, I'm pretty sure Vegeta would be rotting in hell? Probably? Though I'm lol-ing at the idea of Babidi charming Vegeta into working for him. xD
I dunno, maybe. Even if he doesn't actually become enslaved a second time, does having the wizard's curse playing the role of plot device like that more than once sound appealing? Does giving a random power up to Vegeta in a dire moment or whatever sound like a good idea? I'm not so certain. If it were a new character, sure. That could be his "gimmick" ala Saiyans and their transformations. But, I'm talking about just in regards to Vegeta specifically, especially with all his good guy development in the latter half of the series. Genuinely curious...
To answer the question though, I wasn't really planning on doing anything special for his BOG scene, other than just swapping SS3 in there and thus drastically decreasing the power increase he got from releasing everything in that short, explosive combo. Not even a x2...
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Yeah, I don't like the idea of SS3 appearing earlier either. When it actually appears already causes some retcons and problems, and SS2 is still supposed to be a big deal at that point. If it appeared during the Vegeta/Goku battle it'd be balls to the wall insane.
I forgot about Hell. Maybe Goku had the Otherworld people give Vegeta a body as a favour, just so he could fight someone in Otherworld? Only way it could work I suppose.
Well, I had thought of the idea of Vegeta keeping the charm around as his own "thing" some time ago and liked the idea to capitalize on the only unique transformation he got. It serving as a random power up might be a little cheap, depending on how convenient the circumstances are.
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Yeah, I think it's all just more of a reason to throw it in another timeline. DBO is prime for this stuff, so why not take advantage of it?
Oh, BTW! It seems even Heroes doesn't know what they are doing, or they don't care. The game mission had the Buff Buu absorb Kibitoshin, but the fusion cards this set is just Pure Buu absorbing him. So I can apparently say the hell with it and have whatever form of Buu absorb him wherever I throw him too.
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Oh, I had totally forgotten about DBO's multiple timelines. For sure, that'd be the best way to deal with it.
So make it Oob (Kaioshin absorbed) for the lulz.
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