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The biggest ships in the fleet, the Aero-Carrier can haul ten rotorcraft (airplanes) anywhere needed.Related content
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I really liked how you considered these things to be airborne- so they have to be lightweight. It is an intriguing concept for two zeppelins to share the weight of a meshed runway. Though I have a couple comments- in real life zeppelins had planes on their bottom- youtu.be/VNOusZLO7y4 . Also why are you always using monoplanes? If zeppelins still exist, wouldnβt the proven dogfighting abilities, & natural strengths be more beneficial when range & canopy isnβt a concern? legionmagazine.com/en/2020/08/β¦ youtu.be/PTO3JagV8gE
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But you kind of were stating my point about monoplanes- that not just were they tough sturdy dogfighters but also according to Wikipedia β Biplanes offer several advantages over conventional cantilever monoplane designs: they permit lighter wing structures, low wing loading and smaller span for a given wing area. β. In essence the only advantage to a monoplane seems to be speed, but as long as your fantasy drawings end between 1939-1951 ( where though generally uncompetitive, they were still used in many roles, apparently with one even taking out a jet in the Korean war!). But before then especially before 1929- they seemed to have had a distinct advantage- especially with weight & length.
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Iβm unfamiliar with the ZRS program, what was it?
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damn nice concept but i think even if they were built they can't have a great airplane capacity and they're better in refuel the long range bombers and their escort something like the U-boot typ XIV in WW2
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I can agree with that. Perhaps the true issue, if one was to built such a flying airfield, is that the nature of LTA would want the heaviest part of the ship on the bottom. One would need some serious counterweight system to keep the airstrip, and the ship itself, from rolling over.
Fanciful ideas, although certainly not practical.
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right but we can stil dream and imagine when we have nothing else to do . but i have a question about the zeppelin : how much are they resistant because they look like they need just one bullet and all the heluim go away and it's over
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On the contrary, rigid airships are very hard to shoot down. For example, during the First World War, British fighter pilots could dump both of the drums of ammunition into a German zeppelin with very little consequence to the airship. The hydrogen would escape so slowly, due to it's relative pressure to the air, that the zeppelin would be solidly capable of returning home again. The game changer, at least in terms of WWI, came when the Brits started using incendiary bullets to light the hydrogen on fire. Naturally, this made short work of many an airship. Even more-so, helium filled airships would be nearly immune to any attempt to "sink" the ship. Helium would, conveniently, extinguish explosive rounds that penetrate the gas cells.
Especially in context to the rigid type ship, the airship can be rather difficult to knock out of the sky. One would be better off trying to destroy an airship's control surfaces, command and engine gondolas, or possibly wrecking the airframe to the point of failure.
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wow i didn't realise that . that's why the germans use it in many times for bombing behind the ennemy lines during the great war . thank you for the answer
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Did everyone try to build something like this in real life?
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Well, closest anyone came was the US Navy:
www.airships.net/us-navy-rigidβ¦
Those ships were relatively huge, but ill-fated. Although I personally think the concept could be revived as a drone carrier.
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I like the system used on USS Akron and USS Macon, the only flying aircraft carriers the US Navy had.Β Instead of a runway, there was a hatch in the hangar deck, through which fighters were dropped like bombs.Β Recovery was by a hook on the fighter's upper wing engaging a trapeze-like gadget that was then hauled inboard on a rail.Β The last version of Sparrowhawk fighter didn't even have wheels.Β What killed the airship program wasn't the rapid improvement of airplanes, but the terrible vulnerability of large LTA ships to foul weather.Β Akron and Macon were both wrecked in thunderstorms.
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The-Necromancer is very familiar with the ZRS ships. They were most amazing vessels, and one can only imagine how they may have influenced the War in the Pacific had they survived into the 1940s. Likely, radar would have made them obsolete regardless, but to think of what usefulness they could have had early on...
Actually, The-Necromancer has often speculated about a modern version of the ZRS program. Drone carriers. Interesting thought, that, although likely impractical to most current military minds, what with the GPS and the other satellite systems, so on and so forth...
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this reminded me a picture from a popular mechanics magazine from the past.. only it doubled..
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I know that one! Yeah, that was a bit of inspiration, actually. The other half of the inspiration was the multi-hulled airships of ~donaguirre .
I got a whole back story to the conflict between the Grand Duchy of Lynxia (this air carrier is part of their fleet) and the militaristic nation of Greater Valet. It culminates in an airship battle that is part Jutland, part Trafalgar. I give out little bits and pieces of that story from time to time, but I doubt I'll ever tell the whole thing.
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this is a stunning drawing! I wish I had one of these!
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I picked up "Sky Captain and the World of tomorrow" on DVD the other day and this giant reminds me of the huge flying base commanded by "Frankie" (Angelina Jolie). The point is: yours is far more realistic. I wonder, whether the US ever considered a landing deck similar to naval carrier decks, when they came up with the Akron/Macon project. And no, I won't steal the concept 
Very nice imagination !
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Oh I adore that movie, even if "Frankie's" ships are HTA. The Hindenburg III sequence and the various other ships seen early in the movie are worth it alone. As far as the US Navy ever considering a flight deck on the top of an airship, there was no such interest in the 1930s. However, I remember seeing something from the 1950s with the Air Force wanting to do such a thing. Their design was mostly for mild press interest, and it wouldn't have flown.
I'm glad you like my design, and I'd be flattered to see what you could do with the concept if you'd like. I sometimes toy around with this design a bit yet, but I admit my artistic talent is light years behind what you do. Feel free to borrow from it if you want.
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Now y'see, that would actually fly! And look great whilst doing it!
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Yes, it could fly. It would have to be huge as hell, but it would fly!
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Aren't big airships the best kind?
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I firmly believe that if an airship is to be truly practical, it must be BIG!!!
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Now that's a theory to live by
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OMFG!! awesome sketches!! O:
Love the birds too
very cool :3
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thank you.^___^
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nice looks like two of the airship from modern mechanix conected.
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Thanks! Yes, it is an old picture, but a bit of effort was put into it.
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It is a vague story set through the a half dozen airship pieces I've posted. I have yet to actually write about the whole timeline and it's events, but that is to come!
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Likewise! Sounds fascintating!
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Looking forward to it!
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