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Published: 2017-06-09 21:10:07 +0000 UTC; Views: 3131; Favourites: 64; Downloads: 1
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Description Yay im back in berlin!

This underrated theropod from southern england is among the first ever found and is the reason the Chrystal Palace Megalosaurus has a hump, because they thought at that time that it belongs to Megalosaurus. It is only known by a few elongated vertebrae. It is now thought to be a close relative of eigther Acrocanthosaurus or Concavenator, me agreeing on the latter, giving it a carcharodontosaur skull and face armor as suggested by (thereby this is also part of the #paleoideascontest :

105697.deviantart.com/journal/…

With so little to go on I got highly speculative, experimenting with the hump shape. With no real size estimate published I put it in the 9-10m size category, able to hunt the local Sauropod Haestasaurus becklesii. Mark witton drew them next to each other, though differently sized:

4.bp.blogspot.com/-wC8utIvpSDY…

Also look there a bebe
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Liopurodon4x [2020-04-25 00:45:08 +0000 UTC]

Evidence for feathers?Β 

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Liopurodon4x [2020-09-12 08:20:45 +0000 UTC]

Evidence for scales?

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Bleskobleska-Yandere [2017-06-10 11:23:44 +0000 UTC]

It looks so great (I already told you xD)

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Bleskobleska-Yandere [2017-06-10 12:15:19 +0000 UTC]

Yee thanks

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Bleskobleska-Yandere In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-06-10 16:25:56 +0000 UTC]

No problemΒ  Β 

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Bleskobleska-Yandere [2017-06-10 23:49:19 +0000 UTC]

<3

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Mr-fetish69 [2017-06-10 06:17:12 +0000 UTC]

I'm gonna be honest. Your art skills have significantly improved! Nice

(Btw I hope I didn't upset you or anything about what I said earlier but I do apologize if I did, I didn't intend to)

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Mr-fetish69 [2017-06-10 07:04:51 +0000 UTC]

Thanks verry much! Yours too!

(No you didn't, why would you?)

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Mr-fetish69 In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-06-11 07:04:40 +0000 UTC]

K brah XD

Who gives a shit about opinions? Let's just draw badass pictures and listen to brutal dubstep XD

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Mr-fetish69 [2017-06-11 12:11:19 +0000 UTC]

Lol. I just think it's fun to debate about things. Btw, can you give me some problems of evolution? It's allways a challenge for me to solve em using research and getting in convos with scientists

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Mr-fetish69 In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-06-11 18:09:19 +0000 UTC]

Sure XD

I'll give you one of my doubts. For example, I find it ridiculous how a giraffe could just grow a longer neck over thousands of years by just stretching it to reach the upper leaves. A more practical scientist would believe that this isn't possible it's more like that the giraffe would seek different vegetation (like grass), and therefore if evolution was correct, the modern giraffe should be as tall as a deer (as described in biology books). Why does it's neck grow that much for no reason? Does it stretch its neck everyday or something? If so then that's very ridiculous. Evolution is like a floating invisible brain that hovers over creatures, thinking "hmmm... If I make this creature's neck grow, then it can reach the leaves!" They say, "oh the shorter ones died off" well if that's the case then a giraffe shouldn't be that tall at all. The MOST it can possibly be is possibly a meter taller than its original average form. That's like saying if you have a civilization of of 7 foot tall basketball players, then after hundreds and thousands of years later, they are going to start being 8 foot-9 foot-10 foot tall human beings (in which isn't possible). In evolution, they say "it takes thousands of years" because nobody has even witnessed thousands of years. Also I find it insanely dumb how mammals originated (according to theory) from giant reptiles (and there is no way that a human can come from that). Dinosaurs have been around for billions of years and they haven't even invented the stick. Humans have been around for hundred thousands of years and have managed to go to space and split the atom. And the question is: why? Because dinosaurs are just animals and humans are sentient creatures and sentience can't just come out of nowhere like that. I believe that the human is a sentient creature because God intended it to be that way. A lot of religious evolutionists believe that Adam and Eve were some sort of ape-ish primate and I am quite skeptical of such

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9Weegee In reply to Mr-fetish69 [2017-07-21 00:13:23 +0000 UTC]

dude wtf are you talking about? if mammals didn't come from "giant reptiles", then what the fuck did they come from? birds?Β 

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Mr-fetish69 In reply to 9Weegee [2017-07-23 17:34:59 +0000 UTC]

Well I don't believe they came from birds either and I'm not willing to bring up the topic of religion to avoid offending people. I'm not a creationist btw and I believe that the earth is more than 4 billion years old

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Mr-fetish69 [2017-06-11 21:48:15 +0000 UTC]

Oh the llamarckian evolution theory, not the synthetic or even darwinian one. The llamarckan one is refuted for over 150 years now. But synthetic and darwinistic theory have a solution:

No, every individual is different. Even brothers and sisters are a bit different. Let's say some ancient ungulates lived in an environment similar to a savannah today. And let's say the climate changed. The droughts get longer. After a time, all ground-near plants are eaten away, and the giraffe ancestors who had just a little bit more height were able to survive. They were able to make babies, which shared the traits of their parents: in this case a longer neck, and longer legs. The next drought arrives, and again, the children with the longer legs and necks survive and can have sex. The trees on the other hand work the same: the short ones get all their leaves bitten off and die, while the ones who are taller can produce pollen in the next rainy season and make baby trees. This again puts pressure on the giraffes, of which only the tallest can reach the leaves, which again puts pressure on the tree and so on and so forth. We actually found linking species between "normal" ungulates and giraffes. One of them is the still recent Okapi (it's fucking adorable).
Evolution diagram:
www.researchgate.net/profile/D…

And I've never heard that mammals come from giant reptiles. They come from pelycosaurs, which came from small reptiles. Yes, some pelycosaurs like Dimetrodon or Moschops got huge, but these likely weren't our ancestors. More like "siblings" than "parents". We likely came from cynodonts like Oligokyphus.

And no, evolution doesn't take thousands of years. The fastest evolution happened with us, humans, in a few hundred thousand years, because we shaped it ourselves by the use of tools.

Define sentience. Is a Pavian sentient? A dolphin? An octopus? Great white? A crow? If not why? Btw these are all creatures having an approximate IQ of a 6-year-old.

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Mr-fetish69 In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-06-14 00:19:42 +0000 UTC]

A creature that is sentient is a creature that can make judgments, have morals and standards, and rely on the pure brain rather than instinct. They are creative, artistic, and innovative. An animal will kill because it needs to, but a sentient might kill because they are cruel. If those creatures you listed are "sentient" then at some point they would be able to function like humans in a way, using tools that can develop more and more and innovations. A beaver building a dam isn't innovation, it's instinct. Also I'm still not really convinced about the giraffe thing, mainly because there is a limit to how big a creature can grow. Again, if you have a civilization of 7 foot tall human people, with their shortest the ones that die off the quickest, will their ancestral offspring be a 10 foot tall human? Plus, if evolution did occur, shouldn't there be a few hybrid creatures that haven't fully evolved yet? There would be mutants in the world (kinda like the X-Men)

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Mr-fetish69 [2017-06-14 09:49:50 +0000 UTC]

No there wouldn't, because they wouldn't be able to survive that long. And I'm not talking about feet in the giraffes, but about mere milimeters per generation. If you mean spontaneous mutations, yes they do occur. you have about 100 mutations already inside you. Most of them aren't detectable tho, because they happen in deactivated genes which were active in our ancestors but not us anymore. One mutation in gene LRP5 causes the bones to become verry dense, making them verry hard to break. A family in which both parents had this mutation is known, and their children have extremely strong bones as well. There isn't a single instance of any bone breaking known in this family. More on that:

www.cracked.com/article_21013_…

Mutations like this are the reason snakes have lost their limbs and Abelisaurs have arms so small they are called landflippers by the paleo community.

For the sentience part: There are animals able of creating art, like dolphins. There's a famous example: a researcher was smoking in front of a dolphin tank, being watched by a baby dolphin. The baby then swam to its mother, got a bit of milk, swam back and releases a cloud of milk, resembling the smoke of the cigarette. Octopuses and apes as well as birds create their own tools. Elephants refuse to kill any other animal without purpose, even going so far as to take a beating themselves. And elephants are known to protect injured humans, and elephants bury their dead.

More on that:

youtu.be/NeIW4DD2u_E

youtu.be/Dh9IcMTlMko

youtu.be/Ku_GUNzXoeQ

youtu.be/Bot9c55xcEc

Although I believe we are the most sentient animal on this planet, I believe we're not the only one. Watch the vid I linked on your profile.

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Mr-fetish69 In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-06-18 21:42:07 +0000 UTC]

I don't think I ever rejected the part on animals having souls. They aren't lifeless automatons, they have a sense of consciousness. But yet again, they are only animals, meaning that they are created to do what only nature limits them to do. If a man builds a million ton tank with giant buzz saws around it and cuts down the entire Amazon forest with it, would that be "surivial of the fittest"? No because that man (human) had that consciousness to judge wether that was right or wrong and he chose wrong. Not only that, it would severely screw up the environment, killing all the nature around, meaning that an act like this could no way be a part of nature. A guy taking a dump: part of nature. A guy building a rocket to go far to space: unnatural. That the thing is that humans do things that nature has absolute no control of, and that's what sentience is: defying nature's rules to build your own set of rules. Dinosaurs have been around for billions of years and not even one of them has bothered to invent the stick. Raptors seem like they are capable of building simple tools, yet they don't because they're just animals and follow the rules of nature rather than creating their own. You see, nature controls all (but humans). Those little germs to those forest fires that lightning creates, pouring rain upon them, controlling them. There are still certain people out that try to live with the rules of nature rather than the human rules and isolate themselves from civilization because they believe that humanity isΒ disconnected from nature. Those people only take what they need and don't focus on luxuries and don't build further technologies, sorta like savage animals in a way. Just imagine, humans a couple hundred years from now may not even need a "nature" (earth) because they have built space colonies that could support human life in every way imaginableΒ 

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Mr-fetish69 [2017-06-19 12:26:35 +0000 UTC]

Wait where the hell did you get that raptors are so intelligent??? No, don't tell me jurassic park.

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Mr-fetish69 [2017-06-19 12:25:09 +0000 UTC]

And that's where you're wrong. When the dietary, safety and family needs of an animal are saturated it begins to do things it didn't do before. You can observe this in primates in the zoo. If given toys, they try to figure out what they are and what to do with them. They even create new toys from the ones humans have given them. Birds, especially corvids like crows and ravens, do the same with stuff they find in the city. That's how they found our you can use a car to crack a nut, and a traffic light to safely retrieve it. And birds are maniraptorans. Cats investigated early cities and figured out that if they play like a kitten they are given food and shelter. It's an under-concious instinct in more intelligent animals, even in humans, to investigate and learn new things, because they might save your life or give you an advantage. And even if they don't they are entertaining and training. Humans are so extreme in their psychological features that they can connect emotions to their inventions and investigations, and invent to further invent. The only psychologic difference from us to an animal is paper stuff.

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TheDerpasaur [2017-06-10 03:16:13 +0000 UTC]

he step on sm0l man

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to TheDerpasaur [2017-06-10 07:05:57 +0000 UTC]

N0

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TheDerpasaur In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-06-11 00:35:45 +0000 UTC]

n0!!!!!

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to TheDerpasaur [2017-06-13 06:51:45 +0000 UTC]

ya

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TheDerpasaur In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-06-14 00:55:19 +0000 UTC]

Β n0n

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105697 [2017-06-09 23:13:14 +0000 UTC]

Cool.

However, I think you misinterpreted my post on carcharodontosaurs and abelisaurs. Of all the carcharodontosaurids we have, only Carcharodontosaurus, Mapusaurus, and Sauroniops have a skull texture that correlates with a cornified skin covered face. All the others we can probably say had much smoother faces, and we don't even know for Beckle since all we have are some dorsal vertebrae.

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TheDubstepAddict In reply to 105697 [2017-06-10 07:05:46 +0000 UTC]

Yep. And that's why I felt free to speculate and give it the armor

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