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TheMysteriousK — If Ye Summer Changed to Winter

Published: 2007-09-13 15:53:58 +0000 UTC; Views: 5499; Favourites: 42; Downloads: 30
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Description "If the Summer changed to Winter
yours is no disgrace." (Yes)

This one cost me a lot of sleep, both in front of the computer and away from it, but I think I got there in the end.
Looking at it now, I feel it has a lot more meaning than the mere allegory of the turning of the season that I intended.
For now I just add that it has nothing to do with the wider meaning of the Yes song 'Yours is no disgrace', as far as I know at least. It's just that these two favourite lines kept echoing in my head when creating this painting got momentum, and all on their own they fit perfectly.
If you don't get it now, you might get it later, much, much later. *melancholic grin*

A big Спасйбо to ~Mart-elle , the 'virtual model' for this one. I used one of her pictures as a reference, but I'm not sure if I got her likeness right - the picture had an other expression than I wanted so I had to use my imagination. Everything else was painted out of my head, without models, reference, copy-pasting, rendering etc.

Amusing detail: at one point I got seriously stuck trying to paint these two in a nice 17th-century light inside a room. There was just this wall behind it with a skirting (US: mopboard) as its only feature... and it was so dull. And then I saw the light - the wall could be this huge sky and the skirting a very low, very wide horizon, rather like some Russian landscape painting. Woot.
Stupid me, trying to paint the seasons and the weather inside a room...

Tools: PSP7, Wacom pentablet, Irfan View.

P.S. For anyone not fluent in the good old Anglo-Saxon alphabet, for 'Ye' read 'The'. I'm not trying to be folksy, it's just that my title was one letter too long for DA's title-length-limit. It was either that or 'If the Summer Changed 2 Winter'. I think not.
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Comments: 21

WhiteSnowQueen [2016-04-20 06:55:30 +0000 UTC]

I love the fur dress. I would wear it every day of my life if I had tha chance. I like the blonde hair too. You simply made me want to be that girl <3

Also, the various jeweled belts are a lovely touch

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Furmistress [2010-09-15 20:04:43 +0000 UTC]

If the summer changed to winter, we could wear more fur - your message, to me at least, is easy to read. Thanks for sharing!

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TheMysteriousK In reply to Furmistress [2010-09-27 20:01:51 +0000 UTC]

My pleasure!

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tilenti [2007-11-23 02:36:06 +0000 UTC]

nice costume! i thing the structure of the layout is too flat, 2 ladies standing inline & a sky background.
some perspective like one lady in front & another at the back will made the painting more interesting.

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TheMysteriousK In reply to tilenti [2007-11-23 21:57:52 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your critique and praise. I will certainly take it in for future painting, but it's not something that bothers me in the one - I like the effect of the low horizon, the sky is important to the meaning of the painting and I feel the message - whatever it is - of the painting wouldn't be as powerful if the women weren't close together. Perhaps there could be more powerful darker tones in the painting to give more contrast, and this would maybe address you critique too.

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Karbik [2007-11-18 18:03:25 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm...interesting painting. It's kinda amusing to see a person with such thich clothing standing next to a person with such thin chlothing. One of them is going through hell in their chlothing.

Crit, crit...*rubs fingers* Well, the whole thing suffers from a lack of contrast, many colours tend to blend into each other, making the borders of objects hard to see ( for example Winter's shoulder & sky plus Summer's chloting). Additionally...did you colour the two women on one layer? Because mybe it's just me, but it looks like you have done the smudgin of the fur coat after colouring Summer, thus leaving these freaky empty spots where

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Karbik In reply to Karbik [2007-11-18 18:11:39 +0000 UTC]

Crap...I'm trying to get used to my new table by using it for everything, but I accidentally pushed the wrong buttong with it.

Anyway, screw the explanation, a pic to show my theory: [link]
Not the strokes with smudge brush

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TheMysteriousK In reply to Karbik [2007-11-18 18:54:39 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your interesting comments. Seeing the trouble you took to get your point across I went back the original pictures to look up what had actually happened.
The dresses of the women were on different layers, but the effect could have happened during the final touches - sometimes I'm too impatient to go the multi-layer mainwork and correct on the one-layer display picture. However - think of it what you may - inspection showed that the freaky empty spots were put there on purpose by me to suggest fur sticking out in front of Summer's saree. I know the effect you're hinting at though, and that's exactly the reason why I prefer working on multiple layers.
- As to the lack of contrast, I'll think of that. The outlines of the saree could be more crisp, that's true, but the green material is supposed to be see-through. I'll think about this. Sofar I've never concerned myself much with setting off one thing against another, so I'm happy to hear about it from you - more food for thought. With fur, I tend to settle for some impressionism. The single most difficult thing of painting fur or furry material, is keeping the middle between the trap of wanting to draw every single hair (adding too much detail) and being too blurry. In the first case, you loose the 'feel' of it, and in the second case, it won't convince. However, I've noticed that different viewers differ on where the right middle lies.
- As to the clothing: as the painting is a kind of allegory, the clothes are meant to refer to the seasons. So, 'Summer', the older woman on the left is wearing a thin saree-like garment, while the garment of young and upcoming 'Winter' is refering both to fog and snow on one hand, and (by its furriness) to dressing up warmly against these nasties on the other hand. There's also a relation to their halves of the sky. So I don't really think I'll add contrast between Winter's dress and the sky, but I'll remember your comment for future paintings.
Calibrating my monitor is another thing on my list, it's a rather light Apple one, but I'm looking for a low cost solution.

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Adriaan-DeJongh [2007-11-14 19:50:24 +0000 UTC]

You did an immence great job on the fuzziness!! Where you might focus a bit more on next time are the leaves on the ground and the faces... I know the faces are the hardest part, but if you get those right and realistic (or at least more realistic that they are now... Though they already look really good!!) it would be almost a perfect image!

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TheMysteriousK In reply to Adriaan-DeJongh [2007-11-14 23:59:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the praize and the critique, Adriaan! I think I will concentrate on the faces, other people have mentioned they're a bit blurry too. At the time I was happy to handle the face a bit impressionistically, being amazed I got that far anyway.

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LemonSquash [2007-11-14 19:32:51 +0000 UTC]

It's great how you made the dress Winter's wearing so fluffy! That's very realistic, just like the way Summers hand is 'sinking' in the fur. Well done!
Summers nose looks kinda flat, and her arms are.. a bit... short, I think. And maybe you could add a few vingers to the right hand.
And the random hedgehog at the bottom's simply brilliant.

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LemonSquash In reply to LemonSquash [2007-11-15 13:48:34 +0000 UTC]

Good luck with that.

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TheMysteriousK In reply to LemonSquash [2007-11-14 23:56:15 +0000 UTC]

Thanks alot for the praise, LemonSqash, and I think you're right about the arm and also about the face. I'm thinking very hard about reworking those, this piece is dear to me and I don't want to leave it flawed.

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LemonSquash In reply to TheMysteriousK [2007-11-15 13:49:29 +0000 UTC]

Good luck with that.

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TheMysteriousK In reply to LemonSquash [2007-11-16 00:37:13 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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ZedderZulu [2007-09-13 23:24:25 +0000 UTC]

Ah I really like it. Both dresses. Fantastic colours!

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TheMysteriousK In reply to ZedderZulu [2007-09-14 06:21:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I've painted a few sarees in my time, but Winter's furry dress on the right is my all-time favourite.

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ZedderZulu In reply to TheMysteriousK [2007-09-14 22:13:23 +0000 UTC]

Cool!

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Mart-elle [2007-09-13 20:26:31 +0000 UTC]

the dress is amazing!

and colours are so gentle!!

Perfect

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Te256 In reply to Mart-elle [2007-09-17 07:13:13 +0000 UTC]

Si schon, macht mi molto ehfresichitig ! I mochte dei adresse deiner Peliccaio habeen...

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TheMysteriousK In reply to Mart-elle [2007-09-13 20:49:16 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! It would have been packed and sent in its way to Kiev if I had a spare around.

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