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eltf177 [2020-08-05 18:36:15 +0000 UTC]
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Speciesunkn0wn [2019-10-14 19:56:39 +0000 UTC]
You'll see that tent on the back quite often on older ships in photos when they're not undergoing combat. Pretty sure it's basically just a shade for the crew or extra berths for them.
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Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-18 06:47:27 +0000 UTC]
This is amazing, though I'm quite scared for the Masts......
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-18 15:21:13 +0000 UTC]
The Rurik, which I used as the basis of the design, had those masts. It's probably due to perspective but these are more or less the same length too
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-19 03:44:04 +0000 UTC]
Oh....hey, i have a question;
Does this model [in case of a probable refit] accept the CODAG/Azipod propulsion system?
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-20 15:04:33 +0000 UTC]
I don't know, I just try to make pretty designs. If the CODAG was introduced between 1905 and 1919 which is the service life i gave for this ship, then maybe
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-21 04:10:48 +0000 UTC]
Ah, yeah.. the hull does seem to accept the system but... yeah, 1905-1919
that's short....
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-21 04:21:36 +0000 UTC]
i put in the description that her delivery to the navy was heavily delayed and was obsolete by the time she was received. Most of my models i upload are, unless stated otherwise, for an NS roleplay group i was once part of. Because of metagaming technology progressed faster than it did in real life and i figured it would have been better to sell it for scrap instead of trying to maintain it along side more modern cruiser hulls
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-21 04:29:59 +0000 UTC]
NS?....umm sorry...please elaborate?
EDIT: she's good for combat, i can tell you.
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-21 05:54:53 +0000 UTC]
NS=NationStates. just kinda make a country then roleplay in the forums as that country. For the roleplay itself we made a bunch of different countries and roleplayed their rise and fall from the bronze age to the modern age. Our "Great War" more or less mirrors the two world wars.
Also we all gave ourselves gimmicks to curve metagaming. my country was obsessed with battleships, even though carriers were becoming more prominent, and the only ships i had other than BBs were some light cruisers and destroyers. This ship wasn't nearly as mobile as the light cruisers and destroyers nor as stupidly overgunned as my battleships (if you go to the very end of my gallery you'll find the very first ship i posted here was a super battleship with 15 16'' guns). Might sound early but by 1915 or so we already had battleships with higher top speed despite having bigger guns and more armor too.
Plus we had a sort of budget based on our country's economy and i already had a stupid number of ships
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-21 23:58:36 +0000 UTC]
That sounds interesting, though does it involve assistance of planes? [okay, yes, this is a stupid question]
Countries? you mean this like Warring Countries in WWI-WWII?
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-22 00:48:49 +0000 UTC]
Until halfway through the war my entire air force was essentially loaned out to me. Like I did have two or so carriers in service but their entire aircraft compliment were manufactured in an allied country.
As for countries I mean like we make up our own countries and roleplay with those. I was the Royal Kingdom of Elipida, which was like a mix of Belgium, England and France with a constitutional monarchy, the Völkian Empire was like imperial German mixed with some American, Empire of Francia was Imperial France with the Frankish Republics being a bunch of states that succeeded from them. On the other side with have Betta-Minn which was an Arabic dual monarchy and Inquibestan which were Arabic-Indian Communists and so on. A neat little collection of twenty-two countries who all really hate each other.
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-22 01:49:07 +0000 UTC]
Thaat's quite informative; and well written,
Oh, yeah, how about the Battle system? is it a Move-by-turn system?
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-22 02:13:55 +0000 UTC]
You discuss it in a separate discussion thread and decide there with the help of a moderator. The general goal was to make a story that was entertaining to both read and participate in rather than just whoever can throw more money into their military so generally no one had issues losing. I did quite enjoy playing with a highly obstructive Senate that wanted more battleships because in our earlier war the winner was whoever had more guns than the other, while my Admiralty tried to find ways to act beneath their notice, like disguising and classifying a carrier as a battleship.
I once staged a large battle with a huge number of my older battleships against enemy carriers with the intent to sacrifice every single one of them and to publicize it in order to gain both public and noble support for a coup and overthrow the Senate whom ordered the skirmish.
I wasn't the only one doing this. Around 1944 was when the Coalition begun their landings into the Country of Cruti (who were basically French-Italians), The Hosh Empire (Basically religious Nazi Germany, played by the same guy) withdrew their support early to allow Cruti to fall then bombed every city, military base and fertile soil in the country to ashes.
So yeah, just whoever can be more entertaining over a battle system
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-22 02:31:36 +0000 UTC]
ah, an' i thought it was an RP fight, anyhow....
[Deviation comment] hey, i noticed some color differences! are the perspective views the preliminary sketch?
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-22 02:37:21 +0000 UTC]
Nah it's just I couldn't make out certain details when the hull was black like the casemate guns so I used a base hull color.
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-22 02:45:02 +0000 UTC]
Ah... i really need to look at descriptions lol...
oh, yeah, about your Kantai; any ships still in service?
[sorry bud for pestering you with questions]
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-22 04:09:49 +0000 UTC]
I think I'm the only country in the RP that still employs the use of battleships into the 21st century (though only two and I don't even let them leave port outside of ceremonial reasons). I have a light cruiser I refitted into a guided nuclear cruiser in 1956 and a test-bed for Aegis in 1976 but I scrapped the ship in 1990. I think the longest serving ship was this one (you should def read the description I do the lore and specs there).
As for modern ships I have a couple of Aegis missile destroyers and a few carriers, haven't uploaded any of them here yet though, I put finished work on a .bat script and upload weekly (save for occasions where I make something fast and upload them all in quick succession) and i think there are a few other things between them and now.
Oh but don't worry, I love to respond to comments and messages and get into discussions on certain things
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-22 04:59:46 +0000 UTC]
That's a bunch of them, and you treat them lovingly with precise and visually pleasing designs,
Browsing by you folder's count- I'd say 10+ of them had [at least] participated in any war...
[soo...how much time do you think it takes to make a model {CG}? and to do refurbishing?]
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TheoComm In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-22 14:10:28 +0000 UTC]
Depends on what the model is. A tank I find is far easier to make and thus might take me 4-6 hours to build from the ground up whereas a battlecruiser that's bustling with guns may take 10-15 hours, though I can certainly make it go by far faster if I recycle older parts from previous models
As for baking the models (baking means render), since the tanks have so much more details that are packed more closely they can take up to several hours to render fully while my ships, since the camera sits kinda far from the ship so it can capture the entire thing, can finish up in several minutes to no more than an hour
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62guy In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-19 01:57:18 +0000 UTC]
The diameter of the masts' shafts appears to be smaller than those on the Rurik (especially the after mast). Also, many navies converted to tripod masts because the single pole masts proved problematical when the ship was moving at higher speeds over rough seas. (Excessive vibration and sway making the upper platforms unusable.)
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TheoComm In reply to 62guy [2016-11-19 03:11:58 +0000 UTC]
Perspective. I made them slightly thicker than the masts on a Rurik model that used to be on the sketchup warehouse.
Also I know tripods are better but I'm not trying to create the best ship possible. If I was always going for the best I wouldn't be making ships with excessive number of guns nor multi-turreted tanks
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62guy In reply to Nagisa-Shiouta [2016-11-18 13:31:39 +0000 UTC]
You are correct, the masts are far too light - to use that size tubing, they would need to be tripods.
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Nagisa-Shiouta In reply to 62guy [2016-11-19 03:48:17 +0000 UTC]
I used to observe that when my QE2 model capsized then i place (well, taped actually) a pencil on top of it, but that's not the case,
The crow's nest is too big to be carried (Unless it's made from aluminum) for masts like that to support....
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TheoComm In reply to 62guy [2016-11-18 15:16:04 +0000 UTC]
The Rurik, which I used as the basis of the design, had those masts. It's probably due to perspective but these are more or less the same length too
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TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-11-18 02:01:57 +0000 UTC]
An interesting concept. I do wonder how it might far against the Japanese armoured cruiser Ibuki. Might be quite the fight XD
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TheoComm In reply to TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-11-18 02:22:52 +0000 UTC]
From a quick glance I could shoot faster but lack the same range, though it's doubtful the Ibuki could hit me at it's maximum range. Both ships have armor that cannot resist the other's guns so it's really whoever lands a hit first.
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TheAbyssalSamurai In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-18 02:39:45 +0000 UTC]
Seems logical. Though if Ibuki connects first...let's just say that 12 inch shells will hurt alot.
Of course, none of that matters when the battlecruiser was invented and instead we have Lions facing against Seylitzs #BritBCsshouldntbeinlineofbattle XD
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TheoComm In reply to TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-11-18 02:47:40 +0000 UTC]
It won't sink me in one hit, but depending on where it hit me it could mission-kill me, which is, from my understanding, the norm of naval battles of this time period. Though similarly I can mission-kill the Ibuki depending on where i hit.
But battlecruisers, I don't think I've uploaded any of my battlecruisers yet. I'll be certain to put some on my weekly schedule
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TheAbyssalSamurai In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-18 02:56:26 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. If an armed merchant ship can sink a light cruiser, then your armoured cruiser could sink the Ibuki anytime
-shame on you my people. How could you let a merchant ship sink one of your cruisers like it did. AARRGGHHH-
I look forward to seeing your battlecruiser designs.
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TheoComm In reply to TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-11-18 15:20:47 +0000 UTC]
To be fair light cruisers have even less armor than this armored cruiser. Many ships have been lost to the hidden guns on Q-ships
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TheAbyssalSamurai In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-18 21:12:07 +0000 UTC]
Which ships? Aside from HMAS Sydney, I dont know of any other major ships to be sunk by Q ships or Qlike ships like Komoron
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TheoComm In reply to TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-11-18 23:44:03 +0000 UTC]
Submarines going in for commercial raiding mainly, can't name any off the top of my head though.
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TheAbyssalSamurai In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-19 00:17:18 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. If you loose to a gun fight with a submarine, you are either:
A) A helpless cargo ship (no blame on you, since they can't really shoot back
B) Have such terrible armour that the Courageous class looks incrediably well armoured
C) You have such bad aim that the Japanese are accurate by comparasion
D) The submarine has a bad ass captain XD
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TheoComm In reply to TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-11-19 00:29:20 +0000 UTC]
I don't know I can think of two instances when unarmed vessels either sunk or severely crippled a submarine by ramming it
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TheAbyssalSamurai In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-19 00:59:50 +0000 UTC]
I said gun fight. Of course a merchant ship can ram and thus sink a sub. As if Olympic needed to prove it was more badass it was. But in terms of gun fight, most merchant ships were without guns and thus they would loose in a gunfight to a U boat, who at least had a gun
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Sensthepunmistress [2016-11-18 01:20:18 +0000 UTC]
The tents were used to keep rain water off the life boats. unlike in WW2, the boats were made of wood. in WW2 almost all life boats looked like mini-subs and some were made of metal in the look of a old wood one.
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TheoComm In reply to Sensthepunmistress [2016-11-18 01:25:04 +0000 UTC]
Oh but the Mikasa has a tent but all it covers are the guns of the aft guns.
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Sensthepunmistress In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-18 01:26:46 +0000 UTC]
That was done for a different reason. That is done for visitors to have shade to stand in.
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Sensthepunmistress In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-18 01:31:59 +0000 UTC]
The year your ship was made, it would have it for wooden life boats. they store them under it to keep them dry and was made of cloth, the tend used on the ship is not a tent but is metal. It is not intended to be taken down and put back up before bad weather.
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TheoComm In reply to Sensthepunmistress [2016-11-18 01:38:25 +0000 UTC]
I see. So would the crane access these boats? Or is there another way to deploy them?
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Sensthepunmistress In reply to TheoComm [2016-11-18 01:42:12 +0000 UTC]
the tent was erected on spot at sea by hand but the crane helps pulling the cloth over properly. If the ship was damaged while boats were under the tent, they can slide them off the back of the ship using the tent ropes and moor them on as they load themselves on the boats. Then cut the rope. This practice is no longer done.
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62guy In reply to Sensthepunmistress [2016-11-18 13:33:43 +0000 UTC]
The tents were NOT for the boats (they had canvas covers), they were for shade, which is why the Japanese used them but the Germans didn't (except when in Southern waters).
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