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ThePoeticPaladin — Twilight meets Dunning-Kruger
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Published: 2011-08-09 04:21:41 +0000 UTC; Views: 1144; Favourites: 18; Downloads: 24
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Discussing the implications of psychological concepts I don't fully understand! Woo!So yeah, I guess this is the fic equivalent of gift art? Or something.
For/inspired by ~VanillaBeanBurst . She's a better artist than I am, check her out.
As always, the better formatted version is on Google Docs here: [link]
Twilight discusses the Dunning-Kruger effect and its implications for her psyche.
After you read the story, click this link: [link]
The link explains why I wrote the story. Also, as for the ending: Fuck you, puns.
I only listened to one song during this story's creation: "[link] "
EDIT: I know the title sounds weird. The one I would have used (had I been given the choice) would be "Twilight discusses the implications of the Dunning-Kruger effect". But that's too long. So... This.
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Had to google that to figure out what it was.
I don't really get it.
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That was a typo. I meant to say Adam Jensen. Sorry for the confusion.
Adam Jensen: I never asked for this.
Me neither buddy. Me neither.
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Still don't really get it.
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That's pretty sad actually.
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Oh no see, I meant sad overall. It's actually quite funny for me.
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...I still don't get it. What's it a reference to?
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I thought you googled it.
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I did. It was just some guy saying "he didn't ask for this".
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Wrong. It was Adam Jensen saying "I never asked for this."
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Still. I don't know who he is or what he didn't ask for.
Or what it has to do with this piece.
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Did you think about it...at all? Cause by this point you really should have gotten my insult. Ah well. Still funny ^-^
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No. It's funny, that's all.
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last part made me lol, and the first part . . .confound theses ponies they drive me to read psychology literature!
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I wouldn't call Dunning-Kruger "literature". It's really just an observation that came about from a case study. If you want'd it as "literature", you'd probably find it in a book on cognitive bias.
I honestly have never read any complete texts on psychology (or sociology, or philosophy, for that matter). I just enjoy reading case studies here and there. I'm considering minoring in psych, out of interest. Not sure yet though.
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well if you want to be a writer it would be helpful I think, to have a broader perspective on the human psyche, and studying psychology, sociology or philosophy, for that matter would certainly help, but if I had to choose any one of the three I'd choose philosophy
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Only intelligent people question their intelligence, because doing so displays an act of critical thinking.
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That only shows one facet of critical thinking skills. It is entirely possible for someone to have the power (or motivation) to question their own intelligence, even if they are otherwise morons.
Hell, one of the most determining facets of Down's Syndrome is the ability to recognize that you're disabled. So to an extent, even a person with Down's is capable of questioning his/her intelligence. They most certainly aren't (at least, not by any conventional definition), but they are capable of the critical thinking skills necessary to analyze their own intelligence.
Besides, if the loop were that easy to get out of, this story would suck.
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I have never met a moron who was aware that they were a moron, because morons are incapable of critical thinking. Down's Syndrome sufferers don't question their intelligence in the sense that they are fully aware they are retards and that there is nothing they can do about it. They never presume for a second they are smart, as morons do.
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Maybe you're talking to all the wrong morons then.
One of my good friends was fully aware that she was a walking blond stereotype. She over-estimated the level of her own ignorance, true. But she was certainly right: She's wildly gullible, and pretty damn uneducated. When I was around her, I relatively frequently would have to repeat myself by phrasing something differently, because she didn't understand my level of diction.
I know a couple other people that are in the same group of "knowing they aren't smart". As well as at least one person that brings this entire study into more question (for me, at least). A friend of mine got a 16 on the ACT (he later retook it and got a 19, but that means his "better" try was on par with the national average), and most of his friends made fun of it (myself included). The man was a walking stereotype, 6'8" and about 300lbs of muscle, so people (himself included) naturally assumed he was stupid. Yet despite getting an [exactly] average ACT score and being fully aware that he was stupid, he'd text me at night to ask for my interpretation of various chapters in the WoT series, and was wholly responsible for me not failing physics and having to retake my senior year.
I don't know exactly what my point is here, but I guess it can be best summarized by: "Purely questioning your own intelligence doesn't necessarily mean that you are intelligent, but refusing to question your own intelligence is certainly a mark of a lack of intelligence."
Then again, I'm a passive little bitch that refuses to speak in absolutes. So you might be right, and it's just that.
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Well, i am just making generalizations here, but I think that if there is a possibility that purely questioning your intelligence doesn't necessarily mean you are intelligent, which I will not rule out, then the sign of intelligence at that point would be looking at your own mental capabilities from a neutral, unbiased perspective in respect for others in comparison, and not allowing your ego to make you overestimate your thinking ability, allowing you to come to a statistically accurate conclusion.
But then that leads to the question of whether humility is a characteristic of rationality from a purely judgemental perspective, or a purely emotional factor which cannot be accurately measured from a non-biased point of view.
I will agree with the notion that not questioning your intelligence at all is indeed a sign of a lack of mental capability.
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>otherwise morons
I woke up literally less than ten minutes ago. Cut me some slack.
"even if s/he is otherwise a moron".
Also, mentally fix any "they" errors I made, because I know I made one or two.
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Why are you not featuring this in any of the MLP fangroups? Or are they still waiting for approval?
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Okay, so I started submitting them to a few groups...
Within minutes of being accepted to one, I suddenly have like six more favs. That's about what I had total across all submissions before that.
Apparently, I should bother submitting them in the future. Thanks for spurring me onto that.
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Oh well. You've done it. H'okay. Yeah, the groups help your favs out. And sometimes ye comments too.
You're welcome.
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I've only gotten around to submitting to two groups, actually. I don't know the right groups for this sort of thing.
Also, on an unrelated note: I was going to go out and buy something to drink, but a kitten fell asleep on me. Goddammit.
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Kittens are evil and selfish like that. "No drink for you: cuddle me." Also, irresistibly cute. 
On a related note, you were sure to submit to #MLP-Pony-Tales right? I think this either qualifies as "random" or "comedy"... probably a dash of both...
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I don't like cats. But I can appreciate kittens. My mom works for an animal rescue, so I get a bit spoiled. I get to see the kittens, and then people adopt the cute little kittens before they grow up, and I'm sad for about two seconds before there are new kittens for me to look over.
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zomg neeeew kittens, like all the time! 8D
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I... Don't bother submitting them. >.>
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Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
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There are so many. I don't know what groups my stuff belongs in.
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No wonder Twi is so smart. She eats BRAIIIIIIIIIIIIINS C:
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Oh my god. I think you're awesome. Was all kinds a lols up in this house.
Also, when I got to your soundtrack, I was just like 
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As I got to that part I said: "
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I chose the thumbnail for this piece with care.
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um cool i guess i mean its something to do with mlp or something. it makes sense perfectly i think
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The only real tie to MLP is that the character writing the "letter" is an MLP character. All you need to know if you aren't a fan is that she writes a letter to "Princess Celestia" at the end of each episode.
If you read it as just a nerd writing her thoughts down for her mentor overseas, it reads exactly the same. The Dunning-Kruger effect is a real life thing.
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