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Haruno93 [2007-09-08 01:19:08 +0000 UTC]
This is an excellent piece, but I would add a border to the netted part of her top
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TheRaineDrop In reply to Haruno93 [2007-09-15 00:54:16 +0000 UTC]
yes, i see what you are saying, but the look of what i was going for was that her netted top was torn/had unfinished edges. i guess i didn't make that clear enough. *head-desk*
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Haruno93 In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-09-18 01:01:50 +0000 UTC]
Oh... I see why you did that now! The pic is very amazing
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mustangeyes [2007-08-14 21:54:52 +0000 UTC]
Wow, Haven't seen this character in a while! She looks really good.
I love the outfit and hair. I'm sure when colored it will have a lot of flair.
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TheRaineDrop In reply to mustangeyes [2007-08-25 02:24:47 +0000 UTC]
i can hope for that at least. >_>;
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gazal-cherry [2007-08-10 05:52:20 +0000 UTC]
hey ther...
according to the description, its nicely made -but I can pin point a few things -
like her neck...it seems not too long. I hae a long neck and I know how long it seems in photographs. so u may think about extending her neck a bit. secondly her left hand's fingers -two of them are toopointed -just soften them a bit. Other wise its perfect -waiting for it's coloured one.
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TheRaineDrop In reply to gazal-cherry [2007-08-10 05:56:50 +0000 UTC]
really? her neck? that didn't bother me, looking at it, but i will take a look to see what you mean. her head IS supposed to be tilted down though, so maybe i'm just not seeing it the same as you.
and yeah, fingers. bah. this picture is only 6 inchs tall on paper, so the smaller details kinda got muddled up.
coloured might be a while, i have to draw Christian first, and that is going badly. >_<;;
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NoWhereKid107 [2007-08-10 01:39:44 +0000 UTC]
Well the only thing I could pick out, was already mentioned, which was the hips.
But other then that, you did really well on this. It's very detailed, I love that in drawings/art. Raine is so pretty, one of my favorite characters in your book. :3
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NoWhereKid107 In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-10 04:56:39 +0000 UTC]
Aw, but have some curves isn't that bad! xDD jkjk
My favorite would have to be either Marianus/Marry or Kevin. :}
BUT if I had to pick out of those two it'd be Kevin.
Oh, even though you are the author of the book, do you have a favorite character? xD
Oh, and I have another question if you don't mind, but would you care if I colored some of your lineart, because I have lots of free time and nothing to do. ._.;
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NoWhereKid107 In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-10 05:05:58 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes I know! And I respect your views! :3
Cause I agree, girl don't need to have curves to be attractive. Well that's what I think. :]
Gawd, I love the fact that Marry is crazy, and, I have ALOT to catch up on. I read the first ch. to LMHTD, because I already finished LMHTB, and I just need to read the other chapters now. ._.;
xDD
Oh jeebus christmas! xD Thanks!!
Coloring your line arts will help me practice more on coloring, so thank you!
;DDD
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NoWhereKid107 In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-10 05:25:47 +0000 UTC]
Oh really? A new beginning? Did this just one day pop into your head to change it? xD
Or have you put alot of thought into changing it? oo;
Annnnd I don't think revealing too much is a bad thing! 'Cause I love knowing what's going on, it's hard fer me to keep up with long stories and such! xD
Ne ways! I'd figure the sex scenes and cursing would make your ratings go up, 'cause of how sex obsessed teens are these days. -_-;
Alright! I'm going to color her right now! xD
before I have to sleep. >_e;
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TheRaineDrop In reply to NoWhereKid107 [2007-08-10 05:48:46 +0000 UTC]
No, see, what happened was that this was my first story EVER, so I kinda learned all I have by just sitting and writing, you know? And I developed and got to know my characters through that same process.
It was good for my writing, bad for my story, because a lot of scenes are now superfluous and overly drawn out. My beginning was just my directionless introduction into my vast world I had in my head. Now that I know my characters, and now that I know the plot I have to work with, I can go back and give it a proper beginning, one I like better.
The editing is SLOW, however, because some scenes I just donβt want to part with, so the story doesnβt seem to be changing as much as I would like it to, but it is kinda like peeling an onion, I have to do it one layer at a time. I started making some changes, and I will go back, wave after wave, layer after layer, changing a bit more each time.
My problem with βrevealing too muchβ is really two different degrees. The first is me telling too much about Christian too quickly. He has no air of mystery about him, nothing to long for. He is a vampire, he is supposed to be illusive and vague, but I kinda lay him all out there in the early chapters, so I am cutting a lot of that out (like revealing he is half-fey in chapter 03) I wait to reveal said things and it leaves the readers wondering, wanting more.
The other part is me just taking paragraphs and time to go into detail about things, explaining it to the readers, when I shouldnβt. Things should either be revealed and explained through the story, or in dialog, not just thrown out there for the benefit of the reader, you know what Iβm saying?
Long-story-short, yes, I have put a LOT of thought into this.
No, I mean, not ratings as in βopularityβ but βratingβ as in PG or R rating. LMHtB was originally rated M for Mature because of the sex, drug, violence, and language, but I am dropping my rating to something like PG13, cutting the sex scenes and censoring a lot of the foul language, so it will be more appropriate for my younger readers because I plan to market this story to the βteen-sceneβ and to do so I have to qualify via my content.
Iβm actually, kinda, considering being published. Thatβs why I have done all these changes and whatβs up with the rewrite.
but yes, teens are sex-obsessed. my average reader's age is actually 14. *le sigh*
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NoWhereKid107 In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-10 20:45:56 +0000 UTC]
Oh, alright! I understand what you're saying.
So do you think you'll stick with the idea of Christian being a student at Raine's school? Because I think that would be a killer beginning! It would certainly be interesting. :}
And do you not have people helping you edit? Or is it more of something that you'll have to do yourself? Because of the changes and everything.
I see what you're saying.
'Cause now that I think about it, there wasn't much mystery, I say that not to be mean. o_o; So please don't take it like that, because I really, really like your book. Like..everyday after school it was what I looked forward to when getting home! XD
Oh okay! I get it now, duh to me. e_e;
Well what I would do, is publish 2 books! xD
One censored and the other not! xDD
Okay, maybe not..that'd be alot of money and work. -_-;
And..and if you get it published, I'd be the first to buy it, and would want it autographed by you. That would just..be sooo cool. *__*
OH! Annnd another question, sorry. BUT do you know what all is going to happen in LMHtD? Like, any of it?
:}
ANNND omgosh, I finished coloring the line art of Raine. xD
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TheRaineDrop In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-10 05:49:28 +0000 UTC]
"popularity"...not sure why that got messed up and a smily appeared there. fucking website.
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ElyLightbringer [2007-08-09 22:30:24 +0000 UTC]
Actually, it's all pretty good!
Great job!
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wynnter89 [2007-08-09 22:02:01 +0000 UTC]
Wow, love the pants ! Your getting really good !
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Candy2021 [2007-08-09 21:39:36 +0000 UTC]
her face looks dead on!!! however if yer looking for advice on an anatomical level her hips look way too narrow, like shes built like a boy. in boys their shoulders are wider then their hips but for girls their hips are the same width or wider then their shoulders. I dunno if this will help you but it helps me, to draw average boys i think of an upside down triangle for their torso and for average girls I think of an hour glass. little tid bit tips i pick up.
her feet look fine to me but I agree the legs look a tad too long. her hands look perfect tho and so does her hair and outfit.
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TheRaineDrop In reply to Candy2021 [2007-08-10 04:33:55 +0000 UTC]
thank you! i always screw up faces, so it's good to know i got that right-ish on this piece.
and, well 1) i have to combat my HATRED for big-fat-hips on women. i draw women with narrow hips and skinny thighs, it's just what i do, it's what i like...but also, i added a description of Raine from my story above, and "narrow hips" is one of them. And 2) I know women are "supposed" to be all fat and crap, and men are narrow with wider shoulders, but i just choose to style mine different. fuck girls and the "hour-glass" thing. comics make women so disproportioned (hour-glass to the XXXXXtream) that i may be compensating, i'm not sure. she still has big boobs...yippie...
i already shortened the legs, believe that? i draw long legs, so i had to crop them down CONSIDERABLY once scanned so that it better represented Raine as a character with her legs that are not "short" but not long either. if i make them shorter i don't think i will like how the picture looks. not sure.
yay for hands! and drawing clothing is what makes my world go 'round.
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Candy2021 In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-10 11:40:58 +0000 UTC]
well just because their wider doesnt make them fatter, wideness is based on how wide hipbones are. and yes I totally agree comics make women disproportioned, if they stood like this did in the comics they wouldn't have a working spine. but I just got a whole shit load of art books and tutorials from comic con and narrow hips o women just make them look like boys with breasts jutting out of their ribcage. but I do remember you telling me raine was part chinese and Asian women do have shorter limbs and rounder features unlike their white counter parts ( that advice I got from this girl whose a professional manga artist [link] )
and really? I do that too sometimes, but as a cartoony cartoonist I can get away with that ( not often tho XD I get busted all the time for anatomy errors)
but over all? looks good, just nit picking becuase thats what aids improvment ^^
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Candy2021 In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-11 16:09:51 +0000 UTC]
a matter of opinion I suppose, men who wanna be daddys find wind hip bones very sexy ( the stuff you find cursing the forums) but yea,that girl is amazing! she had a booth at comic con- but I was so busy there I didn't get a chance to go and see her :sad: and yea, we work in different styles, but oh man trust me I've gotten the " why is this and this off?" because an image should look good if it's flipped (reverse) horizontally and mine--never do so that means something somewhere is off....and I dunno why. hopefully my new thirst for knowledge will help me with that.
however yea, you will get busted for it more often then I do, but since I know you wanna be stylized yet at the same time anatomically correct may i suggest this tutorial? [link] a cartoonist can not create a style until they are fully aware of how their drawing ACTUALLY looks this helped me TONS and I hope you'll find it as useful as I did.
don't be scared of the critics either XD when I ask for critiques I get ripped a new one- but it's all for the purpose of growth so ya just gotta take it all in.
but I think this would make a fantastic web banner! why not poke yer buddy who colored this [link] I'm sure you guys could work out a trade or something spiffy.
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xfoshizzlexx [2007-08-09 20:29:36 +0000 UTC]
This is really good, I like the hair and the pose.
However, the feet do look a bit too straight...It seems like it might be uncomfortable to be standing like that.
Maybe you could turn one a little...?
I don't know, I'm really bad at critiques =\
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TheRaineDrop In reply to xfoshizzlexx [2007-08-10 04:25:49 +0000 UTC]
well, actually, the feet are supposed to be turned in MORE, see, she just spun around, and so her feet ended up pointing together. (i posed in front of my mirror a lot for this piece)
I'll just admit to drawing the feet very poorly and leave it at that.
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AcquaSanta [2007-08-09 20:28:50 +0000 UTC]
Well, as far as critique goes, the guitar seems a little lacking in effort and detail in comparison with the rest of the piece. Also, the spikes around the collar could use some work. Other than that good job on this piece!
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AcquaSanta In reply to AcquaSanta [2007-08-09 20:30:56 +0000 UTC]
And by that I mean the angles, and some of the lines on it could use some work to make it look a little more up to par with the rest of the picture (the guitar, that is). And the spikes on the collar just aren't uniform.
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TheRaineDrop In reply to AcquaSanta [2007-08-10 04:24:31 +0000 UTC]
yeah, the guitar DOES look plain, but i didn't know what else to do to it, you know? it is the backside of it, so there are no knobs, strings, face-plate...i mean, nothing. :/ that and since there is no shading in the picture, i couldn't do much to it since all that will take place when it is coloured and there would be no need for any additional lines, they would only have to be erased.
and i agree with you on the spikes, they look like a mess when views so large, but drawing it on paper, this picture is actually quite small (she is about 6 inches tall or less) so the fact that my pen managed to make the spikes look THAT good surprised me. when this pic coloured i can clean and fix the spikes up more.
thank you for the critique though. it was useful.
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TheRaineDrop In reply to AcquaSanta [2007-08-10 04:48:39 +0000 UTC]
her guitar, in the book, is just purple. she does not have the money for anything fancy. the fact that it is purple is enough for her. XD
the angles were a bitch, honestly. i suck with perspective to start with, but they throw in something that is supposed to be straight and stiff and i'm just screwed. >_<
I get the strap thing though, and i'm not sure if i can fix that on my computer or not, but i can try.
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AcquaSanta In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-10 05:09:04 +0000 UTC]
That's fine, this is all for future reference. It's a learning experience, all of life is. Hehe, an exercise I can suggest for you with angles is taking a single, simple characters, sketching them out in a head on view, and then doing the same thing from below, beside, above, and askew from any angle. Then add in more angles over time. Do one a day, and then do it with another character once you have done 10 angles. It will help alot. That was one my art teacher had me do a few years ago.
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TheRaineDrop In reply to AcquaSanta [2007-08-10 05:14:23 +0000 UTC]
*twitches* i can't even draw from the basic angles, i wouldn't know where to BEGIN from the others. i have "How to Draw Manga" books and i STILL can't manage expression or posture, or angles. >_<
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AcquaSanta In reply to TheRaineDrop [2007-08-10 13:45:03 +0000 UTC]
hehe, well, first just start out with the front and side views, then the back and over head and below views. if you do each side that's seven angles right there and then if you do one looking from a 45 degree angle from the front, and one again at 45 degrees from the back, that's nine, now all you need is one more ^^
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StephanieBombs [2007-08-09 20:27:58 +0000 UTC]
looks good to me! I dig the guitar :]
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TheRaineDrop In reply to StephanieBombs [2007-08-10 04:20:48 +0000 UTC]
thank you. i'm glad it is mostly hidden by her body because i SUCK at drawing guitars. X(
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TheRaineDrop In reply to LaBelleElle [2007-08-10 04:20:23 +0000 UTC]
thank you very much. the guitar seems rather plain because, well, it is the backside of it.
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avellino [2007-08-09 20:26:47 +0000 UTC]
Lovely job, I love the hair!
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