HOME | DD
theunspokenprophet β Crimson Face drafts
#xenoblade #fancreation
Published: 2015-10-14 04:54:11 +0000 UTC; Views: 784; Favourites: 22; Downloads: 0
Redirect to original
Description
Ah yeah... beginning work on the long, grueling project that will eventually become Crimson Face. someday.these are the first few shapes i'm drawing up for its head... the top left is the first one, which is like uber rough starting ground. I always start somewhere! and it's usually not pretty.
And then it morphed into the one on top right. I drew a few versions in my agenda. I kinda liked it buuuut i decided it looked too reptilian. So, scrapped! I was thinking of Jade Face a lot while drawing that one... and then, I cut off the jaw. I couldn't figure out how to make a more sleek, non-awkward jaw. so it went to the bottom two. I like the no mouth cuz it kind of feels like he's being muzzled and not allowed to speak..
I can't decide what kind of ear/horn thing I want it to have. So there's two versions here. and many more in my agenda, which is like the birthing place for all sketches... Much work has yet to be done, however, on basically everything. In fact, the only thing i've kept constant this whole time is the eye shape. AND I STILL CAN'T THINK OF THE RIGHT HORN STYLE!!!
and the last head has a few splotches of color just to get a feel of how its gonna look.
garrrr.. this is hard. I'm trying to keep it similar to the existing Faces while being unique and drawing elements from the mechon Shulk i already made... DRAWING HIM WAS SO MUCH EASIER!! PEOPLE ARE SIMPLE. FACES ARE STUPID
OK. SO FAR!! TELL ME ANYTHING YOU LIKE, HATE, ANYTHING THAT LOOKS WEIRD OR AWKWARD. Of course, everything here is still as unpolished as a Nopon's manners. I'm gonna need a lot o work on this
Related content
Comments: 32
The one on the lower left is, at least in my eyes, the best designed out of them all. Can't really put my finger on why though.
π: 0 β©: 0
I think the one in the upper-right corner (AKA: The one with the mouth-like feature) is the best. Looks pretty dragon-like.
π: 0 β©: 1
Ah, and therein lies the dilemma: I do not want it to be dragonlike.
π: 0 β©: 1
monado, show me the way! laughs obnoxiously because i'm too lazy to sign out of this account
Dang dude, you've got a really good start on this thing! A while back I tried to design a face mechon(I was actually gonna go with a blue coloration so that's sorta funny) but ho-ho-holy shit let me tell you that did not start out NEAR as well. I like the whole "muzzled" idea as well, that's very clever.
As for an opinion on the horn-ear things, I do like the design of the bottom left one, but the length seems a little too long. If the shoulders/arms ended up being taller or something was placed on his back(like Metal) then maybe it'd make more sense...? Ack, I dunno what I'm talking about, don't listen to me. ;w;
Either way, I'm excited to see how this turns out in the end! Good luck on your designing endeavors!
Oh, and slightly unrelated, but seeing this has given me a little motivation to continue work on my face mechon too, so thanks for that even if you didn't mean for it to happen! :]
π: 0 β©: 1
Thank you so much mr. Shulk!
I'm still messing with the horn thingies, but rather than waste all my time there I'm gonna start drawing up pieces of the body and then maybe revise the horns to match later. And since I have recently been enlightened to the secret of the Faces (they are based off bugs), I now have the real-life reference of dragonflies to work with! Hopefully that'll help. I intend adding some winglike pieces like Nemesis has. (and then squashing those gosh darn horns and molding them anew!!!)
and I'm glad to hear that I (unintentionally) inspired someone! 8D
It'd be cool to see someone else's take on a Shulk face!
π: 0 β©: 1
monado, show me the way! Hoh man, I wish you serious luck with the body; especially the weird hip frame that goes around that ball thingy-- dear god, that thing is pure hell when you're trying to design one. I have figured out some things while looking at them though, like how some joints work, so if you need some tips I'd be more than willing to help out!
Oh, I was looking at the comments on this and saw that too! That's actually super useful knowledge since I never noticed it before besides with Jade. It makes a lot of sense looking at them now, besides Yaldabaoth(and I guess Nemesis, but she's kinda makes me think mayfly or something) of course. Egil, if you're gonna go with bugs, at least stick with the theme bro!
For my mechon(which I would like to point out is for an OC rather than an existing character, still have no idea what to do with it though whoops) I started with a sort of wasp theme, but that's slowly fading from the actual design. I did do some weird shoulder thing that sorta almost looks like wings, but there's no real wasp look to it. I'll try to figure out how to add a stinger-looking thing on the hip frame, but so far all of that has failed miserably. Rest in pepperonis, me.
Also one last thing, on the horns-- I actually really liked the design for the one I pointed out in the last comment so I sorta kinda did something similar? Slightly different, but not by much... I figured I'd tell you in case you weren't okay with that because I'll totally change it if you mind ;v;
gosh i'm so sorry for these long comments but i just have so many things i want to say all at once aaaaaaaaaaah
π: 0 β©: 1
Yes, I have looked extensively into their ball butts and hips. am I gonna have fun with that... :')
Maybe Egil didn't want his own Yaldabaoth to be a bug cuz he wanted "superiority" over the other Faces. So he made them into bugs. I mean, Egil does refer to stuff he wants to kill as bugs a lot.... "Fall to your death! Worthless insects!!" Do Faces seem disposable to him?
and for the stinger thing on your OC mechon (not a Shulk, my bad!), you could try one of the long ice cream cone-shaped things the Faces seem to fly around with. You can see it clearly on the back of Metal Face.. I guess you could make that look waspish?
On the horns, meh. Β―\_(γ)_/Β― I won't be bothered if you adapt them to your own Face.
Don't worry about rambling m80!! i like listening to what peeps have to say c:
π: 0 β©: 1
monado, show me the way! I only just figured mine out, and I hadn't thought about the jet cone thing at all until you suggested it-- so thanks! (And it's alright, I probably should've specified at the start.)
Mm, yeah, that makes sense. Still, if I were to make a bunch of robots with human prisoner pilots inside and had to make a theme for them, I'd start with mine and then stick to it.
Okay, I'll probably end up changing them a bit to seem more like antennae, but I like the way they look at the moment.
Man, making face mechon is really hard and kinda stressful, but it's fun too. Such mixed feelings ;w;
π: 0 β©: 1
Ah, I feel ya bro. It's fun making their parts but then nothing looks right!!! and then i tear my eyes out in despair. an excellent pastime Β
π: 0 β©: 0
I actually like the top left one (maybe without the jaw?), but if you incorporated some elements from the bottom ones and maybe added a 'uni-horn"... XD sorry, monster/mech designs are fun. If you ever want some suggestions or to work together on an idea for this, I'd love to help!
π: 0 β©: 1
Unicorn mechon!!
jk. I don't want to add a unicorn horn, since i want the front of the head to be smooth. i might add spikes later, though. we'll see.
I've pretty much abandoned top left head. It's too snakelike, and i don't think i could take away the snakiness while keeping it looking like that design.
π: 0 β©: 1
hmmm,true enough. I'mma think a bit on designs myself... oh!if you wanted a sleek look but also wanted more horns, you could try mimicking that one high entia headgear thing by having some low 'horns' that sweep back around the base of the'skull' like half-halos or summat
π: 0 β©: 1
Oooh, yes. Eryth series equips are some of my favs *u*
I'm iffy about using Bionis-sourced styles on a Mechon, though. just cuz it wouldn't make much sense... If it looked more Mechonis-y, mayyybe something like that could be possible??
Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
π: 0 β©: 1
ah, sorry, my idea isn't translating well... lemme try something...?
Β Β Β \ Β Β Β Β /
Β Β Β / Β Β Β Β \
Β Β / Β Β Β Β Β \
Β Β \ _____/
Sorry, guess the muro feature went kaput... but basically, horns in that basic shape (connected together) sweeping back like a collar? Augh, I should just draw it legit... XD
Β Β
π: 0 β©: 1
You probably should... I'm not reallyΒ sure what you mean
π: 0 β©: 1
I think what I was trying to say was... something about the horns curving behind and slightly around the back of the head, giving a partial halo imagery... I've done some really quick sketches, but they'll probably muddle up the issue even more wah.
sta.sh/02bvt7hmnly3
π: 0 β©: 1
no, that helps, actually! thanks for the input. It's given me a few new ideas on how to make things work. although, I'm kind of easing back on the horns right now. i don't wanna get too bogged down on one thing when there's still a whole freakin body to make!!! :'D
π: 0 β©: 1
...true dat. Very true. References of mechon will be your best friend!!
π: 0 β©: 1
or my worst enemy...... *glares unhappily, for the billionth time, at xenoblade designers*
π: 0 β©: 1
....very, VERY true...
π: 0 β©: 0
Wow!! 8O
Look at this Mechon design! I have to say, I ADORE how you made this Mechon design just about as regal as Face Nemesis', but with just enough of a masculine edge to distinguish the two! I'd love to see you take this idea that you have going right now and transform it into something greater! But so far, nice work! I can definitely see Shulk piloting this thing! ^w^
One more thing- from what I can tell, each of the Faced Mechon have some sort of insect-like motif (Metal- mantis, Nemesis- water nymph, Jade- some sort of cricket, Bronze/Xord- beetle), so maybe if you look up some insects, it could help you with not only the horn thing you were having trouble with, but also as the overall feeling of your design. Hope this helps! 8Dc
π: 0 β©: 1
ah! Thank you so much!
and now that you mention it, I never realized that about the Faces. Jade Face always struck me as looking sort of insect-ish, but I could never place it. Thanks for mentioning that. I learned something new today.
now I have to think of a bug for Shulk. I'm leaning towards dragonfly, since Fiora's a water nymph and it matches (although i'm not sure if you meant another bug nymph), and dragonflies are one of the least hideous non-butterfly bugs I can think of. My sister also said that this design looks like a power ranger mixed with a lizard, and lizards = reptiles = dragons so it works I guess??? Unless you have any bug suggestions?
What would Yaldabaoth be, then? He could be a real dragon!!! WOW!! plus the tail :/
π: 0 β©: 1
Yup, I was thinking "Water Nymph!"
And yeah, maybe you can incorporate some draconian qualities along with that dragonfly idea! If all else fails, mix the two together to make a potentially awesome final product! That, and a dragonfly was sitting right next to Shulk in the opening of Xenoblade if I remember correctly, soooo, hey! It fits like a glove, I'd say! 8D
As for Egil's Mechon, Yaldabaoth... You may be right- he looks more like a great dragon, and I don't think he has any insect traits (maybe you COULD look at him as a worm with arms and legs, but I don't think that helps much)... None that I know of, anyway. According to Agnosticism (which this game's narrative and world borrows a hefty amount from), the real Yaldabaoth was labeled as a "false God," which is probably why Egil designed it so it looked more like a gracious creature rather than a lowly insect. That's just my theory, though. ^ ^;;
π: 0 β©: 2
Whaaat I wasn't even thinking about the dragonfly in the opening...! You're right. IT CANNOT BE DENIED, SHULK MUST BECOME A DRAGONFLY
And I just searched up Yaldabaoth in the Gnostic context, and apparently that Yaldabaoth is a serpent with a lion's head.Β After seeing that, Egil's snakey tailed Mechon is a lot more justified in having a long sock of metal on its butt that literally serves no purpose other than to wave around and look menacing. I always did question that tail. :I
Your false god theory is really neat, too! I mean, Egil does say that "this is the strongest Mechon ever built."
Maybe Egil himself is the lion head?
π: 0 β©: 0
I can actually help a little bit with Yaldaboath's design - in Gnosticism, the Demiurge/Yaldaboath is depicted as a lion-headed snake, sometimes with a face burning like the sun. A LOT of Yaldaboath's design matches up with this depiction (the halo-like circular thing behind its head, the serpentine tail, etc). The more you know
π: 0 β©: 0
Wow, that looks sick as! If I may be so bold, the bottom-left ear thingies look better to me, but the blood and head/neck designs of the bottom-right looks better.
The idea of him being muzzled is really neat, and in-character/universe/whatever. What would it's weapons be? Laser blades, a la the Monado? Or you not thought that far ahead yet?
Just out of curiosity, design wise, what's your favourite face unit?
π: 0 β©: 1
Ah yeah, it's still all uncertain. which is why i left it uncolored. :>
I think the muzzle ting comes from how Face Nemesis looks like it has a blind over its eyes. Jade Face has a sort of mask, and Xord's entire body is a cage. I've kinda grown to think of mechonized Homs as being almost like prisoners, in a sense... hence, the muzzle, gag, whatev.
And my favorite face is Jade Face!
π: 0 β©: 1
"I have been granted this body of steel so that Egil's will may be done! This body feels great! Its movement is so precise! We are unstoppable, for we are one! Perfect, in body and mind!"
Heh, Jade Face is best face. You can definitively see the influence in this design (although you already kinda said as much....)
And with the whole "Homs as prisoners" thing, even Metal Face looked like it had its mouth sewn shut at first, and Yaldoboath... doesn't count becuz Machina....
π: 0 β©: 1
"delelelelele woooooooooop "
-Jade Face, Xenoblade YTP
Ah, I just wish Gadolt/Jade Face had more screen time. He appears for such a short portion of the story and then they kill him off!! what meanies! They really want us to ship Reyn with Sharla, don't they. :/Β Β (well, to that, i say "JADE FACE OP!! pls nerf!!")
...also, Egil is a strong independent Machina who don't need no jail. instead, he is the jailer
π: 0 β©: 0
//screaming it looks soooooo cool
*Edit
HA I SEE THY TOOOODDDD
he should totally remain as Crimson face's design tho c;
π: 0 β©: 1
thanks!
hehe, maybe when i ever finish this I'll hide a little tood face engraved in his arm joint as an easter egg. And it will be part of the real design! If it's not there, IT'S WRONG
lmao
π: 0 β©: 0