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Published: 2014-02-21 02:58:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 584; Favourites: 23; Downloads: 1
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Description "Dear friend, what's the time?
Is this really the borderline?
Does it really mean so much to you?
Are you afraid?  Or is it true?"
- Paul McCartney, "Dear Friend"

After the breakup, John spoke many bitter, bitter words about Paul.  This is Paul's incredibly sad response.
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Comments: 36

julia1a [2017-05-31 20:33:47 +0000 UTC]

I think deep down, john and paul really had a brotherly understanding about the idea. at the time, bitterness and a willingness to break free was present when they were going through the last two years of the group.

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figooza990 [2014-03-21 02:58:10 +0000 UTC]

This is sad...

Beautiful drawing!

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to figooza990 [2014-03-21 20:39:32 +0000 UTC]

Isn't it sad, though?  Poor Paul....

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figooza990 In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-03-22 03:54:27 +0000 UTC]

Poor Paul.

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Yingyue-draws [2014-02-26 00:54:20 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, but John and paul had to become friends again.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to Yingyue-draws [2014-02-27 04:14:24 +0000 UTC]

They do eventually.  : )  More or less.  They were never great friends again.  Though I'll always believe that they might have been, someday.

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Yingyue-draws In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-02-27 07:18:41 +0000 UTC]

alright

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Chrissy2 [2014-02-21 20:00:24 +0000 UTC]

Very sweet : )

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to Chrissy2 [2014-02-21 23:02:09 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!  : 3

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CurlyPenguin [2014-02-21 15:17:20 +0000 UTC]

Paul shouldn't have deserved all that hate D:

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to CurlyPenguin [2014-02-21 16:45:57 +0000 UTC]

I agree - that was not an easy time for Paul, and it's sad that he had to go through all of it.

And I wish that people now-a-days wouldn't hate on him as much as they do.  :\  But I've noticed that a lot of fans - especially online - love to defend their favorite Beatle by saying nasty things about Paul.  And I'm sure it works in reverse, too - that there are Paul fans who do nothing but say nasty things about John, or whatever.  It's all just rather depressing.  And Paul seems to get the worst of it.

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CurlyPenguin In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-03-02 14:34:14 +0000 UTC]

I hate those kind of fans, I can't understand why if you like something or someone more than others you have to throw hate on someone else. I know a couple of blokes who prefer John to Paul, and they despite the last one for no particular reason, saying that he isn't worth the half of John etc, it's pretty stupid in all truth.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to CurlyPenguin [2014-03-07 22:05:07 +0000 UTC]

I know - it's really depressing.  I see it all over the place, too - but it's especially sad in the Beatles fandom, because at the end of the day, the boys all loved each other - and I'm sure they wouldn't want all this hate and bitterness.  : (

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SarcasticLeaves [2014-02-21 03:31:22 +0000 UTC]

Paul must have been a true friend to respond in such a kind compassionate way. This is a beautiful piece. I especially love Paul's expression, it really captures the lyrics.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-02-21 16:37:06 +0000 UTC]

He's said, later, that it was really tempting to just bite back, but he didn't - and I respect him a lot for that.  And John came around, eventually - they were never bosom buddies again, but they made their peace.

Thank you!

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-02-22 01:53:57 +0000 UTC]

That must've been extremely hard to take without lashing back. I can't even imagine what he was going through.

You're welcome! =^_^=

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-02-28 03:09:35 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it would have been.    That was a really dark time for Paul, because all of his friends (except Ringo!) basically turned on him and vilified him.  And the critics were tearing down every song he wrote - regardless of the fact that he was producing some grade A music at the time.  :\  I dunno.  Paul (with the help of his super amazing wife, Linda) dealt with some pretty miserable stuff in the early 70s, before he found his footing again.  And he did it very gracefully, I think - he was always fairly respectful, publicly, to the people he was in conflict with.    One of the many reasons I adore him.

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-02-28 22:44:51 +0000 UTC]

Why is it good people like him are always vilified and people like Bieber (who keep doing unspeakably horrible things) are defended and even praised? I just don't understand it. I guess it just goes to show what a messed up world we live in. I knew that The Beatles all went through some drama, but I had no idea all this went on. Poor Paul, I can't even imagine. But I guess everything he went through just made him stronger in the end. It was a true test of his character.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-03-01 22:38:09 +0000 UTC]

I'll never understand it.    I do know that John Lennon, because he was murdered, has become something of a martyr - and a lot of people love him without really knowing much about him.  And, because of that, they assume he hated Paul, and, therefore, Pual must be horrible.  So, even today, Paul gets a lot of crap from people - despite that fact that, at the end of the day, Paul and John loved each other.  It's pretty sad.

Oh, I could talk for hours about Beatle drama!  The abridged version is that John and Paul were super close friends, and that friendship held the band together.  Paul was the most musically gifted, John was the best leader, and together they got the rest of the band to do some amazing stuff.  But then John got distracted... kinda lazy, actually.  Paul tried to step up and take over the role that John left - the leader.  But he wasn't as good at it - he didn't command authority, and he tried to be diplomatic - not a good thing for a leader to do.  And basically the other members just developed a lot of animosity for him.  This was the era of Sgt. Pepper - Abbey Road, so they were making phenomenal music... but it ended with a really nasty blowout.
Paul was in love with the band, so he tried desperately to keep it together.  He prolonged things, but his efforts just made the eventual break more explosive.  Without him, though, The Beatles never would have made their finest music.

I will never understand why there's so many biopics about Lennon, but no one has ever made a movie about the tragedy that is Paul's attempt to keep the band together.

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-03-02 06:55:08 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it seems that way based off what I've heard from other people. I've never actually done too much reading on The Beatles myself, it was mainly reading things from other people. A lot of people seemed to have made their own assumptions of what happened, how it all ended. I know no one will never know the whole story, but it's sad that they don't even seem to listen to Paul.

Wow, you really wouldn't think all that was going on at the time. It's amazing what goes on behind the scenes. It just goes to show how different things were back then. Now, you'd be hearing it all over Twitter or some other social media network. Actually, it's kind of interesting to think about how they would have been if they were a young band today. But I digress.

I don't either. He's really the only one you hear about too. It really surprises me that there hasn't been movies made about Paul.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-03-07 22:16:53 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, there's a lot of that - I try not o make too many assumptions about the personal lives of the Beatles, but I'm sure I'm guilty of it, too.    I just try to stick to what I've heard in interviews from the people directly involved.

Isn't it insane, though?  And I'm sure there was much more to it.  But there were reports of Paul leaving the studio in tears frequently, and nasty arguments, and... it's just really, really sad.
It is interesting to think about what the Beatles would have been like, now.  Especially with some of the social differences between then and know.  Hmmm.  I bet a lot of the inner workings still would have been kept very hidden - Paul put a lot of effort into the band's image up, and I'm sure he would've been much the same, today.  He doesn't like putting his actual emotions out for everyone to see - that's what makes songs like the Abbey Road medley and "Dear Friend" so striking.  But, yeah, a lot of stuff would have been much more visible.  Uncomfortably so, I'd wager. 

I like John... but I think he's pretty overrated, in most ways.  :\  He and Paul were a great team, but John's solo stuff was never that good, I'm afraid.  And... he had some issues.  Poor guy.  But I don't think his troubles justified a lot of the crap that he put other people through.  Especially Cynthia, his first wife.  :\  I don't know.  I try not to judge, because who am I to do any such thing?  But it does make me sad that so many people pass over Paul in favor of John, who was... troubled.  In ways that most people refuse to point out.

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-03-07 23:17:32 +0000 UTC]

I think we're all guilty of that. Or at least I know I am. It's really too easy to read/watch certain things and not make certain assumptions.

It is. That had to be horrible, I can't even imagine how he could possibly deal with all that. You can really tell Paul is a true artist for that reason, he put everything in his work rather than taking it out on others like so many do today. It's probably the reason his songs were so good.

I agree. To be honest, there was one point that I was just sick about hearing about him altogether. Yeah, I've heard about some of his issues. I agree. Plus we really don't know the whole story since we weren't there. Not that it justifies anything he did, it doesn't. But we don't know what was going on inside his head to make him do some of the things he did. It makes me sad too. I still don't really understand it, but it seems to be the way things are in this world sadly.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-03-13 22:20:50 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, very true.

It would've been horrendous.  I'm just really glad that he had his wife there for him.  Linda was an amazing woman, and they'd just had a little girl, Mary, and so his family life was wonderful... even if the rest of his life was falling to pieces.  He even had a little step-daughter, who he absolutely adored!

Yeah, I agree completely.  He was a talented man, to be certain, but I just can't help but feel a little weird about his reputation today, in light of some of his darker moments.    And it wouldn't bother me as much as it does if people acknowledged that he had flaws... but a lot of people just don't.
and "imagine" is a really overrated song.

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-03-14 00:54:34 +0000 UTC]

I can't imagine how he would've been if he didn't have his wife and kids there with him. I heard somewhere that he and Linda spent very few nights apart after they were married. Talk about a man who loved his wife.

I know what you mean. I feel the same way. I know what you mean, it's like he's perfect in their eyes.

I agree. I'm actually not a fan of that particular song.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-03-17 03:45:43 +0000 UTC]

Yeah - they only spent nine days apart.    They had such a beautiful relationship.

Yeah... the world is funny.  I'll also never really understand The Rolling Stones.    Especially Mick Jagger.  He just never struck me as a particularly pleasant person.  Though I'll admit that I know very little about him.

Yeaaaaaaah... I don't think that song would be remembered half as well as it is if John hadn't died so tragically.  I mean, there were a LOT of peace anthems being written back then, and I can name three off the top of my head that I like significantly better than "Imagine".  That don't have anti-religious themes.

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-03-17 21:18:05 +0000 UTC]

That's just amazing.

I don't know much about The Rolling Stones myself, only that I'm not too crazy about them or their music in general. In fact, I think there are only two songs I even remotely enjoy listening to by them. I probably know even less about Mick Jagger. The only reason the name even stands out to me now is because of that song by Maroon 5 that plays on the radio.

I agree. I remember when I first started really listening to the lyrics of that song and I was just completely shocked by it. It just amazed me that a song like that could become as popular as it did. Than again, it seems like a lot of John's fans just follow him blindly.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-04-12 19:26:00 +0000 UTC]

I know a few of their songs, which are... okay?  Ish?  Not great.  They were sold as "more edgy Beatles" back in the day, but they were a lot less talented, all around.  And Mick Jagger had no moves.   

Yesterday I was looking up "inspirational songs", because I'd just heard "Rainbow Connection" and was feeling great about the world.  But then every list I opened had "Imagine", and I was left fairly disappointed. 

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-04-13 18:20:09 +0000 UTC]

I remember hearing about that. I find it funny how a lot of people think "more edgy" means better. Maybe not, but apparently Maroon 5 thought he had enough to write a song about it. But than again, this is a band who uses a same/similar melody for most of their hit songs.

Oh my gosh! I haven't heard that song in forever! I love that song! I don't blame you. As horrible as this might sound, it doesn't really surprise me that a lot of lists contain the song "Imagine". Though I know a lot of people who don't even know the true meaning behind the lyrics of that song.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-04-14 22:28:20 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... some people do.     I think that Maroon 5 probably meant it to be kinda funny, but a lot of people don't get it.  Regardless, that song annoys the dickens out of me.  It has a miserably catchy hook, unfortunately. 

It's one of my favorites!  My parents raised me on The Muppets, so I have a lot of fond memories of that song.  :3  And, yeah, I wasn't surprised... but a little disappointed, still.

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-04-14 22:42:47 +0000 UTC]

It wouldn't surprise me if they did. Yeah, me too. I do enjoy some of their songs, but more because of the catchy tune. But they're not something I'd list in my top favorite songs of all time.

Yeah. I know what you mean, I would feel the same way.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-04-14 22:59:03 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I don't mind them as a whole - it's just that one song.  It gets stuck in my head and drives me crazy - not helped by the fact that I'm not a huge fan of Mr. Jagger! 

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-04-14 23:46:55 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I see! Yeah, I know what you mean. That's probably my least favorite from what I heard on the radio. I'm still not a huge fan of them though. At least not big enough to go out and buy their CDs. I believe I currently have one song of theirs? And that's a song that isn't played on radio a whole bunch, at least as far as I'm aware? And that one is "Won't Go Home Without You".

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-04-20 15:46:01 +0000 UTC]

Huh, I don't think I know that song!  I basically just hear what's on the radio.    Actually, I probably judge a lot of artists incorrectly based on what they play on the radio.

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-04-20 21:37:49 +0000 UTC]

I don't think many people have actually. I'll link it here if you want to listen to it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4jFVP… You're not alone, I do the same thing. It's only after hearing a song that isn't played on the radio five million times that I realized how great the artist actually is.

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ThisBirdTooHasFlown In reply to SarcasticLeaves [2014-04-27 19:23:15 +0000 UTC]

Oh - I actually like that song quite a lot!  You're probably very right.  I unfortunately have a bit of a superiority complex when it comes to music....   I'm trying to get over that, haha.

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SarcasticLeaves In reply to ThisBirdTooHasFlown [2014-04-27 23:43:33 +0000 UTC]

Yay! No worries, I tend to be the same way about certain things. And pretty much everyone I know is always more particular about one thing or another.  And honestly, there's nothing wrong with knowing what you like. You're just being true to who you are and no one can argue with that.

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