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Oddsword [2011-08-18 07:04:29 +0000 UTC]
The last one in the bottom right corner looks KICK-ASS!!! As if giving them super-dense muscle tissue, bone structures and the ability to pull a man's SPINE out wasn't enough, you had to seal them in POWER-ARMOR and give them weapons that look as if the recoil ALONE could kill an unmodified man!
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thomastapir In reply to Oddsword [2011-08-20 03:11:10 +0000 UTC]
HAHAHAHA, thanks man! I'd LOVE to do more with power-armored posthumans in the future, and your enthusiasm is infectious in this regard, so thanks for the motivation! : D
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newtman001 [2010-01-19 10:35:29 +0000 UTC]
What is this book "Future Man" of which you speak?
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thomastapir In reply to newtman001 [2010-01-19 19:40:35 +0000 UTC]
FUTURE MAN, by Brian Stableford ([link] )! It's referenced in the bibliography to Man After Man...It's creepy and outdated and strangely pseudoscientific, but worth it, I think, simply for the weirdness factor. Chapter 7, "Engineering People," has a lot of the ideas and designs for modified humans that were clearly cannibalized by Dixon (aquatic people, vacuum people, etc. etc.). It also has touches on some of the other common creepy sci-fi tropes, like the headless GE super-chickens.
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newtman001 In reply to thomastapir [2010-01-19 20:30:56 +0000 UTC]
Hey, is this the book that has a shot of a biotech-enhanced future human? Little guy, atrophied body, with external organs and an antigravity levitator? I recall seeing such a picture in OMNI many years ago, and have searched for the book ever since. Even if it isn't that book, I need to snag a copy. Thank you for the link!
Also, thank you for being out there! I would love to see the cool places on your list in Portland! As I said in an earlier note, I'm in love with Portland and plan to visit again as soon as I have the money. The biggest impression of the city I took with me was that it's a shadow-box, full of cool things in hidden places that peek around every corner. Man, it's rare that I find people who are into this aspect of science fiction, what I consider the cutting edge. I look forward to talking with you further, and sharing ideas.
Right now I'm diving into The Mechazoic Era, a time period deep in the future of The Galaxy Chronicles. It's a riff on Zoids. In that toyline/metaseries, we find a world (Zi) that is home to naturally occurring biomechanical lifeforms. The colonists affect Zoid evolution by using "Zoid cores" as the bodies of giant robotic creatures.
I'm exploring the question of "What happens when these creatures are exported from their home planet?" In other words, bimechanical panspermia. Zoid cores are exported, and adapt to new planetary environments. Some transports are lost, their cargo scattered into space. Still others are integrated into new and strange biomes, and reshape their adopted/adapted lifeforms. Please see my Scrapbook for a couple of examples a-borning. Anyway, that's just one small part of GC that I'm working on. I must say that your work has re-energized my will to continue. Thank you!^_^
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thomastapir In reply to newtman001 [2010-01-31 18:16:19 +0000 UTC]
Holy crap--this message got buried in my inbox and I just now waded through to it! I'm sorry, Newton!
re: "little guy, atrophied body, external organs"--Man, that doesn't ring a bell at all. And I wish it did, because it sounds freakin' awesome! The closest thing I can think of is a near-comical image I saw in a very strange book from the 1950s about the future of space exploration. It was just a bald head in a flying saucer, which doesn't exactly double your chances for a date on Friday night. OMNI had so much cool stuff back in the day...Some of the paintings and article illos from that mag had a profound and seminal influence on me that persists to this day.
Also, MECHAZOIC ERA--I am once again flabbergasted at the degree of conceptual overlap in our creative process(es)...I mean, I guess it's a little less eerie if you look at from the POV of similar creative influences, but still...I've got to copy-and-paste you something I wrote several years ago, I think you'll be similarly amazed!
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newtman001 In reply to thomastapir [2010-02-01 05:11:09 +0000 UTC]
Hey, no worries. OK - I'm gonna have to find a library of OMNI magazines, and find that book. I thought it was Dougal Dixon, but no dice in any book I've come across. I WILL FIND THAT PICTURE.
Man, I've reached the conclusion that great minds think alike, and that there's something otherworldly going on.... Actually I've realized that I've got to get over my thing and write my stories - I run into more and more people who dig the concepts I've got, and who, like yourself, have similar ideas aching to get out.
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thomastapir In reply to newtman001 [2010-02-01 07:34:09 +0000 UTC]
In the meantime, dig some Dixon apocrypha: ([link] )
(Apologies if I already linked ya this one--I blame ~whale!)
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newtman001 In reply to thomastapir [2010-02-02 03:59:16 +0000 UTC]
THAT'S THE LITTLE DUDE!!!!
THAT'S the guy I was telling you about! So, I'm NOT crazy - at least not in that way...^_^ All those attachments are biotech. Ol' Cupcake-Head was so advanced that his civilization had engineered all support systems to be external and replaceable. So, all that's left is a brain and an atrophied body.
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newtman001 In reply to thomastapir [2010-02-04 18:46:00 +0000 UTC]
I hear you. I think I'm at the midpoint of that animation right about now... ^_^
I believe it's time for me to Go Outside today. My cortex is bruised from trying to fix my printer link with my computer. Ahh, the joys of "plug-and-pray" peripherals... (sigh)
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newtman001 In reply to newtman001 [2010-02-05 03:57:22 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad the windshield wiper was an inexpensive fix. Those are always the best kind.^_^
I think I'm going to tangle with the printer here after Stewart and Colbert. Wish me luck... o_0 If this goes as easy as the kitty litter I'll be grateful. Somehow, though, I feel that doing the litter will remain a cakewalk next to this Mongolian clusterfuck of an interface problem.
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newtman001 In reply to thomastapir [2010-02-04 23:57:47 +0000 UTC]
Oooooh... I hate it when that happens! Hopefully that's all the auto repair you need right now.
I read Nemo Ramjet's book. What a sad tale. It's really made me think. I've been stressed about writing a series of stories about a six million year timespan, and here this person has written a 100-page book about a 50 million year stretch! Puts the whole "impossible task" thing in perspective.
Speaking of impossible tasks, time to do the cat litter, and see what I can do with this damn printer issue...
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thomastapir In reply to newtman001 [2010-02-05 03:37:22 +0000 UTC]
Yeah it didn't work out that bad! Took about 10 minutes and cost only $14.01, which was a lot more reasonable than I expectED.
Isn't it incredible? It's pretty amazing that he DID cram so much material into such a brief treatment, and he really captured an epic sense of scale. Very inspiring.
Good luck with the printer, mon frere! (And the cat litter too, of course.)
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commander-salamander [2009-05-11 00:11:20 +0000 UTC]
Very interesting concepts. I am in accordance with Whales in that the guy in the middle is total win. Certainly it reminds me of one of the topics discussed in the book Future Man (I read it a number of times and it always creeped me out)...
The bit you are talking about in relation to 2G planets is very interesting. It made me think about mechanical systems that could be used by people in such environments. Anti-gravity/earth-gravity suits and that sort of thing.
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commander-salamander In reply to thomastapir [2009-05-12 11:28:48 +0000 UTC]
I could do with more bikkits, yes. Especially since I have finished them all and now my tummy is lonely.
I also thought on some perhaps poorer planets, the machines might also be attached to class. In than the lower classes end up being your thickset and stunted grunts, the gracile upper class being distinctly elegant in contrast. Perhaps to the point of breeding for fine-ness and being distinct even to 1Gs.
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thomastapir In reply to commander-salamander [2009-05-12 20:20:12 +0000 UTC]
Now THAT is a cool idea...The lower classes simply can't afford the machines, that would be my take on it. Then fragility/gracility would be a status symbol, like pale skin during the Georgian era (only sweaty, uncouth peasants who spend the day working outdoors develop suntans). Now of course suntans are a status symbol because of the implication that you have leisure time and the ability to travel to sunny locations--at least here in the cold rainy land of the Ice People.
In Planet of the Damned it was the exact opposite; Earth was considered this overcrowded cesspool, a burned-out repository of faulty genes. The baseline Earth people were viewed with contempt as weak and sickly by the healthy, selectively adapted inhabitants of the rugged frontier planets.
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commander-salamander In reply to thomastapir [2009-05-12 20:58:57 +0000 UTC]
Basically yeah!
The thought just came into my mind about the cesspool earth. It has something to do with people's attitudes to colonisation. Here we never rejected our colonisers, although I cannot speak of the Maori point a view on that one, and I'm probably horribly wrong, but for a long time England to the white settlers was still 'home'. They might have been born here, and their parents come as little children, but England was still home. Hence the reason why we jumped to help out during the first and second world wars, we had to serve 'home'. We don't do that any more. But we still have a right of passage where you go and work in a bar in England for a year.
I wonder if the idea of rejecting the colonisers and so Earth comes from this, the way in which the culture who writes the SF treated their colonisers.
As for selectivity, well there is a movement for the preservation of hardy and 'bassal' breeds of livestock. I'd say that they are being hasty in rejecting baseline humans.
Mind all of this is coloured by my perceptions and I'm no futurist!
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thomastapir In reply to commander-salamander [2009-05-13 00:49:27 +0000 UTC]
So an American author would be more likely to take the perspective of the "mother civilization" on Earth as an oppressive colonial power...Interesting. In fact that's exactly the way it plays out in almost every Harry Harrison space opera...Most of his stories are set in a period of "post-collapse reconstruction" where the worlds of the galaxy are just starting to reestablish communication with one another and perhaps build a new civlization after the long fallow period following the catastrophic war against the "Earth Empire." In many cases they don't even know where the human race originated--in the Stainless Steel Rat series Earth is referred to as "Dirt," the mythical homeworld of mankind! It's a pretty good setting for space opera, though, allowing room for lots of different worlds with divergent cultures at varying technological levels. This also reflects Harrison's life experience, as he has travelled all over the world and speaks many different languages.
re: "As for selectivity, well there is a movement for the preservation of hardy and 'bassal' breeds of livestock. I'd say that they are being hasty in rejecting baseline humans."
It actually plays out exactly the opposite!, because the human population on Earth is composed of unfit people with flawed genes kept alive through medicine, while the populations out on the frontier planets have been put through the crucible of natural selection, leaving only the healthiest and hardiest alive. --And that's also a very stereotypically "American" idea, I guess, reflecting all that rugged Old West BS...
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commander-salamander In reply to thomastapir [2009-05-13 21:28:48 +0000 UTC]
I suppose it would be a bit much to ask everyone to live in a galactic brotherhood wouldn't it?
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thomastapir In reply to commander-salamander [2009-05-14 05:05:10 +0000 UTC]
"What are you, some kinda commie?!" <- Stereotypical knee-jerk American response, which I unfortunately see on a daily basis.
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commander-salamander In reply to thomastapir [2009-05-14 10:15:48 +0000 UTC]
You do?
Well I'm not surprised, as everyone knows reading actually causes communism. It's fact. You being in a business associated with the peddling of liberal pap, should know this. Unless, you are putting on an act to cover your involvement in their inner circle!
I don't think you should be allowed near our good Republican Christian children.
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SaucyLobster [2009-05-09 12:25:34 +0000 UTC]
Too buff... beating my eyes into submission.
I like the guy on the bottom left, don't really know what it is about him I just do. The centre ones face reminds me of Seth McFarlane.
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Doodlebotbop [2009-05-09 07:04:44 +0000 UTC]
I'd take some of these guys on my side during a brawl any day! XD
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Doodlebotbop In reply to thomastapir [2009-05-12 06:25:15 +0000 UTC]
XD 'on my side' doesn't have to mean 'by my side' I could just say. "Sic' 'em boy! There's a case of smelt in it for you once you're victorious!"
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whalewithlegs [2009-05-09 05:27:27 +0000 UTC]
Dude, that guy in the middle = WIN.
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thomastapir In reply to whalewithlegs [2009-05-09 07:05:16 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I think he would! It just might not be in, you know, its original condition.
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whalewithlegs In reply to thomastapir [2009-05-09 07:55:17 +0000 UTC]
On a total tangent, A story that I had been trying to remember the title to is "Mrs. Todd's Shortcut" By Stephen King. I think I had been talking with you about this.
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thomastapir In reply to whalewithlegs [2009-05-12 06:12:04 +0000 UTC]
Huh!, I don't think so...The first thing I flashed on was Mignola story "Goodbye, Mr. Tod," in one of the Hellboy anthologies. I'll note you about this.
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