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Published: 2015-10-06 21:56:37 +0000 UTC; Views: 11847; Favourites: 118; Downloads: 137
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Description While the Kingdom of France under Phillipe Petain supported Miguel Primo de Rivera against a coup it also supported the newly formed, yet still instable Ditadura National in Portugal under Oscar Carmona and helped it evolve into a stable, Boulangerist regime. The regime installed Duarte Nuno, current pretender to the Portugese Throne as king of the newly formed state called "Estado Novo". Antonio de Oliveira Salazzar became the new head of government of the new state. 

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Vouriessing [2022-11-07 18:29:19 +0000 UTC]

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Steph-Le-Vehellaire [2022-03-23 11:15:43 +0000 UTC]

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TiltschMaster In reply to Steph-Le-Vehellaire [2022-03-23 16:55:52 +0000 UTC]

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AntonioFL [2019-01-13 00:46:21 +0000 UTC]

In your last phrase the name is Antonio de Oliveira Salazar not Salaz"z"ar, and nice work you made there.

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Hubria [2015-10-07 13:51:26 +0000 UTC]

Nooooooooo! Not a Monarchy! Not with Salazar! Not like this...

Also it's Salazar with one Z

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Portugal1910 In reply to Hubria [2022-02-04 20:53:29 +0000 UTC]

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TiltschMaster In reply to Hubria [2015-10-07 19:30:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, right. Sorry  

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Raubritter [2015-10-07 06:30:13 +0000 UTC]

good days....

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TiltschMaster In reply to Raubritter [2015-10-07 10:57:45 +0000 UTC]

Salazzar was a fascist tyrannt ...

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Raubritter In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-07 20:04:15 +0000 UTC]

But Portugal was a great colonial empire and that also did good to Africa... I do not know anything totally horrible Sallazar did. Except not allowing votes, but well...

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TiltschMaster In reply to Raubritter [2015-10-07 20:45:06 +0000 UTC]

Wie jedes Kolonialreich war auch das Portugiesische ein verbrecherisches Reich von Ausbeutern und Sklaventreibern. Glaubst du allen ernstes, dass Afrika vom Kolonialismus profitiert hat? Wie denn bitte? Weil sie jetzt Kapitalisten sind, ein paar befestigte Straßen haben und einige von ihnen Christen geworden sind? Das kommt zum Preis der Vernichtung der eigenen Kultur, der Ausbeutung der eigenen Bevölkerung, der Zerstückelung in künstliche Staatengeblide und dem millionenfachen Verkauf von Afrikanern als Ware auf den Sklavenmärkten der Welt. Niemand profitiert jemals vom Kolonialismus außer den Kolonialherren. 

Und Salazar war ein Tyrann. Er hat die demokratische Entwicklung seines Landes unterbrochen, das Land in die Armut geführt, Liberale, Anarchisten, Kommunisten, Republikaner, einfach jeden Regimegegner verhaftet und später manipuliert und unterdrückt, hat Schlägermilizen nach faschistischem Vorbild gegründet ... der Mann war eben Faschist. Eine mildere Form von Faschist, aber das ist eben immer noch Scheiße die etwas weniger stinkt ...

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Raubritter In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-07 21:02:55 +0000 UTC]

Wir reden von Afrika, was fürne Kultur denn? Primitive Holzmasken und steinzeitliches (im wahrsten Sinne) Jäger-und Sammlerverhalten? 20.000 Jahre Menschheitsgeschichte gingen spurlos beinahe ganzen Kontinent vorbei, mit Ausnahme der Elfenbeinküste, Äthiopiens und der muslimischen Nordküste. Gut sie mussten ausnahmsweise mal arbeiten, als die Kolonialherren da waren, aber komischerweise regen sich da fast nur weiße Sozialromantiker auf, sehr alte Afrikaner reden nur positiv von der Zeit, als es Stabilität, gute Infrastruktur, Bildungsmöglichkeiten sowie ein relativ unkorruptes staatliches System mit Recht und Ordnung gab...

Abgesehen davon hat meine Familie den Adelstitel durch Sklavenhandel bezahlt, du redest da leider mit dem Falschen :-D

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TiltschMaster In reply to Raubritter [2015-10-07 21:52:15 +0000 UTC]

Wow.

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Raubritter In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-08 20:49:30 +0000 UTC]

Da kiekste wa, Keule? XD

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SoaringAven [2015-10-06 22:29:29 +0000 UTC]

This is . . . so beautiful!!! *tears of joy* ;A;

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TiltschMaster In reply to SoaringAven [2015-10-06 22:34:31 +0000 UTC]

You like? :>

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SoaringAven In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-06 23:56:57 +0000 UTC]

Jaaa :3 Long live the monarchy! >x< Also ze pretty blue flag :3

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TiltschMaster In reply to SoaringAven [2015-10-07 00:02:43 +0000 UTC]

Monarchist scum!  

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SoaringAven In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-07 00:19:01 +0000 UTC]

C'est moi :3 

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Ameraudur [2015-10-06 22:03:37 +0000 UTC]

Yay! Monarchies are back! Im over all the socialist republics youve been posting recently!

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TiltschMaster In reply to Ameraudur [2015-10-06 22:34:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! Good that some people can still stand them

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Ameraudur In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-06 23:53:57 +0000 UTC]

Why wouldnt they? They are best form of government in the world. Of the top 10 countries in the UN Human Development Index most are constitutional monarchies!

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TiltschMaster In reply to Ameraudur [2015-10-07 00:06:48 +0000 UTC]

No, I meant my socialist emblemes Actualy, as a socialist I could not agree with your comment. Becuase honestly, the monarchistic character of those states has nothing to do with their human rights record. The actual nations with monarchies where the human rights record is tied of the monarchic form of governments are actualy pretty low on that list because there the moanrchs have actual influence and they do not wield that in a positive way. Where ever a monarchy is also a well developed country with human rights, people have actualy faught against those monarchs for centuries and made it so they don't wield any meaningful political influence at all and actualy bow to human rights in the first place. All monarchs nowadays are are tax-evading multi million buissnesses with a not at all justifiable cult of personality ... Sorry  

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Ameraudur In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-07 00:48:12 +0000 UTC]

Haha. Well you need to argue that with the United Nations! They are ones providing the facts!
 

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TiltschMaster In reply to Ameraudur [2015-10-07 01:19:24 +0000 UTC]

They are delivering numbers. Weither the form of government has actualy anything to do with those numbers is not reflected in what they give out. And you can actualy do this yourself right now: Name one monarchy in wich the monarch actualy wields significant political power that has a good human rights record I can't come up with a single one.

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Ameraudur In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-07 02:21:42 +0000 UTC]

Political power and constitutional power are two different things. I dont want a king to reflect politics, because politics is dirty, self serving and transient. I want a king whose presence reflect culture, stability and progress. Human rights are better in constitutional monarchies than they are in most republics.

What I do know is that countries like Germany and Russia suffered terribly under republican regimes, and ones which they nominally wanted and supported, whereas countries like Australia, Canada, Britain, Denmark, Sweden, Holland never suffered totalitarianism.  

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TiltschMaster In reply to Ameraudur [2015-10-07 11:00:39 +0000 UTC]

... you are kidding, right? Does absolutism ring any bell at all? Or the ethnic cleansing Australia suffered during the colonial period?  

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Ameraudur In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-07 22:30:40 +0000 UTC]

Well seeing as the worst ethnic cleansing in history was carried out under a republic, and one that proceeded to engage in it across Europe, I think you are being selective about your historical standards!

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TiltschMaster In reply to Ameraudur [2015-10-07 22:35:26 +0000 UTC]

Nazi Germany was a republic? After wich political standards?  

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Ameraudur In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-07 23:22:37 +0000 UTC]

Because it didnt have a monarch as a head of state, and when Hitler died he actually named Doenitz as his sucessor as President. Only Republics have presidents dont they?  

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TiltschMaster In reply to Ameraudur [2015-10-07 23:27:30 +0000 UTC]

... no. A republic is a form of government where the head of state is periodicaly elected by the populace and where the government is bound to the rule of law. Nazi Germany was a totalitarion single-party state, not a republic. 

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Ameraudur In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-08 01:13:14 +0000 UTC]

No, a republic is country in which the head of state is not a monarch. That is a simple fact.

Just like the fact that Hitler named Doenitz to succeed him as president. 

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TiltschMaster In reply to Ameraudur [2015-10-08 09:03:21 +0000 UTC]

I don't realy get what Hitler's line of succession has anything to do with the fact that an empowered monach never works to the benefit of the people, but hey, what ever you say. 

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Ameraudur In reply to TiltschMaster [2015-10-08 22:11:49 +0000 UTC]

You said Nazi germany was not a republic, it was.

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