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”You’re locked in a fear that is real, but a nightmare that isn’t. Everything will be fine, you just have to open your eyes.”


I was just sketching and slapping on colours and it somehow evolved into this thing. I wanted to line it but ahaha... 

I tried//laughs forever
The image in my head is always better


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Star-Von-Alicorn [2015-08-14 13:58:43 +0000 UTC]

Wow this is so amazing 

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Tishawish In reply to Star-Von-Alicorn [2015-08-15 02:32:19 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for thinking so ; v ;

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Star-Von-Alicorn In reply to Tishawish [2015-08-16 15:10:26 +0000 UTC]

^.^ no problem

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TheGothWeaboo306 [2015-05-14 23:52:48 +0000 UTC]

 I just died a little inside from the reminder that Haru and Mako almost kissed in season one.

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Tishawish In reply to TheGothWeaboo306 [2015-05-16 04:31:32 +0000 UTC]

aaaaa, you reminded me about it ; v ;

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TheGothWeaboo306 In reply to Tishawish [2015-05-16 22:10:55 +0000 UTC]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! ;; ;; ;; ;; ;;

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-10 07:06:37 +0000 UTC]

My goodness, this is so breath-taking!! The concept is just stunning and it's always one of my favorite things to see Haru helping Makoto rather than the other way around, to breifly reference Teen Wolf, I think Haru is as much Makoto's anchor as Makoto is Haru's, yes, Makoto is much more outwardly and obviously that sort of person for Haru, much more externally an anchor because in many ways he's the bridge between Haru/Haru's way of thinking and what the societal norms are, Haru would struggle greatly without Makoto and get locked in his own headspace, but for Makoto we have the same situation, only reversed, Makoto is a very gentle, charming individual but I read him as someone who, atleast at times, is very shy and almost quiet to a fault, we've seen repeatedly that he has a very hard time saying no to someone or putting his needs above anyone else's but because he fits- in a way too much- in with what is deemed "acceptable" people tend to not notice or blatantly ignore his feelings because unlike Haru he doesn't often express them unless they're completely positive, Haru is almost like a guard, even if he doesn't seem to be he's very intuitive and concious of Makoto's feelings and tries to abide by Makoto's wishes not to make waves and usually helps him quietly, privately, and I so wish that we had seen more of the Haru -> Makoto connection, because we were saturated with Makoto -> Haru and it feels a little lopsided, but ah here I've gone and just blathered all over your gorgeous page, I just love this, it has such a gigantic amount of symbolisim and reference to how deep this relationship is to me that I just can't stop looking at it, you create such lovely, emotionally driven peices!!!

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-11 03:31:20 +0000 UTC]

NO NO YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO FEEL BAD ABOUT BLATHERING MAKOHARU THOUGHTS ON MY STUFF. I LOVE IT. I really agree with what you're saying about these two, but let me just use your comment as a segue into my thoughts on how I really wish there was more Haru->Makoto(or everyone->Makoto tbh), because throughout Eternal Summer, Makoto has honestly been fighting his demons by himself(which is what you have pointed out about Makoto putting everyone's need before his). While everyone was trying to help Haru, and Rin's problems were for the most part solved, Makoto had to figure out his future by himself without the help of his friends. Everyone was so fixated on helping Haru that Makoto's needs were completely overlooked(save for Rin who did try to talk to him, but it just never really panned out) and it's a sad thing to realize that he really didn't have his friends opinions/support before he made his decision to start coaching. I feel like that race he had with Haru just cemented his thoughts of 'I'm not good enough, so I'll settle instead of reach', because I really do think, that if he were given the chance, he would have continued competitive swimming... so I guess this could be an argument against Haru->Makoto just because of what KyoAni has chosen to show us, but I wish that people realize that their relationship isn't just Makoto->Haru but really Haru<->Makoto. Otherwise, Haru wouldn't have been so upset after their argument and so supportive of Makoto's choice towards the end bUT YEAH, JUST THOUGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN PLAGUING ME ABOUT THESE BOYS. Thanks for giving me a chance to just spew my thoughts, though they're all over the place AHAH

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-11 09:27:41 +0000 UTC]

Chances are always welcome for spewing thoughts I know, there were several times in ES that looked like a set up for Makoto having his own break down (everyone did in that season except Makoto) and yet everytime it just didn't happen and I think it was, sadly, one of those real life moments of "We only have 13 episodes to finish this story and what needs to be there more?", it's really sad that of everyone's Makoto's was the one to get cut because people like Makoto, who I have met versions of in my life actually, do often get treated in the "You'll be ok, I can work on my problem over here, you don't need me, you're always happy so you don't need help" attitude and it can be very distressing and alienating and difficult to deal with, Free! does such a great job on showing people's inner workings and the different kinds of stress and anxiety that can build up and how each different person expresses it (hiding, anger, depression, etc) and yet sadly Makoto's is the one unmentioned, just like in real life, I wish we had seen his break down, I wish he had had the chance to have a break down and let everyone help him through it, but I do think the amount of time spent on Haru was important (although maybe I'm biased because I've been in semi-simalar situations) and I'm glad it had the spotlight, I wish Makoto had gotten his moment, and I hope if Free! ever comes back with anything it'll be Makoto-centric

Also I agree, I absolutely think Makoto was settling and he could have been a pro swimmer, I'm not sure if he really wanted to, because I read him as someone who's too fragile emotionally to handle all the stress that comes with any pro-sport, but I think he could have found something higher to reach for than coaching, and I think he settled, wich is very sad

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-11 23:32:37 +0000 UTC]

It really was unfortunate;; JUSTICE FOR MAKOTO(and Sousuke too tbh what happened to him). I completely agree on the time spent on Haru, it was hard to see them break him, but it showed so much depth to his character that people didn't get to see in S1. People were just pinning him as a water-mackerel-obsessed quiet boy(which he is not just!!!). So much of his thoughts and reactions are internal, the way he expresses himself outwardly is so minute that it really is a little difficult to understand him from the outside, so all the expressions he showed in ES was a painful but welcome change.

Maybe they just had to cut down on Makoto's time because they had him break down in the first season already... but that's a different story all together. The whole thing with the future, and leaving friends behind, and living up to expectations hit so close to home as the show aired, so I understand the bias don't worry haha. I just want to see all of them happy!!! And I guess we got that to a degree! And well, the ova is coming out soon, and the Free! event is happening in a week and people are speculating a Free! movie is going to be announced then. Fingers crossed!

As for me, I read Makoto as someone who has a really strong mental fortitude when it comes to things that really matter(the way he handles his problems with his own strength could be testament to that, I think!). And swimming does matter to him because he enjoys it, but also because it matters to his friends. So, I'd probably say he could handle the stress, and he would handle it well especially because he has the people he loves with him! But that's just me ahaha. Aaa, if only they pushed him harder to reach for the stars

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-12 08:59:08 +0000 UTC]

It's really very tragic, I hope that whatever Free! material comes out next is about Makoto going through something of his own, because yes, his problems in season one were COMPLETELY different, yes, I agree about Haru, I think back in season one I still just sort of grouped him and Makoto as my favorites but couldn't really single out any qualities I loved about Haru (other than the general idea of him) but as of season two I'm really quite a big Haru fan, I know what that intense anxiety feels like and even though I'm a big MakoHaru shipper I feel that Rin taking Haru to Australia- that entire episode, and really, just the understanding Rin has of Haru, are so extremely important, I was explaining some stuff to my mom about Free! yesterday in fact and it really hit me how different Makoto's relationship is to Haru versus Rin's relationship but how important it is to have both, Makoto is, in a way, Haru's link to the outside world, the world outside of his head, the world that he has to  walk through day after day and communicate with even though he doesn't want to, it's the world he's forced into, and Makoto is his guide through it, where as Rin, in a way, is Haru's guide through his own head, this is the world Haru is comfortable in, the world that he escapes to and feels comfortable in, but sometimes even that world can be hard to handle, and no matter how close Makoto is to Haru, no matter how much Makoto loves swimming, he'll never be able to step into that world the way Rin can, because it isn't something you step into, it's something you're born into, Rin was born into it like Haru was and shares that sort of internal world with him and when the waves get too high he has to have someone to help him through it, help him through his own head, rather than helping him get through the outside world, and Rin being there to help guide Haru through that is so important, I'm a writer, and I write the way Haru swims- obsessively, but she and I only communicate really online, I don't have anyone to talk to in person and drag me through that world when I can't navigate it anymore, I do have my mom to help me with most of life, sort of like Makoto, but I'm rather stuck when it comes to getting too lost in my writing (I mean it's five AM right now if that gives you any idea) and seeing that relationship between Rin and Haru as it is in season two- the end of season two especially, is just so very important

That's a good reading of him too, I can see that, personally I always sort of saw him as Haru's manager of sorts, or some sort of professional swimming manager for Olympic/professional swimmers, because he has experience in both swimming it's self as well as dealing with Haru (And thus people like Haru) and being well tempered about it, let's be honest, your average swim manager is going to have issues with Haru's mackerel obsession alone, I think if Makoto couldn't swim professionally (and in the narrative, I always saw that as just being really Haru and Rin's arena, but if Makoto had had more time to grow and kept doing competitions in college then he may very well have gotten there) I always saw him as being much more deeply involved in professional swimming in one way or another

Ah hopefully if we get anything about them post-highschool (I assume if there is going to be a movie that that would be the timeline for it) I hope to see Makoto reaching and doing more than just coaching, maybe he'll have decided to do coaching on the side and something more stable and reachy for his main goal X3

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-13 06:44:30 +0000 UTC]

What you've said is one of the reasons I absolutely love exploring the makoharurin relationship! They push and pull each other in different ways and it's just so interesting to notice all these differences. There's no "better" relationship when it comes to these three because they help each other in their own ways. Makoto and Haru are so in tune with each other, and as you said previously, they're like an anchor for each other in a world that keeps spinning. It's comfort and like being home when they're together. But with the relationship between Rin and Haru, and Makoto and Rin, it's more like adventure taking them by the hand and forcing them to move. And it's not a bad thing to be pulled into experiencing new things! The thing you said about Makoto not being born into this world that Rin and Haru was hurts me so bad omg, but I understand where you're coming from, and it kinda comes back to me wishing Makoto had been pushed and supported more; - ;

I think that being obsessed with something you love isn't really a bad thing(I'm not even up there in terms of skill and sometimes I can spend 8 hours straight trying to draw something only to scrap the final piece, so I think I can understand how you feel!). Artists(writers and painters alike) sometimes get so immersed in their work, the world just escapes them y'know? And if you manage to create something you like out of the time you spent over it, it just makes it feel worthwhile. I guess, the point is, don't be afraid to get lost in what you love, so long as you can find your way back(and if you feel you can't do that yourself, I hope you can find the Rin to your Haru!!; v ; ). 

YES!! Honestly, when KyoAni was leading us to believe that Haru was really going to go professional with Rin, my first thought was that Makoto would probably end up being a physical therapist for the Japanese National swim team ahaha.

I really don't know what they'd do if we get a movie, but I'm really excited!! It'd be so nice to see how they're doing post-highschool. I just hope the don't play up the angst too much because my heart might not make it... They could actually decide on animating one of the High Speed novels for all we know and I wouldn't even complain. I just really miss these boys;;

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-13 07:32:21 +0000 UTC]

Yes exactly, you have to have both kinds of relationships, and especially for Haru who isn't the most social duck in the pond, that really is very neccessary; I know, but in a way that just makes Makoto more special, he's someone who wasn't born into that world and yet his love for his freinds- and for the world it's self- have caused him to dig his way into it, even though it's harder for him than it is for someone who was basically born in water, it's like, I don't know if you've ever seen Bleach or Teen Wolf, but for example, Makoto is the Uryuu or Stiles of Free!, he wasn't born or forced in any way into swimming, but his love of his freinds caused him to fight harder to be on their level and be there with them and he's become a very valuable asset to them, just like Stiles isn't a werewolf- he has no actual obligation to be involved in werewolf stuff, but he puts himself through all of it because he loves his freinds, Uryuu could have easily decided to not explore his spiritual powers in any way and let Ichigo and the others fry, but he fought against everything to regain his powers to help them, Makoto is much the same way, and if fandom has taught me anything it's that the one on the outside who fights to be on the inside because he loves his freinds is usually the favorite, and Makoto definately is!

Oh yes I agree with that completely, it's just sometimes you get so caught up in the creative work you're doing that it gets very stressfull and overwelming and you can't figure out how to get out of that headspace and back into "Reality" to take a breather, or how to navigate through that headspace that's now so cluttered that it's become a negative enviroment, I liken it kind of to Yu-Gi-Oh, your head, especially as a creative person, has so many different mazes and tunnels and secret rooms that without a guide to help you navigate (like Rin is for Haru) you can get lost in there and never come out o_o And yes I am sorry I keep dropping random fandom references but I think I'm so deep in it now that it's become part of my natural speech pattern O_O

You know that was actually a VERY popular theory, that Haru and Rin would both swim for the Olympics (Japan and Australia respectively) and Makoto would be the Japanese national team's physical therapist, I saw it swimming around alot on Tumblr when Free! was airing and I'm really surprised they didn't go that route, I mean don't get me wrong, coaching is adorable and Makoto certainly has a talent for it, but physical therapy would reach just a little higher and someone as compassionate and sweet as Makoto is really needed in that kind of feild

I honestly hope they don't do one of the High Speed! novels, simply because I think Free! is one of those things where there's a much bigger story to be told around every corner, and I feel like High Speed has been told to a degree, I have a feeling it'll be one of Haru and Rin's first shared tournaments of some kind, or Rei and Nagisa taking their team to Nationals in their final year and expeirencing all the crap that comes with it wile Haru, Rin, and Makoto are forced to be on the sidelines for once, that would also be good, personally I kind of wish it would just be everyone taking a vacation to Australia and enjoying all of the things there like the kangaroos and meeting Rin's family and the gigantic pool and the koalas and such <3 Although,  to be honest, when Free! first started and the two infamous "Rei nearly drowned" episodes aired, I was 100% certain that Free! wasn't going to be the cutesy sports anime that it was promoted as being and it was going to get very horror-anime very fast and Haru was actually going to be a merman, I was 100% certain that Haru being a merman was going to be the big thing revealed at the end of the show and so because of that I sort of wish they'd do a movie version of the "Future Fish" AU where Rin is a cop, Makoto is a fireman, Haru is a merman who comes on land sometimes and works as a chef, I mean you just can't go wrong there and how cool would that be?

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-14 03:25:36 +0000 UTC]

AAA you talking about Stiles is making me miss him ahaha. I haven't actually been very immersed in fandoms until Free, so a lot of the things that happen in fandom were pretty new to me tbh! But I think you're right(because Stiles... is also my fave......)! You don't have to apologize for the fandom references, if anything, I'd have to apologize for not understanding them because they could be pretty profound haha!

IT WAS?!? Where were these people when I wanted someone to talk to about it omg;; Honestly, it was just set up so nicely if it were to pan out that way. Rin swimming for Australia, Haru for Japan, and Makoto being the national team's physical therapist ; - ; It would have been so great because they'd all still be connected further into the future!

OHHHH MY GOSH YES. If they animated more of the future fish AU I would be so happy oh man. Ah, but maybe for an OVA and not a full movie. A movie would be great to explore how they're all fairing post ES, I'm just really wary about how they would play everything out because there are so many ways they could mess up. I KNOW. Everyone was wondering if KyoAni was pulling a Madoka Magica on them(I haven't even watched that show and I know the pain LOL). But really, I'd look forward to anything at this point, that's how deprived I feel XD

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-14 11:31:49 +0000 UTC]

Oh my God Stiles is my darling I take by the past tense that you're not into Teen Wolf anymore? Depending on where you land on the fandom spectrum you've either made a fantastic choice or a terrible one I, personally, am still a huge fan, even though the fandom is going through a giant shrinkage right now... lots of drama and screaming people @_@ Oh psh, probbably not profound at all, you don't even want to know what time I'm writing this at, so you see most of these references are in fact made when I'm at a loss for sleep

On Tumblr my dear It wasn't everywhere, but it was fairly popular, I saw it go around a few times, but yes that would have really been the perfect situation! Ah it's a shame it didn't go that way...

Yeeeeeeesss, I have to admit, I'm a bit of an AU nerd, but specifically the Haru!merman AU gets me Mm the thing that concerns me about the future is, as much as I want MakoHaru confirmed canon, if they do make a canon ship (or much worse- put them with people offscreen) then that could cause the fandom to basically implode, I mean the last three episodes already had Tumblr causing a near apocolypse.... I can't even remember there being a Supernatural episode that caused that much uproar.... but still, the thing is if they go too far into the future it'd be almost obligatory to introduce a relationship for ONE of the boys, at the very least, so either they go a short way into the future and the plot is slimmer, or we go a longer way and risk the inevitable... personally, I'm a bit frightened o.o Oh I hear you, they could all take a vacation in Antarctica to fight aliens and I'd watch it in a heart beat xD ....Although that actually does sound like a cool plot.....

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-15 05:27:06 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I think I'm still up to date with whatever's been aired? I'm really not sure(school's been killer these past few months; - ; ). Actually, I kinda started Teen Wolf because I just wanted to know what happened to Stiles LOL. I saw all these dark!Stiles posts on my feed and got really curious so I marathoned the whole thing, and just fell... Stiles man... I would watch the show just for him ahahah(which I did tbh......)

My sleep schedule is really messed up too so I know what you mean! You kinda lose track of what you're saying after a certain point and just kinda lose your mind to mouth(or keyboard in this case) filter ahaha. Believe me, I know, I can't really sleep before 4am and sometimes further beyond that;;

I LOVE AUS!! Just toss characters into new environments and see how they fare hehe. I love it. I honestly try to stay away from lots of the fandom outbursts but a lot of my friends are very vocal about their opinions ahaha, so it's a little difficult. BUT YEAH, the last 3 episodes were just a wild ride. Can't say I didn't enjoy it though. I have no idea what goes on in the Supernatural fandom(the last thing I remember people flipping out about were the angels falling lmao SORRY IF I SPOILED ANYTHING). AAA I hope they don't actually introduce a relationship...... It'd be so nice if makoharu were canon(they might as well be with how they are now!) but KyoAni won't do that because they'd just lose out on chances to sell more shippy merchandise y'know? I don't think they'd go that far into the future, probably a year or two... hopefully?;;

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-15 09:51:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh my freind actually did that same thing, she watched the entire series for Dylan O'Brein and is now neck deep like I am Mmf I know, Stiles man... there's just not too much you can say about that little slice of sarcastic perfection

I can SLEEP before four, my problem always seems to be that one minute I'm writing and it's, say, one A.M., and I turn around and it's 4 A.M., and so I start getting my internet windows closed and stuff and then another two hours go by =_= I .. I have got to find a way to make this thing go back a few hours o_o

YES YES I love it!! Mm I know how you feel, I try but it isn't easy on Tumblr sadly Oh no you're fine, that was like two seasons ago, no worries :3 Yeah same here, I hope you're right and I hope they only go like two years into the future at most, but on the other hand don't you think they'd want to show Haru and Rin at a point so significant in their careers that they're essentially having a rematch? That's where I get stuck on the timeline of this entire thing....

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-16 07:11:10 +0000 UTC]

Now that I think about it, I can't believe I watched a whole series just for that one character... Worth it.

Oh man, I understand this too well. Sometimes I wish there were more hours in a day just so I could get everything I want done! Especially the past couple weeks because all these ship events(makoharufest, mhr week, rarepairs week...) were all coinciding with each other and then there's school trying to throttle me lol. There's still so much I want to do for makoharurin week, but it's already over ; - ;

Unfortunately  Ah, so you're actually up to date with spn? hhhhh there's so much for me to catch up on!!//lies down

Actually, I don't think it's too farfetched to say that in 2 years, they could already be in the olympics. If they're following the years as they are now and the boys were 17/18 last year, then Haru and Rin could make it to the 2016 Olympics. Their first Olympic match would be pretty significant, wouldn't it?

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-17 08:41:44 +0000 UTC]

You know, I started Free! just because of the ending titles in season one? I saw them and was so curious I had to try it, and I started Bleach- my favorite fandom- just because of the main heroine's VOICE, I was channel surfing one night, the first twelve episodes dubbed were airing in a marathon, I heard her voice and was just like "Woah I have to find out who this chick is", I lost interest because I really didn't hear anything about when the normal timeslot was, caught it by accident again about a month later and saw Rukia in jail, and started watching again because "WHO LET THIS HAPPEN? I NEED HER OUT OF THERE ASAP" so I actually got involved in a nearly ten-year-long-so-far fandom over one charector and her amazing voice, so I'm there with ya' Are you still in the fandom or..?

Yes, yes exactly, I'm doing much more original work now than I used to and balancing with my fanfictions is just a nightmare because I'm always doing one over another, and it hit at the worst time too because I'm signed up for the Sterek Big Bang, the Teen Wolf Reverse Bang, and two entries for Teen Wolf's Bitetime Fest, and have barely worked on them (well the Reverse Bang hasn't closed sign ups yet so I'm actually ok there) Bitetime HOPEFULLY won't take me that long because the minimum is only 5K for each fic and I can do that pretty easily, and if I want to write more (and I likely will) I'll find a way, the Big Bang is my biggest worry because it's 20K+ and I'm slower than a turtle on it because I haven't had time ;_; Why Teen Wolf? Why must you usurp my time?! ;_; You can always do what I do when I don't have time/energy/the right stuff for an activity, save the prompts and do them later :3 If you knew how many prompts I've collected over the years to "do later" in one fashion or another... it's well over two thousand atleast I'm sure...

I am up to date yes, there's some crazy stuff going on o_o Don't worry about it, sometimes it's better to binge watch, especially since the CW is going through a phase right now where they're taking two-three week hiatuses every couple of weeks from every show they have... so for example, I watch The Originals, just came off hiatus the week before last, going back on hiatus starting next week until April 6th.... I mean... this isn't just one show they're doing it to, they're doing it to ALL OF THEM and it just... *headdesk* Times like these I wish I could just binge watch it.....

Mm that's true, but I thought they'd need more training than that, don't you have to have a certain number of years of training to be in the Olympics?

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-18 08:47:26 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure a lot of people are in the same boat ahaha! A lot of the newer anime I've watched were all because I got curious when I saw them on my dash. I was actually going to boycott Free!, because I just wasn't really gung-ho into anime anymore at the time(I would watch from time to time, but just not very often), but then shingeki happened and then Free! happened, and I fell so hard so fast. Oh man. I was just going to watch one episode and see what everyone was screaming about and Free! totally came out of left field and hit me in the guts lol. It's honestly the first show that made me really ship anything, or draw so much fanart for(I never even had a bl ship until makoharu happened!). I think I watched Bleach until after they saved Rukia and then kinda just dropped it because it stopped airing on tv;; If you're talking about Teen Wolf, then I was never really... in... the fandom? I just kinda watch the show and enjoy it in my own bubble LOL.

20k+ words omg. 5k is already a decent size but 20k WOW. Good luck!! I really admire all you fic writers... how do you juggle so many ideas and actually write them down in comprehensible paragraphs for people to read?;; All my ideas are just stuck with me with nowhere to go orz I do that actually, but it doesn't matter whether I save the prompts or not because I never get to them... 

There're always crazy stuff happening in spn though I've always been up to date with the show but I'm kinda losing steam trying to keep up with this season, so I've been falling behind. That's really strange though... what's the CW trying to do? Aren't they gonna lose viewers that way? Geez.

I think their training starts as soon as they get into Uni? I don't think they'd stop athletes from taking part in the Olympics because they didn't clock in enough training time. If they're good enough to get through qualifiers, they should be able to compete in the Olympics. But either way, I think 2 years of training is more than enough time for them to qualify!

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-19 10:22:35 +0000 UTC]

Oh I know what you mean! I almost got into Attack On Titan when it first came out but then people started talking about all the tears... and I decided nooooo.... swimming boys who express their feelings are already making me an emotional wreck, I don't need death to add to that... Mm it took a hiatus after that but then it came back on TV :3 It's not on currently though because they haven't animated the latest arc so irk for that >> Own bubble works, I was in my own bubble with it for the first two or three years and didn't get into the fandom part of it until right after 3A aired I think, maybe right before 3B... somewhere in that vein

Thank you muchly Well the secret is.... we don't... I mean seriously if you knew how many lists of ideas and prompts and dates and organizing tools I had to keep I think you would faint and I nearly lose my mind on a daily basis... I hear you, I have so many prompts it's scarey and they just stay there untouched... ;_;

That's very true, SPN is getting crazier and crazier but somehow it's still really good, so applause for whoever managed to do that! I know, it's really weird... but I heard something about the CW having a change in management next year or something and so they're renewing like almost all of their shows so that nothing gets pulled by the new people so maybe it has to do with that? I have no idea...

Ohhhh!! Welp in that case then I'm routing for two years

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-22 04:47:55 +0000 UTC]

I guess you're saving yourself a load of heartache if you don't get into AoT. Yep. Smart move LOL. Ah, I doubt I'd ever get into Bleach, there's just too many episodes for me to dedicate time to;; Maybe if I didn't stop watching... Yeah, being in my own bubble has been great ahaha, it's fun minus the fandom outbursts

Oh gosh, I understand. I have apps to jot down all my ideas and little snippets of stories I will probably never finish, ahaha. I wish I could write though... starting is one of the hardest things to do, right next to finishing. Not being able to finish an idea is a big reason I don't want to step into writing fanfic because I'm afraid I'd start leaving people hanging. It's a pretty horrible feeling when you're into reading something only for the author to drop it;;

OOOH, it's getting crazier??? GOOD GOOD. I'm looking forward to catching up to it then Ehhh, I hope they resolve it soon. Putting shows on hiatus so often could really hurt the ratings... 

I guess we'll know today!! The event is happening as I type this, so fingers crossed we get some really good news; v ;

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-22 09:01:20 +0000 UTC]

I really, really am yes Oh I understand, I never would have attempted Bleach if I didn't get in it in the beginning, fandom can be marvelous.. or it can suck, or both, and the Teen Wolf fandom is mostly both, I was in my own bubble for quite some time and then someone I watch here on DA got into it and I was faving their stuff, next thing I know I'm shipping Sterek like Fedex and lurking in the Tumblr tag o_o

Starting for me is either the hardest or the easiest, and if it's easy, then I'll most likely have a harder time finishing it, I force myself to though, somehow Oh goodness that's the WORST, the absolute WORST.... the first time that happened to me it was a Bleach/Harry Potter crossover (of all things..) that was 16+ chapters, AMAZINGLY good, spent all day and night reading it, got to the CLIFF HANGER ENDING and scroll up to see when it was last updated.... two years previous... I spent a year checking that thing every month and nope, never updated, now I make a point to only read complete fics unless I know the author well enough to know that they don't drop fics

It is yes, very very crazy Yeah so do I.. it's starting to get really, really crazy and I'm starting to forget where I left off on some shows, I can't even remember the last episode I watched of Arrow or The Flash because I had trouble catching it @_@ But even stuff I watch religiously like The Vampire Diaries and Reign I'm starting to have moments of questioning because they take these random breaks for weeks at a time =_=

Ohh yes I had forgotten that was today!! I'll have to look at it when it isn't late late late at night though sadly But I better put on my to-do list to go through the Free! tag tommorrow O_O

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-23 03:34:24 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I have the urge to persuade you into watching the show now... n-nah. I won't be cruel............ LOL oh wow what a way to fall. I know how it is, when you see amazing art or read really good fics and then all of a sudden you're shipping things you never thought you would ahaha. I'm pretty easy to take down tbh.

IT'S HORRIBLE. It's happened to me on more than one occasion and I never learn. I... never... learn...... I could cry just thinking about it. We're just stuck thinking up headcanons for a fanfic that will never have closure. It's self-inflicted punishment//lies down

All the CW shows I had actually planned on watching as they aired but learned the hard way that I would never have time for;; Hopefully they'll get back on track because poor ratings could really threaten show renewalsD:<

I don't know if you heard, but we really are getting a High Speed! movie adaptation!! It's gonna be showing them in middle school, so it's probably going to follow HS!2 closely. Hopefully. They said Rei's gonna be in it too, but I really don't know how they're going to do that since he's an anime original.

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-23 06:41:19 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh trust me, I have freinds who have been persistant and still I refuse I KNOW BETTER ABOUT THIS ONE O_O Ohhh yeah, been there, even worse because I'll be talking to my freind and then boom, random really weird ship

Oh I hear you, that Bleach/Harry Potter fic.. I probbably spent a year coming up with headcanons for it... Although the far worse thing is when you invest time in a fic that starts great and ends horribly, now THAT happens to me very consistantly =_= The last time I was up until seven in the morning reading it and got to the ending and was like "WHAT? NO!" Ofcourse that one was sort of a slow decline, wich I think I hate more than the abrupt "And then bad ending" fics, because you invest in this fic that starts great and you love it so much that you WANT it to stay good.. and you just get to the end and nope... that happened with one I was following for a couple of years, the beginning was like seventeen kinds of great, the middle was even BETTER, and then it started getting close to the end, like the last seven chapters or so, and slowly it started getting worse and worse and worse... and then the end just left me making a really bad face at my computer... I DID NOT INVEST YEARS IN FOLLOWING THAT THING FOR IT TO END THAT WAY

I really hope so, I hope they get snapped back in their groove soon ;_; The thing is that, as I read somewhere, the CW considers ratings a bit differently than most networks do, I don't remember why but apparently it's easier for shows to get renewed there than it is on, say, ABC, let's hope it stays that way...

Yes I have heard I have to admit I'm a little sad that it takes place in middle school because Rei won't be part of our main gang, even if he is in it, and there will clearly be much much angst ;_; But I'm very happy to see it getting a movie AND a manga adaptation too!!

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-24 06:07:53 +0000 UTC]

Are you suuuuure you don't want to give it a try? Haha, nah, I'm not even really into it anymore since the anime ended. The manga has been dragging so much lately it's getting really difficult to read:\

That's terrible omf. I don't think it's happened to me before, but I haven't been reading fics for very long so-*knock on wood* Or maybe it has happened and my subconscious has chosen to completely wipe it from memory I can't imagine investing years in a story only for it to end like thatD: You must have been so upset. Reading fic is a dangerous business huh... I need to tread carefully.

I would hope so... even if I do think that Supernatural should have ended seasons ago ehe. I'm kinda scared for it to end because it's been part of my life for so long, but kinda also hoping that it would end soon;;

I really wonder what they're gonna do about Rei that won't affect the S1 canon, I hope they can pull it off! Still, I can't wait for my heart to be trampled on. All the unstable depressed middle school swimmer boys angst ooooh boy. I just really want to see the Makoto beach scene animated and if they're going to do a flashback further, the Haru river scene and the Rin being scared for Makoto scene and the makoharu stairs scene and also Makkou... and baby Nagisa......... I'm actually really excited LOL. I'm a little wary about the manga though, since it's being illustrated by a different artist. I really really hope they stick to the canon and don't veer off even a bit! They've said there's still a lot in store, like there are a couple more events happening later this year that I'm sure will lead up to more things being released in the summer of 2016, which coincidentally happens to be the summer of the Rio Olympics(¬‿¬) So yup, here's to another year of being in swimming hell!

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-24 08:02:03 +0000 UTC]

Oh really? I heard the anime was coming back this summer though o.o

Oh yeah it was really dissappointing, it wasn't a TERRIBLE ending, but it really wasn't good... the big kicker is I had been sort of conflicted about starting it because I didn't like the first two or three chapters but a good freind had reccomended it so I got past it and by around chapter six I was HOOKED, and there were a few really great chapters like that, but then just.... not anymore... and that's really the worst too, it's one thing when a fic just is abruptly bad, but when there's that slow decline and you can't really say "I hated that ending" but it was extremely dissappointing... that's the worst... I was reading one really late at night, had spent hours on it, the first three chapters were one of the best things I'd ever read, and then it gets to the last two and it's just... no... so much changed all of a sudden with the charectors that I just... irk... yeah be cautious, like I said, the best idea is to always go for completed fics so atleast if there's heart ache it isn't heart ache that you were WAITING for

I never want it to end You could say I get easily attached to things but I'm pretty sure I'll be completely ok if Dean and Sam are still in the family buisness at age eighty and Cas is in the corner, having not aged and watching just like "Why are you two acting so strangely the last couple of decades? I'm getting concerned..." Because it wouldn't surprise me at all if Misha Collins is actually some sort of divine creature and doesn't age

I have a feeling they're going to do something tiny, like give him his own bit of backstory and tie him to someone random in the swim class who doesn't actually get involved with Haru and the others, ohhhh yes, I've read about the beach scene and the river scene and the Rin scene and I want them ALL O.O What's the stairs scene? Oh I hope so too *fingers crossed* Yes! I noticed they said that and I'm reaaaaaaaaaally hoping they end up doing like a movie series or another manga series or SOMETHING, maybe a... a... MUSICAL O.O It'll never happen but man what I'd give to get a Haru/Rin leaving for Australia and singing "Defying Gravity" scene, "Haru come with me! Dreams the way we planned 'em, if we work in tandem-" "Rin we're twelve" "KISS ME GOODBYYEEEEEEE WE'RE DEFYING GRAVITYYYYYY" clearly I'm too tired to be awake right now but meh I actually would love a Free! musical, the Bleach musicals were gold upon gold, a movie series would be cool too though and that seems REALLY common in anime, in fact most of the anime I've seen that had one movie ended up having atleast four... ohhh that IS funny, I'd actually watch the Olympics if the swim team came out cosplaying I'm just saying maybe that's why they're doing the pre-Free! movie now, so that in 2016 they can release an Olympic based movie around the time of the Olympics? Ah yes, and to think, I ONLY STARTED WATCHING IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW WHY THEY WERE DANCING *dies*

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-25 07:54:48 +0000 UTC]

I don't know? I haven't been keeping up with it, but I don't think it'd be that soon.__.

I-I'll be cautious, I would hate for that to happen to me;; I mean, I've read some really terrible fics with great premises and I kinda just try my hardest to turn a blind eye to the things that turn me off so I could know what actually happens ahaha. Strengthening my mind!! I keep telling myself that every time I see an incomplete fic, like, don't even touch it. Just don't do it. But nope, I have no self-control; - ; At least there are some really good fics out there that make it impossible for me to sleep at all because it's so good that I don't wanna put it down.

There are soooo many ways Supernatural can end, I just wonder how they'd go about it. Would they kill off Sam and Dean for good? And they end up in their own personal heaven, together with the loved ones they've lost? Or will they have an open end, like the last scene is of the Impala driving down an empty highway with some oldies rock song playing in the background? Or maybe they do grow old, and Cas is there watching them as they actually get their apple pie life and he would smile a bittersweet smile because he knows this will end soon? Y'know what, I'm getting kinda emotional just thinking about it, I'm gonna stop lmao.

I'm gonna be sad if he doesn't appear a lot... but then again, I don't know how they're gonna go about Rin as well, since he was in Australia for the whole of HS2. They might just show how he was coping in Aussieland and that's just gonna add on to the angst... woo! Oh the scene where Makoto admitted to Haru that he was afraid of water, and then Makoto said something really cheesy and Haru smiled at him. That stairs scene. AHAHAHAH OMFG, YOU OBVIOUSLY WERE SLEEP DEPRIVED OMG. THAT IS GOLD. A free! musical could definitely work though, because of Style 5. I mean half the VAs are already singers anyway! They actually did a concert at the event so it really isn't reaching too far to want a musical LOL. I really, REALLY hope so. There's so much that they can do with how the boys are dealing with the future;; I WASN'T EVEN GONNA WATCH IT HOW DID THIS HAPPEN//lies down

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-26 05:14:48 +0000 UTC]

Aww too bad D:

Ohh yes I've been there for sure, I remember there was this one Inuyasha fanfic that I REALLY thought was going to end badly when I got to the last chapter, it was like 27 chapters or something and I thought "Oh no I wasted all day and night on this and it'll end badly..." and then it actually ended kind of perfectly, it was a really, really good fic too! I've found since getting into the Sterek fandom that it has some of the BEST fanfictions on the face of the EARTH... and also some of the most heart breaking and worst o_o But by far also the longest so there's that too

Personally, I really think it'll be an open ending, the "Impala drives away as 'Carry On My Wayward Son' plays" is just such a massive staple of the show, I can just see it now, Sam and Dean defeating the biggest of all big bads, getting in the car, song starts and "Woman in Wisconsin had her eyes burned out and her heart eaten... sounds like our kinda job..." and there they go.... that would kind of be the perfect ending but I don't foresee it for a LONG time since it just got renewed for season eleven

I think that's how they're going to get Rin in there yeah, more than likely some random Australia scenes, that really will be angsty ;_; Ohhhhhhh that... that is going to break hearts ;_; It COULD work yeah, especially since anime musicals are a big thing in Japan, I mean if Bleach and Death Note had a musical... xD Atleast I'm pretty sure Death Note did, I know Bleach did, I saw some clips of it... it would be AMAZING, all the shippy songs they could have oh good lord.... so much shipping.... o_o Yeah, I do too, on the one hand I'm a little bit cautious about things like that because I get really attached to certain headcanons, but on the other hand I'm just way too invested to let go I know exactly how you feel O_O I NEVER INTENDED FOR THIS TO HAPPEN I ONLY WATCHED IT FOR THE DANCING

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-28 04:40:30 +0000 UTC]

I guess it's a good thing I'm not really into it anymore ehe

I think I'm actually reading one fic right now that's looking like it's gonna make a turn for the worse and I don't know whether to continue it or not;; (I will because I've already stuck with it this far  OTL) I realize how tiny the free! fandom is in comparison to Supernatural or Teen Wolf... the amount of fics... I don't know how you guys keep up with it LOL. I'm just glad makoharu is my top ship because they have so many fics too, and so many of them are really good!

Well, if they leave it open ended, it'd be good because they can just pick up after that if they decide to bring the series back!! I would cry omg, Carry On My Wayward Son playing at any part in spn already gets me emotional, what more at the end of the series; - ; I know they got renewed but there's only so much they can do before it gets too redundant! I won't mind either way, I kinda want more monster of the week coming back though haha

Oh my gosssshhh, I don't know if I'll make it. They're just little babies in high speed!! Why put them through this kind of pain Q A Q I had no idea anime musicals were a thing omg, much less a BIG thing in Japan! I think everyone is a little cautiously optimistic but as long as we're getting more, I guess! I can't believe you actually got into free for the dancing and not the muscles ahaha

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-28 07:52:25 +0000 UTC]

Possibly yes

Ohhh eek that's terrible D: Atleast you've having a little bit of warning though, I have yet to be so lucky Oh it never surprises me how small a fandom is next to Teen Wolf and Supernatural Oh I'm right with you there, I'm so glad I'm a MakoHaru fan instead of a rare pair fan because I'd never find fics of them ;_;

Agreed, and you never know, they might come back for  a Supernatural MOVIE or something Ohhh I know, that song... I had to get that song on CD I love it so much though Aaaaaall because of Supernatural... Yeah I LOVED monsters of the week....

I know exactly what you mean... this is going to be torture.... ;_; Oh yeah, I've heard of more anime musicals than you'd like to know o_o Apparently it happens pretty frequently, who knew? Well as long as we're getting more swimming babies I'm all for it Ah well you have to understand that I'm a very out-of-the-loop person so I had heard very little of Free!, besides that people were looking forward to it, but I figured it was just another sports anime and I don't like sport animes, so I come onto my dash one day and there's this EXPLOSION of Free! and like 80% of it was the dancing So I'm sitting there like "Ok WHY are they dancing this much in a swimming anime!?" and then Rei's little dance was so cute I couldn't resist so I watched episode one and was pretty meh but kept coming back because it was cute enough to spend 20 minutes a week on and then the beach episode happened and I was HOOKED for GOOD, but long story short most of what I actually SAW of Free! before watching it actually was not very muscley, it was mostly the dancing

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-03-30 00:49:56 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I guess it's good I have at least a little warning;; I was just curious to see how many fics there were in in those fandoms because I felt that Free! had a pretty decent amount of fics, and boy was I surprised. Free! has nothing on the amount of fics spn or tw has omg. The thing is... I also really like a couple of rare pairs(souai......) so... I can still feel the thirst LOL I mean, I actually really enjoy soumako and makorin, and considering they're not really even rare pairs, I still feel so deprived ahaha It's just easier to sate a craving when you really just love all the character though. I don't know why some people are so hateful towards certain ships and characters. They're all darlings;;

A MOVIE WOULD BE SO GREAT OMF. And if they had a really big budget, just imagine the things they could do!! Sometimes I wish they had a bigger budget to do more on the show. All the CG they could incorporate... the show would improve tenfold.

Yas!! As long as there are more swimming babies, I will be content^^ When will be free... Omg what a way to get into it. The dancing was like 10 seconds long and THAT was what got you?... Actually, I can understand that LOL. OH THE INFAMOUS EPISODE 6, THE HOOK LINE AND SINKER. That episode is gold, the episode that cemented mh for me;; 

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-03-30 08:18:09 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh yeah, I only started reading Sterek fics a little over a year ago and until then I really had sort of exclusively read IchiRuki because nothing else ever interested me enough, ever since I've been so .. captured... by the glory that is Sterek writers that the only IchiRuki fics I have now are when my favorite authors update ;_; Not only does the variety lack, but the amount of IC fics too... I mean... I found Sterek and was just blown away, the variety, the ICness, the magnificent talent of the writers, the variety...... ohhh ouch that does hurt! I've never even seen SouAi.... reminds me of looking for good Gelphie fics from Wicked, the fandom seems so big I thought that would be a sinch but no, no it REALLY isn't, I haven't found a single one that I really like yet and AO3 only has like... thirty of them or something to begin with... *sobbing* I know exactly how you feel my freind.... ;_____; I know, that's the thing! Like in some fandoms I can sort of understand it because some fandoms really do have horrible (although well written) charectors, but Free! ...? I mean I've always thought of Free! as like a fan's safe haven, because everyone is a precious little turtle who can be shipped with everyone else and the fandom only wants their happiness... or so I thought.... I mean, I do admit, I really don't like Sosuke, and that's possibly in part due to having not read High Speed!, but I just really don't care for him from how he acted in ES I sorries ;_; But that being said.. I don't see how anyone would be able to hate anyone from Free!, or any pairing, or just... anything... but my experience in fandom has always been that people will inevitably find a way to hate SOMETHING if they're determined enough, and sadly, many people are determined... like tonight, season finale' of The Walking Dead, I think to myself "Wow no one important died that's like a record for this show the fandom has GOT to be happy about this!" I walk into the TWD tag and see posts on how horrible the finale' was and just.... guys... we FINALLY have a season finale' where nothing terrible happened.... this should be a massive celebration.... just... *headdesk*

Yessss yeeeeeeeesssssss I would love a big budget movie

Ohhh agreed yes I know, it's hilarious and that's why I was confused, I thought it HAD to be important if it was on my dash more than the actual swimming But like every other post is these lil guys dancing and being dorks and I just had to see why that was so important Ah yes, that was the episode I legitimately believed Free! would soon be revealed to not be a sports anime, but in fact a horror or fantasy anime with Haru being a merman and Rei possibly dieing, I remember the prayer circles, I remember them well, and to be honest, I never did really forgive Free! for not coming through on that merman!Haru thing... that would have been a plot twist to end all plot twists, "Surprise! We're kind of still a sports anime but also MERMAIDS "

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-04-03 03:33:44 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I never even read fanfic until I stumbled upon one makoharu fic on my dash, and I was only just going to skim through it but ended up reading all 14k words of it. It was so good, and also so horribly sad ; - ; I kinda wish I was more into those big fandoms if only for the fanmade material because it sounds amazing to be part of something so big! I know the pain;; Good rare pair fics are so hard to come by... in fact good not-so-rare-pair fics are hard to come by too(looks at the soumakos>>). Oh no, I understand that not everyone likes that giant doof! He was pretty antagonistic towards Haru that of course it'd rubbed people the wrong way. It's kinda like how people didn't like Rin in the first season either! I guess I'm just a little more forgiving because these guys are just teenagers going through a really rough patch in their life. Sousuke had a lot more reason to be so angry with the world than Rin because he literally could not follow his dream due to his own body failing on him. It's like, you're working so hard for something, and its your own body of all things that turns against you? And then there's Haru, who has the talent and is perfectly capable of taking that talent to next level, but he's not doing anything about it!! He absolutely went about it the wrong way, but I guess I kinda understand why he acted the way he did. ANYWAY, I ain't preaching! Just spewing more thoughts eheh

I was really flabbergasted the first time I saw ship and character hate. I didn't even realize how terrible some people could be towards others regarding ships and stuff since I was so new to fandom things. I could have easily been an rinharu but I was exposed to the makoharu part of fandom first, and I saw so much hate from rhs towards makoto and makoharu in general that it really ruined the whole thing for me. Which is really unfortunate, because they are such an aesthetically pleasing ship to draw. UAAA SPOILERS. I haven't caught up with TWD either Q A Q B-but that's good that no one died... thank goodness...

Wait, if you were hooked in by the dancing, then did you notice the guys in masks and leather outfits dancing in the background??? Because that confused the heck out of everyone LOL Where are they even dancing!?? Was it a gay club?? It was hilarious ahaha OOH, I remember that. All the fanwork that depicted Rei dying and stuff, what a wild time. Don't give up!! We may have more ovas... more ovas that hopefully expand on the ED themes!!! That would so cool...

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-04-03 06:20:05 +0000 UTC]

Oh I started fic a loooooooooooooooooooong time ago, I think I was ten.... It all started with Inuyasha fics here on DA... there was no turning back.. oh I know what you mean! I wish many times that I was in something like Attack On Titan or The Maze Runner because of all the great fanworks Yeah, even worse are rare themes, I get addicted to a theme from ONE fic (or worse just a prompt) and then find out oh look it was the only one in the fandom... that is just.... the absolute worst let me tell you... Ahhh yeah, I mean I understand Souske in a way and he's definately adorable with Rin but he just came off really strongly and never really did anything to fix that, like with Rin- and trust me I don't excuse his actions in season one, I didn't like him in season one- he apologized atleast, you know? But I'm weird about charectors like that, like I forgive Aizen more easily than Gin because even if Gin was a "good guy" he still emotionally tortured people for no reason, atleast Aizen did it because he's evil, or Teen Wolf, I have a really hard time getting behind Jackson in any way, like I'm almost more tempted to forgive Peter before I forgive Jackson-  although Peter is still top notch on the creep factor- because again, atleast Peter has an EXCUSE, and yes he murdered people but he wasn't RUDE about it most of the time you know? Jackson was just being a jerk because he could and that rubs me the wrong way... but I'm just rambling now

I, sadly, was introduced to it really early on in fandom life, I don't even remember when, so I'm sadly used to it, what I was flabberghasted by was the idea that anyone could actually not love Makoto, I mean he's literally a gigantic, muscular teddy bear... it'd be like someone saying they hate puppies... although I HAVE heard that so you know, some people just want to watch the world burn.... aww that's too bad D: I've always multishipped MakoHaru and RinHaru, although I've always preferred MakoHaru, I ship RinHaru now more than I ever did though after the Australian episode, but MakoHaru is still top dog for me, ohhh eek I'm sorry!! D: Yeah no one from the group died in the finale' and yet people somehow still found ways to complain =_=

YES as a matter of fact that's one of the things that made me want to watch it!!! I was like "Wait is this really in the anime?" I know, I spent an entire week in full confidence that Haru would emerge as a merman and when I was disproven I could not have been sadder, ohhh I hope you're right!! That would be amazing if they expanded on Future Fish!!

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-04-07 05:12:29 +0000 UTC]

TEN!? WHOA. You must have been exposed... to a lot of things... at a young age then....... LOL Oh yeah, those themes that you just want more of. I understand! But you're a writer right? eheh, I guess that's what makes you write the things that you want to read haha. I really want to write the ideas I have because nobody's writing them but how to start orz

I know people who still don't like Sousuke, but I can never find it in my heart to hate any of the free! boys haha! He really did come off very strongly, so I get it! But oh man, the ova made his character so much more endearing(what nerd gets lost on their own school campus seriously??? Okay... it's happened to me but that's beside the point!) and the Iwatobi boys seem to like having him as company^^ I don't remember enough about Bleach to understand those references but about Peter and Jackson, AHAHA WELL, Peter is really creepy, but I never disliked either of the characters either. Since they were playing their roles in the story well. I just realized that it really does take a lot to make me hate a character...

Okay, the Makoto hate was what had me floored honestly. It was the MAIN reason I steered clear of rh because I've actually seen people comment that they wished he died in ep 6, just to get him out of the way. And I was like WHAT. And then there was just a ton of people that went onto Makoto/makoharu posts and started dissing his character ON the original post, I was just- I had no clue people could be so malicious in fandom. I don't even go into the tags and the hate found it's way onto my dash, that's how bad it got! I'm still really um, irritated(?) that I was exposed to it so early on in my fandom experience, because I really wanted to enjoy all the rh fanart and fics, but I just can't now OTL Now I only enjoy it in the context of marinka or the OT4. It's okay about TWD! I'm really just glad nobody died;; There's always something to complain about I guess, the best thing to do is to close a blind eye if you enjoyed it! Had to learn the hard way not to let fandom destroy the experience for you q v qb

That's what fanfiction is for!! So many merman Haru fics out there kyoani is making a lot of revenue from free! I don't see it beyond them to make more ovas, or even a 2nd movie tbh! It really would be amazing!

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-04-07 09:16:25 +0000 UTC]

Well, yes and no I was exposed to things like fandom hate pretty early on and weird fanfiction but surprisingly the dirty stuff didn't find me until I was like fourteen.... I have no idea how I avoided it so long (didn't even know it existed) but somehow I just floated right through it, nearly ten years later though, ofcourse, I've seen just about everything there is to see, and really, once you start meddling in the AO3 archives for Teen Wolf I find it exceedingly hard to believe that there is ANYTHING in the entire WORLD  that will shock you after a couple of months, if I somehow come across something in my life that hasn't been introduced to me in the Teen Wolf fandom, I will be thoroughly shocked, mm yes in some cases that's true, but it really sucks when there's something that you yourself can't write or can't write well, for example I'm a big fan of Elphaba/Galinda from Wicked despite never seeing the musical (I've heard I think a total of five songs and seen exactly two scenes that is IT besides reading the summary online) and so given that my knowledge mostly consists of "My heart is breaking because SHE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW SHE'S ALIVE *sob*" it makes it hard for me to write Wicked fics that aren't just like 100000% AU, or fandoms that I like but that I can't write for like The Walking Dead, there's this big on-going joke about Daryl being an outdoor cat vs an indoor cat and man I wanted to read fics about that so badly but couldn't find any and I myself can't write TWD.... or the worst thing, the tropes, I'm versatile-ish, I can do several different genres, but alot of my favorite tropes I just can't write to save my life, like, my craziest one to date, I have a special place in my heart for feral!Stiles, and feral!Derek isn't bad either but Stiles just.... need..... don't even care what happened really but probbably has to do with foxes, it all started with this one AMAZING AU about fox!Stiles and the first three chapters were one of the best things I've ever read but sadly it went in a direction I didn't care for and sort of ruined it for me, and so I went looking for other feral!Stiles fics and there are pretty much none, it breaks my heart because I love that trope but I can't write it most likely, I don't even know how to go about it, I just... it would not go well... So there's a burning need in my soul for this and it's not getting filled any time soon

Oh the OVA absolutely made him more endearing, no doubt about that X3 Mm Peter is the king of creepy but I just have a harder time forgiving Jackson... it's the needlessly cruel vs "Don't mind me I'm just two bulbs short of a light but I think I have a good idea here" ya' know? Like atleast Peter thinks he's in the right, even if he isn't, atleast some screwed up part of his brain says "Yes this is the right course of action" and he's following that, Jackson just has the self control of a kumquat and doesn't have the forethought to back up his actions, Peter may be evil, but atleast every time he fails he can just go "Ah! Onto plan B!", Jackson has no plan B, he has no plan A, just... kumquat.... and I think that's the thing that gets me, I may hate evil masterminds but I atleast respect them for being masterminds, evil people who are just flying by the seat of their pants are just rude, mmm you're lucky, I develop my opinion about a charector pretty quickly and if it isn't a good opinion it takes a long time for it to change I mean I couldn't stand Rin until season two, the end of the last episode of season one made him tolerable enough that I was ok with him but it wasn't until season two that he became one of the precious babies for me

I know what you mean Atleast Makoto is such a hard charector to legitimately hate that you didn't have to deal with the death threats things, well, and he's animated so that helps, but believe it or not alot of live action charector hate is directed to the actor, I'm sad to say I've witnessed more times than I can count actors getting death threats and such for something their charector did, even just being a potential love interest, it's sickening, and if it wasn't for the fact that I write fanfics, I'd be as far away from fandom as possible, ofcourse I also write meta so... that's the thing, fandom is promoted as this magical paradise where all are loved and accepted but it's just as toxic as any other social grouping in the world, I have to be really carefull about what fandoms to step into rather than just being a "casual fan", but sadly the fandom life chose me and not the other way around =_= Like The Vampire Diaries fandom is blowing up because the main charector is leaving after this season and I'm seeing three sides to this, 1. "Let's all support her decision and act like adults and she will be missed" (like 20% of the fandom posts I've seen maybe) 2. "YES so glad she's outta here! I loved the actress but hated the charector can we PLEASE kill her sooner so __ can be the female lead now/__ ship can happen!?" 3. "Honestly though this entire thing has been nothing but terrible writing and terrible directing and nothing is good and why do I even still watch this show? This is the worst thing in the world, the charector still sucked but there's been all this build up for nothing and this entire thing just makes me hate this show more" and I just.... *headdesk* Atleast it wasn't as bad as when Crystal Reed left Teen Wolf though, I think the only reason is because Nina Dobrev told us weeks in advance that she's leaving, where as the 3B second-to-last-episode suddenly killed Allison and an hour later Crystal said it was a permanant goodbye and it was her decision, there were still a huge portion of the fandom thinking it wasn't her choice to leave and sending death threats to the writers and stuff, and now Tyler Hoechlin is going to be in a recurring role instead of a main role (again, by actor's choice) and people are once again accusing the writers (despite the fact that there's no proof his air time will even change, it just means he's less OBLIGATED to be on the show all the time, not that he actually won't be, Peter is on almost every episode and he's still in the "recurring role" status) and then the other half of the fandom is like "Yes Hoechlin yes be free my precious butterfly be free of this sewage and fly and please oh please take Dylan O'Brein with you~!" and I just.... why do people still even watch something they hate that much? Oh I know what you mean about the tainted fanworks thing, sometimes a fandom will just turn you away from everything associated....

I know, I think KyoAni may regret making Free! start in the second year of highschool since the anime can't continue past a second season... OR CAN IT??? I hope for OVAs though, lots of OVAs and lots of movies

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-04-18 00:05:57 +0000 UTC]

omg I'm sorry for the late reply!! I believe you when you say the Teen Wolf fandom has pretty much everything covered because it's one of the really large fandoms. I mean, from my little stroll through the spn/teen wolf AO3 archive I already know there are things I would never have thought of LOL I don't even read fics for those fandoms and was just curious and lemme tell ya, some things I've found... ha...haha
It's horrible when you can't find the kinda fics you want aND IT'S ALSO HORRIBLE WHEN YOU HAVE THE IDEA BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE IT OTL Such is life...

Oh yeah, I've heard some nasty news about actors getting threats for what their characters do. Fans can get really intense about what they like that they tend to project what they want onto the actors. So yeah. I know the Game of Thrones actors had to put up with a lot of the hate that their characters were garnering too because they were doing such a good job at it. I don't follow many people who are into TW but it did appear on my dash about how a lot of people were really peeved about the way Crystal Reed's character was lead out of the show. I mean, the spn fandom does this a lot too, they complain about the showrunners and the writers so much and I'm just like, "Yeah nah, I'm not paying attention to this. I'm gonna enjoy the show while ya'll be bitter about everything." Don't people get tired of being so negative all the time?? Even the people in the free! fandom tbh(especially with the news of the rh mook and the movie being placed in middle school)... like I have friends who get so annoyed with everything and I just wanna squish their cheeks and say, "LET IT BE."

Well, Rei and Nagisa are still in high school hehe. A lot of things can still happen, so I'm just looking forward to them all^^

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-04-18 09:38:49 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh yes, and let me tell you what a fun ride it can be when you have no idea what some of the tags mean and are too afraid to Google it but decide "How bad can it be?" and read it anyway, let me tell you how fun that is nightmares ensue..... mm yes that's really the worst ;_; Especially when you see tropes you don't really care about getting hundreds of fics, like you can't even blink without an A/B/O fic popping up somewhere but meanwile you're sitting here with your prompt and everyone just glides right by it ;_;

Eeeek that's terrible, yeah, Crystal's exit lead to more backlash than I've ever seen on this show, even people who didn't really care for Allison were upset because they thought she was killed for shock value at first and then even when people learned it was not only her choice to LEAVE, but her decision to be killed off  and that she specifically asked for that so that fans wouldn't get their hopes up for something that wouldn't happen... it did very, very little to calm the rage, people to this DAY, over a YEAR later, are still screaming about how the writers kill all the females and like .... ??? Three main ladies have left the show and each and every one of them ASKED to be released from their contract because Teen Wolf doesn't pay as much as other gigs they were being offered... Gage (Erica) left to shoot a pilot that sadly never came out, Adelaid Kane (Cora) now is the star of a three-season + show on theCW called Reign, and although Crystal doesn't have any big news yet I think the fact that she's 30 playing a 17 year-old is more than enough reason for her to want to leave to pursue something else, it's really upsetting that they judge the writers for killing off charectors and for being racist/misogynistic/homophobic when the actors are leaving left and right to pursue something else and the writers have to bend their story to make it work, Colton Haynes' charector was supposed to have a massive role as Peter's son and because he left early they had to scrap it and introduce a daughter instead later than they planned and people complain for her appearing out of no where, Keahu Keanui wasn't seen last season and people are raising a fire storm even though he explained that he'd be back and had to take care of some personal stuff and was also shooting a movie, but instead they want to just say these people were ditched, it's really terrible, and the thing is that like I said, writers usually have story arcs planned long in advance so when someone leaves suddenly it's very hard to turn those stories around, in Crystal's case she DID give notice early enough for the show to be leading up to her death but because the script was likely already in the process of being written (as she happened to leave during a six month hiatus instead of a year long hiatus) the writers probbably had a really hard time figuring out how to move around her and THAT'S why she didn't appear to have a storyline, because the writers had to change it and only had a matter of weeks to do so *headdesk* I know EXACTLY what you mean, I'm one of the few positive voices in a negative fandom and just... it's straining... even with Free!, wich I thought was overall extremely positive, I was jumped on by several people on Tumblr for wondering why the writers never even had someone mention the idea of professional mermaiding or being an artist to Haru, several people were angry that "I didn't see all his charector development", like... I never said they should have changed the ending... Haru went through a very hard time struggling to figure out a career, but no one ever even MENTIONED an option besides "competitive swimming or give up swimming and go to college", I would have thought someone like Nagisa- with his hairbrained schemes- would have been able to atleast mention the art thing considering he made a big deal out of Haru being an artist, and then, as an artist, he could still swim as much as he wanted and still be earning money, and ofcourse I was told right away that I "obviously don't understand what it takes to be in a creative career because it doesn't work like that", so, as I mentioned to them, excuse me I'm a professional writer and yeah, I do actually know what it means to have a creative career, it isn't easy, but if I want to take off in the middle of the day to swim for three hours I can do that and catch up with my work later, there isn't a weight strapped to me like classes or work hours preventing me from doing that... I just... how do people live in a world of negativity? I don't get it at all @_@

You know, I'm going to be horrible for this but... wouldn't it be an interesting movie plot if Rei and Nagisa's swim team made it to nationals and maybe even placed or something and Haru and Makoto are watching, wondering why it couldn't have been them? Makoto obviously isn't swimming professionally so he more or less gave it up and just because Haru now WANTS to swim professionally doesn't mean he CAN, what if he had another break down of some kind or simply hasn't qualified yet to go the next level up in whatever tournament he's pursuing and he and Makoto see this new team- created by Rei and Nagisa- going further than they did and it forces them to reflect on their own choices and wonder what they could have done to be in their place...? I'm a terrible, terrible person who shouldn't be allowed to have ideas, I know, but .... the development... the angst.... the slow choking death of all fans.... now THAT would be a movie....

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-04-21 23:42:15 +0000 UTC]

AHAHA that reminds me of how I found out about a/b/o fics omf. I mean, it should be pretty prevalent in the tw fandom because... teen... wolves y'know?? But I think I honestly actually found out about it because it kept popping up in the free! archives and I was so confused because the premise of the fic seemed really good but I had no idea what the heck a/b/o even was??? I was in for a surprise lmao.

Wow, you'd think they'd pay the actors more seeing as how the show has such a huge following. I guess that's what they get for not trying to keep their actors from leaving; backlash. But the poor writers, it's really difficult to have so much already planned out only for the actors to throw a wrench in it. I never knew so much happened behind the scenes because I really only watch the show and that's about as far as I get involved haha.

People actually jumped on you!??! Holy cow, that's horrible. I actually really agree with you about how they should've mentioned other options for Haru, but I guess kyoani didn't want to detract from what they already planned for Haru. It would just give people more reason to think that Haru being a pro swimmer was just a choice that was forced onto him and would make the narrative a little more difficult to accept... but yeah, it would have been nice if other choices were mentioned! Some people are just so aggressive about these things, it's crazy and frankly quite tiring to even bother with it all. It gets a little annoying when some people tag stuff on my drawings and I can see their mild disappointment or disagreement or whatever, and I'm just here sitting and thinking, then why reblog it?? do you not love yourself???

NOOOOOOO. DON'T. OH NO. NO, Makoto and Haru would be extremely proud of their kouhai and maybe they're a little wistful that they couldn't make when they were there but iT'S OKAY BECAUSE HARU IS TRYING HIS BEST TO SWIM PROFESSIONALLY. And his kouhai winning nationals will motivate him!! Makoto would be a little more sad because he actually did want to continue swimming professionally but he's okay! ; A ; He will strive to coach children who want to be the future of their country's swim team and his kouhai winning nationals also motivates him! omg please dont... the angst will kill... you're horrible Q A Q but yes

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-04-22 08:33:48 +0000 UTC]

I think it took no less than six months for me to figure out what A/B/O was an I even Googled it eventually, fun fact, somehow it actually started in the Supernatural fandom (the fandom that I swear to God breeds EVERYTHING holy kumquats this fandom literally has every single thing...) and somehow it became it's own genre, I don't even know how, I mean I get it more or less when actual werewolves are involved, AU or not, but when it's just a societal thing I'm more like "Yeah ok but this could have been improved so much by some werewolves" so I have my ups and downs with it, there are those fics that actually do shockingly well and then there are the ones that make me cringe and everything in between, sad to say I haven't actually found any yet that I'd put in my (rather extensive) favorites... ah well, there are millions out there, one is bound to come along The funny thing is I actually learned about it from the Free! fandom too, I didn't start reading Teen Wolf fics until around a year and a half ago and I was reading Free! fis before that so.... irony

It isn't that they really have a choice though, MTV has terrible, terrible funding and Teen Wolf's giant following is literally the ONLY reason it can stay on air because it depends almost entirely on the California film tax to grant it money every season, if the state feels like the show isn't generating enough to warrant a big tax one season, bye bye Teen Wolf, the last two seasons have greatly improved because of the tax (and the tax getting higher for them) but before that they had to live on sponsors like Toyota and the show was basically working with toothpicks from what I understand, I hear alot from people who have actually gone in depth with how much financing it had/has now about how stunningly well they've pulled the show off because they have so little to work with and I imagine that's why the actors aren't paid as well, plus you're going up against shows that are on networks like ABC who pay better than any cable show as a rule (except maybe something like The Walking Dead but that's extremely rare to find such a gem) plus network channels have more exposure even if the scenes are smaller, so all around it's better career wise, usually, to do network shows as sad as it is, and Teen Wolf is notorious for losing cast members, but actually... alot of shows these days do... Once Upon A Time has a main cast but their secondairies come and go like nothing I've ever seen, it makes sense ofcourse because the cast is so huge that an actor can't be expected to wait a year to show up again for a few scenes but it still leaves them with alot of plot holes, The Vampire Diaries loses people left and right too (and it's sister The Originals) in fact the star Nina Dobrev is leaving after this season and the show was already renewed, Daniel Sharman left Teen Wolf to do The Originals and then left The Originals to do a pilot on, I THINK, NBC, it might not be noticed as much on shows with smaller casts or shows that don't have as deeply involved plots (for example crime shows only need a relatively small "regular" cast and can still have tons of arcs and great stories with actors who are only on for two or three episodes) right now there seems to be a big shake up in the shows that have been going for a bit of time, Revenge has replaced nearly their entire main cast, Lost Girl's last season is only going to have the protagonist's "side kick" in it for a few episodes and I have no idea how much she'll actually be doing there, Colton Haynes left Teen Wolf and jumped on Arrow and now he's leaving Arrow, the thing is, I think, that Teen Wolf just started shedding their cast in season two, where as most of the shows I've mentioned are on season three or four or even up to season seven, so they may lose one prominant actor here or there and by the time they hit this point it doesn't look like alot, but it sort of just happened in one big glop on Teen Wolf between seasons two and four and since so much plot relied on the ensemble cast it made a huge dent, although really the only shows that can go on for an eternity without this problem would be anthologies like American Horror Story where the cast changes every season anyway or Orphan Black, because Tatiana Marslany does like 80% of the roles on that show so if she ever leaves there is literally zero way to recover and if anyone else ever leaves she can most likely just fill in for them and no one will notice... that woman is otherworldly.... ofcourse there's a chance that I just rambled on because I watch way too much TV and know more about this than what some would call "healthy" but eh I make up for it by the fact that I make my living writing fiction so this is basically a college course for me

Yeah I was really shocked too, the Free! fandom always seemed so.. well... free ... of drama, but then I never went in the tags much and compared to shows like Supernatural and Teen Wolf a WAR would look like it was free of drama so there's that... but yeah, I mean... people post headcanons all the time... they make suggestions about the show all the time... and I suggest someone suggesting Haru take another path (not that Haru should have taken it, but that he should have been made aware that it was available) and I'm told I don't see his charector development... I didn't even read the entire posts, just skimmed, because seriously they were LONG, like essay pages long, atleast twice the size of this comment long.... and I have learned well before now to keep away from anything that could trigger my anxiety so I simply replied to correct the "OP clearly doesn't know what it takes to work in a creative feild" comment because that is LITERALLY what I do all day, ofcourse my favorite part was the "It's so hard to find work as professional merman" argument like... really.......? Your argument is that it's hard to work that way when Haru wants to be a PROFESSIONAL SWIMMER/Olympic swimmer and that.. what? Falls in his lap? That, especially for someone with an emotional (anxiety, in my non-professional opinion) disorder, is just as difficult if not more because of the strictness, professional mermaids are a thing and because of their rarity they're valuable when someone needs one or a dozen, I actually watched some perform at my aquarium and they were there for like a two-month stint, they only had two or three shows a day that lasted ten or fifteen minutes a peice and since it was the Georgia Aquarium I can't imagine they weren't paid well, it sounds up Haru's ally to me and considering he's a very determined person (when he wants to be, ofcourse) I could easily see him saving money to get a tail and managing to find an agency or something where he could work with over the course of a summer or a semester, the same thought process goes behind the idea of being an artist, artistry and athletisicism are equally challenging feilds to be professional in so I don't know why it seems like one is his chosen path and all of a sudden the other is "too hard", ohhh I know, I hate that when that happens, ofcourse being that I write fics I don't really get any reblogs but I've gotten comments in the past, the worst is when you get flamed or insulted for a gift you made for someone, I did a fic for someone's birthday once that was trolled twice or so and ended up just putting a warning in the comments not to flame, wich sucked, because again- someone's gift, it was their request... I really often wonder if people love themselves and I usually come to the conclusion of "no" because this world is centered so much on drama and negativity, I mean you have things like those red carpet aftershows and the shows on TLC or MTV about people going through drama or... you know... the entirety of the BRAVO channel that is now 95% "housewives" (and as the daughter of a housewife let me tell you how pukingly wrong that description is just wow) so I'm pretty sure the world is built on drama and negativity and it breeds and people start LOOKING for things to stir up trouble with, it's like in any fandom, cruising along and everything is at peice and all of a sudden a post shows up in the tag- "You know what ship I hate? This one", or something equally as childish and next thing you know it's World Word III, I mean it's a pretty sad realization I had Saturday night when I checked the Orphan Black tag after the season premiere, scrolled for a god 15+ minutes and found only happiness and was floored by it, I actually even made a post expressing my shock because that is the first time since joining Tumblr about three years ago that I've gone into a tag after a new episode/chapter and have seen nothing but happy fans, that is a sickening realization but it's TRUE and very bizzare... like.. you spend months/a year waiting for the thing to come back and when it does you do nothing but hate it.. I will just never understand the need for drama... my mom and I were actually talking the other day about how our social lives more or less consisted of us, my grandmother, my very small pocket of freinds on the internet, and a few people we know well around town but don't actually have casual "You wanna talk after work?" relationships with and .. how nice that is in comparison to being involved with people all the time... because people are just mostly really negative and we prefer the drama in our lives to be fictional... irk what a way to live...

I AM SO SORRY I AM A TERRIBLE PERSON BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN I GET THESE ANGSTY FEELS AND CAN'T HELP IT *dies* Yes yes they love the kouhais, they are happy for the kouhais, KEEP GOING BEFORE IT GETS TOO SAD ;_; .... Imagine Sousuke though seeing Rin at the Olympics and Nitori taking his team to nationals oops I'M SORRY IT SLIPPED

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-04-24 07:42:37 +0000 UTC]

Idk, I never read into it too extensively but I can't even say I'm surprised that it originated from supernatural. That show is a mine of weird tropes waiting to be explored lol. Okay that's actually really funny, who would've thought free! would be the reason people would educate themselves on the whole a/b/o genre haha!

omg how are you retaining all this information on all these shows, I can barely keep track of the shows I watch and that's not even counting behind the scenes stuff! I think you'd do really good at tv marketing if you decide you want to get into the film industry LOL. How is MTV even keeping up if they have terrible funding though? I haven't been watching a lot of tv lately so I don't how bad it's gotten because I always thought MTV was doing well? They really should handle their shows better before the whole network tanks though... 

I wouldn't know how big the wars get over at the big fandoms but I've seen some nasty stuff from Free! peeps and I already think people are stepping way over the border. The thing is, when people post headcanons, that's exactly what they are. They are what you think and nobody has to actually agree so long as they aren't harmful, and it's just so ridiculous that people actually start arguing over these things because they don't agree with a headcanon? Like literally that is all it is! An idea, from a person's headspace. It's not canon. Why are you arguing over something thAT ISN'T EVEN CANON. THERE'S NO ACTUAL CANON PROOF FOR EITHER POINTS AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A HEADCANON. It's infuriating tbh and I'm sorry you had people jumping down your throat for it smh. For what it's worth, I think that professional mermaid hc is pretty cool. It would actually be great if that was an option for Haru! Though I don't think that profession is very prominent in Japan?O: Well the whole thing is just really amusing if not a little bit annoying to me because they reblog the post just complain about it, but they're really just putting it on their own blog?? They're putting the thing they don't like... onto their own blog... and spreading it for other eyes to see. from their blog. that does not like it. I'm-???? I mean, I'm really okay with people reblogging and then saying 'don't ship it but-'. But it's really something else when they start complaining about it where the op can see it?? Don't even get me started on the people who delete the captions from the post just to add their own hrhhhhhhhh. It's just how some people function I guess? They need drama to make life a little more interesting for them. I actually have a friend who does this, but I don't really know if she realizes. It gets a little tiring after a while so I just listen but try to stay out of it!

I UNDERSTAND THOUGH LOL I'm probably a masochist because I like angst ahaha! Most of my fav reads are chock full of angst and they are so good my heart cries XD OH MY GOD NO SOUSUKE HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH IN CANON CRIES OH NO BABYYY HOW COULD YOU DO THIS omg okay this is actually really hurting me Q A Q

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-04-24 08:44:02 +0000 UTC]

You're right though, Supernatural IS the goldmine for all things weird, and that's hilarious how FREE! OF ALL FANDOMS taught us about A/B/O, it's weird how fandoms do that, I mean Teen Wolf of all fandoms is like the capitol of safe, sane, consensual, you wouldn't know it to look at it but by golly this fandom has some of the most informative, well thought out and put together, actually really really healthy sex practices in fics?? I was really shocked when I learned that because wow of all fandoms but here it is, completely one-upping basically every other fandom on the subject, more shocked I could not be

Oh goodness thank you! The TV industry would kill me in a month though, that's the kind of stress I can barely live with as an AUDIENCE member, believe me o_o It's because nearly everything on MTV is a reality show and the way reality TV and scripted TV works/are funded are completely different, so let's say you have reality TV on one end and scripted on the other, you may get like a $50,000 allowance from sponsers for reality TV and only $10,000 from sponsors for scripted (numbers I am pulling out of the sky because I know less than nothing about the finances) and MTV only has three scripted shows, one of wich was just cancelled, all it has left is Teen Wolf and Finding Carter and Teen Wolf is doing better by MILES, the thing is that reality TV takes ALOT less money to do than scripted- ALOT, so even if you WERE getting the same amount for, let's say, both Teen Mom and Teen Wolf, you could get an entire SEASON of Teen Mom and only get an episode or two for Teen Wolf because Teen Wolf, being scripted, costs much more, plus the sponors pick and chose what to advertise on, so if they want to advertise something for teenagers like say an acne cream, guess what's most likely a better pull? Atleast, that's the way I understand it, I could have completely misunderstood what I've read but to my knowledge that's more or less how it works, so yeah, MTV might be doing well because they're 90% reality, their only two scripted shows however don't get any of that bacon because they aren't the ones pulling in the revenue

Yeeeeeees, yeeeeeeeeeeeeees exactly you know what I mean ;_; I have no clue what it's like in Japan I imagine it can go internationally though, and either way I know artists actually do pretty well in Japan in comparison to Western countries, atleast from what I've heard there's a slightly bigger calling for them there than, say, in the US, so that could have worked either way.... ughhhhh I hate it when they do that too >> It gets completely exhausting and that's why I have to tread fandom veeeeeeery carefully and mostly stick to my little corner of fanfic and meta *sigh* I feel like a broken record because more or less I'm always just saying "CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG?"

OHHHHH see as a rule I hate angst, but every now and then I get like this little 5% bug where I have to mention something angsty and all it ever does is hurt everyone in the process I AM SO SORRY I BESTOWED THAT UPON YOU HAVE SOME HARU AND MAKOTO ADOPTING KITTENS TO MAKE IT BETTER

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-04-25 05:40:00 +0000 UTC]

Well, Free! is a lot of firsts for me ahaha. First otp first gay ship first real involvement in fandom... I guess it decided to teach me about a/b/o too! I guess it kinda comes with the large fanbase right? There's just so many good authors who know what they're writing and it shows! I wouldn't know about free! though because I don't really look for pwp or fics that center around smut.

You seem to really like knowing these film marketing stuff so it could be your calling Nobody would know but you! I remember people actually getting angry at mtv because they stopped showing music in place of reality tv, and there was this video going around explaining why it's become the way it is, but I don't really remember why. All I know is that MTV is doing it because of money and well, what network wouldn't do it for revenue right? I just kinda wonder if any network could buy over teen wolf and give them the budget that they need to just keep their actors...

Yes yes, artists in Japan are more respected I would think. And a lot of them are doujinshi artists and they make fanbase from there. I honestly thought Haru would go the route as an artist before kyoani threw in pro swimming for Haru. I really reaaaaally didn't think Haru would want to be a pro swimmer because of how much anxiety he was building with everyone's expectations of him. It kinda just blindsided a lot of us towards the end of ES... because he loves swimming and being with his friends in the water that going pro would just suck the fun out of it... so idk(I don't wanna say it was ooc because I don't know the characters as well as the writers themselves, but y'know, it was kinda hard to just accept it haha). I'm still kinda ehh about him going into pro swimming as you can see LOL but what's done is done, and hopefully kyoani can give us more on Haru's inner thoughts towards his decision some way or another!

HAHAH I like angst so long as there's a happy ending because it makes my heart ache for everything to be alright and I just wanna hug the lil' babies and protect them from everything!! But hurt/comfort is a lot better since it gives pain but with the addition of fluff, like yes, this satisfies my sick masochistic needs. YES THANK YOU MAKOHARU AND KITTENS IS SUCH A PERFECT PICTURE OF CUTE MY HEART IS SLOWLY BEING HEALED T ꒵ T

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-04-25 06:53:14 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh really? Free! was my first sports anime- my first slice of life anime too- my first gay OTP (and incidentally not the last xD) I don't either, but some of the things I've stumbled upon by accident.... you hae no idea... o_o

I highly doubt that xD Nearly all of what I know comes from people who actually know about it in the fandoms and it all sounds really complicated to me actually Yeah, that's the thing, I don't remember why they stopped music either though... well Teen Wolf is really tricky, on the one hand I highly doubt MTV would give it up because it's the only scripted show they have that really makes them any money, on the other hand I don't know what network would pick it up, it's not quite Syfy material but it's way too dark for most "teen" channels and the ratings, although great for MTV, are considered fairly low for alot of channels, especially networks, the only channel I could think of picking it up would be theCW genre wise but I don't think they'll try for it, the ratings are much lower than their higher rated shows

I know! I really expected him to go into something creative because I didn't see the pro swimming thing coming, and yes I see in the narrative where he came to want to swim professionally but I didn't see the build up, it feels like it happened over night almost, in my headcanons, he always is a professional mermaid for me because I just still can't picture him as a pro-swimmer

Ohhh gottcha, I just... I can very barely do angst.... very barely.... You're lucky you can though because goodness this fandom has a ton of it!! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss MakoHaru and kittens, imagine it, imagine all of it!!

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Tishawish In reply to Asagi-K-Kurosaki [2015-04-28 01:55:24 +0000 UTC]

Free! kinda opened the floodgates for me ahahah. I don't even know why I fell so hard for this anime and its character but I can't complain; v ; I've already stumbled upon some pretty weird stuff in this fandom, so I believe you XD

Yeah, I was actually thinking that tw is right down CW's alley, but it's strange that something that has such a huge following isn't raking in enough for the network. I guess spn is kinda in the same boat, but it doesn't make sense to me lol

Honestly the whole of s2 just pointed in the direction of Haru moving away from the expectations people had of him to take swimming professionally. I mean, all the build up caused him to break down in ep 9! He lost his will to swim because everyone was forcing it on him, so it just felt so counter-intuitive to me when all of a sudden he agrees to go pro. They spent one episode showing him slowly accepting it, as opposed to practically all the episodes prior to the Australia trip showing him build up all this anxiety and opposition to the expectations everyone had of him... It's a really prominent thing that happens a lot in Asia(and everywhere else, but Asia especially) where we're forced to go into professions we don't really see ourselves in because everyone expects it of you and the passion for things you love just kinda dies along with it, and that was just how I saw Haru's whole story arc going, and I was rooting for him to make a decision that did not conform to everyones' expectations of him. I could talk about this more, because I can relate to this whole situation a lot and it just really made me feel so ehh that kyoani decided to that... I'm sorry, I kinda went off LOL Aaaaa, I just hope that if they do decide on another movie, that they'd show more of Haru's inner thoughts because ES really wasn't enough to convince me wholeheartedly that Haru did it entirely for himself and that he has the right mindset to continue pro//lies down

omg okay it's a good thing there's a lot of fluff going around too! I love fluff just as well so it's a win-win for me eheh But I mostly draw fluff, I think? I haven't really done anything that's too angsty. I don't know if I can do it XD Makoharu and kittens... thank you for the image..... it's too cute Q v Q

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Asagi-K-Kurosaki In reply to Tishawish [2015-04-28 08:45:27 +0000 UTC]

I'm the same way! I have no idea what attracted me to the anime or the charectors so much o_o I wasn't all that invested until the "Rei is drowning" incident ironically but since then I've been hooked

It's very weird but the only thing I can think of is that Teen Wolf doesn't have as many casual veiwers, shows like Supernatural are on a more major channel, they've been doing for a long time, so even if the SPN fanbase is massive there are also likely a ton of casual watchers who put it on Tuesday nights for whatever reason and that helps, Teen Wolf isn't as heavily advertised outside of MTV or the internet so it's one of those things that's harder to find out about, but then I could be wrong about that *shrug*

Ohhhh no worries, I feel exactly the same way!! I just don't get it, we had this entire season building up to showing that competitive swimming wasn't something he could emotionally handle and then suddenly Australia and "Oh I get it now much better" plus can you REALLY see Haru following a coach? I can't, I really... really can't...  yeah me too, it'd be nice if we had just an entire movie based on the Australia episode to get an idea of what's going on in Haru's head when he makes that choice... and also koalas and such

Ohhh yay fluff!! Massive yay for fluff!! JUST PICTURE IT and they name them adorable nerdy names like Kirk and Spock

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TsuChihiko [2014-01-29 09:22:46 +0000 UTC]

Awesome piece...  Love it!!  

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Tishawish In reply to TsuChihiko [2014-02-01 06:50:54 +0000 UTC]

eeeeee thank you very much ; v ;

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IruUmino [2014-01-24 20:12:29 +0000 UTC]

Deep, I like it. Gonna vote

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