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DarthWill3 [2015-04-15 02:59:19 +0000 UTC]

Go Starkiller!

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0biwanken0bie [2015-04-14 22:53:13 +0000 UTC]

Nice job! Interesting pose work!

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2015-04-15 00:40:50 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-15 01:08:57 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! ^^

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Bennitus [2015-04-14 21:50:37 +0000 UTC]

Nice work!
I wonder who the Sith is...

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Bennitus [2015-04-14 21:58:27 +0000 UTC]

She is Ishari. The Jedi is Jero Larco.

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Kapukw [2015-04-14 06:28:43 +0000 UTC]

Asajj flirting with Ben.

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Kapukw [2015-04-14 11:59:38 +0000 UTC]

No, one of my kids pointed that out, but it's not.

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Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-14 04:19:43 +0000 UTC]

She's wide open. One quick stab and it's over.Β 

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-14 04:33:23 +0000 UTC]

Unfortunately for him, he doesn't. She Kills him.Β Β Β Β Β Β 

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Tramp-Graphics In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-14 05:09:47 +0000 UTC]

Nope. for a couple of very good reasons. First, if he were disarmed, then yes, she'd easily kill him. However, he has his lightsaber pointed right at her chest and she's too overconfident and arrogant to see it. She left herself wide open. Any swordsman worth his salt would exploit that opening, especially in such otherwise dire circumstances and, this bring me to the second point, her weapons are too far out of position to stop him from stabbing her. She has no time to get them into position. Even if she were to swing both swords at him, he would still kill her even if she killed him in return. There is nothing stopping him from doing so. She is that exposed.Β 

That is one of the biggest flaws with the Sith; they tend to be extremely overconfident. As the old saying goes, "Pride cometh before the fall."

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-14 21:54:08 +0000 UTC]

True, but most Jedi seem to overlook the obvious.

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Tramp-Graphics In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-15 02:42:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh no they don't. They are very observant.Β 

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-15 04:12:55 +0000 UTC]

Yet they still let Vader become Vader.

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Tramp-Graphics In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-15 04:42:38 +0000 UTC]

Only because of the exceptional guile of their foe. And remember, The Emperor ultimately was defeated by Vader after the latter was saved from the Dark Side by his son Luke, a Jedi who saw the remaining good within him. It was the Emperor's overconfidence that was his undoing.Β 

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-15 12:00:45 +0000 UTC]

True, but in this case he lost. Not all Jedi are Great. Besides, she's Vader-ish. You'll see soon, if you keep an eye out.

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Tramp-Graphics In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-15 16:06:15 +0000 UTC]

Well, if you want the image to reflect that he will lose the fight, you need to change the pose of one of the characters. Either he needs to be disarmed or otherwise incapacitated where he can't strike back at all, or she needs to be in a more "Defensible" pose. She can't be wide open like that. Watch the original Erroll Flynn Robin Hood to see what happens when you leave yourself exposed like that when you have your opponent seemingly "on the ropes". This scene reflects "overconfidence before the fail", not impending victory. It doesn't take a great Jedi to see that she is wide open and that you have your lightsaber in perfect position to exploit that error in judgement. Even an idiot would see it.Β 

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-15 16:54:11 +0000 UTC]

He is focused on defense as the Jedi train. Defense never attack, or aggression, or did Lucas or Disney cut that part out of Yoda's speech.

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Tramp-Graphics In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-15 21:18:37 +0000 UTC]

To "focus on defense" does not mean refusing to fight back if you're life, or that of another, is threatened. It is perfectly acceptable in the Jedi Code to kill in self defense or in the defense of another. What is not acceptable is to give in to hate and kill out of malice and anger. Look at Mace Windu in the Battle of Geonosis, for example. He had no qualms about beheading Jango Fett. The same was true of all of the Jedi in that battle and others. They are not averse to killing when necessary. They won't kill out of anger or hatred. In this situation, the Jedi is perfectly justified in exploiting the opening this Sith has given him, and killing her.Β 

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-15 21:34:07 +0000 UTC]

The tale this goes to points this as her turning point. It makes her question her path.Β  Leading to my next pic she appears in.

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Tramp-Graphics In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-15 21:51:23 +0000 UTC]

Then, as I said, the picture needs to reflect that, and not an overconfident Sith about to be skewered by a Jedi she arrogantly assumed was "helpless", thus leaving herself wide open.Β 

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-16 00:11:30 +0000 UTC]

A lesson she learns.

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Tramp-Graphics In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-16 04:30:16 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, by being skewered. Even if she were lucky enough to survive, it's a very painful and debilitating lesson that would also result in her capture and imprisonment at the very least, not a victory. The biggest issue with her pose is it's a "follow-through" pose, resulting from a double cross slash that would have just decapitated an opponent (watch Revenge of the Sith with Anakin's coup-de gras of Dooku to see what I mean). It's not a preparatory pose where you're about to strike down an opponent.

I have a picture in my gallery with a character in a similar "stretched arm" combat pose, albeit in a crouch, not standingβ€” fav.me/d6lk3x0 The biggest difference from your pice is that in that picture, his pose is the follow-through of two strikes which have just killed two different opponents simultaneously before regrouping to go after the next two, who, at the moment, are out of melee range.Β 

Simply put, the poses you choose needs to match the actions and scenarios being presented. If a picture is supposed to depict imminent victory because of superior skill, the "victor's" pose should be a proper attack pose where she not only has the upper hand, but also is not vulnerable to an attack of opportunity by her opponent. What you have here is a situation where one combatant has become overconfident and left herself wide open to a surprise counter-attack with her opponent in the perfect position to deliver it. It is not one of a character assured of victory about to deliver the coup de gras to her fallen foe.Β 

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-16 06:04:49 +0000 UTC]

I'm done with this you refuse to understand the tale I'm telling. Part 2 is posted, check my page.

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Tramp-Graphics In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-16 06:25:52 +0000 UTC]

I understand the story you're trying to tell perfectly fine. I'm simply telling you that the image does not accurately reflect that as well as it could because of the pose the lead character is in, and giving you suggestions on improving it. Your second picture is a much better reflection of the story actions you're trying to portray, as reflected in my comments there. This one suggests an outcome you did not foresee, but which is obvious to me.Β 

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to Tramp-Graphics [2015-04-16 06:32:33 +0000 UTC]

True, and you made me see the mistake I made. I am not angry, or anything, just pointing out my story. Though obvious to many, he was focused on blocking her next attack, he missed the prefect opportunity. He also faltered in his connection to the Force, by fearing he, not quite appearing with the other expressions I used. I thank you for the conversation.

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lordhadrian [2015-04-14 03:26:30 +0000 UTC]

Action packed scene

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to lordhadrian [2015-04-14 04:06:13 +0000 UTC]

It took a little bit to get it the way I wanted it.

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lordhadrian In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-14 07:01:03 +0000 UTC]

Still, it looks very cool with the cityscape in the back

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to lordhadrian [2015-04-14 11:53:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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lordhadrian In reply to tora-no-shi1369 [2015-04-14 12:43:20 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome

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SpaceSheepie [2015-04-13 23:57:02 +0000 UTC]

Hah. I love the Sith's pose <3

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tora-no-shi1369 In reply to SpaceSheepie [2015-04-14 00:28:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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