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jd22292 [2014-08-09 18:12:45 +0000 UTC]
Don't let it bother you. I don't let it bother me much since I hate my own artwork.
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TorikaDraws In reply to jd22292 [2014-08-09 19:24:43 +0000 UTC]
Its bot just about my art but also other thinks. I feel alone in a group of 60+ people, that was the problem
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GridSlayer [2014-08-09 17:40:12 +0000 UTC]
Nuuu! I like your art! I just don't really ask to Rp with people cause they either just don't reply, or they never say anything in the first place, so like, it makes me think I suck to Rp with... That and I can't draw worth shit XD.
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TorikaDraws In reply to GridSlayer [2014-08-10 07:29:46 +0000 UTC]
Ah same here ;-; people could just write a short ending instead of not replying I think.
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GridSlayer In reply to TorikaDraws [2014-08-10 15:14:32 +0000 UTC]
It'd still make me feel like I suck to Rp with XD
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Star--Stuff [2014-08-09 17:27:35 +0000 UTC]
whispers i am always here if you need anyone okay like yO
pa is great and i would have never made cool ass friends like you guys
talk to me
rp with me
anything
i will be here
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TorikaDraws In reply to Star--Stuff [2014-08-09 19:26:35 +0000 UTC]
I live poke apocalypse too, it was the first group I joined (rp group)
But after a time most of my friends vanished/ got more inactive and due to the fact that most people i rp'd with didnt reply I lost motivation in private rp's too... but thanks that you are there ;A;
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Star--Stuff In reply to TorikaDraws [2014-08-09 21:28:02 +0000 UTC]
It was the second for me. u v u
But yeah, that tends to happen..
No problem!
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Sallidii [2014-08-09 15:55:20 +0000 UTC]
Du bist nicht unsichtbar.
Ich seh dich. Und stalke dich bis in aller Ewigkeit. x)
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GuardianStriker [2014-08-09 14:48:17 +0000 UTC]
I feel the same way, but it never bothers me though.
You shouldn't let it bother you either. Otherwise, it just feels like you're begging for attention to me.
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TorikaDraws In reply to GuardianStriker [2014-08-09 16:20:27 +0000 UTC]
I think you got it wrong
Its a rp group and I really felt left out there because people obly kept in their "friend comfort zone" most of the time and igboring other peoples artwork (not only mine)
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GuardianStriker In reply to TorikaDraws [2014-08-09 16:58:32 +0000 UTC]
Well if it's an "RP" group, then it's obvious it's going to be there mostly for role plays and not pictures.
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TorikaDraws In reply to GuardianStriker [2014-08-09 19:28:26 +0000 UTC]
I think you cant judge over it since you're not in the group. All events are drawing events and we iften have events, most likely omce a month.
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TwilightWolfSpirit In reply to GuardianStriker [2014-08-09 18:04:33 +0000 UTC]
Mmm no I disagree. Roleplays are social interactions with other people, and some of those interactions are sometimes best represented as art and other times words. Personally, I think the ones that are most fun are those in art because it's like you bring your character to life
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AyaChan993 [2014-08-09 13:49:07 +0000 UTC]
I feel rather bad now...
//hugs
I know how you feel at times though. But it's mainly my fault since I'm so awkward. X'D I guess one can feel forgotten at times. And frankly I have felt that too at P-A.
So in a way, I know what you're going through. :3
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TorikaDraws In reply to AyaChan993 [2014-08-09 16:24:44 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry to hear that
I'm pretty paraboid and thought obly me was left out, but looking through ut seems an average problem.
We Should step back in the beginning of the group, back then everyone was new and everyone drew each others character. but it feels today like people ignore others art if it doesnt contain their own character. Now i turned so angry, or most likely, dissapointed that I nearly ignore all grouo art just because i felt treatened the same. Its not fair from my side, too. And i will try to change that.
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AyaChan993 In reply to TorikaDraws [2014-08-09 17:16:43 +0000 UTC]
I see what you mean. Everyone in a group is looking for a couple of things, in my opinion:
1. To showcase their artwork and abilities
2. To make new friends and/or get together with old or close ones.
But I don't think that many people go to join groups for these reasons much anymore:
1. To broaden their horizons in the sense of the relationships they keep, as well as artwork, creativity, and what not.
2. To come out of their shell and share their talents and/or ideas with others.
3. To collaborate with others in creative outlooks and opinions and work together to make something even better than what they could do alone
4. To better their artwork and become stronger as an artist
5. To say, "Hey, I'm willing to open up and share my artistic ideas with you, share some with me, please! Let's become close in some way."
6. To come together with people who have the same interests as them (Key thing in a group if you ask me.)
7. To form a bond with those people, just for the sake of wanting to form a bond with them. And not for the sake of some sort of "reward" or benefit they may get if they do.
and most of all,
8. To enjoy themselves with art, writing, and whatever artistic media of their choosing along with the companies of others who want to feel the same.
These things up above where some of the reasons I started to join groups here, specifically RP groups. Because I wanted to do the same thing I wanted to do in the real world.... And that was to connect with those around me who also may have the same dreams, goals, and/or ambitions as I.
Now, I won't turn around and say that there haven't been times where I have or may have seemed to ignore people. (And to anyone from the group reading this, I'd like to apologize for it as well) But, in all honesty.... I'm a little intimidated by you all.
You all, to me, are fantastic, creative, and inspiring artists that make me a tad jealous at times, but also somewhat make me want to improve to some day catch up to you all.
I feel that what this group is missing most of all, is connection. And I'm not talking about a connection to those who are friends, online or irl otherwise, or even someone you look up to as an artist. I'm talking about those people who ARE forgotten at times, and DO feel the pain of being such.
I honestly am one of those individuals. And because I don't feel as if I am looked at, I tend to go into a funk (especially when view other's spectacular work) and tend not to want to draw anything.
But what we should be doing, is lifting people up when they feel down like that.
We should try listening to their ideas, or even looking and commenting on their work (maybe even give a little fair, constructive criticism if they would like or whatever!), so that it can give them the boost that they need as an artist as well as a person.
I personally feel extremely happy when I get comments on my artwork. It makes me feel better about what I'm doing and makes me want to get better. You can fave, yes, but comments on my artwork, is what I love to hear most.
Vicki, I hear you when you say that you feel that others ignore your art and any other's unless their character is involved. And I'm sure other's do too. One of my irl friend actually had to rant to me about something similar to this, in another group she currently in. But, I would like to let you know that I think you are a lovely artist. I actually took the time to look at some of the work in your gallery (if you don't me saying that) and I love how you did this piece:Β fav.me/d71nmik
The way you did the background is spectacular and the sunlight appearing from among the mist gives me the feeling of a new day. Which is how we should try and make this sudden realization of what we've been doing wrong. We should turn it into a new day, and from now on try to reach out to the other people in not only our community of Poke-Apocalypse, but of any other group that we might come across.
Thank you for taking the time to read this (if you did), and I hope you have a sparkling rest of the day~ :3
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TorikaDraws In reply to AyaChan993 [2014-08-09 22:41:03 +0000 UTC]
Ahhhh
Thabk you, this is so lovely and uplifting ;A; I iindeed read this, sorry for the delay because I was at work and just came back;Β
And this comment wont be longer since its 0.30 am now and I need to sleep
I Really agree though and will try to comment and give feedback wherever it is need;
also thank you for the longest comment I ever got xDD
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AyaChan993 In reply to TorikaDraws [2014-08-10 00:53:21 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome~! And I understand about getting sleep, it's a necessary thing. :3
And I will try to do the same as well~
And you're welcome again. c:
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TwilightWolfSpirit In reply to AyaChan993 [2014-08-09 18:17:36 +0000 UTC]
I don't mean to randomly pop into this conversation, but I feel like I just had to comment on the things you said. For the most part I agree with the things you said, the reasons for joining because I think most people do actually join with the intention of these things. But the intimidation factor is a real point because I myself have felt it when I first jumped into this place. I thought to myself "There are so many people here, how am I gonna fit in?". I think that's the problem, though. So many people either don't find a place or they do find a place and get stuck in a rut. Both places aren't really fun to be in because no one grows.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, I'm kind of amazed that veterans such as yourselves (ButlerVicki included) are feeling like the new kids on the block but you've been in the group for quite some time.
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AyaChan993 In reply to TwilightWolfSpirit [2014-08-09 18:58:59 +0000 UTC]
Pfft. I am sooooo not a Veteran. I came after Vicki, not to mention I've only been here at P-A a few months when that small opening happened where only a few could come in. Things are still fairly new to me in a sense. XD Plus, I'm a lame dork and doesn't upload much due to life and other things getting the way sadly. ; w ; And I'm awkward around new people in general, may it be online or in real life. I'm an awkward turtle, you gais.... ; w ;
But that also I can see being a problem, to be honest. And I felt the same way when I first got in the group. Me and my friend from school (who is now in the group - HOORAY~), were planning on trying for the small opening in this group back then. She unfortunately couldn't get in at the time due to some difficulties with submitting her app to the group, but I (amazingly, since I wasn't expecting to get in AT ALL) managed to get in the group. I was happy but also sad and nervous because my friend wasn't there.
Sooo.... I was awkward about RPs and the like. I could barely ask someone if they wanted to RP with me before I got scared and just didn't bother. I always waited for someone to ask me instead. And actually, that's how I've been all my RPing life, since I was 11 years old. And I even have done/still do it in real life. It's not until I am asked to join something that I joined. And very rarely was I asked growing up. But that's something else entirely.
That sort of behavior of waiting for someone followed me online, and even though I managed to have some people talk to me a bit regularly (irl and online), I still have some moments of paranoia of "whether or not someone really likes me or not/will I fit in/Am I even good enough to hang with these people". And frankly, it's caused me to have not as strong or lasting relationships with people, because I'm so nervous. But that's just me. And I'm trying to find a way to not always wait for others to call and be brave enough to say:
"Hey, I would like to talk to you", or something like that that shows you want to be friendly and know someone better. But again, that's just me and my opinion of it, after going through elementary and middle school with little to no friends, and/or friends who left due to moving and have not kept contact with me.
And quite frankly, it shouldn't matter whether we're "veterans" or not, because that feeling of loneliness and fear of not being liked or not being good enough can stick to someone regardless of age, gender, experience, or any other factor in the world. Fear, loneliness, and feeling out of place is a regular human emotion that anyone and most likely everyone has felt at least once. And if you haven't, well, I say that you've had a pretty good and simple life so far, and I hope that you continue to feel confident about yourself. Or I might say that you're full of shit for thinking that, but that depends on the situation and how I feel about it, honestly. XD
Anyway, that's my story. And I am glad that you were able to feel comfortable about sharing some of what you feel as well. :3
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TwilightWolfSpirit In reply to AyaChan993 [2014-08-09 20:05:30 +0000 UTC]
I think we're all kinda awkward turtles XD Whether that be irl or online, I've noticed that people tend to stick with their groups and don't reach out. But besides that, I'm not saying that because your a veteran (or not in this case lol) that you don't experience emotions like loneliness and the like. Not at all. You're a person just as I am, and everyone has emotions. What I meant was, I assumed (a bad habit of mine) that because you had been in the group longer, you were more established and thus you were more able to navigate through the large number of people here far better than I was. But I see now that this isn't necessarily the case with everyone who has been here for over a month.Β
I've been lucky enough to have found a group of people off-site that I can truly call my friends. But even now, thinking about it there's possibly only one person I talk to regularly in said group, albeit it's really my own fault that it's happened like that. And I've been with that small group since junior high.
So I do understand being lonely despite being in a big group and the idea of waiting to be included, because I do that same exact thing. Again, it's the reason I joined this group so that I could break that bad habit. But anywho, I'm glad you shared, because it makes it easier to share my story too :3
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AyaChan993 In reply to TwilightWolfSpirit [2014-08-09 20:31:23 +0000 UTC]
Ah, now I understand a bit clearly now! Thank you, again for explaining yourself and sharing your thoughts~ :3
And honestly, that's the main reason why I started joining groups in general. You see, P-A isn't the first group I've joined, but it definitely won't be the last! : D
But one thing's for sure, I hope you enjoy your time here in Poke-Apocalypse. :3 And as weird as a sentence that sounds, it's true. XD And I'm sure others will wish the same for you. :3
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TwilightWolfSpirit In reply to AyaChan993 [2014-08-10 01:27:52 +0000 UTC]
Glad I could clear that up~ ;3 And I hope I do, maybe we could rp sometime. Don't worry it didn't sound weird to me, but I do wish the same to you as well
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TheDirakia [2014-08-09 11:23:17 +0000 UTC]
D: ... *langsam zurΓΌck lauf* Ich komm lieber nich zu nahe...
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xXEmoDeinoXx [2014-08-09 11:06:07 +0000 UTC]
-cuddles- I am here for you darlingΒ
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