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why goku can't beat supermanwww.youtube.com/watch?v=s5g-di…
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cartoon fight club video
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ulo reflexes only 8x ulm reflexes only, physical strength 40 tons base 2,000 ssj1 50time, ssj2 time 2, 4,000 tons , ss3 time4, time 3, 16,000 tons ssgred 48,000 tons, time2 ssjgod blue 96,000
speed base 64,343,05, ssj1 32,171,582.5, ssj2 64,343,057, ss3 257,372,228,ssr 772,116,684, ssgb 1,544,233,368
combat speed base 19,302,915, ssj1 965,145,750, ssj2 1,930,291,500, ssj3, ssgr 23,166,00, 23,163,498,00, ssgb 46,326,996,00
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TheSSUltimateGoku and cartoon fight club debunk
frieza weakness this point just hurts so much, this wrecks the whole series and breaks the universes, so I guess goku lost the fight on namek and gohan didn't beat cell, but lets says that's just a plot hole ok.
one vegeta nor 18/17/goten or trunks and buu/ yamacha, can not take a planet blustering attack, if you say their can't breath in space I guess we should just forget about buu ark and 17 and 18 don't need food or water or air, .
goku and beerus universe's punches would have killed and whis so that feat is an outlier, goku couldn't destroy an universes or timeline, zeno can't destroy timeline due to trunks time machine still works.
T.O.P was a plot hole nightmare but it's contradicts the android saga and pretty much every other saga due to goku and vegeta getting stronger the longer their fight, if that's the case then how did 18 never beat vegeta if his ki would of return become stronger, it's just makes a infinite loops of plot holes in one saga, plus lets not forget that ssj blue and ssj red take a lot of stamina but goku uses it for out the whole T.O.P.
why goku can't beat superman ? goku is slower and has less striking strength plus his durable is less then his maximum output due the fight with beerus since there universal punches was there warm up and where going to die due that attack, we can't use training cause in T.O.P goku vs kalfa goku durable is the same plus this is in ultra instinct omen, plus goku had to go ssj red to catch dyspo.
superman wins due to him having better feats and better showings too and having better strength speed and durable , plus goku feats are very questionable and don't hold.
but onto cartoon fight club debunk
superman vs superman earth 2, superman earth 2 punched an universal blast from the anti monitor, superman can match him, plus superman and superman from earth 2 fought Superboy prime and the universe altering and timelines didn't happen, plus super boy prime was under a red sun and was weakened but still could smash barriers of reality.
if superman can freely bend time in space by going fast but superman has raced the flash, wally, berry and jay, plus superman has stopped the reverse, and has moved in time stop, break free from frozen time, and can make his senses faster to match the flash.
darksied had the soul of the new gods from the sources which made him nigh omnipotence and the anti life equation, plus soul fire darkseid take damaged from superman, superman didn't even fight soul fire darkseid and no the justice league didn't come to save him, Orion came casue both the world of the new gods, new genius and Apokolips which are galaxy in sizes.
superman can move things without gl help as superman has moved an solar system and a space ship that was the size of the moon and more
instant transmission/ Instantaneous Movement, cartoon fight club and TheSSUltimateGoku said goku can go anywhere with this move, goku say it himself your teleport to a person not a place, the user cannot travel to an area they have never been to unless they can detect someone familiar to them to use as a homing beacon, plus goku could get to new namek and kid buu couldn't goku or vegeta when he had it to their raised there powers up, and its happens again in revival of f with gohan, plus the move need ki and timing
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yamacha says roshi place is 7000 miles away or 11265.41 in km and the z fighter are shocked not vegeta but that still not light speed
goku had a senzu bean in the cell games after gohan killed the cell jrs and was fighting cell
Cell pumps himself up like a balloon and explodes after one minute. The resultant explosion is capable of destroying an entire planet, goku dies to this attack
and vegeta dead in revival of f in ssjg blue
paragu has a power level of 4,200 yet he still can't fight off the monsters on the planet
goku and vegeta are fighting genius and master martial arts then broly happened oh guess there not then, wait doesn't it debunk the T.O.P too oh yeah it does
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeAMj_… yup we see broly trying to break his collar and paragus says its not strong shock
even more insane superman feats that put gokus to shame and debunks what cartoon fight club and TheSSUltimateGoku said plus anything goku has showed
superman can not be erase from history by time trapper
superman stopping super boy prime from changing the time line
can move while in an time zone/ time freeze
lol you suck TheSSUltimateGoku
more cartoon fight clubs and TheSSUltimateGoku debunks lol
there said superman needs green lantern help to move things like planets
superman moving ship the moon and the earth by himself in subspace
superman moving war world that was begin powered by the big bang
yup superman moved an whole solar system by himself
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lol get dunked on TheSSUltimateGoku
ep one of dbs goku say it himself even with a zenkai boost goku think and says he couldn't beat buu, lol TheSSUltimateGoku
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superman uses the miracle machine that he powers himself
from final crisis
trainerrichie 1 day ago
some of superman best feats
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moro after taking vegeta and goku ki but still waste 3 days on new namek and still hasn't got the dragon balls
krillin ask goku to punch him as hard as he could this is after the berrus arc
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after the goku arc, goku can't take the heat or pressure of the earth core
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skip to 54 mins in, gotenks says he only has 5 mins left and must wait an hour.
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so goku and vegeta failed twice and had to stayed fused for 30mins for each and had to wait an hour for both failed try's so that's 3 hours, in this time broly was fighting frieza for 3 long hours, plus broly was able to fight goku and vegeta in blue at the same time while getting stronger, plus this just debunks the whole 5 mins fight on namek due to them begin stronger now
Yup and don't forget that whis said he would take 35 mins to get to earth and got there in the middle of the fight
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go to 1.20 in broly cant take electric shocks, plus in the film he can't break it to he turns ssj
Lol yeah but I guess we can't have that meme anymore cause Goku and frieza where far slower and weaker on namek or the same, who cares
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hasn't learned to use ki yet but can take a bullet to the head
comes back to life by his own ki blast, but with no guard or anything
has ki
has god kai
superman feats
superman beats an beast that can change to any treat
superman fighting imperix who has the power of the big bang
superman fighting impreix robots which are just as powerful as he is
superman stops a moon sizes star ship
superman stops missiles that where made to the bleed
DhWvqM0 takes sky father staff from the sources wall
MqfyWkug superman goes thought a worm hole
ZWg8eQR superman phasing the earth
OaXO6T7 superman breaking free from frozen time
piccolo said in the namek saga that frieza could rip the planet up with his physically strengthen alone I didn't know namek was 40 tons
this one bit basic says that buu is stronger then berrus
goku has no fighting style
yup goku totally owned frieza with this martials arts skills and not ssj
A5a3c57aa924183c4fe88866a2fd99c3d834e632 Hq yup chaizio did stop goku for a short time but this power didn't work on nappa
DBS70YamchaBasicallyDead-720x403 but you what goku and vegeta had to run and hide from beerus and his brother fighting while yamacha is in the middle of the strom he is truly on multiples universes level
Dbs-screenshot 2 gohan got poisoned while he has guard and ki up
Dragon-ball-super-goku-vegeta-vs-trio-danger-ki-chi goku and vegeta had to use ki shields use there didn't get poisoned, plus goku got poisoned in the universe 7 vs 6 match too while he had ki and in god form
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in the same ep so I guess its debunks itself
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The better question is "which superman can Goku beat?" Like fice of 'em.
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Post crisis, strange vister superman, superman 1000 prime, Superboy prime, superman prime, cosmic armour superman, and some more
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Oh sorry I thought you said which superman can beat Goku, ok the animated series superman both Justice League, young justice and other ones
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The cartoons and such in which he isn't omnipotent.
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I know that I was using post crisis superman Vs Goku from dbs, superman couldn't be erased from history by the time tapper, darkseid can't erase him with his omega effect, he able to fight darkseid which there is only one darkseid, and darkseid was able to survive a bomb which was capable of destroying all of existence, superman has be able to match the reverse flash's speed and others, superman has moved in frozen time, superman has moved planets and solar system by himself and took on hunter prey doomsday which defeated darkseid who was using a mother box to amp he and more
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Not to mention that Goku get his Ass handed to him 95% OF THE FUCKING TIME!!!
That, and all he cares about is showing of his power levels to his opponents. Hell, even Wonder Woman can dice his ass.
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Meh, this is like Krypto vs Z, me no like
But Goku has a hotter father thought
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Not like, I can slap this entire debate on both sides. Most people in the comments bring up pretty shitty reasons on why either or wins or loses.
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Yeah I know, but like I say to debaters in the Vs community how is Goku universal if he and beerus are going to die to an universal destruction isn't that a pothole and a outlier, plus to me it kind of goes against itself, tickets multiple characters do bring it up, like whis old Kai and the narrator even if you don't want to count the narrator that still 2 characters we have to believe in Thier credibility on the matter
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Goku was going to die via not having air. and Beerus was going to die via shin getting nuked. So its not an outlier. The destruction is completely irrelevant if their throwing punches that can destroy it and they're tajubf ut ti the face. So no. Most of the comments are legit retarted. Espeically against goku, Like frost's needle is like a non argument fucking true form darkseid got negged by a bullet. if we want to take shit out of context.
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Ok thanks for the comment, but Goku still got poisoned by frost in the universal 6 vs 7 tournament, he was in super Saiyan and had his guard up and ki flare up, yet he still gets poisoned but in the golden frieza whis tell Goku his weaknesses that he let his guard down too much that way the laser ring went through him but since these moments discredited that plus Goku and vegeta had to ki barriers to protect themselves from the trio of danger the in tournament of power
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Ok but frost is comparable to goku so why does the needle matter. If you scale to someone in power your weapons would do the same shit.With golden freiza goku let his guard down cause the match was over jfc, The trio of danger would be just as strong as goku and vegeta at that point in time. not that hard to understand
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Ok fat buu beat one of the trio of danger, plus Goku was overwhelming frost in ssj1, the golden frieza bit how do you explain Goku a bullet to the head in dB episode one when did have high level of ki and couldn't use it yet also had did Goku come back to life when hit killed him, the rule apply
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He beat basil, even then Basil legit got stronger after that fight as we see this man fight niggas who are like u6 saiyan teirs. Also frost is still able to damage goku so his needle would be strong enough to do damage lmfao. In episode one of db goku took the bullet head on. It like irritated him. So your arguement falls apart there. Anyone who watched the android saga knows weapons can work if its weilded by a strong person. King cold and trunks.
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ok yes the points you made are right, but when goku gets shoot with the ring laser its a common gun in their world, if the bullet isn't irritated but then the ring laser wrecks that's by goku unable to take it, plus he would be stronger weaker than kid goku who didn't have any ki base training who took the bullet and didn't die, the grand priest said go all out which went ss god blue kaio ken 10, plus if goku is stronger then frost since he had more forms and was holding back it mean his durable is not the same as his strength or ki output
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sorry about the late reply, but lets for a second your right and goku is universal, superman has travelled from apololips to earth which apololips is outside of the dc multiverse, superman has survive the source wall explosion, superman has been in the presence of true darkseid who can destroy universe with this presence alone, superman powered the miracle machine, superman couldn't be erased from history by the time trapper, superman has gone thought the bleed, superman has used his x ray and micro version with his heat vision to burn Manchester black brain, anything put superman over goku
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All living beings in db have ki. If you watch the rof scene Gokus guard was down and he didnt anticipate it lol. He was also in base. Also frost is strong enough to damage SS1 Goku so your points again irrelavant. Also Vegeta found it nessesary to go full power super saiyan against frost showing hes that level of threat. So like all you have is the laser shit but even that isnt enough cause gokus back was turned and was in base and his ki was down due to the battle being over. So what other points do you have that I need to debunk
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Ok compare these two scenes kid Goku get shoot in the head in dB and Goku in super get shoot in the arm which he gets a scar from it, it's the continuity of the show it wants to forget things and remember stuff at the same time, plus I have watched rof many times it's bad, plus frost was heavily fatigue, ok just check out my comments there in the post
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Goku said he was rusty and he wasnt using higher levels of ki. Its almost as if he was at a level where he doesnt want to kill anyone. So another point debunked, as for frost he would still scale to ss1 goku as he can still damage him. So again the things you have presented are weak points
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Ok doesn't that put a hole in the whole series of dragon Ball, but let's skip this point, do you have any other points you want to make
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No it does not. Im saying the arguments against goku are legit retarted.
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Look I get your point, but to me it's a huge plot hole and dragon ball super has some of the worst writing and continuity, that is just one of them which contradicts I could put a scene, do you have any other arguments
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Arguments for superman lowball him tbh.
Also yall be taking a lot of scans outta context.
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Why I have proof to back them up
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Yeah and you're proof is bad. You lowballed goku to no ends and same with superman jfc
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sorry about the late reply, but lets for a second your right and goku is universal, superman has travelled from apololips to earth which apololips is outside of the dc multiverse, superman has survive the source wall explosion, superman has been in the presence of true darkseid who can destroy universe with this presence alone, superman powered the miracle machine, superman couldn't be erased from history by the time trapper, superman has gone thought the bleed, superman has used his x ray and micro version with his heat vision to burn Manchester black brain, anything put superman over goku
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Almost as if most of his higher end feats were outliers as he was amped by a boom tube. Almost as If I can get goku on those levels as well. Almost as if he clapped a demon god who absorbed the embodiment of time and space itself. Then he clapped the same demongod who can nuke higher dimensions that can nuke worlds that dont have concepts of space and time. Again I can go over why your arguements against goku are flawed.
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ok yes that is true, but it's not canon, that's xenoverse, and yes dragon ball online is canon, xenoverse uses film characters, and how their use time travel, how time travel works in dbz makes another timeline, each time travel make an new time line, plus akira hasn't had its canon
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Good to fucking know that you conceded half your points you made on goku.
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ok, sorry I forget to mention on the lifting thing, that is for the debunk on cartoon fight club which there said superman could only lift thing like planets with help that's why I added it, plus I conceded all my points, lets use ss1 goku on namek could he rip broly collar? if so then why couldn't broly do it because he stronger
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Lol wut? Goku wouldnt even get close to broly also its to regulate brolys power. Legit in the movie the collor didnt work if he was using higher levels of power jfc
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when broly was fighting vegeta and starting to get mad/ lose control when he great ape power, broly dad goes for the remote for collar suggesting that it would of take him down, plus if goku has ki control and has be hit by lighting attack due to master, couldn't he make ki barrier to stop the electric? or blast the collar off
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It was to subdue him yes. That just means the collars just that potent. if broly gets electric shocked by the collar a barrier wouldnt do anything.
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^^ you know am actually enjoying this debate ^^ you know your stuff and you can back it up ^^ plus you know stuff about the series that's all better then thessulitmategoku plus you made better point then he ever made, but just so know I really don't care who wins really to me its the research and presentation of your argument, so I bet if you don't care why low ball goku? well I see this best feats as outliers and plot holes and their immediately contradicted, like let go the revival of f when goku said frezia weakness that he didn't learn to use his form and race to earth to kill goku before mastering it, umm how did you win on namek then goku you didn't master ssj before
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Gokus outliers are low end for him so..
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well I think the goku and beerus fight special the feat with the punches is an outlier, you can say that more of a nit-pick or plot hole, but that is my option on it, plus dbs does it to itself, like lets take in a sence in the goku black arc since its in the mid and I find it worst out super so far, when trunks returns for the 1st time to his timeline with his dad and goku, goku gets shoot at with rockets but can ok, not let he was going to die from that right or get hurt its goku, are main villain for the arc, go againt mai who fought off goku black with a rocket launcher, why did goku black run away
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Its not an outlier as goku fights niggas stronger lol
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in dbs ep 56
and there where people still around even know the only strong guy there had left was sword guy, but goku black wants to kill of all the mortals so why did he run away this is never explain in the anime so did goku black just oh fuck rocket I better run trouble approaches best be leaving
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what drive goku black always, ok would you say the superman feats which death battle used like lifting the page of inftines pages and lifting spectre
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Lifting doesn't matter to striking strength.
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yes I know that, that's not what am saying, am asking your option on them
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am asking your option on the fearts with the book of infitiny pages where superman and captain marvel lift the book and superman and wonder woman lifting spectre off the ground
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