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Published: 2011-08-30 03:18:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 1147; Favourites: 15; Downloads: 82
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Description Will I ever draw my characters, you know, in character?

Anyway, this is Ryan Gauss. He's a goat. (Obviously) He's a very motivated individual, and currently is in Med school, training to be a doctor. He tends to be a bit of a workaholic, and is quite organized, but occasionally scatterbrained. He's nearly blind without his glasses. His favorite music is usually folksy, indie stuff. He usually wears button down shirts.

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DemonFreeze [2011-08-30 22:59:06 +0000 UTC]

He totally looks like the Build a Bear I just ordered >w<

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Troggle In reply to DemonFreeze [2011-08-31 05:24:35 +0000 UTC]

Sweet. Any chance your build-a-bear even comes with a plaid shirt?

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meromiro [2011-08-30 11:17:14 +0000 UTC]

This pic is great! Yayy, for goat anthros!
Overall, I really think this picture is great and overall yet another improvement. ^^ I really like the hooves, face, and that striped shirt! The shirt must have been a pain, but the stripes look great!
The only few things I see in here are that the top horns look a little off to me, but that's just me, the jeans look like they're lacking a few wrinkles and the hand looks a little big. However, those are all hopefully fixable, minor things that you can save for next time! By the way, the anatomy is really great. I can never nail male anatomy. *jealous*

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Troggle In reply to meromiro [2011-08-30 17:35:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much.

The shirt definitely took a bit longer than I expected, and I ended up with multiple layers of Plaid while drawing. I definitely have some problems with imagining how the horns should look, and I know they've been rather inconsistent between all my sketches. And I'll definitely need to keep working on how cloth wrinkles.

I'm getting better at male anatomy, perhaps. But I still don't have everything down as well as I'd like. When I first drew the sketch, his torso was ridiculously tall, (and as you've mentioned, the had is too big), and I had to go through a wild goose hunt to chase down a way to make GIMP open the ORA file I had started drawing it as. Plus, I still need a ton of work on female anatomy.

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meromiro In reply to Troggle [2011-08-30 18:47:39 +0000 UTC]

No problem!
Anatomy is always hard to nail, porportions are as well. I'm better at female anatomy than male, it must have something to do with what gender the artist is. At least your drawing turned out okay and you were able to fix that!

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Troggle In reply to meromiro [2011-08-30 21:40:25 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. I suppose I'll have to try being a girl or something to get better at it.

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meromiro In reply to Troggle [2011-08-30 22:21:32 +0000 UTC]

Good luck with that!
On a more serious note, I find that usually studying the simplistic anime forms helps you learn the real thing. Not the extreme odd-looking ones, but the more realistic looking ones. They usually help you get the basic form and look, then add details to your liking.

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Troggle In reply to meromiro [2011-08-31 05:15:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I think looking at very simple cartoonish drawings can be a good study in seeing what's important in a picture without the normal distracting details of real life. Plus I've heard so many tutorials and stuff that emphasize getting down the simple stick figure type proportions.

I know someone said, "Good artists copy, great artists steal." (Google search seems to think Picasso said this?) I suppose that learning from the other awesome artists here could probably do me good.

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meromiro In reply to Troggle [2011-08-31 11:21:21 +0000 UTC]

Mhm! Also, if you play any video games or anything, just watch the movements the characters do, pay attention to anatomy and stuff like that. That also helps, plus you're entertained by a game.
Usually I don't do stick figure, and if I do it's more complex than just a ball and some sticks. When doing skeleton, I tend to use boxes for grouping and lines for single bones. So for the ribcage, it's a box. The arms are sticks. I'll usually sketch the shoulder as a circle just to get an idea of what's going on, then start sketching mainly circles for muscles. Some quick drawings I do just have a really simple sketch which then I just freehand in the lineart. I usually get away with it, because my style is kind of messy, but I clean it up sometimes. So that's my pointer on sketching anatomy and stuff.. I'm still not too good at proportions, but remembering all those video game characters at different angles and noting their anatomy helps as well.

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Troggle In reply to meromiro [2011-09-01 03:57:48 +0000 UTC]

Movement is definitely something I think I could pay more attention to. And video games are something I probably spend too much time on anyway, so I might as well try to get some use out of it.

I've seen all kinds of different varieties of stick figure like sketches, and mine tend to be rather simple. Just a circle for the head, and a rough approximation of where the limbs will be. Plus maybe reference lines on the head for where the eyes should go and where the middle of the face is.

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meromiro In reply to Troggle [2011-09-01 11:17:23 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, both of those apply to me as well. So usually I try to think to do that.

Sometimes people do that, but one sketching style I saw was a box for the chest and one for the hips, then for the feet and hands and you pretty much just fill in the blanks. That one was nice for drawing dudes. For females I tend to see more circle-y sketches.

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Troggle In reply to meromiro [2011-09-01 17:03:50 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I've seen ones like that which flesh out the torso pretty well. Sometimes I'll draw the hand as two parallel lines that show where the hand connects to the arm and the fingers connect to the hand, because it makes it a bit easier to imagine in 3d, and gives a good feel for the size of the palm, at least. But if my picture doesn't have the hand in a particular position or anything, I often skip it.

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meromiro In reply to Troggle [2011-09-01 17:12:03 +0000 UTC]

Nice technique! I might try it sometime

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Troggle In reply to meromiro [2011-09-01 19:47:38 +0000 UTC]

Cool. Thanks for the pointers.

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meromiro In reply to Troggle [2011-09-01 20:18:20 +0000 UTC]

No problem!

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tankguy08 [2011-08-30 03:34:55 +0000 UTC]

what a great character! he looks great!!! I like the fact that he has such high ambetions. Glasses are a plus

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Troggle In reply to tankguy08 [2011-08-30 03:35:53 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. Glad you like him. Glasses are certainly better than wondering around blindly. Plus they're rather stylish, I imagine.

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tankguy08 In reply to Troggle [2011-08-30 03:42:12 +0000 UTC]

I wear glasses and so does my fursona. very rare do i see anthro goats and with glasses no less! this one makes a wonderful edition to my collection

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Troggle In reply to tankguy08 [2011-08-30 03:47:14 +0000 UTC]

Cool. Thanks.

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