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Description Based on the discussions in this thread:

www.secretprojects.co.uk/threa…

It is essentially a COSAG (Combined Steam and Gas) version of Scheme 16 here:

www.deviantart.com/tzoli/art/R…
having the same engine as on the County class destroyers. The hull and anything other remained the same but due to the Funnels and gas intakes the superstructure is partly reworked.

The design had the following characteristics:

Dimensions: 170.69m (oa) x 18,29  x 5,67m
Displacement: Unknown probably around 8.000-8.500tons (standard)
Engines: 60.000shp, COSAG: English Electric Y100 Steam & Metrovick G6 Gas Turbines
Range: Unkown probably around 8.300km (3.500nm)
Speed: Unknown probably around 59km/h (32knots)

Armaments:

2x2 NIGS SAM

3x4 GWS.21 Seacat SAM

2x1 40mm/56 QF Mk VIII AA Guns

2x Westland Wessex Helicopters

Sensors:

3x Type 903 Fire-control Radar, one for each MRS.3 director

1x Type 978 Surface Search / Navigation radar

4x Type 985 Tracking and Search radars

4x NIGS Illuminator Radars

1x Type 992 Air/Surface Search Radar

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Brijeka [2020-05-07 02:20:05 +0000 UTC]

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Tzoli In reply to Brijeka [2020-05-07 04:40:58 +0000 UTC]

There are the 40mm's I've added. But guns are mot required for AA mission at that time. Look at USS Long Beach

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Brijeka In reply to Tzoli [2020-05-07 04:46:12 +0000 UTC]

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darkwanderer123456 In reply to Brijeka [2020-05-07 05:06:37 +0000 UTC]

She also have 2 CIWS 20mm phalanx auto-cannons, multiple missile armaments and torpedoes, that said Long Beach is bigger and heavier armed compare to NIGS which seems to be smaller, cost effective nuclear missile ship.

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Tzoli In reply to Brijeka [2020-05-07 05:02:48 +0000 UTC]

Originally it had no guns at all. The president ordered it to be equipped after a bad demonstrstion of the USN missilies capabilities was that bad.

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Brijeka In reply to Tzoli [2020-05-07 06:01:12 +0000 UTC]

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Tzoli In reply to Brijeka [2020-05-07 07:17:54 +0000 UTC]

No. There was a naval excercise where an unarmed propeller driver drone was the target and the ships in the harbour could not shot it down with their missiles! President Kennedy witnessed this and ordered that all ships have to be quipped with guns for such case. Hence Long Beach got 2 5"

"The predictions of the demise of the manned fighter really typify the 'fifties. It seemed that the new electronic technology could solve any problem, and that robot warfare was very nearly at hand. Murphy's Law had been repealed. Only after the magical new systems had entered service did it become obvious that they did not always perform as expected. Radars did not always detect targets, and missiles often failed to fire as expected. Perhaps the most celebrated incident of this type was a firepower display arranged for President Kennedy off the US East Coast in 1961, in which a propeller-driven target airplane flew towards the fleet. Three Terriers were fired in succession. By the time the third had missed, the drone was well within attack range. Reportedly, the President personally ordered the Navy to install 5in guns aboard ships previously intended for all-missile armament, such as the nuclear cruiser Long Beach. The fighters survived for much the same reason."

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Brijeka In reply to Tzoli [2020-05-07 07:48:05 +0000 UTC]

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Tzoli In reply to Brijeka [2020-05-07 08:36:09 +0000 UTC]

Because it's mission was fleet Air defense not shore bombardment or ship to ship combat hence no Guns envisioned.

Carriers too do not carry guns while their mission profile include anti ship capabilities. (Though in form of aircraft)

Also the USN's Norfolk class to wasn't designed against surface vessels at all those 3" guns are against Submarines and aircraft!

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ghosttrainhunter In reply to Brijeka [2020-05-07 03:27:56 +0000 UTC]

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Brijeka In reply to ghosttrainhunter [2020-05-07 03:50:00 +0000 UTC]

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MihoshiK In reply to Brijeka [2020-05-07 08:00:00 +0000 UTC]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy-cl…

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ghosttrainhunter In reply to Brijeka [2020-05-07 06:23:16 +0000 UTC]

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AngelisGoodwen [2020-05-06 21:42:10 +0000 UTC]

Very nice!!

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Midway2009 [2020-05-06 21:01:33 +0000 UTC]

Impressive work.

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