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Ultraflame22 β Makoto was in the Story?
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Makoto was in the Story?! Too many people look down on her story arc. Nuf' said.BlazBlue is the property of Arc System WorksΒ©, all rights reserved.
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I guess looks really can save a character after all. And here I was thinking it was just skill.Β
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Good thing she's cute and a decent fighter.... because she really didn't have much else going for her...
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Hey, she's a supporting role, cut her some slack.
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The only question is who is more useless? Makoto or Platinum?
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Platinum by far. Makoto does play a role in the story and teaches some moral lessons; Platinum is just a workaround used to enhance the plot by channeling the real Platinum. ;D
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Yeah. So she has a fair bit for boobs. For the good side once Litchi turns
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I've heard all this before. Stuff like this always tends to take the shakiest connections and exaggerate them to the point of ridiculousness. Enough... is enough.
"Wheel of Fortune" is a drama CD story that takes place in an alternate timeline - one in which Noel Vermillion was obliterated in Ibukido before she was "born". Events changed considerably as a result: Jin's secretary was Tsubaki, Lord Tenjou was killed in the shockwave of an explosion, the Ikaruga Civil War lasted many grueling months with mass casualties mounting on both sides, and Makoto had no role in Sector Seven (hence why our Makoto got the password wrong - she was thrown into this alternate timeline). When Tsubaki died taking a Legacy Edge in Jin's place, Jin leapt into the Cauldron after Ragna, the only person left to him - that is how we got Hakumen, and the events of this timeline shape his actions in the active timeline.
If you look at Slight Hope as standalone, your argument holds little water, and even that falters when you connect it to the rest of the story instead of just being a dog in heat.
Friendship - Makoto's Arcade story - was shaped by what she learned in Slight Hope, and she directly struck at the core of the conflict in Continuum Shift: the feud between Noel and Tsubaki. Engaging Tager got Sector Seven off her back long enough to do her work, disabling Tsubaki would keep her from trying to kill Noel, and subduing Noel forced Hazama to interfere to keep his plans on rails - Makoto had ruined his plans in one timeline, and he didn't want her doing it again.
In Decision - Jin's story - Makoto was forced to lower her guard due to knowing firsthand that Jin had a low opinion of Intel. Due to this, and her handiwork in Slight Hope, Hazama sought to assassinate her when he caught her chatting with Jin - he had more important things to do than constantly monitor one squirrel, especially one who knew enough to derail everything.
In Desperation - Noel's story - Makoto sought to chat with her in the interim just prior to Continuum Shift proper. She left with a loud and clear warning - "Try to stay away from Captain Hazama, OK?" - that Noel ultimately failed to heed.
In Loyalty - Tager's story - Makoto met and chatted with Tager regarding their operations with Sector Seven. This links to Darkness Visible - Relius' story - as Relius shows up not long after, and Kokonoe sends Lambda as interference while Tager and Makoto bail.
In Relatives - Carl's story - Carl was interrogating Tsubaki too vigorously due to what amounts to roid rage, and Makoto intervened on Tsubaki's behalf, both to stop the fighting and to escort Tsubaki to safety. She wanted to move Tsubaki to a place where she could rest peacably and hopefully get out of town before things got worse - she either arrived too early and missed Hazama's attempt to mindrape her, or the symptoms didn't show around her, and with the possibility of either of the two bastards on her tail, she couldn't chance going back to check on her.
Say what you will, but when you understand the story and its connections on a deeper level, you understand why Rachel put Makoto back on the board - she appears less as a filler character and more as someone actively trying to unfuck the rest of the cast, only to fail this time around due to being underpowered (she's very strong, yes, but compared to Ragna, late CS Jin, and Hakumen?) and overbooked (too many problems, not enough time).
I know I can't change people's opinions on Makoto, but I get the feeling that the internet sees Slight Hope as their self-appointed right to bitch about her. I have to keep explaining to people why Slight Hope isn't as much of a waste of time as everyone says it is, and it tries my sanity every time someone goes ahead and bashes her to this caliber without trying to figure things out. So in short, this picture was what it finally took to make me lower my standards for intelligence on the internet, and I hope the creator of this image is "proud" of herself.
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Keep your pride to yourself,ok ?
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It would appear that you and Ultraflame both have things figured out. However, even though one message was intended, it could be read in a manner that is not parallel to that intention. My reaction and Ultraflame's response were a collision based on this lack of parallel.
I would have replied, but you said everything I could possibly say, and more. I thank you.
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What do you want from me ?
Stop thanking me,and let us part ways...
pride is not an important factor,
you know ?
'Even a stray has pride.'
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Oh, I am aware of the drama CD and all the other BlazBlue stories(Was a die-hard BlazBlue fan since before it was even released), But I was simply pointing out the fact that in the BlazBlue story(The game only, which is the story that most people hear and not the other and more in-depth stories. Few people go further than the story mode in their attempts to learn the story) she is shown to be a plot-enhancement character only. I fully agree that she is of great use to the story, but the story mode just does not show it. With out foreknowledge and a head for motifs and storyline people lose all the important areas of Makoto's character. The same thing happens to Bang and Carl, not to mention Litchi. Too few see the deep meaning in every character's story and how amazingly well they all come together to create the powerful and moving story of BlazBlue. A master painter could never make a picture so beautiful.
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Don't forget Tager. It takes until Chrono Phantasm for him to do anything to move the story that Kokone couldn't have done, even if he made a great comic foil.
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As a Blazblue fan myself I am willing
to say this- please listen well.
You did quite an important job to be honest - thanks to your picture and the discussion with CerotechOmega post,
people and fans will get introduced
to the deeper side of the Blazblue story.
Maybe they will be forced to do some thorough research ?
You have the right to state your opinions
abut Makoto and her role in the script,
and no hard feelings on this part .
Makoto role may seem minor and insignificant at first glance...
but she is more than meets the eye.
Her dialogue with Jin in CS moved me deeply...as she cared for him deeply
and wanted him to stay.
Add her personality,caring for others,
kind heart and curves,and you get
the character who is both likeable and worth the admiration.
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True enough, but it seems people are still missing my point; I am not saying that she plays no role or that she is not important to the story and lore of Blazblue. What I am saying is that her story mode was lost to anyone that did not really think about it. There were no funny punch lines or comical janks and, to those that are not fans of the franchise, this means that a story mode is boring.
I am fully aware of her character and her relations to the story(I taught a seminar on the inter workings of the BlazBlue story to the members of C.A.L.V.A.D.E.A.N., and I would hope I knew what I was doing. ;D). To me, your comment seems to be trying to convince me of her importance as if I am the one that needs to do the research on how the true story works(my apologies if I misunderstood, but I just wished to set the record straight. I do not mean to accuse you of anything but I would rather talk out a misunderstanding, even if it is all in my head, than let it lay unfixed).
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Let me explain,then:
(to you )
You did quite an important job.
To be honest - thanks to your picture and the discussion with CerotechOmega post,
fans of Blazblue will get introduced
to the deeper side of the Blazblue story.
Maybe then they(aka Blazblue community an dfans ) will be more willing to do some thorough research and pay attention
to details?
(to you)=>
You have the right to state your opinions abut Makoto and her role in the script - glad you are observant and introducing us to
a certain problem worth the analysis.
I see no flaws in your reasoning
and no hard feelings on this part.
(To Blazblue fans)
Makoto role may seem minor and insignificant at first glance...
but she is more than meets the eye.
(as for me)
Her dialogue with Jin in CS moved me deeply...as she cared for him deeply
and wanted him to stay.
Add her personality,caring for others,
kind heart and curves,and you get
the character who is both likeable and worth the admiration.
You did a great job,which
will enable us to learn more about the world of Blazblue.
HOPE I MADE MYSELF CLEAR NOW...
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It is not your English that is to blame for this; I am a very territorial, self conscious, and paranoid person(Not a good mix as you can guess) and sometimes I feel as if others are trying to prove me wrong or talk down to me in a condescending fashion. This is just my mind playing tricks on me, and happens often. It's one of the reasons that I often ask what people mean or why they say something, in order to prove to myself that they are not actually insinuating anything by their words.
Few notice these things about me because of my very random and up-beat attitude.
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Are you always that worried ?
Throw away your fears !
You have way too many worries,it seems.
Why won't you just take
it easy ?
Don't forget that I am not
the type of guy who
acts disrespectful towards other people views or opinionsI am pretty open to an interesting discussion.
You don't have to explain
all of your doubts to me-
have more confidence in yourself !
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It's not like I live in my room with a blanket over my head and hope the monsters called 'humans' don't find me. ;D
It's more like I look deeper into the things people say and how they act and draw conclusions that may or may not be fully true. I don't have self esteem problems or anything. I just see the world from a negatively tinted eye. That's why I like listening to other people and how they feel about the world and the things in it. People call me quiet, but it's not because I do not speak that I am silent; It is because I am always listening. The world is always brighter when some one else is telling you about it. ;D
Keeping an open mind to the ideas around me lets me see the world from all sides. No one can say they have lived in this world till they have seen it through the eyes of another. I intend to live in this world more than my fair share. ;D
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Just think twice before you
make me feel sad and burdened
with trouble...
Are you a psychologist ?
All these analytical thoughts
and deep analysis is not a thing
I meet often these days...w
hich makes me glad that I met you.
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Though some would say I am, I am but a person that people have on speed dial when they need to to talk or, more over, when they need some one to listen.
It was not my intention to burden you. I simply wished to impart truths about myself.
It was indeed a jolly event; Our meeting that is. I hope to speak more in future, but, perhaps, of things less heavy than views on the world and the way of life, and more about the thing we both love: Gaming. ;D
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Have you seen my newest Makoto fanart
[link]
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If you feel like rating or posting some advice on my pictures-
feel free to do it- I will accept your advice and opions and welcome these tips with open arms !
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Is my english that bad 
I was trying to convince the Blazblue fans to pay more
attention to details,not you...
because I know that you are fully aware of the facts.
You know the value of her importance.
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As much as I love Makoto, I have to agree. Her story did not contribute to the...well story AT ALL.
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Most of TV Tropers praise Makoto like hell on how important she is and will be, but I more or less agree with what you say here, Ultraflame.
And people say Litchi is more irrelevant than her! Blasphemy!
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((She's not that bad but she's pretty much too involved. 
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Too true, let's hope that in next BB we will see some actual story.
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I can only think of three reasons for her to be in the story:
1. They wanted a squirrel girl
2. They wanted to use that outfit
3. Fanservice and fetish fantasy
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why do I feel like I'm not alone there? XD
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Makoto's story wasnt bad but it wasnt that good either.
im a fan of Makoto's and i really think her significant role will be shown in the next game(^^)
throughout the story she has been showing that she WILL have a big role when the story comes together.
she has more knowledge of what is going on then most of the people in the game.
((im mostly a fan of Hakumen.......and Tsubaki, but i keep up with the other characters, especially the ones i love to play in the game a lot))
(^^)
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The same could be said of Arakune. His roll is going to be large in the new game, or so I hear from reliable sources.
HakumenXTsubaki shipper here. ;D
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Exactly(^^)so that should actually mean her showing up in the story is actually an interesting thing, and a good thing(^^)
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. I believe I made a similar comment on an earlier picture, but Makoto's entire plot relevance is that Rachel took an interest in her and we know that Relius is interested in her. I was expecting to see her running around, doing things like in Arcade mode with testing Tager and stuff. I wanted to see a fight where Makoto fights Bang because she though he was going to attack Jin after Jin saved her from Hazama. Makoto's story was simply a huge let down.
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Agreed on all counts.
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((I kinda feel like Makoto got screwed a lot little story wise. Even so, her twist in her story kinda mind fucked me, not gonna lie. And if you take away the fanservice, I'd still like her.
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I'm not saying that I do not like her; I'm saying that she is not plot relevant in the slightest. I enjoy her character(Sometimes) but it looks like she was just thrown in as a novelty instead of the character we were promised. Her story mode isn't even part of the main plot! -_o
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((Yeah, I feel the same way. I'm really hoping she gets more plot relevance in the next game or I will be very disappoint in Arc. ))
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So say we all, Excelsior!
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Umm....her purpose will be to be Noel's umm.................girlfriend for fanservice.........
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She doesn't need to be part of the story, she's part of the fan-service.
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Arrrrgh, agreed completely. >_< Don't care what fans say, I will always hate Makoto. D:<
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What is wrong with you?! XD
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Many, many things! (But this is not one of them)
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