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CTSael [2018-05-24 05:47:43 +0000 UTC]
I finally managed to get the chance to rewatch Infinity War! (I don't know why it's been such a struggle to find the time to do so... ;_; ) Of course, I've been brushing up on my quoting as expected; refined my memories of certain dialogues so that I've got them down verbatim. ^^
Strange: You don't have any money?
Wong: Attachment to the material is detachment from the spiritual.
Strange: I'll tell the guys at the deli. Maybe they'll make you a metaphysical ham on rye.
Wong: Wait, wait, wait... I think I have 200.
Strange: Dollars?
Wong: Rupees.
Strange: Which is?
Wong: Uh... buck and a half?
Strange: *sighs* What do you want?
Wong: I wouldn't say 'no' to a tuna melt.
Oh, and I remembered to keep an ear out again for that Ebony Maw quote you were curious about:
Maw: Painful, aren't they? They were originally designed for microsurgery, and any one of them... *takes notice of and turns attention to Stark* ...could end your friend's life in an instant.
Tony: I gotta tell ya, he's not really my friend. Saving his life is more of a professional courtesy.
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-24 06:11:28 +0000 UTC]
(Awww!)
I find it amusing how he combined a concept, with a common food item e.g ham on rye+metaphysics and I now know what a tuna melt is.
Microsurgery! Thank you! Even if you miss some of it, you can make an educated guess. It makes you think what it could be used for, maybe veins in the brain. Which makes it cruel. He's torturing a surgeon with surgeon tools.
This is somewhat related because Thor's in this movie, but which country's mythology is your favourite? I just finished watching the new God of War game and I have a newfound appreciation for Norse Mythology.
Also, did you read the first Avengers 4 synopsis? It mentions how fragile reality is!
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-24 07:37:01 +0000 UTC]
My favourites are Greek and Norse mythologies, but I also liked finding out about Kelpies in Ducktales.
^^ I don't have a PS4 (there's no game series I follow to entice me into buying it), but it's good to hear that you got to play it for yourself.
"because it's not your time... yet." Awww...
I saw people go the other way and say it was Steve's time to sacrifice himself. But I like the sound of your idea.
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CTSael In reply to Undreamtstories [2018-05-24 18:22:57 +0000 UTC]
True. They do have a point there.
"Hey, I happen to have a knack for getting overly invested in things I have yet to fully understand. First was astral projection, then the Book of Cagliostro, Eye of Agamotto and the Dark Dimension. You can't keep things secret from me!"
Yup. That would be Cumberbatch/Strange in a nutshell. Also:
"I already know that Spider-Man comes back and how, so I need to be able to shush Holland about any potential spoilers! He and Ruffalo are still the worst at keeping their mouths shut in front of the public."
So have you watched Deadpool 2 yet?
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-25 00:53:21 +0000 UTC]
Oh! That's the true reason why! You're on to something there.
No, I'm not going to watch it. The story telling has changed too drastically (gratuitously violent (more than usual) and questionable decisions (making Cable the villain and the movie being pointless.)
But thank you for asking and remembering that I was looking forward to seeing it.
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CTSael In reply to Undreamtstories [2018-05-25 05:01:11 +0000 UTC]
It's not like it's untrue. Anything that he ever gets invested in, he gives 115% of the effort. Either he shows the interest and achieves what he wants—and it shows in the final product/end results—or it's something he could care less about. (The part that makes what I just said even funnier is that it's true for both Benedict Cumberbatch and Stephen Strange! The casting was truly meant to be. ^^)
For example, you can really tell how much Cumberbatch loves his role as Doctor Strange because out of the entire Marvel cast, he's known for being the one to enjoy collecting the most merchandise for the character he portrays. (What's great is that several other actors in Infinity War singled him out as the one to have the strongest habit for doing so. Basically, the entire rest of the cast knows just how... devoted... he is to his role.) He even goes so far as dressing the part when going to buy the comics! It's either all out or nothing with the guy. xD
Aw, that's unfortunate. I thought it was pretty darn good! Cable... well... that not entirely the case with him. I'm tempted to spoil and explain, but maybe there's still a chance that you might change your mind about skipping the movie?
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-25 05:08:38 +0000 UTC]
I loved it when he bought the comics ^^
I'm glad you liked it, but I read the 4chan leak. I don't like that they killed X-Force in violent ways (wood chipper) or that they fridged Vanessa and then undid it.
I know that Cable was doing it for his family, but he was portrayed with attributes of one of his worst enemies in this one (wanting to murder a child like Bishop) I wanted him portrayed in a more positive light. But it was sweet that he shielded Wade from his own bullet with a coin, I'll give you that
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-25 05:53:32 +0000 UTC]
I'm sure it was funny in that context, I just don't like seeing characters not treated with respect and used as a joke.
The fact that people cried means that it's more emotional than I thought! Was it Vanessa dying/Deadpool getting shot at the end that caused the tears? Or anything else that I haven't heard of?
"Fighting?" Heh, heh.
You're not saying too much, I already know most of the movie. Please share!
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CTSael In reply to Undreamtstories [2018-05-25 06:29:54 +0000 UTC]
Well, Vanessa died at the very beginning. There are several scenes throughout the movie in which Wade is trying to understand his situation/cope with Vanessa's death via dream-like sequences in which he sees her and tries to get her attention/reconnect with her. In particular, the unplugged version of "Take On Me" renders one of these scenes utterly perfect, and done in the most delicate and beautiful way. People were sad at the other Wade/Vanessa sequences, but I could hear some straight-up sobbing during "Take On Me." It also makes you really sit back and reevaluate the song's lyrics, given that the normal version is so upbeat and seemingly cheery.
Juggernaut's theme is titled appropriately: "You Can't Stop This Mother F*****" That isn't even a joke, either! It's the actual song title. xD
Okay, so during the big Juggernaut fight, Wade makes a crack at Avengers: Age of Ultron with one of AoU's more memorable quotes. Even while being tossed around, He tries to calm Juggernaut with "Hey, big guy... Sun's getting real low." Hands down, it easily earned one of the absolute loudest laughs from the entire audience. Both times. ^_^
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CTSael In reply to Undreamtstories [2018-05-09 05:21:48 +0000 UTC]
Given that the Cloak of Levitation is sentient, I like to imagine Levi's variation of getting cleaned is behaving like a pet who dislikes/hates baths. Lint-rolling would instead be the fabric equivalent to being groomed. Poor Strange would have to wrestle it into being hand-washed and hung to dry... usually. Only this time, Levi actually WANTS that bath! I can only imagine how often it needs washed after Strange bestows it to his successor. ^^
(Please tell me I'm not the only one who wants the MCU to do this!? They've already introduced Strange's apprentice during the GotG Vol. 2 end credits. *_*)
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-09 07:45:22 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
Any quote that refers to an ancient artifact as a necklace and Stephen as a 'wizard' deserves more recognition.
If you liked those lines, then you'll be happy to know that there's a website that features a lot of the best lines in great detail.
Spiderman: So, what is in this guy’s problem, Mr. Stark?
Stark: He’s from space. He came here to steal a necklace from a Wizard.
Stark: Kid, that’s the Wizard, get on it.
Spiderman: On it!
www.awortheyread.com/avengers-…
My gleeful reaction was saying 'yay' when the Captain Marvel logo showed up.
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CTSael In reply to Undreamtstories [2018-05-11 03:53:33 +0000 UTC]
...*time joke missed?* Never mind, it was just a small Dr. Strange reference.
Oddly enough, I do remember certain dialogues already that I wouldn't think to until I'm at complete memorization. More specifically, the banter between Doctor Strange and Wong as they're walking down the stairs discussing the prospect of lunch at a sandwich shop.
Strange: You don’t have any money?
Wong: Us monks manage fine without. Attachment to the material is a detachment from the spiritual.
Strange: How much do you have?
Wong: Maybe 100 rupees?
Strange: And how much is that?
Wong: About… a dollar and some change?
Strange: *sighs* What did you have in mind?
Wong: Well, I wouldn’t say 'no' to a tuna mel—
*Crash landing occurs*
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-11 04:11:49 +0000 UTC]
No, I got it. I just didn't know what to reply. *Rewinds time and gives you a *
That's good. There's some dialogue that's so unexpected that my disbelief makes me only remember the words I'm familiar with. When Tony mentioned the ice-cream, I was like, "Did he just mention Ben & Jerry?!"
To be honest, I wasn't optimally prepared for remembering. The distress signal put me on high alert and I thought, "People are talking now, it's important, quick, remember it!"
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CTSael In reply to Undreamtstories [2018-05-11 05:30:07 +0000 UTC]
I'm gonna assume that it's just my rose-tinted goggles in regards to the comics, but... after some more rewatching of Doctor Strange, I've decided that I do like the movie to a good extent. "Extent." Key word there. It's no longer towards the bottom of the MCU barrel for me, closer to the middle. Plus the fact that I do appreciate certain other actors who are a part of it, namely Rachel McAdams and Michael Stuhlbarg. Stuhlbarg did fabulous work in The Shape of Water and Call Me by Your Name... and who could forget McAdams' iconic character Regina George from Mean Girls? Also, by giving the film a rewatch, there are actually subtle references to the comics that I never picked up on the first time watching, mainly because I simply didn't bother to.
I may in the minority here, but any Iron Man movie aside from the first, any Thor movie aside from Ragnarok and Ant-Man just don't do it for me. I can't stand any of them, and *raises Flame Shield* I'm not exactly the biggest fan of Loki, either. (My favorite MCU villains are Zemo and Vulture.) Comic-wise, yes, he's awesome. But in regards to the MCU, I was bored of Hiddleston's "routine" once the first Avengers was done with. He was meant to be the villain there and he made it work, amazingly so. Being the God of Mischief is one thing, but ultimately, he develops into more of an anti-villain after his "big bad" role. Later movies go overboard on the bordering pure villainy again, it gets very irksome. Ragnarok handled the character well and basically perfected the anti-villain that he's meant to be. I really enjoyed his role there. But any film aside from Avengers 1 and Ragnarok, I just find Hiddleston's depiction irritating, therefore my impression of the character (MCU-wise) has a bittersweet taste. I had no tears for him during Infinity War because, in my opinion, he's already threatening to overstay his welcome. And if Part 2 is going to relate to the comics in any way at all, then certain MAJOR characters are definitely dying... permanently. I won't spoil if you don't already know who.
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-11 05:47:28 +0000 UTC]
As an observer looking back, I look at it with a bit more kindness, but it's not enough to make me watch it again. Reading up on Ancient One quotes, I found it touching when she said this: "I never saw your future, only its possibilities. You have such a capacity for goodness.
I also wanted to give Christine more props, she put up with Stephen before he matured into the person we know today.
"Like what? Like you" Geez... O-o
I was just about to ask you where you stand for other MCU films. I'm already counting the days until I see Ant-Man and the Wasp (57), so when I thought I saw that Ant-Man was one of those movies you didn't like, I panicked. But then I re-read the word 'aside'
You can lower that shield. I had no tears for Loki either, it was his time. (I did feel for Thor resting his head on his chest though)
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CTSael In reply to Undreamtstories [2018-05-11 08:19:58 +0000 UTC]
Uh... that is what I meant, though? It's just grammatically correct to not add a comma between the final two items in a list. "any Thor movie aside from Ragnarok" "and Ant-Man." But it's at that fine line between MCU movies I don't like and MCU films I do like, so... lowest in my ranks of liked films, but also least-disliked in my list of hated movies. (Though I am willing to give its sequel a chance.)
As for my personal list of MCU rankings:
19. The Incredible Hulk (Ew... no one I know likes this movie.)
18. Iron Man 2 (I was bored for 95% of the duration. The only parts I liked had Black Widow. Tony: "I want one." Pepper: "No." Boring villain, too.)
17. Thor: The Dark World (There goes Loki being irritating... more so than in the first. Utterly crap villain. Only redeeming thing was the end-credit scene w/ the Collector.)
16. Thor (If any MCU film feels the most cartoony, it's THIS one! Yet one of my favorite actors, Ray Stevenson, happens to be in it. So I can't hate it any more than where I have it placed in my list.)
15. Iron Man 3 (I did enjoy seeing Stark dealing with PTSD from the events of The Avengers. I love when films get psychological. Also, Pepper proved that she can be a badass, too.)
14. Ant-Man (I did enjoy it, though some of the humor was simply not my kind of humor. The scene that did have me invested to any real extent was the scene with Falcon.)
13. Avengers: Age of Ultron (The AI villain concept was done... okay? Ultron could have contributed so much more as a villain than what the MCU depicted of him. Also, interesting way of changing Vision's origins, though I'm certainly not protesting it either. I adore Paul Bettany so much as an actor! So seeing him upgrade from voice-acting J.A.R.V.I.S. to physically being on set as Vision, for me: )
12. Captain America: The First Avenger (Truly a decent film. I enjoyed it all the way through, though knowing as a comic fan that Bucky didn't truly die when he fell from the train made me feel mixed emotions. The bad: I knew he'd return, so the "death" felt empty. The good: Knowing that that set him up for becoming the Winter Soldier in a sequel! )
11. Black Panther (Now this is where some will go baptismal on me, trying to "persuade" me into perceiving that an overhyped film necessarily equals a "masterpiece." It wasn't. I did like it, it was a strong film with a great villain, but that's just it. It was a "good" MCU movie.)
10. Doctor Strange (Again, like I said, I have really strong attachment to the comic version of the character. Doctor Strange is my all-time favorite Marvel character alongside his Guardian apprentice, and it certainly doesn't hurt to have a wonderful actor like Benedict Cumberbatch portraying him in the MCU. Sadly, his origin film could have been executed better than what it turned out to be. The twist of the knife, though, was Dormammu's portrayal. What's wrong with his fiery countenance that made them deprive him of it?! If they can so aptly CGI everything else, then they can surely do Strange's greatest adversary justice!)
9. Thor: Ragnarok (The only Thor entry that I legitimately enjoy. Loki actually felt portrayed correctly here, given that his major villainous moment has already passed. Also, who doesn't feel entertained when Jeff Goldblum becomes involved?)
8. The Avengers (I can't think of anything negative to say about this one. Loki gets his big moment as an actual antagonist here. The Avengers all prove to have great dynamic with one another in regards to their respective characters.)
7. Spider-Man: Homecoming (Oh man, did Michael Keaton blow me away with his performance! Never would I have thought to like the Vulture prior to this film; the character is one of the least likable of the Sinister Six. Tom Holland is also the perfect fit for Spider-Man: just the right balance between superhero and witty teenager. Garfield leaned too much into the superhero spectrum while Maguire focused more on the opposite, but without the adequate wit to properly match Spider-Man.)
6. Iron Man (The classic. The forefather. The leader of the entire MCU. His origin movie is a staple piece of entertainment to boot, doesn't really matter if one's into comic movies or not. As the first in the franchise, it actually has the capability of standing on its own, no prior Marvel experience needed.)
5. Captain America: Civil War (A very well-made and interesting film. Though many others tend to choose this as an obvious favorite, there just so happen to be other MCU films that I simply prefer more.)
4. Avengers: Infinity War (Plenty of greatness and a somewhat strained attempt at balancing the screen-time of each group of characters. Aside from the pacing and the preemptive death of an engaging villain, everything else fell into place rather well
3. Guardians of the Galaxy (I actually can't say anything about this film without creating a full-on essay of everything I either love or simply appreciate about it. It's a film for the freakin' Guardians of the Galaxy, and it's actually a hit! Okay, I'll admit, when it was first announced I thought it was going to be the first Guardians' origin story. I'm actually satisfied that it wasn't, though the reveal of the character cast certainly threw me for a loop. How the hell is an older Guardian like Yondu supposed to fit in with the second generation of the Guardians? I never once resented the complete overhaul of his character, however. Ravagers = space pirates. Awesome. And the foster father-son dynamic with Quill was a really intriguing approach to his character. Even prior to Vol. 2, the context subtleties and nuances of their relationship are already there, so I find it odd how so many people didn't pay any real attention to their bond until the sequel.)
2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Bucky, Hydra, Cap's stealth suit... If there was one thing that needed fixing from the first Avengers film, it was that ridiculous variation of Steve's uniform. Plus, I never would have expected to love a political thriller so much.)
1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 [C'mon, did you honestly think it would be anything else? It gave me the things I wanted from a GotG sequel, and then some. I wanted more backstory and culture for the Ravagers, the identity of Quill's father (though it's not J'son of Spartax, wtf?) and further character development for Starlord's crew. What's more, the rest of my precious team was introduced! As Ravagers, interestingly enough. Stallone is a convincing Stakar (just as much a jerk as he is in the comics) and Rosenbaum of all people is an interesting choice for Martinex (considering he only has two lines in the entire film). Michelle Yeoh, Ving Rhames and Miley Cyrus are not who I'd have expected for Aleta, Charlie-27 and Mainframe at all. Mainframe is supposed to possess the AI of Vision, meaning "he" should have Paul Bettany's voice, NOT a female's. I wish Nikki could have joined them, though. Of course, I can't neglect to mention my man Krugarr. Here's to hoping DS2 introduces him to Strange! *fingers crossed*]
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-11 09:31:53 +0000 UTC]
The grammar made it seem like it meant any movie except Iron Man, Ragnarok and Ant-Man, I don't like.
I hope you didn't go to too much trouble of typing that up, because my opinions are just passing remarks!
Iron Man, Cap and Thor are the solid movies. I liked the Shakespearean drama of the latter and Loki.
Winter Soldier was a game changer that Marvel has never replicated again, not even the snap was as good as the Hydra twist.
Thor 2 had the worst villain in the history of comic book movies, Iron Man 3 was a waste of time besides the PTSD and arc removal. Guardians I didn't like initially because I compared it to the Avengers, but then I realized it's one of the strongest entries.
Ultron was too much of a wisecracker, but Vision's origin is one of the best in the MCU.
Ant-Man is my personal favourite movie.
GOTG 2 had some of the best emotional beats, but was let down by immature humour. It also marked the beginning of increased stakes.
Homecoming had a good portrayal of a teenage Peter and a surprisingly good villain. But the changed supporting cast and Peter being brought down by the adults in his own movie and looking less like his own hero, did not make for a good time.
Doctor Strange had missed potential, but was worth it for Cumberbatch ^^
Ragnarok didn't take things seriously enough and made me sick of Loki's constant side switching nature. But moving forward, Thor taking things in stride like Ragnarok was a great move in Infinity War, which was pleasing and cohesive as a whole.
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CTSael In reply to Undreamtstories [2018-05-11 17:04:37 +0000 UTC]
You didn't give any impressions for Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Avengers 1, Black Panther or CA: Civil War?
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Undreamtstories In reply to CTSael [2018-05-12 01:00:45 +0000 UTC]
Because they're a mixed bunch of mostly negatives and positives, but if you insist.
1. Iron Man 2: Liked it, but not as good as the first (I want my bird!) 2. Hulk: Liked it because I had just missed seeing it in theatres and had to wait for the DVD. I liked the angst and the fight in the middle of the city. (You said who even liked that movie? It put me off giving an opinion about it.)
3. Avengers: The MCU's gem, Loki included, last act a bit long. 4. Black Panther: It will probably underwhelm me and I don't need more darkness right now, so I won't watch it.
5. Civil War: Stand out moments (airport, Bucky/Falcon bromance and Tony finding out the truth), but the conflict feels contrived and petty and it's not the kind of story I want to see (heroes fighting each other, minimal stakes.)
I know it might have been the Russo's plan all along to fracture the Avengers before Infinity War, but my inner cynic suspects this movie was a response to BvS.
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