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Published: 2016-11-21 12:03:08 +0000 UTC; Views: 7957; Favourites: 59; Downloads: 64
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lasii6 [2023-01-02 16:59:42 +0000 UTC]

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VostroyanAdmiral [2022-10-30 06:09:58 +0000 UTC]

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Kurnass-86 In reply to VostroyanAdmiral [2022-11-01 01:14:02 +0000 UTC]

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AzharDEVIANTART [2022-05-25 16:49:28 +0000 UTC]

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TheOfficialEscargoon [2019-07-15 23:55:00 +0000 UTC]

I've always thought of a hypothetical Ottoman Empire combined with Turkic central asia

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Metallist-99 [2018-12-22 11:21:56 +0000 UTC]

Возрожденная Османская Империя выглядит круто, но странно, что к сфере влияния Нео-Оттомании присоединены Венгрия, Украина и Волжская Республика с Доном (по Балканам я могу еще понять, почему они в сфере влияния- они уже раньше были в составе Османской Империи, да и болгары- славянизированные тюрки)? И почему Грузия напрямую присоединена к Нео-Оттомании?

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Vah-Vah In reply to Metallist-99 [2018-12-22 16:45:28 +0000 UTC]

Ну Венгрия и Украина ведь тоже были под влиянием. А c Грузией просто так получилось.

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Taz-Kid [2018-03-29 02:54:47 +0000 UTC]

hallo2222
grisador
PolandStronk
AvatarVyakara
GammaEradon
Spiritswriter123
DinoSpain
Arminius1871

soo i just want to clear the Crimea Question, its mainland to Turks because Crimean Khanate was Autonomous thanks to Ottoman Empire supporting a specific heir, Ottoman Family respected the Crimea Khan Families as Equals. The way i read it it almost looked like they could marry each others house as one but this never happened. Crimea Khanate just stayed as Autonomous within Ottoman rule.

This picture is food for thought but i do hope others don't take it out of CONTEXT into Conspiracy....

I hoped Armenia was properly represented in this Greater Turkiye after all Muslim Arabs left Armenians as they r just as Autonomous Arminiya(Armenia)with Emir who deals with preserving Treaties Muslims and Armenian Orthodox Christians had. I dont see a reasonable explanation to have rule over parts of Iran EXCEPT for the Republic of Azerbaijan+ Iranian Provinces West/East Azerbaijan, Ardabil, Zanjan should be Confederation of Azerbaijan.

Forget Arab States of whatever and have Kurdish Confederation of Syria-Iraq to be buffer. Fulfill the United Baath Republic from Iraq/Syria/Eastern part of Jordan, return Western part of Jordan to Palestine(which would have the Judica Kingdom of Isreal borders), Lebanon and Palestine work as Dual-Confederation. Confederation of Arabia(present-day  Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Hejaz Arabia{replaced Saudi with the previous name}, The name of Shiekhdoms in each region(UAE), Zaydi-Sunni Arab States(Yemen).

Egyptian State can't work without Sudan-South Sudan because Egypt's Natural resource(Water from the Nile) is what gave Egyptian pharaohs power over its own Empire which spanned over Sudan/S.S. which would make Ethiopia worried....since Ethiopia was a geopolitical natural opponent to Pharaohs of Egypt. u need to think of an Economic plan to have peace between regions.

from Libya needs to become a Confederation of States, not Confederative State(we don't need Spain-like govt) that would cause more ethnic conflict based on economics and Tunisia makes sense. Morocco needs social reform to allow for tolerance of different cultures of Muslims native there; Beber, Spanish, Arabic speakers. Algeria works out well like Tunisia. just make sure they don't want to annex Tunisia.

I don't think it a Good idea to have Eastern Europe within Turkiye's Administration Roles; its best to leave them out of Greater Turkiye, just have strong Economic/Military Peace Plan like NATO&EU but Turks have with Eastern Europe.(look at the link for understanding)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBGOPk…


in Central Asia as a WHOLE needs to be redrawn borders based on Public of Central Asian Natives of Votes/Censuses. Nation States based on Ethnicity and History of common communalism.


Finally, Balkans doesn't need to be part of Turkiye as much as it needs to have Balkan+Anatloia Economic/Military alliance policies. Maybe have Albania(assuming Kosovo is part of Albina), Bosnia as the same status as other Muslim regions in Asia.


so basically Most of the Muslim regions in ur map should be Protectorates of Turkiye while Armenia should be Autonomous.

unfortunately, we might have Turkiye enter mini-wars with other nations. The Western Europeans will oppose it, certain Nations which r within ur Turkiye model borders will not like it and u need to really on Good principles of Islamic History heavily from Prophet Muhammad to Great policies of co-existence from other Muslim rulers succeed on with Non-Muslims. it's going to be weird how Iran and this Greater Turkiye workout its stuff. Ottoman-Safavid wasn't pretty if i recall...

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hallo2222 [2017-08-17 09:07:10 +0000 UTC]

DEUS VULT

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grisador [2016-11-25 11:14:20 +0000 UTC]

EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC  EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC EPİC !!

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Vah-Vah In reply to grisador [2016-11-25 12:32:47 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad you liked it  

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grisador In reply to Vah-Vah [2016-12-03 15:33:42 +0000 UTC]

Of course ! Its very well made ! Awesome works you make

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PolandStronk [2016-11-24 21:39:34 +0000 UTC]

REMOVE KEBAB

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AvatarVyakara [2016-11-24 13:11:45 +0000 UTC]

Possibly nightmares...I don't honestly think we'd be better at governing than any of the modern folk, regardless of the centuries we spent there. But I guess that depends just how Greater Turkey is run, really.

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GammaEradon [2016-11-24 02:19:44 +0000 UTC]

Very nice!

I guess the map wasn't big enough to include Uighurstan/Xinyang/East Turkestan?

And while I know Tajikistan is technically not really a Turkic country, the same could be said of Azerbaijan. And since it's been associated with Turkish central Asia for so long anyway, I would've just tossed it in anyway. Also, there are Uzbek and Tajik populations in northern Afghanistan, including the panhandle.

Still awesome though.

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Vah-Vah In reply to GammaEradon [2016-11-24 11:12:38 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I know that this map not covered all the pan-Turkic ambitions. In fact, they extend to Russian Siberia. But it would be too.

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Spiritswriter123 In reply to GammaEradon [2016-11-24 03:00:58 +0000 UTC]

I have seen this map, I use this map from time to time, Uyghurstan is included in it (as is the whole world). It could be just they're ignorant about Uyghurstan being Turkic, I wouldn't exactly blame them if they didn't.

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Vah-Vah In reply to Spiritswriter123 [2016-11-24 11:14:27 +0000 UTC]

No, I know about him. Just did not consider it for inclusion in Turanian Sphere.

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Spiritswriter123 In reply to Vah-Vah [2016-11-24 17:46:33 +0000 UTC]

Ah, okay

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AlternateHistorian [2016-11-23 11:46:41 +0000 UTC]

I love this!!! Is it alright if I remake this? I'll give you credit.

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Vah-Vah In reply to AlternateHistorian [2016-11-23 13:39:24 +0000 UTC]

No, I do not mind с:

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AlternateHistorian In reply to Vah-Vah [2016-11-24 04:46:58 +0000 UTC]

Sweet!! I'll credit you.

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DinoSpain [2016-11-21 13:59:55 +0000 UTC]

Love such kind of maps.

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Vah-Vah In reply to DinoSpain [2016-11-21 14:09:32 +0000 UTC]

Thank you с:

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Arminius1871 [2016-11-21 12:36:18 +0000 UTC]

Even with Crimea as heartland^^

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Vah-Vah In reply to Arminius1871 [2016-11-21 13:07:04 +0000 UTC]

Turkey great again!
(and Cyprus, Tripolitania, Georgia and Bulgaria)

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Arminius1871 In reply to Vah-Vah [2016-11-21 13:33:15 +0000 UTC]

Hehe^^

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