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Gavin-The-Bunny [2016-03-16 14:07:59 +0000 UTC]
It's okay for British people to immigrate to other countries.
But not okay for people to immigrate to Britiain....?
I'm not British/English, so I won't stick my head into their views on immigration, but it's still worth mentioning.
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Galaxy-Fighter [2016-03-01 15:09:27 +0000 UTC]
I don't give a damn about the past. Immigrants are not welcomed in Britain. I'm racist? Good, but I prefer being called "Odinist".
If you wanna solve immigrant crisis, in order for them to live in peace in their own countries and to improve our economy or politics for them not to suffer, I'm all for it. Though, it's hard to tell what to do? It's not their fault that Western and Israel militaries is bombing them out of their homes with drones. The're victims,and majority probably means no harm. But I do not approve of their migration, mainly for my own good, and for their own too. If most of good Middle Eastern immigrants leave, what will happen to their motherland?
Maybe it's time to change our corrupted leaders.
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ReclusiveChicken [2015-08-15 06:07:55 +0000 UTC]
Yet another instance of reactionary fascism.
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bonecrusher56 [2014-08-03 06:33:11 +0000 UTC]
It was actually a THIRD. Not fourth
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ToaArcan [2014-07-28 02:10:31 +0000 UTC]
Well said. Farage is one of the few people who I would really, really like to punch in the face.
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ToaArcan In reply to Ddraigtanto [2015-01-12 01:31:52 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm not in possession of any weapons.
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Ddraigtanto In reply to ToaArcan [2015-01-12 01:34:12 +0000 UTC]
Well, yes. I suppose if you exposite some colourful language while you're doing it, I suppose that'll make up for it.
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Ddraigtanto In reply to ToaArcan [2015-01-12 02:00:45 +0000 UTC]
Alrighty then. Give 'em one for me.
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Alon98 [2014-07-26 03:13:51 +0000 UTC]
British Nationalists make me feel a little better about how fucked up the US is.
Well, at least they don't have people standing at the borders pointing guns at immigrant children, and many think it's OK to not give emergency service to non-English speakers because "Illegal aliens don't deserve our emergency service".
I think American nationalism is a lot worse, actually.
I hate this country.
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MissMuffinTop [2014-06-01 08:34:47 +0000 UTC]
Well, that's my ancestors for you; a bunch of hypocritical gits.
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mynameisWhite [2014-05-28 14:34:29 +0000 UTC]
A LONG, BORING, RAMBLING JOURNAL THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE TOO MUCH THINKING ON MY PART (because I'm a lazy writer) :
What i found interesting about the euro results is that the countries being carried are less likely to be euro sceptic compared with some of the countries that have similar standards to us.)
My thoughts on Why UKIP have not done as well in London with the locals and European elections compared with the rest of the UK:
1. By their own admission, less effort gone into winning London over (it may be easier to start on the outside and work your way in.)
2. (See link.) migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/…
Basically London is home to a large number of people who have come from elsewhere, or who's parents have,
so are more likely to relate and therefore sympathise with immigration and not have concerns about it. If they are newcomers or young, they don't have any "past" to compare things to.
3. London is basically a city of business and a relatively wealthy city.
(Business people like to for example be able to hire people from the EU and offer uncompetitive pay.)
In London among some groups in SOME areas there is a clear lack of integration. I picture London like a mirror that has smashed on the floor and is fragmented. (Some people stick to areas where people are "like them". This is a sad truth that I see with my own eyes, (but those that don't travel won't see it.) The wealthy can avoid the negative effects that immigration has in working class communities because they live in nicer areas and don't have to see it or put up with it.)
I am not a statistic, i have a brain and i am more than capable of forming my own opinions. I am a Londoner, (Lewisham,) female, under 25 and my dad originates from Morocco. I still voted for UKIP.
In 2012, nearing half of the UK’s foreign-born population were in London (36.6%).
I dont believe people from the EU should have right of way over other people from e.g. Japan, New Zeland, Australia, Africa.
The world population density is something i am also concerned about. More than 7 billion humans on planet earth and growing,
and the UK is leaning towards the more densely populated geographically and so called "green land" is taken up by farms. (scroll down on link) : www.worldometers.info/world-po…
I want those that come here to want to be a part of us, not just come to get something from us be it a job or whatever, or stick within some kind of what I call sub community - separate but next to everyone else.
I want integration (and I am not seeing anywhere near as much integrating as I'd like.) A reasonable understanding of English is important because it will help with integration. People should also have an understanding of Britain e.g. our laws, culture etc. because those may be different to theirs. And with some countries we need to take extra care because their policing and laws may be VERY different to our own.
I don't want to live in a densely populated country, this will effect quality of life for humans, animals and nature.
The more people there are the less we tend to care about e.g. space for livestock and the green belt. We either go outwards or upwards, and I certainly don't want to live in some sort of mega city. Therefore i want a modest number of people coming here. Those fantastic individuals that will lift us higher, not keep us plodding along or even drag our standards and communities down into a sort of depression. We can't afford to compromise our standards and quality of life, it would be the opposite of progress.
We must think: does Britain have the infrastructure and resources to deal with an influx of humans and how do services and schools cope? (e.g. You don't want to make a parent who has lived in an area all her life angry when she finds out her child has lost out on a primary school place to someone who's just turned up out of nowhere, not paid taxes or anything.)
Unfortunately many people, including myself, predicted there would be a problem with school places months before it was even mentioned in the papers. Its population increase VS new schools being built.
Overcrowding in schools is bad news for children.
One of many warning signs (see link) : www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic…
I believe in something similar to an x factor style system where we look for the more desirable candidates, not the mad bad singers in the first auditions.
There are so many people that could come here from inside and outside of the EU. So we need to think more carefully. We talk about what we hopes a minority = foreign criminals. Now, lets be fair, i have had experiences with these people, (sexual harassment, repeated littering, attempted thefts x2 and drugs related) and i ask myself: why do i have to put up with this? WHY do i have to put up with a bad person like that, when that person does not even have to be here in my home to upset me in the first place?
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There are other issues to do with the EU that I could talk about, but immigration is the one that keeps surfacing in the media and, like I say, lazy writer.
People talk about the cultural diversity of London as though culture is ALWAYS good and worth celebrating. Culture is a neutral word, lets be clear about that. Cultural heritage can be nice: dress, festivals, music, food etc. but it can be bad e.g. bull fighting.
Cultural practices can even be evil for example: FGM, force feeding daughters because a fat bride symbolises wealth, a place where its the cultural norm for fathers to "introduce" daughters to sex. This is abuse and unacceptable. So i want people to recognise when they talk about culture, that it can be a good thing or a bad thing.
People have different breeding habits. In the UK we are generally starting to be less selfish with the number of offspring we produce. We aren't doing that just so someone else can come along and push our population up. You either deal with population size sooner or later, and trust me it would be easier now. Look at China as the biggest example. They are now dealing with an ageing population, and guess what: its a BIG ageing population to be dealing with.
(In truth I think our whole ethos needs to change, but, I'd be going off topic with that.)
I saw homelessness in London go up for a while, despite Mayor Boris Johnston saying it was an absolute outrage that in the 21st century we still have so much homelessness. This was exacerbated by EU citizens and by the fact too many lower skilled people who didn't have much money came at once. It did not paint a happy picture!
Some people want to be treated with respect, they say the UK is not tolerant etc. For example, lets look at people that wear a burka. Now, if I as an adult female want to go outside topless (which is against Islam,) people call the police and i am basically sexually discriminated against. Because if they find my toplessness disturbing - then I will be forced to cover up and yet if i find people wearing the burka disturbing (and sometimes i do because I have concerns about the young being forced or pressured into wearing them. For communication, security, health and identity verification reasons, lack of integration, phobias etc.) there is nothing that anyone will do about that. But this is basically unfair.
Why is someone given more rights than myself to dress as THEY please, because of religion?
Breasts have the same skin tissue as man boobs. Native americans didn't go gaga over them, nor did people living in the rainforests, or tribes in Africa. Why? because they were used to seeing them and had not been brainwashed by the following: religion, history and law, film, music videos, literature, magazines, adverts, porn, gender stereotyping etc. .. breasts exist for the soul purpose of feeding helpless, innocent babies. Anyway... going off topic but I only want to accept fair minded people into the UK. NOT people that want one thing for them (freedom to dress as they please) and another for everyone else (females not being allowed to be topless.) Why would i respect ANYONE who doesn't respect me?
I made this point when talking to an ex friend, who is a Muslim, after we had watched a tv debate on the subject. She looked at me in disgust when she realised that I believe women should have the right to be topless, and I guess she chose her religion over our friendship in the end. She had started to practise religion more, (which I think was due to her wanting to settle down in life - family, kids etc.) But I have always been the way I am today. I have never changed. If you want to be treated in a fair way, then you should want to treat others in a fair way too, simple.
This is our home people are coming to. This is a place we built up over generations and its ignorance that makes people say "UKIP are a racist party" ..
Just because you had a racist in your family, does not make you a family of racists. (And at least UKIP tried to deal with this minority issue.) As Suzanne Evans pointed out when we were coming up to our elections: UKIP are growing and evolving at a difficult pace, and the amount of people that had been caught out behaving inappropriately was around 0.3% putting that into perspective in 2011 0.61% of members of parliament were in prison, UKIP are doing a lot better than MP's in the house of commons.
There are a lot of fake UKIP posters and lies about UKIP and what they will do flying around atm. and some of it is very convincing. But don't be fooled, if you really want to know UKIP, find out from a reliable source.
So, I have not really gone into any detail about UKIP, but that's because i find the opposition are still stuck on basics, that is, they think UKIP are racist, they say migration isn't a crime and that basically anyone should be allowed to come here (no matter the consequences.) And they really need to stop, because that argument is lost, the people have spoken and we need to move this debate forward.
UKIP ARE RIGHT TO WANT BETTER CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION.
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dashinvaine [2014-04-02 20:31:41 +0000 UTC]
So two wrongs make a right?
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Valendale In reply to dashinvaine [2014-04-02 22:14:11 +0000 UTC]
If you accept the proposition that it is somehow wrong for an immigrant to live in the UK.
Which it isn't.
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dashinvaine In reply to Valendale [2014-04-03 11:00:07 +0000 UTC]
Right and wrong are matters of opinion and debate. Is it right that Britain be deprived of its sovereignty, and rendered increasingly less British, against the wishes of the native Britons?
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Valendale In reply to dashinvaine [2014-04-04 08:15:30 +0000 UTC]
That's interesting, aren't you the one disagreeing with the sovereignty of UK immigration law?
Also what defines being British? If immigrants obtain citizenship and live on the Island of Britain how are they any less British than the grandsires of Norman invaders and Saxon barbarians and Roman colonizers?
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dashinvaine In reply to Valendale [2014-04-04 10:37:48 +0000 UTC]
What defines being British is being recognised and accepted as such by the majority of the British. Most white Britons have most of their DNA from the people who were here before the Romans, by the way...
news.nationalgeographic.com/ne…
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Valendale In reply to dashinvaine [2014-04-04 13:05:04 +0000 UTC]
That's an arbitrary criteria for what defines being British, it goes against the legal sovereignty of Britain as a nation, and you're in the minority the majority actually do recognize immigrants who obtain citizenship as citizens. Generically there's nothing unique or special about the British except maybe a predisposition to autism, possibly from centuries of inbreeding. The picts spread there genes all over northern europe btw, you could as easily say 30% of white germans are british if we're accepting that as criteria for being british.
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dashinvaine In reply to Valendale [2014-04-04 14:45:54 +0000 UTC]
We may be similar to the Germans, but we are distinct enough that we should have our own sovereign nations.
The widespread phenomenon of white flight from immigrant 'enriched' areas gives the lie to your suggestion that native Briton by and large accept these newcomers as their fellow nationals. (Actions speak louder than words).
As for 'arbitrary criteria', you seem to know what Britons are when you want to accuse us of having a questionable historical legacy, so spare me your cheap critical theory. As for inbreeding, it is silly to use such a term when you are talking about a millions-strong population. The term is better applied to the Muslim immigrants known for bringing over their cousins from remote villages in Pakistan for arranged marriages!
The idea that mass immigration improves our genetic stock is ludicrous:
He [Prof Steve Jones] added: “Bradford is very inbred. There is a huge amount of cousins marrying each other there.” Research in Bradford has found that babies born to Pakistani women are twice as likely to die in their first year as babies born to white mothers, with genetic problems linked to inbreeding identified as a “significant” cause.
www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/ha…
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Valendale In reply to dashinvaine [2014-04-05 15:33:44 +0000 UTC]
No I'm sorry but the genetic history of Brittanic peoples is nearly global, the Brittanic tribes spread their seed all over europe and even into the middle east and africa long before the Romans even set out to conquer Gaul. Then when Rome finally did conquer Brittania the people they conquered were absorbed into the empire and spread throughout it, not to mention waves of Roman colonists spread across Britain. The pict uprising that sought to drive out the colonists was broken, and after that the Saxons who were of Germanic origin invaded, then the Normans invaded, and by the age of British imperialism the British were stamping their boots and loins on anyone they could sail to. By your standard of what makes people British, people all across the globe have claim. You have no more claim than the next bloke who happens to have British heritage, and I've got news for you, a lot of the people with British heritage aren't white.
"The widespread phenomenon of white flight"
Is mostly driven by socioeconomic factors on all ends of the spectrum. The nasty tones of racism may be a relevant factor but they're far from the predominate factor, the real crawl is that when immigrants flood into an area there's more competition for employment and capitalists increase their rate of exploitation, and rates of poverty and unemployment increase. Add to this that many immigrants come from poorer countries, and you get poverty culture which is only profitable for capitalist exploiters. So instead of blaming brown people maybe you should seek to redress the socioeconomic system that is truly at the heart of the problem.
However the vast majority of British do in fact accept immigrants, right wing white racist reactionaries like yourself are in the minority.
"As for 'arbitrary criteria', you seem to know what Britons are"
Yeah, Britons are people who live on an Island call Britain.
"As for inbreeding, it is silly to use such a term when you are talking about a millions-strong population."
Of provincial peasants who used to marry first cousins, and the royals and nobles used to marry siblings. The rates of autism may have nothing to do with that, but it's a strong possibility.
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dashinvaine In reply to Valendale [2014-04-05 16:51:47 +0000 UTC]
I don't know where you are getting this from, but it sounds highly unlikely.
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Valendale In reply to dashinvaine [2014-04-06 18:16:24 +0000 UTC]
I'm not even sure what you're calling unlikely so there's no point in responding.
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revilnemesis3 [2014-03-22 16:04:00 +0000 UTC]
And I thought the US was the only place with this problem.
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Sakeson [2014-02-25 20:20:00 +0000 UTC]
Colonization is never good. Difference is that the countries that the British colonized and captured are mainly left. Not all - and that is of course a horrible crime. But is the answer swarming Britain with immigrants and which in the long run will have the native population to become a minority? I think not.
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squidwardfan101 In reply to Sakeson [2015-12-17 01:12:08 +0000 UTC]
At least those immigrants aren't stealing food from English people, at least there's no Muslim Charles Trevelyan demanding free trade yet sending government troops to stop English people from getting back the food that they produced and is now being sold overseas, at least there isn't a government genocide against the English, with cover-ups and faux aid that doesn't help all around! That's what England did to Ireland!
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Ed2584 [2014-02-03 21:28:06 +0000 UTC]
same thing with usa
rednecks complain about so called immigrants when they are immigrants themselfes.
bastard sons of europe and other bunch
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willcraft [2013-12-08 23:27:37 +0000 UTC]
In all fairness, whn they asked us to leave we eventually did. (I am not anti-immigration, I just thought that this should be mentioned)
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squidwardfan101 In reply to willcraft [2015-12-17 01:12:48 +0000 UTC]
No, Ireland and India had to fight for a long time for independence! The U.S did too!
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Juho-Lee In reply to willcraft [2013-12-26 11:07:12 +0000 UTC]
That was probably because the British government could not afford to stay there.
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LordElthibar [2013-12-06 15:49:04 +0000 UTC]
Hey I know what Britain did and how my people were affected as well, no harm done.
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HornedSheep [2013-11-29 02:56:57 +0000 UTC]
Aww shit, man. I wanted to live there.
Oh well, now I need to look for another country to infest and learn another language.
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Miss-Shiki-Scarlet [2013-11-28 14:13:00 +0000 UTC]
I really hate the media bombarding people with "Immigrants immigrants, migraints, immgrantion!" non stop.
It has and always will be a distraction from legit social issues, turning people towards scapegoats instead. Sadly the next UK election will be fought on immigration rather than the suffering of the unemployed, disabled and working class people that have been hammered by the tory government.
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kolotho115 In reply to Miss-Shiki-Scarlet [2013-12-05 08:31:04 +0000 UTC]
british news = We Don't know what to complain about so we'll pick on the new people
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