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Published: 2009-07-13 17:18:48 +0000 UTC; Views: 1664; Favourites: 85; Downloads: 0
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my first foray into b/w conversions
suggested by ~jumparoundjon
same picture as [link]
feedback greatly appreciated! which version is better in your opinion?
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da, intre timp am ramas cu versiunea asta, nici nu ma mai uit la cea color
multumesc frumos
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oh! thank you for the honour!
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lovely deep black and white / maybe a bit dark but darkness adds to atmosphere here
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thanks for the heads-up!
i'm not sure about the "darkness issue", it seems to have details everywhere on my monitor, but i've heard it elsewhere too! did you mean overall dark or just some areas?
In your gallery I have found many great architectural b/w shots. I will take a tip or two from your black and white conversions to improve
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I want to say that your black and white can be better maybe with more brigth area - there is more dark part than bright part for now. But it's great as is
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i understand what you mean now
thanks for taking the time to comment
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I love this one. I have a huge thing with black and white photographs and this is by far one of the best i have seen. The buildings and clouds are so... beautiful. It gives it an abondoned and eerie look, if people werent there then it would look absolutely abondoned. Its totally breath taking for me. Good work.
xx
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thank you, i'm glad i managed to convey an atmosphere!
i didn't know what to do with the people, clone them out or not, but i left them there for a sense of magnitude. i don't know if it the right thing?
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Your welcome.
The people actually look fine. To me it looks like they are leaving their past behind and are going to make a new start to life. I rekon it would have looked better with them in it than with them not in it.
xx
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just what i was looking for
thanks for stopping by!
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Thats good.
Your welcome.
xx
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Thanks for the shout, Mihai! I like it better in mono than in colour, although the hdr does make the mono a bit heavy and dark.
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might have exaggerated a bit in tonal conversion...but i ended up with two versions, of which i liked the contrasty variant more. Especially the clouds are better represented. Maybe i should do a combination of the 2 versions 
b/w is starting to grow on me as well
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I think a lot of this comes down to personal preferences.
For me, one of the things I dislike about hdr is that the range of contrast is sometimes over-exaggerated. I know hdr is about creating a greater range of tones and contrasts, but I feel it's often over-done and looks false. When this happens, it's nearly always the skies that look unreal, with huge contrasts.
There's a really thin line, for me, between using hdr to boost the avialable tones and contrasts, and creating a Frankenstein's monster of garish colours and highlights and shadows.
And that's the issue: some people love the "exaggerated hdr" and some, like me, don't care too much for it. I think you are a real hdr lover, and so you will, of course, prefer the mono version that looks more like the hdr original. I prefer more naturalistic-looking images, so I will tend to prefer something closer to what the camera, and the eye, actually visualised!
Of course, the best thing of all is that we can have such different views and preferences, but still respect and enjoy each other's work!
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I totally agree with your opinions.
I believe I tend to go with the "eye-catchers" most of the time. That's what I look for first in a picture...basically that its elements work together to please the eye.
I suppose that target can be achieved with both hdr and non-hdr images. Surely, sometimes hdr can stray away from photography, into the surreal-look realm that verges on "love it or hate it", but I guess either way is ok if it brings something to the table.
The raw shot of this scene looked hopelessly flat and of course held no details whatsoever in the sky. With that impression in mind, I started looking for numerous ways to increase the contrast, which was the main problem. I'm guessing it basically comes down to this, as, after much consideration, I decided I like the "punchier" look, especially as I'm attracted to many "heavy" black-and-white photos that I've seen here on dA.
That is to say, I was afraid to reduce contrast as I saw it basically removed texture "sharpness" on the left walls and the ground.
Either way, there's quite a big difference between what the eye saw, and what the camera saw...
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Excellent! We disagree respectfully, but totally understand each other's opinions and preferences. Ideal!
I must also say, Mihai, that your English is of the highest quality: much better than most English people. And I'm sad to say that I have no Romanian...
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Indeed, there is plenty of "artistic" space to encompass all sorts of preferences and opinions! You never know when one could switch sides
Thank you for the compliment, it's a valuable assessment coming from a native speaker! Don't worry about our language. No one speaks it anyway
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