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Virus-91 — DBZ PWNAGE: Cell vs. Broly
Published: 2011-04-27 22:21:31 +0000 UTC; Views: 24352; Favourites: 180; Downloads: 10
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This is my answer to all of the claims of Broly being the most powerful DBZ villain. Sorry folks, but Broly was taken out by a normal SSJ Goku who absorbed some ki from his half dead friends. That doesn't really equate to him being the most powerful character. Broly is easily the most overrated character in Dragonball history and I've grown to hate him for these reasons. That and his motivation for being evil is INCREDIBLY lame. "Oh, Kakarot made me cry! I'mma be evil noaw!"I'll probably get some crap for this considering how insanely large Broly's fanbase is. But I don't care. My opinion and there's no changing it.
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Looking at this now, it’s almost laughable because of how badly the ‘canon’ version of Broly would wreck Cell’s shit.. but that glaring fact aside, this pic is well done and still one of my all time favorites, great job~!
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Well I don't think he's that weak anymore now that the New Broly Movie is coming out.
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I love broly but damn this artwork is awesome (and BRUTAL !) fave
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That's cool. Cell ripping Broly's throat.... wow. So awesome.
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Cool Both Of My Favorie Villians In One Picture I Prefer Cell Over Brolly But I Believe Movie 10 Brolly Can Possibly Slightly Maybe Defeat Super Perfect Cell Yeah Cell Is Stronger Due To Speed Smarts And Techniques But Brolly Isn't Weak Either He Is Powerful In Strength Energy But Brolly Isn't Slow Either You See The Legendary Super Saiyajin Form Is A Upgraded Form Of The Super Saiyajin Transformation Which Upgrades His Ki ,Strength And Especially His Speed But Cell Is Faster Due To Instantaneous Movement It's A Close Fight But I Would Choose Cell Over Brolly If You Wanna Say Brolly Wouldn't Even Stand A Chance Just Click This Link To This Video Down Below It Will Show You Who Would Win
www.youtube.com/watch?v=utow9g…
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Villains certifiably stronger than Broly
* Super Perfect Cell(except maybe M10 Broly w/zenkai boosts). Heck, Perfect Cell could probably give him a run for his money
* Dabura(since he's as powerful as Cell)
* Majin Buu(I've calculated that even the Fat Buu must be as strong as 3 or more Cells, and thus 4 or more Brolys)
* Beerus-Without question. Even if M10 Broly went SSJ3, it wouldn't be enough to even reach 10% of Beerus' might
And no Brolytards, Broly's power does not continually increase. It keeps swelling until it threatens to destroy him, unless he discharges it. He's supposed to be the Legendary Super Saiyan, and that's just as the myth was described.
Saiyan Saga Vegeta=15 Raditzs
Captain Ginyu=Over 6 Saiyan Saga Vegetas
First Form Frieza=Over 4 Ginyus
Final Form Frieza=Over 200 First Form Friezas
The Androids=Over 3 Friezas
Imperfect Cell is around an Android or two
Perfect Cell=8 Imperfect Cells
Super Perfect Cell/Dabura-1.5 Perfect Cells
Fat Buu=4 Daburas/Super Perfect Cells
Kid Buu=1.5 Fat Buus
Super Buu=A couple Fat Buus
Beerus
Whis=1.5 Beerus
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Broly >>> Cell
Broly is stronger than Dabura as well but his spit would probably fuck Broly up
Confirmed at minimum multi solar-system buster Broly vs probable solar-system buster Cell
Broly overpowered MSSJ Buu Saga Goku, MSSJ Adolescent Gohan & SSJ Goten with absolute ease
SSJ2 is only a x 2 multiplier according to the Daizenshuu
MSSJ Buu Saga Goku + MSSJ Adolescent Gohan + SSJ Goten > Teen SSJ2 Gohan >>> Injured Teen SSJ2 Gohan with one arm > Cell
You're making a mistake by comparing the fighters they fought, the movies happen in an alternate universe (confirmed by Toriyama) where the characters powers don't match up with the powers of the canon warriors and the characters also seem far more powerful
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Except the goku, gohan from the broly movies WEREN'T from the buu saga. Goku from the first broly movie was likely around cell saga in strength. Gohan from the second movie hadn't obtained mystic saiyan, so it would be WT saga gohan, not buu saga. As for goten, the only way goten could do some actual damage to buu was by fusing with trunks to create gotenks, on his own he is but a speck, so overpowering goten by ones self is NO special feat for broly.
For the record, you are aware that brolly's LSSJ transformation isn't even on par with SSJ2, right? In fact its just below SSJ2 in strength, yet just above SSJ1 rank 3, so no, broly wouldn't be able to best cell, it took gohan gaining SSJ2 (which i remind you AGAIN is stronger than LSSJ) to defeat cell. Really, as awesome as it looks, LSSJ is really just a glorified ascended super saiyan transformation, like "super" vegeta.
Plus, keep in mind that if this is super perfect cell we are talking about, broly wouldn't stand a chance, as super perfect cell is on par, if not a little bit stronger than, SSJ2 gohan. (whom is already stronger than broly as is, and NO, the gohan from the first broly movie didn't yet have SSJ2). The only chance broly would have is if he was fighting normal perfect cell, and even then the fight would be difficult for him.
Oh, and btw, not ALL the movies are in an alternate universe, the two most recent movies, Battle of Gods and Ressurection of F are both cannon to the MAIN dbz universe.
*sigh*
At least you're not one of those broly fanboys who treats broly like he is an unstoppable god of destruction, when he isn't even close.
There is only one person who holds the title of god of destruction, and that is beerus.
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It was before the World Martial Arts tournament and before Buu was revived, but Gohan was 16 and was knew Videl when Broly woke up. It was probably a few weeks before Goku came to the World Martial Arts tournament at best, Goku was still Buu-Saga level. Broly's LSSJ transformation isn't on par with SSJ2? Do you have any definitive proof? The movie showed us Broly toying with SSJ2 Gohan with Gohan only able to faze him. Your opinion is not fact.
The official multiplier for SSJ2 is two times that of an SSJ1. MSSJ Buu-Saga Goku is probably comparable if not stronger than SSJ2 Adolescent Gohan, Broly had no power overpowering him along with MSSJ Gohan and Goten whatsoever. You saying "he's stronger because" doesn't actually prove shit. Broly overpowering the Family KameHameHa shits on anything Cell has done. Broly is above SPC but under Majin Buu.
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And you seem to have forgotten that, due to his lack of training, gohan's SSJ2 form was actually weaker as a young adult than as a boy. You can't judge the SSJ2 power level as a whole based on one version of SSJ2 used by ONE fighter at ONE point in time. Because he never kept up his training, young adult gohan's SSJ2 is NOT an accurate representation of the full power of the SSJ2 form, thus making any comparisons made to LSSJ inaccurate due to the loss in power of gohans SSJ2 form, YOU MUST ACCOUNT FOR THIS, NOT DOING SO IS INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST.
I'm well aware that SSJ2 is two times that of SSJ1, however that stat has no bearing on LSSJ, which, again, is really more of an enhanced SSJ1, its... not as powerful as you think it is. Because LSSJ is nothing more than a glorified form of plain old SSJ1, its accurate to place it BELOW SSJ2 in power ratings, and thus the statement that super perfect cell is stronger than broly is in itself correct because super perfect cell is as strong as, if not stronger than SSJ2 gohan was during the cell games, gohan only won that beam struggle because Vegeta interfered, distracting cell long enough for gohan to find the opening he needed. What movie were you watching, Broly DID NOT overpower the family kamehameha, thats what ended up killing him, remember? If broly HAD overpowered the family kamehameha, gohan and goten would be dead. (goku was already dead to begin with)
Again, the goku from the FIRST broly movie WASN'T the buu saga goku, he was, more or less, goku as he was coming out of the android saga, just before the cell ssaga, and the goku from the second movie didn't even have an active roll in the fight aside from the family kamehameha and as such his power at that point can not be DEFINITIVELY judged or measured, considering that for all intents and purposes, he was a ghost, a spirit. That and the fact that he was only there due to a wish goten made on the dragon balls in the last moment.
Lastly, why are you even trying to use info from "Broly: Second Comming" as evidence? That movie (despite having decent enough fight scenes) is one of the worst in the dragonball z movie lineup, and one that, if you think about it, should logically have never happened. There was no logical way broly could've escaped comet camori since, despite apparently being able to escape in a saiyan pod, there were NO other saiyan pods seen on the planet, the only one that was seen belonged to paragus, but was crushed beyond repair/blown up by broly.
Just face it, broly isn't as strong as you think. Don't get me wrong, broly is no weakling, but he is no titan of destruction either, especially since at least half (if not more) of all the villains in DBZ could easily defeat him. Really the only main villains (not counting nappa, raditz, or the ginyu force, they served under the main baddies) i can see broly reliably defeating are Frieza, King Cold, and Cooler.
BTW, where are you getting MSSJ goku from? The only Z Fighter to obtain Mystic SSJ was gohan, and NO ONE ELSE.
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How much weaker do you think Gohan was? Gohan was damaged and had one arm when he managed to overpower SPC, I don't think a fully powered adolescent SSJ2 Gohan is that much weaker. Nobody knows what the LSSJ multiplier is, but I doubt it's going to be 1.5 or some shit. Broly was casually overpowering the KHH until Trunks pulled the nullifying-bullshit ki blast from LaLa land. I was talking about the Goku from second coming. His power is assumed to be identical to Buu Saga Goku, stop saying that it can't be definitively measured. Unless you think Goku somehow got 50% stronger in those few weeks that lead up to the World Martial Arts tournament. He played the biggest part in the KameHameHa since he was easily the strongest out of the family.
Why am I using info from second coming? Because that's when Broly was at his strongest lol? What has Broly escaping the planet got to do with his power? Are you just going to disregard the existence of the movie now because it suits your argument better lol?
Stop enforcing your opinion on others because you have no arguments to make, I don't give a shit how strong you THINK Broly is. If you want to prove he's weaker than Cell, prove it via factual evidence. Broly would merk anybody during or before the Cell saga.
MSSJ = Maximum Super Saiyan dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Supe…
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Okay, now you're just resorting to excuses. Adolescent SSJ2 gohan is STILL weaker than teen SSJ2, that fact in itself is set in stone. In face, the DB wiki itself says that, despite the fact that LSSJ broly did over power ssj2 gohan, it was in part due to "Gohan's lack of training that made him noticeably weaker up to that point" . Yes, i agree we don't know EXACTLY what the power multiplier of LSSJ is, but we can estimate it based on evidence and what we DO know about other saiyan forms, and its not 2.5 either.
That weak shot that trunks made had no bearing in the fight outcome and you know it, broly didn't even flinch when it hit him, much less get distracted by it. Where as cell WAS visibly distracted by Vegeta's attack, thus the outcome of that beam struggle CAN be attributed to vegeta. That would be factually incorrect as the goku from second coming is DEAD and has been since the end of the CELL SAGA, that is a pretty big margin of error, much too big to make a definitive guess, much less measurement. Adding to this problem is the fact that goku WASN'T EVEN PRESENT until the VERY END of the fight, and you know as well as i that a beam struggle is NOT indicative of goku's power at that time.
The reason i disregard the existence of the events of "broly: second coming" is because said events don't have any grounding in logic or in the events of the first broly movie, there just wasn't enough info from the first movie to defintively say that broly had indeed surivived. And because broly: second coming is a move that shouldn't exist due to flaws in its logic and story, it's essentially worthless as evidence. The only broly movie that i consider a good choice for evidence would be the first and ONLY the first one.
You just gave me evidence that supports my claim, thanks. Now, Maximum SSJ, going by what the web page says, isn't a separate form but rather just base SSJ at full power, and is therefor usually refererred to as super saiyan. MSSJ isn't anywhere near as strong as SSJ2 or 3, much like LSSJ, it's nothing special, just a more refined SSJ. Meaning it really isn't a good indicator for the power level of the saiyan characters. So broly was able to overpower mssj goku, so what? Unless you forgot, perfect cell was able to overpower MSSJ as well as defeat Second grade SSJ vegeta AND third grade SSJ trunks quite easily, it wasn't untill gohan gained SSJ2 that cell actually had to start fighting with his full power just to keep up. So, if perfect cell was EASILY able to overpower MSSJ and SSJ grade 2/3, and LSSJ is often placed just above SSJ grade 3 but BELOW SSJ2, then Perfect Cell and ESPECIALLY Super Perfect Cell would have no trouble in dealing with broly.
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Wiki isn't really a reliable source though is it?
"That weak shot that Trunks made had no bearing"
Absolute bullshit, he was overpowering them until Trunks pulled out his Shazam magic. Stop bullshitting me. He was overpowering them. Trunks effect on the Family KHH was FAR greater than Vegeta's effect on the Father-Son KHH. Goku not being present until the very end of the fight makes it only more impressive as Goku is at his full power.
What the hell do Broly's survival circumstances have to do with his power?
" because second coming is a move that shouldn't exist due to flaws in its logic and story, it's essentially worthless as evidence"
Disregarding evidence because it suits your argument better is pretty sad. Second Coming does in fact exist and it is Broly at his pinnacle of power, said by Toriyama himself. Just because the movie has plotholes doesn't mean you can disregard it, stop being a bellend.
SSJ and MSSJ both have the same power, it's the same thing lol, I never said it was anything other than that. Cell was able to overpower MSSJ Goku? Too bad Buu Saga MSSJ Goku >>>>>>> Cell Saga MSSJ Goku yes? lol
LSSJ is often placed just above SSJ Grade 3? Lol proof? He was one-shotting those characters easier than Cell would have done in his weaker incarnation.
Matter of fact is, Broly dismantling a Galaxy over the course of 3 decades, fighting Z Fighters who are stronger than their canon counterparts and overpowering a KameHameHa that Cell wouldn't have a chance against easily gives Broly the win.
If you include Filler, Cell got merked by Pikkon who lost to MSSJ Goku. Daizenshuu 7 states that SSJ Broly is stronger than MSSJ Goku. And it can be applied directly to Broly because Pikkon was mentioned at the end of Bio-Broly
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www.fictionalbattleomniverse.c…
Too bad Hasoltd left because he knew you were right, Magshi.
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Broly's between Perfect and Super Perfect Cell
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I fucking HATE Brolly, god he sucks!! He's the worst character in this series, Yamcha has more personality than him!
And what's great about this, is that Cell is my fave villain~ Go Cell, go!
Look at all these butthurt Brollytards lmao
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Based on the time, I thought they were about the same strength. Though even then, Cell's intelligence and healing factor would give him the edge
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Would be grateful if you had the drawing where you'd have to click to view.
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Considering the facts given in the movie, Broly is easily stronger than Cell... and, given time, everyone else... after all, according to the official canon, he survived both movies he appears in and went on the achieve higher forms... but the style of your artwork is quite impressive regardless of all that.
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Not if this is super perfect cell.
LSSJ is actually below SSJ2 in power, its really just a glorified ascended state, like "super" vegeta, and we know very well
that Cell has had no trouble defeating ascended vegeta AND trunks. Not only that but Super Perfect Cell is just as strong
as SSJ2 Gohan, if not a bit stronger, and would've defeated gohan if vegeta hadn't stepped in at the last moment.
Sorry, but broly wouldn't stand much of a chance.
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I know it's below SSJ2. However, his power never stops growing in that form. On top of that, he doesn't have the decreased speed that Ascended Vegeta and Trunks had to deal with. So, he'd be able to keep up with Cell, unlike Trunks and Vegeta. Therefore, he would more than likely annihilate Cell entirely in the first place and Cell wouldn't ever have a chance to put his saiyan cells to use and get the power boost after he regenerated because there'd be nothing left to regenerate in the first place. He'd never become Super Perfect Cell. He'd just he waylaid out of the gate.
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Cell the Perfect Villain destroyed overrated crybaby
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just because super perfect cell is stronger than lssj broly it means power levels are bullshit in the first move broly was stronger than perfect cell because broly took a point blank super kamehameha and didnt get a scratch compare that to perfect cell half his body was destroyed so broly is stronger than perfect cell in the first movie but in the second movie broly is stronger than super perfect cell because of all saiyans including broly can have zenkai boosts so i dont care if cell killed broly its accurate super perfect cell is stronger than lssj broly in the first movie but not in the second movie and im just a broly fan not a fanboy so i do not care
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Broly easily destroyed a galaxy at the start of the first movie and survived a planet busting attack when he was a baby while Goku and Vegeta wet their pants when somebody threatens to destroy the planet
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lol, broly didn't destroy the south galaxy, that was a translation error. And even if he did that would be incredibly inconsistent seeing as though the movie took place in the south galaxy.
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Oh sorry. Stupid mistranslation.
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Really Broly isn't that great
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In you forgotten, Cell didn't use his full power against Goku. Also M8 Goku is weaker than Cell Games Goku. M10 Broly only fought a weaken SS Gohan (not SS2, because no lighting.)
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well you forgot gohan was a ssj2 in movie 10 because you didn't see the extra bang and when gohan first went ssj2 aganist cell he did had the electricty but i watched the fight over and gohan didn't have the electricty sometimes the super saiyan doesn't even have the aura just look at ssj3 goku vs kid buu in the fight you might see the aura when goku turns ssj3 but the rest of the fight you don't see electricty or an aura also so they either forgot the electricty or gohan was a ssj2 but didn't had the electricty so your argument is invalid
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He still wasn't a SSJ2 in M10.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlhRT0…
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gohan was a ssj2 in m10 why would you gohan go ssj to fight lssj broly if broly is stronger than gohan you would have to be like a ssj2 to inflict damage and how the hell would gohan inflict damage on broly if gohan was weaker than broly he would be a ssj2 to even hurt broly and if you come up with a stupid excuse gohan wasn't a ssj2 i will get a damn hammer wd40 and i will take you out back and kick your ass
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Gohan didn't went SS2 except when Goku's spirit yelled out "Together". That's how Gohan and Goten overpower Broly. And wow, are you acting like a little child all because that video debunk everything you said? Is that why you're threatening me? Word of advise: grow up.
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oh your telling me to grow up big talk coming from a stupid worthless bitch and no i didn't watch the video because it seems stupid and don't you say another word why gohan wasn't a ssj2 but in respect in serbia you know what we call you people a peder it means faggot and i shall prove your ass wrong
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKZs3S…
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Now, throwing insults? How old are you, five? I don't think I need to debate with an immature and insensitive Broly fan who can't act his age.
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no i'm ignoring you bitch leave me alone m'kay
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just one more thing burn in hell thank you goodbye your welcome
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who are calling five im 16 years old i am acting my age and really immature and insensitive are you even a dragon ball fan or you just do this for shits and giggles just to piss people off you know what forget it the next thing i need to hear is you saying im a worthless piece of shit fuck it this is what it think of you LOSER YOU'RE A LOSER ARE YOU FEELING SORRY FOR YOUR SELF WELL YOU SHOULD YOUR DIRT YOU MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH BABY WANT A BOTTLE A BIG DIRT BOTTLE!
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