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That old Noldorin Height Chart take 2!

I've been drawing a lot of full body pieces for the color palette challenge, so I compiled them into this handy-dandy chart. (Hence the semi-random selection of characters...) In order, from left to right:

Turgon, Argon, Elrond, Maglor, Maedhros, Fëanor, Eöl, , Elwë, Luthíen, Dior, Curufin, and Celegorm.

Please note that some characters' heights don't appear exact because they are slouching/crouching/wearing high heels. (Thanks, Celegorm.)

Thingol, Argon, Turgon, and Maedhros' heights are mostly canonical, especially in terms of height order, though exact heights are so-so. Luthien's and Dior's are extrapolated based off of Thingol's and the dilution of his blood, Elrond's is a middling one based off of the Numenoreans, and the Feanorians are pretty much a mix of extrapolation, estimates, and headcanons. (For serious discussion and actual references of most of this, see the Noldorin Height Chart linked above).

Someone commented yesterday that for Tolkien, height seems directly proportional to nobility. This seems very true (ref above, the noble Elendil is stated to be a whopping 7'11" where most Numenoreans topped out at 7'), but it seems to be generally the case that his races/peoples in general decreased in height through the Ages. (Hmm...six foot tall dwarves? lol)

Original art is here: Turgon&Argon     Elrond     Maglor&Maedhros     Feanor     Eol&Thingol    OC     Luthien     Dior&Curufin    Celegorm
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Comments: 7

Alberto183 [2020-11-17 21:30:51 +0000 UTC]

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Baileyboybee [2018-10-03 15:56:53 +0000 UTC]

Love your characterizations of all of them. Great job.

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welcometolotr In reply to Baileyboybee [2018-11-30 17:57:58 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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StarvedSkull [2015-11-15 18:55:53 +0000 UTC]

Luthien is 8 feet tall? (if she's that big, she probably towers over Beren) I thought Galadriel was supposed to be the tallest of all elf women clocking at about 6'4", unless that statement refers to elves of the third and fourth age (except she was born during the years of the trees and is also of the Noldor, probably the tallest race in all of arda). I guess that'd make sense considering that Melian (who I don't know the height but I can assume ginormous) and Thingol/Elwe (9 feet) are both giants. What is canon anymore? Yeesh.

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welcometolotr In reply to StarvedSkull [2015-11-16 00:31:53 +0000 UTC]

That's just me estimating, but yes. With the tallest elf ever as her dad and a maia as a mother, I'd imagine that she's quite tall, but also has a measure of control over her physical form since she's half maiar. (hence the hair-growing episode). This means that yes, normally she's much taller than Beren, but she can shrink to match I think he was supposed to be quite tall himself, but obviously MUCH shorter than her, haha.

Tolkien wrote that Galadriel was...
1) 6'4" (Unfinished Tales, Appendix, Numenorean Linear Measures),
2) "tall beyond the measure even of the women of the Noldor" (UT:History of Galadriel & Celeborn), and
3) (of Galadriel and Celeborn) 'Very tall they were, and the Lady no less tall than the Lord;...' (LoTR)
4) and of Elves in general, "even their women were seldom less than six feet in height" (reader's companion)
Most of these were published at different times and it's believable that he didn't remember exactly what he'd written previously (and also that he'd changed his mind). For a good discussion: www.thetolkienforum.com/index.…

Basically, it's pretty hard to believe that Galadriel and Celeborn are BOTH around 6'4", when most elven women were at LEAST 6' and Numenoreans - humans with only a tiny bit of Eldarin blood - averaged around 7'. Either G&C were SUPER short - disproved by the "tallest of all elven women" line - or they were NOT 6'4". Most likely: none of this information can be taken as absolutely accurate and thus you are free to use any of it how you want Tolkien's canon contradicts itself so much that it's fine to run with what you like!

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AnnabethLovegd [2015-07-29 22:27:43 +0000 UTC]

This is great ^_^

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welcometolotr In reply to AnnabethLovegd [2015-07-30 00:20:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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