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Published: 2013-05-05 20:46:25 +0000 UTC; Views: 685; Favourites: 21; Downloads: 0
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Description I asked before if I should make a natural breed and I thought it would be better to show you my idea
So ya can tell me better if yes or not.
If not I will make a character out of this. c:
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Comments: 44

MoonyArsaraidh [2013-07-22 18:15:58 +0000 UTC]

Sieht vielversprechend aus. Wäre gespannt, wenn du ne Rasse dras machst, was für eine es wird

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KIING-LACURA [2013-05-17 21:01:37 +0000 UTC]

you must ;O its so pretty

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Kysan [2013-05-11 09:20:49 +0000 UTC]

erinnert mich n bissel an ein kräftigere EDH :3
ich würd auch einen wollen :4

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saphiraly [2013-05-06 04:57:48 +0000 UTC]

So schön^^

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Bekkish [2013-05-05 23:09:57 +0000 UTC]

I would defo want one

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Bekkish [2013-05-05 23:09:40 +0000 UTC]

It looks like a fresian cross a draft horse :3

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to Bekkish [2013-05-06 03:28:46 +0000 UTC]

I don't like fresians 'XD
They are a cross of P.R.E, Mustang and a draft breed c:

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xValkyrja [2013-05-05 22:51:32 +0000 UTC]

It seems to me to be very much like a mix of a pony, a draft and something more baroque. From the sketch and from the information I've gleaned from the comments, it doesn't seem very much like it would be useful as a heavy sport horse. With a neck that thick, it would have a difficult time balancing over jumps and the legs seem a bit short to be elegant or effective for dressage. And for cross-country, something that heavy would never really be practical. From what I'm seeing, it seems like this particular horse would be more useful as a carriage horse, pack animal, children's pony or something ridden recreationally and not expected to reach higher levels.
For a sport horse, even a heavier one, it would need to be leggier with a relatively short back, thinner neck and either without feathers or with very few. Even the heavier sport horses such as the Gronigen or Gelderlander look a lot less 'drafty' than this horse.

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to xValkyrja [2013-05-06 03:35:15 +0000 UTC]

they don't have a pony inside XD there very tall XD

because the back legs are a little bit shorter and because of there short back it's easy to gather this horse. P.R.E have a short back too and don't long legs as the most dressage horses too.

Every horse can do everything if ya do it right.

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xValkyrja In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-06 03:46:52 +0000 UTC]

But not every horse will excel at it. That's why you would be very hard-pressed indeed to find quarter horse who can pose a legitimate threat in grand-prix competition to say, a warmblood or a thoroughbred where this is more likely.

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to xValkyrja [2013-05-06 12:17:18 +0000 UTC]

If the rider teach it right they will learn c:
Horses don't have to join the grand-prix, professional rider see ther horses as a thing. They have to much ambition. If someone train a horse there should never be ambition. c:

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xValkyrja In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-06 18:12:25 +0000 UTC]

Some things are beyond the rider or trainer's ability to teach the horse. If it is not physically possible for the horse, he will not get there, no matter how hard he tries or how amazing the trainer or rider is.

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to xValkyrja [2013-05-06 19:27:12 +0000 UTC]

Baroque horses can jump too ect.

My breed would be sporthorses, they don't have short legs, the back is'n to short ect.

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xValkyrja In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-06 19:44:35 +0000 UTC]

Also, I was reading some of the other comments and read that they're a mix of a PRE, mustang and draft. It's a neat mix, but that would be a pretty heavy horse unless you introduced something like an Arab, TB or Trakehner to lighten it up. All those breeds can jump, but I really think introducing draft blood would make it too heavy to get over anything over three foot - 3'6" max. There are always exceptions - I once worked with a horse who was Friesian and Percheron and she could clear 4'6" easy - but that's not the norm.

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xValkyrja In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-06 19:38:28 +0000 UTC]

The definition of a sport horse is "horses bred for the traditional Olympic equestrian sporting events of dressage, eventing, show jumping, and combined driving" - meaning that they are typically either warmblood/TB crosses, TB's or draft/TB crosses. In creating the ideal and typical sport horse, it's not really logical to introduce baroque blood because the baroque horses lack the height that's desired and tend to throw off the balance by thickening the neck to the point where it interferes with balance.

Even if throwing something baroque in there could be beneficial to dressage horse, it would throw off the rounded-ness of the breed for things like stadium jumping or cross-country.

I'm really not trying to poop on your parade, I'm just pointing out what sport horses are bred for IRL and how that would define what breeds would go into creating one, especially because you mentioned that you wanted a realistic breed.

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to xValkyrja [2013-05-06 19:46:50 +0000 UTC]

My must horses always be used for olympics?


I used P.R.E as a ref for this picture so..yeah

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xValkyrja In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-06 23:59:37 +0000 UTC]

Not in the least - but that is where the need for a sport horse originated and why it was bred.

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to xValkyrja [2013-05-07 14:08:07 +0000 UTC]

nope

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RavynWolf08 [2013-05-05 22:26:56 +0000 UTC]

I'm interested. The build reminds me of our fell pony stud, Casper, at work. Lol but I do like it. I'm very interested to see more.

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to RavynWolf08 [2013-05-06 03:35:54 +0000 UTC]

They have nothing todo with a pony. Fell ponys are taller at the back legs.

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RavynWolf08 In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-06 13:35:54 +0000 UTC]

I understand that. Lol It was more the head, neck and back that reminded me of Casper. I'm interested in this breed as a sport horse. Not a pony.

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msilovegir [2013-05-05 22:10:07 +0000 UTC]

wow!
i really love the neck, its so beautiful!!
i would definitely want one if it becomes a breed

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Irony-the-godess [2013-05-05 22:04:22 +0000 UTC]

Looks good so far, I would like to see where this goes.

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Pestdoktor [2013-05-05 21:08:39 +0000 UTC]

Also ich finde den Körperbau interessant. Der massive Hals und die Brust und die etwas schmalere Hinterhand erinnern mich ein bisschen an Bullterrier und Konsorten, was ich eigentlich ganz cool finde und so auch noch nicht gesehen habe. Das wird auch durch den stärkeren Behang vorne noch gefördert finde ich.
Zu hoffen wäre jetzt, dass die Leute, die sich davon dann nen Charakter anschaffen, auch auf solche Details achten und sie würdigen und auch so zeichnen, damit der Rasse nicht die Individualität flöten geht. Vielleicht kannst du das dann wirklich explizit auf dem Sheet fordern.
Leiiider hilft auch das nicht immer xD Ich bin bei den Linderhofern auch echt ständig dahinter, dass die Leute den Behang zeichnen und den Hengsten die Mähne kürzen.
Ich bin auf die Farben gespannt. Hast du da schon nen Plan?

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to Pestdoktor [2013-05-06 20:04:03 +0000 UTC]

Du bist die erste die das wirklich gesehen hat >w<
Da is eine jetzt am rummeckern, dass es keine sportpferde idn ect. :/

Als wäre das zu viel verlangt auf fesselbehang zu achten Oo

naja eigentlich alle farben owo (wegen dem mustang einfluss)

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Pestdoktor In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-06 21:33:23 +0000 UTC]

Oh mann... Harpg ist doch ein Spiel xD Außerdem heißt Sportpferd ja nicht automatisch Goldmedalliengewinner bei den Olympics xD Und selbst wenn nicht, das stört hier im Harpg auch keinen. Da haben auch so viele Pferde teilgenommen, die es theoretisch nicht in so hohe Klassen geschafft haben dürften xD

Och, finde ICH auch nicht xD Wenn ich mir ein Tier einer bestimmten, jemand anderem gehörenden Rasse anschaffe, achte ich auch auf die speziellen Merkmale. Aber scheinbar ist das nicht zwingend der Fall xD

Cool Gestromt sähe das bestimmt richtig scharf aus. Gerade weil mich die Anatomie so an Bulldogs oder staffords erinnert xD

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detectivebenson [2013-05-05 20:59:43 +0000 UTC]

OOOO. Love me some feathering!
I can't wait to see where this goes!

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Vivid-Myth [2013-05-05 20:59:23 +0000 UTC]

The conformation looks great so far! Would like to see some more info :3 xx

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Jian89 [2013-05-05 20:57:57 +0000 UTC]

It looks nice lovely strong neck.
Though it looks pretty drafty i am
Not that found on drawing real drafts (always fail XD)
So i am gonna wait for future details to make my decision.

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to Jian89 [2013-05-05 21:01:54 +0000 UTC]

It should be a heavy sport horse c:

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Kamieno [2013-05-05 20:54:59 +0000 UTC]

I just see an already existing breed... Maybe if you gave us more than just a sketch of the build of the horse, it would be more interesting and might compel more support. ^^

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to Kamieno [2013-05-05 21:00:51 +0000 UTC]

It should be a heavy sporthorse, much muscles and thick neck.
with much feathers at the front legs and less feathers at the back legs. the mane should be wavy only at the hair tips.
In there bloodlines was P.R.E., Lusitano mustang and a draft horse breed.

I don't have more ^^'

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AngelOfChange [2013-05-05 20:50:37 +0000 UTC]

For me. personally. it looks like a Real life horse or a normal horse. Like. the Nordanners. Or a few others *Sorry but they're just. too "real life" for me no offense to Nordanner lovers*

Whenever i think a "created breed" I think of something that LOOK normal but has that little Detail that makes someone go "WOAH!"

My "woah?" Is something that I have never seen before.

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to AngelOfChange [2013-05-05 20:52:20 +0000 UTC]

why does every horse breed look like nordanner for much people? XD
Nordanner look like P.R.E, Lucitano ect. XD

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AngelOfChange In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-05 21:04:08 +0000 UTC]

Well. XD I know a Few breeds that don't look like nordanner

Like these

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My friend's breeds X3

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to AngelOfChange [2013-05-05 21:05:31 +0000 UTC]

THIS are fantasy breeds X'D

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AngelOfChange In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-05 21:06:08 +0000 UTC]

Yes <3 I love those XD

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to AngelOfChange [2013-05-05 21:06:45 +0000 UTC]

but this one I want to do is a natural breed

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AngelOfChange In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-05 21:13:55 +0000 UTC]

Ahhh. I see!

Okay X3

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Jian89 In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-05 20:56:06 +0000 UTC]

I don't understand that either why does every breed has to be compared to nordanners

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to Jian89 [2013-05-05 21:02:34 +0000 UTC]

I don't know :/

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EquestrianJade [2013-05-05 20:50:25 +0000 UTC]

It looks amazing! Keep going ^^

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WolfsMoon1 In reply to EquestrianJade [2013-05-05 20:55:18 +0000 UTC]

Ok, but I have to hear what the others say c:

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EquestrianJade In reply to WolfsMoon1 [2013-05-05 23:51:00 +0000 UTC]

Okie dokie ^^

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