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Pencil, Charcoal, AcrylicThe largest Partisan battle of WWII.... In memory to 250,000 Poles killed in 2 months... Where was the West? Where were our "Allies" ?
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ahhhh but once you peer into the abyss.... 
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Łukaszu .. chylę Czoło ..
Za przejmujący temat, obraz niesamoicie oddaje wizerunek óczesnej Warszawy!
JESTEM Dumna z CIEBIE! Wspaniały podpis pod Praça. Ponadto Twoj Przekaz Inny osobom, o Historii .. brawo!
Niewiem Gramatyka zrobic CIEBIE, ABY dotarło, ale w polsce pojawiły sie glosy Ostro krytykujące dowódców Powstania!
O zrobić ZE posłano Na pewna śmieć najmłodszych warszawiaków. Przykro słuchać takich głosów.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyFb31…
Koniecznie posłuchaj i obejrzyj.
Moja ubiona wokalistka ANNA JOPEK-Sýpka WARSZAWA
TEKST pochodzi z "pamietnika z Powstania Warszawskiego" Mirona Białoszewskiego piękna muzykę napisał, całość zaaranżował i poprowadził Mateusz Pospieszalski
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Czesc
Moj ojciec z rodzina byli na Mokotowie w czasie powstania on w tedy mial 14 lat i o maly wlos by mnie nie bylo na swiecie...
Sluchalwm Lao Che "Powstatnie Warszawskie" zajebisty album i bardzo wemnie odezlaw sie duch rycerski.... Mysle ze mlodzi sa ruzni nie kturzy poprostu niewiedza oczym mowja...
Wiekszosc mojej rodziny sluzyla w AK no i prawie nikt nie przezyl. Wiec ich bohaterstwo jest zawsze udczone w mojim sercu! Pomimo polityki mysle ze zawsze trzeba oddac chold
ku pamieci poleglych po mimo opinii czy dobrze czy nie. Strata zycia ku kraju jest to wielki honor i tak sie powinna tych ludzi traktowac... z honorem.
A oprucz tego Komuchy w tym swoje palce macza teraz i przed tem i zawsze latwiej mlodym zamydlic oczy, tym kturych rodzice kolaborowali znim w tedy i dzis...
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Teraz poważnie. Pięknie piszesz o naszej Historii, pięknie emocjonalnie, prawdziwie zrob Bolu.
Moja najbliższa Rodzina, juz Cie ZNA z moich Opowieści. SA Pozytywnie zaskoczeni, pełni podziwu
Dzis, przykro Się stwierdzić, ALE: slowo HONORU: w obecnych czasach Się zdewaluowało.
NIE porafię juz wierzyć politykom, po wyborach Staja Się innymi ludżmi.
PUNK WIDZENIA OD PUNKTU SIEDZENIA ... zależy! zrobic przykre!
Dzieki ZE przjąłeś zgodę na wstwienie pięknej Pracy
Po tych inowacjach DA , mam problem z poprawnym pisaniu. Nie rozumiem o co chodzi?/liternictwo/
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tak cholera jakis tez mialem problem z tym musialem zaladowac nowy browser i sie poprawilo. haha czasem zmiany sa wiecej klopotliwe niz to jest warto.
Wow! Dzienki ze podzielilas sie mna rodzinie 
ahhhh tak przykro ze takie sa echa polityki ale cuz zawsze tak bylo i bedzie. Naj gorzej jest ze oni sie ludzi nie sluchaja...
Powstanie jest dlamnie bardzo fascynujace z punktu historycznego i jak piszesz emocialnego. Takie opowiesci jak tata opowiadal, dzieje od 39-50 roku byly naprawde smutne i bohaterskie. Zawsze jak jestem w Warszawie odwiedzam miejsca honoru no i oczywiscie Powaski gdzie leza od lat moji...
Tak wiem Honor to nic warty jest teraz ale ja mam to w dupie! Bylem, jestem i bende osoba dla kturego te slowo jest bardzo wazne i nie wyobrazam sobie zlamac swego slowa.
Ostatnio oczekuje z Polski wiersze Tadeusza Micinskiego... cuz zrobic Polska dusza jest romantyczna
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Dziekuje, oczywiscie przekażę Rodzinie Pozdrowienia. Bede Ich wyrazicielką Też Cie cieplutko i pozdrawiam.
- Zyje śr Jakis Mnie głuchy płacz - Jakis szloch i płacz żyją my Mnie -
Niby w grocie kropel wieczny Szmer, monotonnych kropel tajny Jek. - Może wstyd ale nie znany mi poeta, dlatego sięgnęłam po informację.
- TEN KAWAŁEK MI WPADŁ W OKO
- Nie wiem czy romantykom w dzisiejszym brutalnym świecie jest dobrze?
- mnie nie!!
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Jest to Dola wlasnie tych przeznaczonych romantyka a by sie blagac pomiedzy dzikimi murami i sieci brutalnej globalizmu....
Fajny bardzo dziekuje za link
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Przyjemność po mojej stronie Panie Łukaszu
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Haha.. Still pretty Purtyy
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Love the textures, love the ghost-like effects, very sombre and impressive. Awesome work!
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I wanted to give it a feel of impending doom... the subject is very close to my heart
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I think you captured that feeling really well, of death and grief and despair. I can't empathise with you beyond a very abstract idea, since I was fortunate enough to not have to live through something that horrible (and I do inderstand that is an understatement, even if I don't fully understand how much of one). But I can sympathise with you, however much of a use that is to you.
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Thanks very much!
I didn't have first hand expierience but my dad was there during the Nazi occupation and during the uprising.
He's told me stories and it's amazing he's still alive....
This is a very sore subject to my people as during the Communist regime it was a forbidden subject because
the Reds didn't do anything to help but watched people get slaughtered. And in fact it was the Nazi's that gave
the Partisans POW status which saved probably another 100,000 lives....
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War always is an dirty business.
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so true 
unfortunately as long as someone believes they are right it will never end....
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... Yeah, that was an awkward statement. I find it difficult to talk about war without falling into cliché's, since my practical knowledge is zero (very, very luckily), and none of my grandparents ever mentioned their experience in WWII, so...
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ah...
though I know your people had seen battles as well....
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Yeah, we've been occupied during WWII, which was a nasty surprise, since the Dutch wanted to stay neutral, which they were during WWI, but the Germans wouldn't let us and attacked the Netherlands more or less out of the blue. Most of the battles in the Netherlands were during the invasion and later the liberation of our country. Of course, our cities have been bombed during the war too, but nowhere near as badly as in other countries. Our government was in exile in the UK, and most of the fighting the people still here did was in the resistance, which was more sneaking around and hiding and smuggling people and less outright fighting.
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Ahhh those Germans.... Poland and Germany have had a long "loving" relationship. We call them "Not Us". Poland also had a government in exile in London, but unfortunately the Reds had already conspired with Churchill and our exiled leaders were null and void those that did come back were executed by the Russians. Much like all the former Polish Partisan or members of the National Army as compared to the "People's Army". After the war more Poles died at the hands of the Russians than at the hands of the Nazi's....
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We were much more fortunate, our government came back in one piece, as far as I know. But then, the Dutch have a long relationship with the UK, which made for a relatively smooth interaction/alliance.
And I'm guessing the Russians killed them as 'Traitors', aka political enemies? Because they made decisions in the war that the Russians disagreed with? Yeah, that also seems to be a common theme in/after war... I mean, I agree that crimes must be punished, but the death sentence because people tried to de the best they could for themselves and their families? Nothing is black and white in war, nothing clear cut, and everyone in the war believe they are doing it for the right reasons, so it is always a mess trying to clean up afterwards. But the Russians definitely went about it all the wrong ways.
Are the relationships between Poland and Germany and Poland and Russia still tainted by all this (and what came before, if I understand what you told me correctly)? Because as near as I can tell (politics is not really my thing), Germany and the Netherlands have a mostly friendly relationship, and my generation has no issue with Germans. Whatever feelings over WWII exist in my generation seems to be horror over the atrocities that happened during the war, and sadness over lost family members we never got to meet, but nothing really negative towards Germany.
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Members of AK or Amria Krajowa (National Army) were killed by the Soviets and other Poles who served the new regime because they wanted to get rid of any national pride and tried to rewrite history to make it seem that the Soviets saved Poland. This is a LIE the national army fought the Nazis from the very beginning to the end. The end result after the war was that they were branded as criminals and killed. Recently the Russians came clean and admitted to killing more than 150,000 of the AK officers. The West and the Allies are seen as traitors to Poland because they left us in the hands of the Soviets knowing full well that this would put Poland behind the Iron Curtain, something the Poles wanted to avoid. But Churchill and Stalin in Yalta already had divided Europe between themselves and all was done even before the first bullets were fired.
The relations between the Poles and Germans and Russian is strained. Most Poles view the Germans as butchers and evil doers. Their rape of our country will not be forgotten EVER. The Germans and the Poles have been fighting since before we were made to be Christians. As far as the Russians go they are also seen in a negative light especially for their treatment of our people after the war which just as bad as the Nazis. As Poles we have a very difficult place geographically stuck in the middle between two waring beasts....
This is why a lot of Poles fear the EU. It seems that Hitler lost but Ms Mirkle is doing a fine job of it now. I hate this idea of EU! I think it causes more problems towards culture. I fear soon my fellow Poles will think of themselves as Europeans speaking either English or some other foreign language, forgetting our culture, traditions and ethnic identity. The Euro is a bad idea because this will marginalize other countries to be servents to the great powers of Germany, France and Britian. We will in the end be farmers or miners or some other thing never given the chance to make our country great but instead we will be working for the greater good of Europe which sounds to me like a never Nazi idea.
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I can tell it's important to you.
As for the Dutch... We've always been a people of traders, and are very open to adapting to other cultures, which led to a lot of influences of other cultures on our own. For us, the EU is considered a good thing, as it's good for an economical standpoint. But your situation is completely different. I can see why your people hate being told how to live your life, and how that would influence your opinion of the EU. I don't share your feelings on the EU, but I can understand them. Globalisation is a growing trend, the world seems to grow smaller with the digital age, and the more powerful put their mark on the results of this. And that would make it more difficult to preserve one's own culture. I can understand wanting the Poles to be Poles instead of Russians or Germans or French or Englishmen or American. I wouldn't like it if people tell me to stop being Dutch. And while I don't particularly feel strongly connected to my government or community, it's still my home and my culture and my people and that is not something that people are allowed to harm. Huh, never realised that before, exactly. I mean, I hate politics and I suck at social interactions (well, not entirely, but it's not my strong point) and I never really thought about my feelings about my home much, but apparently I am more patriotic than I thought... Guess that is good to know.
Anyway, I hope my ramblings make sense to you, I'm not sure I put it properly in words. If anything sounds offensive, it's not meant to be that way, as I don't know exactly to explain my different opinion without accidentally being insulting.
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btw I have been in the Amsterdam both for pleasure 
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I agree with all the points in the first part, especially the one about justice.
True, I'd definitely like to have more of those with you.
I've never been to Poland, but if the people there are half as nice as you, I think I'll like them just fine. And Amsterdam is a nice city, I was born there, and though I no longer live in the city, it's still one of my favourite places to visit regularly. And true, you learn the most about a country by its people, as books and tv can try and tell what it's like, but that is still an outsiders' view, not an insiders.
I suddenly remember a story of my English teacher. He told us that many of the French never really bother learning English, which is, like it or not, the language we tend to talk in when we all speak different languages. It was a story about how the French study English, first in university, then they are sent to the UK for a while to learn English as the British, then when they go back they have to relearn the French way of speaking English.... Of course my English teacher was older than my parents and that story came from his study period, but it always stuck me as weird... Until I went to France (only a few small visits that were mostly spend with the group I travelled with), and realised that most French expect people that come to their country understand their language, and they speak ridiculously fast... So maybe there is more truth to that story than I fist thought. And their accent when speaking English is really prominent. Of course, most of the people I met there spoke English well enough for me to understand, but still...
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I had a hell of time communicating in France. The whole thing was a disaster I was coming back from Warsaw and had a lay over in Paris so I thought what the hell make a fast jump into the city check it out. Ended up getting lost missing my flight and no one would give me a hand. So I started speaking to people in Polish and some guy tried to help me that way haha.... Anyway the Poles and the French should have a good relationship after all we produced Chopin and there has always been a good relationship between the both peoples....
For sure, art is a great way of sparking a conversation
sorry ugghhh shit this sounds like a bitch fest 
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I hope you got home safely from that particularly trip....
In the Netherlands, you are legally obligated to get health insurance here, at least a basic version, so that that sort of practices don't happen here. I'm fortunate enough to be pretty healthy, but both my parents never had any problems with having to pay that much, and my mum had problems with her gall bladder, which they eventually removed. America look geographically and culturally very interesting, but from what I get of the American mentality, some things I see on tv and online are completely weird to me. Their habit of suing everyone (at least it sometimes looks that way) for the most stupid things (I remember a story of a woman who put her cat in the microwave, which died, of course, and she then sued the company for not having put in the user manual that living creatures should not be put in the microwave.... ). I don't do expose any of my art, I'm no where near that good, so I don't know about how possible it is to do so here. But there are a lot of smaller art shops, so selling is an option.
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well the problem with Americans (the ones born here and several genrations back) are very sheltered and very pig headed and egotistical. Because they think the US is the greatest country in the world. So I ask these people if they have ever been anywhere else? the answer is usually no... This explains much of the mentality. I at the age of 10 was more aware of reality than most Americans twice my age. Much of this comes from a over simplification and shallow attitude towards the rest of the world, especially politically. It's sad but true...
As far as health care goes, Obama is making everyone get insurance and it is going to be with a price not free like in Poland. So they made it universal but now we pay for it so they can make more money. And this is source of all problems any business is to make money. The problem is health care and other social services are not suppose to be a business!!!
btw love the Cpt. Picard icon huge fan
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I haven't had enough contact with Americans in real life to judge one way or the other, but what you're describing sounds very similar to how they come across in the media.
And health care is very much not supposed to be business, but it seems more and more to be the case.
Yeah, I love the -icon, partly because of the expression, partly because I'm a huge Star Trek fan too. I was introduced to it with the next generation series.
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awesome! I love Star Trek!!! it is one of my all time faves! My wife and I have seen them all and rewatched them so many times. Currently we are going through Enterprise the one with Scot Bacula - Captain Archer. Great stuff! But Picard is so much the man I love his classical acting you can tell he was a theater actor. Did you see David Lynch's "Dune" he was in it too...
Unfortunately health care is a business. My mom worked as a Radiologist-Mamagrapher for over 30 years, one year before she was about to retire they fired her, thus loosing many of her benefits.... fucking assholes! they did it so they can get a kid fresh out of school and pay them half as much.... no respect for expieirance or dedication just $$$$$$
haha oh they are very prude, stubborn and child like and overly proud (not the good kind of pride the one that limits vision) but at the same there a lot of intelligent ones too just that there is more dumb people than smart ones
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I've seen the whole Next Generation, Voyager and Enterprise series, and Next Generation is definitely my favourite, though my choice is mostly influenced by Data. I just find the dilemma of what make one a sentient being very interesting, the actor is great, and I think I used to have a bit of a crush on the character.
Yeah, that's true in any business. Ideally, they prefer younger (and cheaper) people for job, but also lots of experience, which makes finding a job a pain.
Ah, but that is the thing, isn't it? A person can be intelligent, but people are stupid. People, wherever they are, have a habit of following the crowd. And combine that with the things Americans learn in childhood, and you get the behaviour of the average American.
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haha my wife has the same feelings for Data that you do as well. I like him a lot to, one of my favorites was Gordi was taking care of Data's cat Spot. They were crawling through the jeffries tubes and talking and Data says to Giordi "I can not shoot my cat"
it's sad money is such a pressure on people and it's not even real
this is why I fear democracy has no chance because we end up being ruled by the masses and they are well let's say not as bright as the intelligent minority.
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I think one of my favourite Data scenes is in one of the movies, when the Enterprise had crashed and Data finds Spot alive, so has cries, and Data tells Deanna that his emotion chip must be malfunctioning because he's crying when he's happy and she tells him that his emotion chip works just fine. Or the one where he tries to train Spot, which doesn't go to well... Or the one with his daughter... Or the one where he decides to try out a beard... There's also a scene in one of the books where he more or less tells Polenski to, more or less, stick it up her ass, while staying pretty well in character.
Might look into the cartoon when I have time.
I fear money will play an important part until we learn to devalue material stuff.
And that is a problem with democracy, and the media doesn't help.
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yup know those so well!
He's just a great character, though my wife thinks of me as a Klingon
It was such a great series
DS 9 bores me too it's too much of a soap opera for me...
Yeah Polenski is a bitch that's fore sure I like it how she called him Data with a short "a" rather than Data with a long "a"
I don't get money it's not even real! Value is ascribed to an object! grrrr the world should reread Marx!
Well the media a vulture
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DS9 does have a thing or two in common with a soap opera....
Also funny are the times Data tries to understand/use humour, those are hilarious....
And I definitely agree.
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"ignite the midnight petrolium" for "burning the midnight oil" haha yes his questioning and improvisation with human expression are precious!
or like when he and Yar become intimate that one time he says to her "I am fully functional and versed in many positions"
Do you like the X Files?
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Oh, yeah, those are awesome!
Can't say I'm too familiar with the X-Files series, other than the basic premise. You know Stargate?
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yup sure do watched all those the original series, Atlantis and Universe series though Richard Dean Anderson is always MacGayver too me
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No, I think MacGayver was before I was born, so I've never seen anything of it. Is it a good series? From what I understand it is, but if it is as slow as Star Trek TOS.... Not sure if I could stand to watch it nowadays.
As for Stargate.... I've seen the first eight, I think, seasons, till shortly after Vala found out she was pregnant. They stopped the series here after that. My favourite characters are Teal'c, Bra'tac, Daniel and Thor. I've seen the first two seasons of Atlantis, so I know Ronon, but I can't really remember where we ended when they stopped broadcasting it here. My favourites there are Ronon, John and Hermiod. I want to see the rest of both series, but I need a refresher for the ones I've already seen, and since that is hundred hours or so.... When I have more time, I hope.
And other series you're a fan of?
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A great one is the new BattleStar Galactica!!! This is probably one of my favorite scify series EVER!!! Do you know it? We've watched the entire series 3 times and it always kicks ass!!!
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I know it, even seen a few episodes, but it just confused me. It's not a bad series, not by a long shot, but all the clones just confused me. But that was a while ago, maybe I'll try it again, this time from the start, maybe I'll be less confused when I don't jump into it sort of half-way.
Also, you ever seen NCIS?
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oh yeah no wonder you were lost. It's one of those shows you have to watch from the beginning otherwise you have no clue especially with BSG because there so many sub plots... I strongly recommend it!
Yeah not a fan of crime drama, but my wife likes Law & Order all 3 series so by default have seen a couple of those... haha
I actually like to watch more history stuff especially ancient history shows.
Been wanting to revisit David Lynch's Twin Peaks series....
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So I'm guessing the new Sherlock series (either Sherlock from BBC or Elementary in the US) are not your cup of tea either? I like crime drama, but it depends on the series. I do prefer a series that has a decent story line, and not, like the CSI series, almost none. Of course, they should eventually end a series, because how often can the ultimate bad guy escape/fake death?
Oh, and do you know Leverage? That series is hilarious and very well written.
I like history too, but it depends on series. I'm not familiar with Twin Peaks, what is it about? Also, I like fantasy, but again,, it depends on the series. And you?
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