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Sweet! Even if it was copied, this is still really good.
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When you say "reference used", you literally just copied the drawing completely. Without giving credit to the original artist. Next time you think to draw something that millions have seen, be sure to credit your artist. Otherwise it's just the same as walking in, taking a photo of the Mona Lisa, then claiming it as your own.
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... You shouldn't put your signature on an idea you didn't come up with on your own. I've seen this on the internet, you just hand drew it. :/ You'd have a lot of potential if you just drew from your own head. ( I actually have the original photo on my laptop. )
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A signature is not only put to show that it was their idea but the fact that they were the ones who drew it. Although it would have been better to give credit to the right person, most of the time we don't know where the original art of something comes from in the internet.
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"Most of the time we don't know where the original art of something comes from in the internet." They are exposed to link the picture. If they copied it they know where to link the original. I'm an artist my self and copy to gain skill. But there is no pride in some thing you didn't come up with on your own, only pride with the skill. It's wrong to lead people to believe that it was your original idea. At least say some thing about it not being from your own head. Also, copying is a lot easier than drawing free hand. You have the image to look at. Nothing will change my mind about the opinion I state because if some one copied my art and didn't dare to say a word that it wasn't there very own I would be royally pissed. And just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's free to use because you can google it.
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Actually, I see a LOT of images like that famous emo angel who's gripping his sides and such and I can't find the original ANYWHERE, even though I've been looking for years. It's so famous and has been manipulated and redone so many times that it's most likely impossible to find the original. So, even if they linked it, then it would most likely not be the original image, and instead a repost on a photo sharing site. Those never include the link to the original because, again, by the time an image is that notable it's impossible to find the original.
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It doesn't have to be the original. Just a link to where they got the idea. That way they can show some sort of respect and not look like they are trying to pull off the drawing as their own original creation.
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Even if the idea didn't come from their head, I think it still takes skill to copy a pic to that extent. It's not EXACTLY the same so she/he deserves credit for what they drew.
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I didn't say they didn't have skill. I said they shouldn't put their signature on something that they did not originally come up with. And at least give credit to the original art.
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then what about those realism sketchers? 
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I agree with you for some of this, though you tell me to calm down like I was furious to begin with. I was angry with the ignorant and rude replies I have been getting. If you read my first comment I was basically telling her/him to try some thing out of their own creativity because they may have a lot of potential. I just want to say that copying an image is different from drawing from your head though, you have guidelines as practice. I use references when I need practice. And yes, realism is kind of the same, only your putting a 3d object onto a 2d platform, when in images you find online it is already 2d. Thus the signature may just be a personal opinion, I find it a much deeper sign then just a name on it. For a child it is different, they need practice. And to begin with all I was saying was that this person should have said some thing about the original idea not being there's, because that's still plagiarism. It is your preference to follow those who use guidelines, but I prefer those who walk on their own. Please respect my opinion, as I have told many before you. Also, there is much LESS time and effort put into following guidelines then there was for you to post a reply with decent grammar.
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By calm down I did't mean you were angry I meant you were reading too deep into it, getting a little worked up. I know what you mean but even if you think it takes less effort its still effort all the same, they were proud of it and wanted to put their signature on it if it means something deeper to you then don't do it yourself, imposing your own views onto someone else, with so much conviction isn't helping anyone although you may think otherwise. I'm just saying that the signature means something different to each person in this case and so does art. I'm just starting out as an artist and it takes ALOT of work for me to follow guidelines, i probably could NOT put up what this person has if you gave me 1 hour plus and that's fine to me because practice makes perfect.
Pablo Picasso - " Good artists copy, great artists steal"
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Alright, I see what you are saying. Yet I was not 'imposing' forcing my view point onto them. If I was I would have commented on every thing. I left my open opinion on one comment, and forgot about it. People are making too big of a deal over some thing that I posted probably a year ago. I was stating my opinion, whether they take part in it, I do not care. I have every right to speak my mind, I wasn't being rude and shoving it in their face. People are being triggering by treating me like the bad guy for posting my opinion (while still complimenting the artist might I say), and their comments are yet still opinions toward mine. "with so much conviction isn't helping anyone although you may think otherwise." First of all, i'm not convicting, if some one would have read my personal opinion, but then left it at that continuing their way there would be no problem. Might I say, people like you who feel the need to take this "argument" into hand are the ones causing this conviction, your shoving your opinions down my throat like your 'helping' some one. Second, (using your same quote:"with so much conviction isn't helping anyone although you may think otherwise." ) I don't care about helping any one. I left one comment for Christs sake. I left my opinion on how some artist may be offended by some one just mimicking their work with out stating that they used a reference ( Now I see that the artist had posted that she used a reference which I PERSONALLY appreciate ). With that comment I left it at that, I do not care if any one feels helped, or not; I was stating my own perspective because I am free to do so. AS AN ARTIST, I would PERSONALLY be very offended if some one just used my work, and then posted the copy somewhere else with out saying that they used a reference. I really don't care about the signature, all I care about is that they say SOMETHING about the original work not being theirs. Pablo Picasso - " Good artists copy, great artists steal" that is the worst quote I've heard in an argument. No great artists do not steal. First of all, it's lying, second, if you copy the Mona Lisa and sell it off as the original, it's illegal. I believe that I prove my point. So how about you people who keep feeling the need to be the first Reich's hero quite force feeding your OPINIONS to me, and I will quit cramming freedom's boot up your ass. (Not a question.)
Pablo Picasso - " Good artists copy, great artists steal" <- You comprehended that wrong, it means THE SAD TRUTH.
My quotes?
“He that readeth good writers and pickes out their flowres for his own nose, is lyke a foole.” - Stephen Gosson
"I copied down bases for years and always gave credit to the respected artists and used them as guidelines so that one day I could create my own unique style of art to call my own. I've seen many many people before steal art and writings from many good, hardworking people who were inspired by the world and idea's around them. So, if your going to be inspired to copy down a piece of artwork, remember to give full credit because that person went through allot of 'hard work' and dedication themselves using their own guidelines. Remember, it's not all burrito's and strippers my friends." Also from this amazing artist: www.youtube.com/watch?v=unRldL…
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conviction used in this case refers to a firm belief, I mean the way I used it doesn't really translate well into the misunderstanding you created but i guess if you were speed reading then, maybe I can see why you'd maybe think that especially if you felt like people were attacking you. You're reply is super long but I skimmed briefly - kinda - and I see a tonne of misunderstandings..... so lets trek through them! 
You've misunderstood my interpretation of Pablo Picassso (like i said EVERYTHING IS SUBJECTIVE - I know what he meant and I know what the originator -W. H. Davenport Adams- of that quote from several retellings did pablo re-invent meant furthermore if you properly follow the evolution of pablo's quote from the originator to pablo then to steve jobs you see a shift from condemnation of plagarism to a celebration; and no don't start another argument I am against plagarism this is in terms of something else), you're taking everything at face value, don't be so quick to jump to accusations or assumptions. Bam stealing = bad. No, don't think like that, yes stealing is bad but you stopped there don't you see? the irony? imagine he was talking about hyper realistic paintings (stealing landscapes and moments in time)? Or that he was referring to the act of stealing as taking something and making it your own? (i.e. the antithesis of plagarism) don't you see how beautiful the quote is? Otherwise why would I have used it? It's such a double edged sword!
Yeah Adamsmeant the sad truth but by the time of Pablo (the quote had undergone several changes and authors) hadn't the meaning reversed?, lets look at Disney, Most of Disney is plagiarized (but it's like the good sort of plagiarism) it's the re-invention which is amazing but all the copyrights on Disney make it impossible for others to do what they themselves have done !!! Art and words are subjective. If you feel like I'm making an unfair "attack" on a comment you made years ago you must realise this is the internet, where trails of age old discussions, posts, artworks and so forth will remain and people will track through them. If your comment invokes someone to reply, even if time has passed for you, for the person it was just yesterday that's the beauty of the internet not only does it connect people internationally but through time as well, it would be naive to think people cared when the comment was posted because the points are the same - lol off topic!!
And when did i ever say you were being rude? I was just saying everyone has a different view on this and I presented mine because you're right everyone has the right to have their own opinion and express them!
And about your helpful point. Well for me Deviant art is a community of artists, a common that can be construed in any negative light (EVEN IF ITS ONLY BARELY REMOTELY) must have some constructive and helpful value because these artists might just be starting out these artworks might mean something, that is my own view and i guess I'd rather be helpful than unhelpful. Which was why i replied in the first place, wasn't trying to add fuel to the fire just joining the conversation in support for the artist.
Yes yes I follow a lot of artists and yes I support fully crediting artists I'm just saying that doesn't really apply here...it's like a pencil sketch doodle dude that's like me drawing a stick figure batman and then putting my signature on it, I really see no problem and that's OK to me that we have two different viewpoints.
and on that imposing note you made : "YOU shouldn't put YOUR signature on an idea....." ---> idk man seems kinda like imposing to me, in fact any "you shouldn't...." would.
I don't really care deeply much for this I just find it rude if I didn't reply to such a lengthy comment you probably put time and effort into writing, so I should probably show the same etiquette. Peace.
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Actually I type large comments to get people to stop commenting. I just skimmed through your comment. I did not misunderstand the quote I misunderstood why you where trying to use it as if it were valid in your argument ( This person was not copying landscape, they copied a picture directly ). Also you say your being helpful toward the artist? Perhaps the artist already had enough help and you didn't need to stick your nose in it because your "help" is doing the opposite for the person that your replying to. Yes it's the internet, but when you see some thing's date that was posted a long time ago it's pretty much common sense to know that perhaps the person who left the comment feels differently about the subject in this current time, so with logic, one should keep going else where. But that's not how humans work, is it? No they just have too much pride crawling up their spines to let crap go. I respect your comments and your view point and I see that you are getting agitated by my comments, as I am with yours. Why am I agitated? Because I see that your trying to intelligently insult me as I do the same. Just keep in mined that while your "helping" your damsel in distress the person your attacking ( yes I can use attacking ) feels <- attacked and stressed out just for posting their own damn opinion. "YOU shouldn't put YOUR signature on an idea....." Maybe you took this as imposing, remember that different people use different ways of speech, I connect one sentence with the entire paragraph, meaning that that was part of my opinion. Now if you feel the need to reply again so be it, of course I will read it but since I do not feel like causing any more commotion I will not reply- this conversation is boring me and I can see that you are trying to do almost the same thing that I am doing in my comments. I'm going to take a guess that you will reply because your pride would be hurt if you didn't get the last word. Sorry if I come off rude, i'm just irritated by the way you feel the need to come back at me, though I guess we are doing the same thing. As I said, I respect your comments and your style of argumentative speech, so please don't feel like I completely hold all of this against you, even if you may disrespect me. Now please, for future reference, please leave the measly comments directed toward the artist, alone; I was trying to state my opinion nicely. Have a wonderful day. ^^ ( Also, I don't really put time and effort into these replies, I type large amounts every day, and I ever so happened to be on Skype with my friends when I got your previous message, so they had some input. )
Oh and thank you for being respectful in your comments, it's much more enjoyable to read (no sarcasm, i'm actually grateful and I feel as if your opinion was stressed nicely).
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oh no I just reply because I don't like to leave people hanging
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I drew exactly the same thing ._. I got this picture from Google , its in my gallery
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Oh wow. I love it. The gas mask must be hard to draw.
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Great sketch, the paper gives a "surviving war time" effect, love the mask!
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he's really hot-- ♡´･ᴗ･`♡ you're really good at drawing <3
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Great!! I really like this. If you want to see my gallery.
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Beautiful lines
You really are talented - keep it up! Everything you're doing works !
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I like that so much, the mask is awesome, you have a elegant trace, Added to favorites, Llama Badge and DeviantWatch :3 PD: Your other works are amazing too, and sorry my bad english.
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thankyou so muuch! *^*
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