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We all joined this site, more or less for this reason, to get feedback on our art. The whole point of submitting art online is for people to see it and hear what they think about it.
Now there are a lot of deviants out there who get little to no feedback and as a result ask the people who faved their art to comment or go to random people on dA and ask for them to look at their art or comment in the hopes that the person will be kind enough to return the favor.
A message to the people who do that, you're doing it all wrong.
Sure, if you ask 20 people who faved your drawing what they thought about it, you might get 1 or 2 answers, but in return, you'll be ignored by say 10 people and you'll annoy 8 people. I get these comments and i'm telling you, begging for feedback is not the way to go, if someone didn't comment when they fave, what makes you think forcing their hand is the right way to go?
A fav is a compliment, take it a it is. Not everyone has time to comment, but you should be happy they took the time to look at your art and click that fav button.
Also, commenting on random deviants and expecting them to return the favor might leave you disappointed. There are many friendships that can be forged this way but it's tedious because many deviants aren't very active on dA, many are just interested in receiving comments and don't even reply, and many are happy to receive your comment but have no time/don't feel like returning the favor. That is especially the case with popular artists who receive lots of comments and literally don't have the time to answer/comment/ check out people's galleries. So if you want to do it this way, it's ok, but you could try to comment on deviations who have few to 0 comments. Check to see if they answer to their comments, if they don't, chances are they don't really care for giving and receiving feedback (or they might be interested in receiving feedback but are sure as hell not going to give you any).
Most deviants wait for people to come to them and comment, and that's a legitimate way of doing it. But if you really don't feel like waiting for that to happen and don't want to leave this to chance then here are your options:
1. Comment for comment group, i will even list a few in case you don't know how to search for groups on dA read their projects and journals and apply to get feedback there. You will have to comment in return but isn't it much better to comment knowing that you will receive feedback as well?
more groups: :iconproject-comment:
2. critique groups - if you're interested in in-depth comments and critiques, there are groups for that as well.
Critique groups:
3. Thumbshare in forums. forum.deviantart.com/showcase/… bet many of you didn't know that even existed
4. if you're a writer, there are groups for you too! which are literature critique groups
5. Be active in the community. Give llamas, browse the undiscovered section, comment in the forums and give other people feedback, but not just random people but people who asked for feedback in the thumbshare or the feedback groups, they are most likely to be grateful for your comment and return the favor. Don't just wait for them to come to you, try to be the one to make the first step.
I am by no means an expert, this is just what I would do. I get enough feedback and i am very happy with it. If you know of other good methods to get feedback then you can suggest it here and i will include it in this journal.
If you want my oppinion on a particular drawing, you can write a link in this journal and i will try to answer to as many people as possible.
Also, please fav this journal so that many people can see it and have this information. You'd be surprised how many deviants out there have no idea how to find these feedback groups.
I also encourage you to comment on each other's linked drawings in this journal, but you don't have to if you don't want to, but you'll make someone happy if you do.
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since i joined dA i've experienced it from my desktop so i don't how fun or not it would be from the mobile, btu i quite enjoy deviantart better than facebook or tumblr. I don't like being bugged with instant messages on facebook so i keep the chat turned off all the time, it's just useless talking there, nothing of substance, i lost interest in that a long time ago 
i think i know why you aren't getting much results, and i might be wrong, but you are not advertising yourself enough. you said you started giving llamas but you only gave 13, and i consider that number quite small. You will definitely get less than you give, you should expect that. But if you give a lot you will get a lot, so if you gave say 100 llamas, you'd get 10-20 people checking your gallery out, giving llamas in return, maybe they would check your commissions out, but then again, where are your commissions? They're nowhere to see on your page, how are people going to commission you if they don't see you actually offer commissions. if you really want people to buy commissions from you, make a commission journal and keep it up, let it be the first thing someone sees when visiting your gallery. if you get 50 visitors per day then you will know for a fact that 50 people saw your commission journal.
Maybe you posted your commission journal in 1-2 groups and gave up soon after that. You have to be willing to advertise yourself constantly, and eventually you will get clients, and if they're happy with the work they receive, it's a high chance they will commission again.
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Yeah, and thank you for the fave, I didn't see that coming, such a surprise for me c:
Oh, I'm very talkative person who likes to chat on off-the-topic issues and I think DA isn't a good platform for chatting for guys like me. I have an account on FB, but I rarely surf it since I'm an active VK user where everyone speaks Russian - it's almost impossible there to find someone from a different country but Ukraine, Belarus or southern former USSR countries like Uzbekistan. Sooo, I'm not very acquainted with foreigners, unfortunately xD
I've started doing this only this month, I guess - giving out llamas and saying thankful words on each fave and comment. I'm trying to write full commentaries on those who consist of more than just simple "Beautiful!". But I'm afraid this means to be nothing but appearing to be stubborn and annoying bagger for attention of other users.
Well, It used to be right on my page just below my DA card but it was removed after a wrote a Journal where I suggested guys to feature themselves. But that's fine, I fixed it just by removing this feature Journal since no one is interested c: You mean I should put it above my DA info?
Oh, that's partly my parents fault. When I made an account I was 13. And they forbid me to use computer but a few hours a weekend, I had a parents control on it. So my only chance to surf the net was only my mobile. Now I'm allowed to, I'm almost 18, but I don't have a habit. If I need to chat or else what I use my mobile. if I use comp - it's just to draw or refresh my Itunes?
I've never tried to use it especially for DA XD
I also love doing trades and asking for trades, anyway xD People rarely take it, though xD
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It's kind of you to write a journal like this one. I have some feedback because I like and use to comment on the works
of artists I appreciate and I fave or give llamas oftenly. This journal could help the new members to give
some feedback because it's important when you enter a community to be noticed by the others and we all want a little bit of recognition for what we can do and what we are. Letting comments is as important as receiving them.
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i really dont know how to promote my work. or myself. im just like that ... i dont know how or what to do to get 'popular'
here, and in real life im always behind, even if i do something better.
im used to not get attention, and when i get few comments is something like: 'wooo, i actually did something that people like'. or they are just polite ...
but, for those few people who are really become friends to me, because of that, i love to be part of this community
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Thank you for sharing this, I may take some of your advice 
I'm sure it's now helping many deviants, and I hope it'll help me in the future
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I don't update nor draw as often as I used to back in 2008.
Art was my life, now it's a pastime.
How can I enjoy it again?
Whenever I draw, I feel like I have to meet a certain threshold in order to exceed my expectations. Help me change that and undermine this perfectionist of a character!
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hehehe
you whrote the pure truth, about feedback
I've been here since 2009 in other accounts and yea, since that same year I learnt to not expect much from DA users
Most of artists are, sadly, very selfish when it comes to support others. They like to be supported, but dislike to return the favor to others, and not only online, I've experienced that in real life too. I had the luck to also meet many humble and more supportive artists as well, but those are not s many as the others. Artists are so competitive that kindness and solidarity don't exist in their world.
Myself, I like to support others anyway, with a fav a critique and/or even a short comment.
There's people who don't care and others who are so so thankfull.
When I know I make happy the second ones I'm so happy with it, since I know there are hundreds of people whose art is only seen here. At times even here they are ignored.
I know about the time thing, sadly it influences me too and sadly for the lack of time I can´t comment in every work, but at least I can share some thoughst fom time to time or at least give the fav. And yea, be active too, if you log in DA only once per year is so hard to believe you care for what happens here
I also featured those artists in my jounrals, those who I think are talented and apreciate the feedback.
And also I love to suggest those what I feel are worth to be in the DD page.
They are not always accepted, but I never give up with them, since already three of the many suggestions I've made were featured as DDs the past year
Thanks for sharing this
I tells a lot of true stuf about feedback.
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not everyone does 
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They are? Why? I think it is sort of equal to a fave.
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everyone has different opinions about what llamas mean ^^
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cool, a great way to find critiquable artwork is by browsing the 'critiquable' section on deviabtart. Click on the dropdown menu on deviantart (the one on the top left of the screen) and you will see a section called 'critiquable' Click on that and you will find artworks of deviants who requested critiques. it's a great way to find stuff to critique while ensuring you're not giving critiques to people who don't want them.
And a tip, don't give critiques to epople who did not request it. Many deviants are here just for the fun and are in no mood to improve their art or to hear other people point out what they did wrong
good luck on your critiquing~
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this is really full of nice tips but in the end it's always about what you draw sadly u___u it doesn't help either that the exposure system here is so broken which leads to a broken community--- do i feel comfortable with someone with a gallery full of naked women watching me? no.............
i used to post a lot in thumbshare, but i never started my own threads. i do submit to lots of groups but favs are just?? eh. you can click a button, but how do i know you really like it? or are you just doing it so i'll come to your page, like your art and end up watching you too?
ah yeah but what i'm trying to say i guess? is that it rarely seems like people ever look in the thumbshare forum. and when they do, it's only to push your works out there, not to enjoy other peoples work. same goes for groups too.
i'm always really hesitant to join feedback groups since i usually see works that are of a completely different genre from my work in the gallery. i'm uncomfortable giving feedback that i know nothing about, and subjecting other people to a different genre work than usual makes me feel uneasy as well.
though i'm probably just talking from my point of view since i barely ever get any results alkfjlskf
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you're looking at the glass half empty instead of half full
yes, there are deviants who have 0 comments on dA (they don't even speak english) and yet have thousands of watchers. And yes, it's because of their amazing art. But few deviants are like that
Your art won't stay like this forever, you will improve, and the more you interact and make friends, they will accompany you on this journey to improve, and it's much cooler to do it with friends than doing it alone
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Personally I don't really like receiving comments from most people but I adore giving them. This might change but for now at least, S'all good in that regard.
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I have a question. How do you give llamas to people? I really don't know the DA interface that good yet. ^_^
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Go to someone elses page, and in the upper right corner, there is a dropdown that says "Give", click that and pick Llama from it.
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its great you wrote this, and to say its helpful would be a under statement. but lets be honest, this is more of a users guide of etiquette for over sensitive members who want attention in all the wrong ways..... am i right or am i right.... well done though, the masses need the types of tid bits
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You are incorrect, I do not want attention just for attention, I try hard on my art, whatever it be drawings or photos or what! and I like to know what people think of my art so that Hopefully I can know what they like, what specifically I should try to improve, and what they want to see more of.
(as in do they like Graffiti? photos? geometrical drawings? animals? designs of skateboards or other typees of things? etc.)
It is true that I want to get more views also, yes, but that is again because I work hard and think about my art a lot and just would like to be noticed a bit is all...
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Since I'm trying to learn and grow on several fronts, this is a huge help. Thank you kindly for sharing your experience. I had no idea these things existed.
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Getting some tips tailored to exposure for an original webcomic would be nice 
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This is a helpful journal, I didn't know there were critique groups. I'm grateful to receive numerous comments like "very cute" but sometimes I would like more in depth feedback.
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me too, i love the positive comments
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This is a noble effort, and even though I haven't been suffering for feedback/comments too much in my 2 months here on DA - it never hurts to be educated in the various different means there are of marketing yourself. Feedback is important, but I think whats most important is getting your pieces in front of as many different eyes as possible - and this is a good way to do it. I usually plug a single piece up on more than 50 different groups... thats another way to do it, although it can be very time consuming and probably isn't for everyone.
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i know an artist added her art in over 10 groups everytime, and surprisingly there are deviants out there who complain about that! 
i used to add my art to 40-50 groups in the past, now i get feedback without the help of groups so i stopped but it's a legitimate way of getting your work seen. that's what groups are for.
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I agree 100%, hopefully it gets a little easier for me soon, for the moment thats about my only choice
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Personally, though I appreciate to get feedback, I don't find it necessary. I have gone to a lot of art classes in my day, so I am actually well aware of the parts of my art that are suffering. I can usually see it before I completely finish a piece. My knowledge level far exceeds my skill level, is basically what I'm saying. When people give me feedback they tend to only point out the parts I can improve on, which I am almost always already aware of. I don't really need that type of feedback, so I don't ask.
What you said about people clicking the "Favorite" button is spot on, and I always felt was the best form of compliment for me. I look at picture views and compliments as the best feedback for me.
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Creating and not receiving any feedback is really pain in the neck. It's just depressing, when you do something you consider great, and then, nobody is there to confirm, or deny it. And, as for me, in most of the cases you just slowly stop doing anything which is even worse
Actually, I've started drawing only for my own enjoyment, but then I thought, that some people may like it too. And here comes DA. There may not be many people who like what they find on my page, but I still work and try to improve (though it's hard without any opinions on how I should do it)
Anyway, I'm still creating mostly for myself and close friends. But it feels glorious when I see new feedback message. And the mesage I want to deliver is: Do what brings you pleasure, even if there's not many people who enjoy that, because it is likely to change in the future, and you will be double happy!
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yup, that's what dA is for, to bring artists together and art appreciators as well
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Yeah, and that's why I'm here. Sadly, before I made an account here to upload my works, I used to watch artworks without commenting, or anything. I was just downloading them, to watch them later, or something. And I know, that many people behave the same way. They're just anonymous watchers.
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My group, ProjectComment , just got an influx of new members. As that typically is not the case with the group, I browsed around and came upon this journal. Firstly, I want to thank you for mentioning ProjectComment . It means a lot to me to have people like you supporting the project's aims. Secondly, I agree with what you've said and I hope it reaches out to a lot of people.
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so the mention system doesn't work with groups i see >.> i thought the group would get some kind of notification
well the group deserves to be well known
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Nope, it doesn't include groups thus far.. I do wonder how that would work, though.
Thank you very much!
It's been a long uphill climb for us, as I'm sure it is for many artists out there.
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I'll have to look at all these groups later...I really don't get much feedback at all. I have only one artwork with a decent amount of comments, and half of those are spam (LUCKY ME...). And then I get comments from people I know from Flipline...which is nice and all, but I already know what they think!
I'm glad I joined Flipline before dA, or I would've gone crazy from the lack of action. For guaranteed feedback, small fan forums are the way to go.
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Thanks for the share.
I've been wondering if I had been getting comments in the wrong way.
But now I know what to do.
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Thank you for this entry!
I subconciously want feedback. I don't think I've ever admitted that before.
Oh well. Maybe I just want friends. ~____~
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the thing is, i'm not good in giving feedback to people i really don't know, or people i know but they're not sure about their own artwork, and if i say something, they could get mad.
i'm a bit shy ^^' i do get feedback on a different site, but if i ask around here, i never get feedback.
if i only wasn't that shy.
anyway, i must say this can help a lot. even for someone who isn't sure about who to talk to.
i'll try to join one of those groups for feedback. i really need it XD and i could learn to give feedback as well.
well, i do prefer to give feedback to people with less comments than those with over 100 comments.
this gives me many idea's again XD
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feedback doesn't necessarilly mean 'critique', if someone doesn't request critiques on their deviation, or don't specifically say they want critique, i would refrain from giving critique (pointing out what's wrong or what could be fixed)
if you think commenting simple things like 'great job' or 'this is awesome' is not classified as feedback (as SpinkellaSapphire pointed out) you can try saying what you liked specifically about a drawing, you don't have to write a novel, just say things like 'This looks awesome, i love how you did the hair' the comment remains short and yet it provides feedback to the artists as to where they did right.
deviants might not want to hear where they went wrong in a drawing, but they definitely want to hear what they did right.
if someone requests critique, don't just dump all the negative stuff in there either. Make the critique as a sandwich: good stuff on the top and bottom, and the negative stuff in the middle. it's easier for an artist to digest the information this way and not become bitter and jump at your throat
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I agree with everything here, (better keep my mouth shut about the bad stuff if no one's asking then O A O) except that the top and bottom of the sandwich is good and the middle is bad - I think it's nice to put lots of spread inside and minimalize carbs. XD
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i know ^^
i didn't really thought about that XD but i always try to see positive things in the drawings (i'm better at looking at positive stuff than negative, expect me to be really cheerfull when commenting XD)
mostly, when i see people give serious comments, that's what came in my mind first.
i try to be cheerful. but it can sometimes be a bit overdone by me.
i mostly point out the color and line art use that i really like X3
but i understand your opinion ^^
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I can't help but agree! Sometimes I can only stop by to say, "Great job!" or "Super cool~" and I don't think that's really classified as feedback. v___v;;
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