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Referenced to Lily Green Heart from Food Of the Soul [Green Heart]![Battle] Music: www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Aaue…
Inspired by: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw3pFw…
WARNING! IF YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED THROUGH OR SEEN ALL OF UNDERTALE (PACIFIST/GENOCIDE) THEN I IMPLORE YOU TURN BACK NOW IF YOU WANT TO AVOID SPOILERS!
The music selected sounded so similar to His Theme for Asriel Dreemurr's Boss Battle in the Pacifist Ending that I felt inspired to make something for the Genocide Ending:
At the end of the Pacifist playthrough you battle Asriel Dreemurr, the deceased-prince of the Underground and son to Toriel and Asgore Dreemurr. Asriel Dreemurr absorbs all of the souls of the humans and monsters and becomes an infinite god to fight Frisk. Affectionately named Lily All Heart, this embodiment is the opposite of the Pacifist playthrough; where Frisk, under the guidance of the player through the Genocide playthrough, kills every monster for EXP and LVL (not to mention LOVE).
Alternatively, instead of finding Chara (and having a rather frightening, abrupt ending) the Human Souls retaliate in sorrow due to this turn of events, and a Soul (of your choice, but in this case I chose Lily) leads the others into preventing Frara (Frisk + Chara) from leaving the Underground to destroy mankind. In this scenario Lily has approached Frara in a desperate attempt to reach Frisk and free the child from Chara's murderous influence, and seeing as she is not getting through she absorbs the human Souls and takes in the wandering souls of the monsters killed throughout the Underground to merge into Lily All Heart. Even as she becomes a god, she reaches out her hand to the possessed child in one last effort to save them. If Frisk managed to pull through, Lily All Heart would heal them and send them back to the beginning, wiping the data files to where the child could have a clean slate. If Frisk did not pull through, then the embodiment of the Souls would clash with them, and if defeated, Chara would meet with Frisk and the original Genocide ending would ensue.
I felt this would have been just as good an ending as the Pacifist, and have given voices to the Souls of the fallen humans, but that's personally just me. Anyway, I'd love to hear your feedback as to if you think this would have been a good ending or not!
**A lot of thought went into designing this one; while dressed simply, you can tell that the rest of Lily represents quite a bit more than meet's the eye. The crescent mantle she wears has the Green Heart socketed to give the physical embodiment of Lily, but even then you can see that the rest of the souls have warped her form to look less like the Lily that you're accustomed to. Her hair is short and glows with ethereal energy with the rest of her body, being transparent but still hinting towards her previous hairstyle. Her being is made up of starlight to represent the infinite cosmos that is her being, her Soul being fused with it. She is adorned with shimmering opals, a crown crested at the forehead with two on the shoulders and two on the feet. From the feet extend wings made of feathers, each feather unique to their color and nature to depict each Soul absorbed. Her eyes are colored in hints of rainbow, however the primary color lacking is red; the only red seen here is within the starlight and has nothing to do with the Souls gathered.**
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Wow! This is such an interesting contrast to Sans' avenging angel 
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Sans was brutal and actually trying to kill Genocide Chara/Frisk, but in contrast, Lily All-Heart is trying to refrain from killing them outright. This would actually be more like an alternate Asriel Dreemurr (sp) battle, though the roles are reversed; the boss is trying to maintain hope while Frisk is trying to get to Chara and destroy the world.
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Ah yeah! That makes sense. And...it also really shows how hopeless Sans has become (not that I blame him, being aware of a Groundhog Day situation without all the memories is pretty bad).
[SPOILER ALERT]
Is it really Frisk though? It's a bit hard to tell in the game- I feel like it's almost implying that if you choose Pacifist, you teach Chara mercy (like someone on tumblr said, can't remember who), and give more power to Frisk, to allow them to express themself.
But to choose Genocide tells Chara the Kill or Be Killed mentality is right, and gives THEM more power while undermining Frisk. The players, the mass of minds that is the Anomaly, whoever is active that day, decides that.
And there I go rambling away. Anyways, this is pretty cool, and it's nice to see that someone still has hope.
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Wait, if she's here...and Sans isn't actually killed outside the Judgement Hall...where's Sans?
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All-Heart Lily forms up after the player defeats Sans and tries to carry on to where Asgore is. After Asgore is killed by Flowey, and Chara kills Flowey, then Chara/Frisk moves on to meet "Chara", however before that can happen, All-Heart Lily appears as a final-boss in attempts to stop the player from going through with the Genocide Ending (hence the option that if SHE wins, the files get wiped and you can start fresh if you regretted killing anyone in the past).
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Oh wow. So a final chance, after which there is no going back?
...question, is Lily already dead in this case? Or is she still kind of alive? Like is she corporeal or is she pure spirit?
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Lily Green Heart, the spirit of the deceased child "Lily", is clinically-dead, regardless of appearance; she is a spirit, too, as Lily All-Heart, however she has manifested the Determination of the other Spirits to stop Chara from controlling Frisk and ultimately destroying the world and making the files "corrupt", resulting in keeping a true Pacifist Ending from happening. Lily All-Heart is the possibility that anyone can have a second chance and a clean-slate. Unfortunately, she is dead in all cases; she can never be alive.
As for a "corporeal" form, the closest you can have to Lily on that one is referenced to Lich in the folder Fate of the Soul.
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Ah, I was wondering, since I have this little headcanon regarding Determination power, humans, and the unstable temporal environment in the underground.
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That is a possibility that the temporal environment could be used in that sense! I often pictured if Lily All-Heart was pitted against Asriel Dremurr!
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Well, er, actually, there's that, with timeline crossing (which may occur if one element common to both somehow triggers the events for a foreign timeline while in...whatever timeline they're in) but also I feel like if you have two live humans (and barring other influences like extra souls or anomalies), it'll be impossible to make a save, reload, or reset because of the close proximity of similar Determination levels. Sometime akin to trying to walk backwards and forwards at the same time, regarding game mechanics.
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Determination is equivalent to power and the will to live. In this case, Lily All-Heart is comprised of the remaining 6 Human Souls that were lost in the Underground, so it would be possible for a reset to occur, even against 1 Human Soul with a lot of LOVE, theoretically. Remember; Lily All-Heart is no longer "Lily", but the composition of the Souls that perished. It's why she would be an alternative to Asriel as a boss character, considering that many Human Souls has a lot of power, and Asriel had the same number of Human Souls. The only difference is that the Human Souls can make the Reset, but Asriel had all of the Monster Souls for his LOVE count, making him almost an immortal god. Lily All-Heart has no body and is a being projected by sheer Determination, and without a body, that power can be unstable. That's why Chara has the potential to beat her, but if she defeats the one Human Soul remaining, she can re-write everything and give Frisk a fresh start.
That's all theoretical on my part, though.
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That is really cool and well thought out. I only went far enough to enact a null action environment but you went and took it a step further. Man headcanon exchanges are fun. Ty!
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I always love to think deeper into a theory or a part in a story, just to see what hidden message could be contained therein! I'm glad you enjoy these conversations; I find them quite entertaining!
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Thank you very much for the feedback! I'm pleased to know that you love the expression and concept!
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Thank you very much for your encouragement and feedback!
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You know, I actually really like the concept of this boss. The boss would just be constantly changing up your colour through the battle as the different souls work together to stop you. It could be like the Asriel fight for the Genocide. Maybe with each colour change, you'd see glimpses of the characters you'd murdered on this play through. Maybe have a reversal on the SAVE segment.
You know, going into this game, I actually thought the final boss was going to be something like this. Some kind of celestial like being. If it had been put into the game, I imagine Lily's design would have worked quite well for it.
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I appreciate the feedback! As pertaining to whatever color was chosen the All-Heart would have taken on the overall-physical embodiment of the former bearer of that Soul (ex. green heart = Lily, orange heart = Jimmy, et cetera et cetera). In this case, the Soul chosen is socketed into the mantle-piece to ultimately-reveal which Soul is the wielder of the others. Every Soul design would have a mantle-piece, but probably in a different design and used in a different way. Jimmy Orange-Heart would likely have some sort of tool to use them as a "weapon for defense" since he is the aspect of Bravery, while in contrast we see Lily Green-Heart not using them for much of anything at all, merely to keep them with her and keep them united. As she is the aspect of Kindness, destroying Frisk is the absolute-last measure she would ever take, merely because the rest of the world could be revived if she succeeded, but at the loss of an innocent child at the behest of a genocidal player.
In this picture, it shows a singular frame of struggle and acceptance, one more chance to make a difference, and one last time to make amends so that the player wouldn't have to be stuck doing the Neutral ending indefinitely, and ultimately killing off the rest of the Undertale crew even if you managed to succeed in getting the "Pacifist Ending" (you'd see Chara's smiling face with a portrait of the rest of the Undertale gang, but all of them are crossed out and marked off). I didn't like that loophole, and the fact that players would have to go into the files to delete certain bits of information so they wouldn't keep getting stuck there. At least in this design, the All-Heart could provide a counter-battle in contrast to Asriel. That's why the music was carefully-selected, to give off a theme of "hope" and "forgiveness" and "pain" all at the same time while fighting this boss. Fighting such a benevolent being is supposed to help diminish the Determination and provoke the player into selecting the "Give Up" or "[X Mercy]". Instead of Sans, this would truly be a forgiving aspect and it would send the player back to the beginning and wiping the cache-folder in the game to rewrite it all, starting all the way back at step-one.
I really appreciate the positive feedback on this one, I put a lot of thought into it and love that it could be accepted as canon. I'm sure that Toby Fox and the other developers considered something like this, but didn't want to put the Souls into light; to give them that air of mystery. The REAL speculation is surrounding the Souls that died, not merely on the game, and I think the creators wanted the franchise to soar with creativity on that end.
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