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Description Nordic mythology.

Tl;dr follows.

Lemminkäinen/Logi you've seen before. Oldtimer's his brother Väinämöinen, known in the Norse sagas as Ægir, Hlér or Gymir. While I attempted to retain some characteristics of Gallen-Kallela's representation of him (f.ex. [link] and [link] ), I wanted to give him some of the Jotun fierceness and stateliness as the king of the sea. He has his kantele made from the jawbone of the monsterfish and the sword forged by his brother Ilmarinen (Kári in the Norse myths), whilst the frame is yoinked again from my stereotypical monstermen. I'll settle for 10-12 feet with these guys.

I often use the 'empty eyes' with wizards or ghosts. Väinämöinen's one of the previous, a powerful one, who uses his mightful voice to sing incantations (magic singing is an essential part of Finnish myths/shamanism). It seems both Tolkien's Gandalf and Saruman have traits borrowed from him. Tolkien was a great fan of Finnish mythology, and often took direct influences from it.

Along with being the king of the (Baltic) sea, Väinämöinen's the god of poetry and songs. He's known in the Estonian giant legend Kalevipoeg as Vanemuine. There's also an interesting connection to Beowulf. The hero's father Ecgþeow belongs to the clan of the Wægmundings. The name is astonishingly close to Väinämöinen (g is spelled like the English 'y' ), and chronicles handling the pseudo-mythology of Finno-Scandia (like Gesta Danorum) know a character called Egther the Finn, king of Bjarmaland. I'm not the only one who's been wondering whether Beowulf as a pseudo-mythological character might've come from the clan of Väinämöinen. = P These names are so widely known in the old chronicles and mythology that there is likely a real basis to them, even if they hardly were gods or giants living for hundreds of years in their time. = P

Meh, Lemminkäinen's always a tricky case. How are you supposed to design someone who's the god of love, fire, and magic, and a randy giant at the same time?

Armor designs include a medley of Finnish decorative elements from several historical periods. Swords are kinda Merovingian, Väinämöinen's elk hammer has a stone-age motive, etc. I know, I'm a dork. = P

Stuff to read:
-The Poesy of Skalds [link]
-The Kalevala [link]
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Comments: 56

Hrolfgard [2012-06-04 22:59:01 +0000 UTC]

The Priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiizzeeee

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NautilusL2 [2011-09-26 22:30:18 +0000 UTC]

these are super duper fantastic! Love the lines. wow!

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Zousha [2011-07-06 04:44:22 +0000 UTC]

Huh. I had no idea Väinämöinen and Aegir were the same person. The things you learn on the internet!

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BeauW [2011-05-25 22:30:14 +0000 UTC]

Great detail- I mean- the details connecting to the essence of the characters. Well drawn and also well thought out.

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AThousandRasps [2011-04-20 23:19:42 +0000 UTC]

This is amazing. YOU are amazing.

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Vampire-dreams [2011-03-21 04:00:27 +0000 UTC]

Oooh fantastic job on the details! I love the attitude in the expressions as well.

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ArgentoMorte [2010-12-23 18:58:02 +0000 UTC]

That's fine! I am from Finland. close to me theme. pleased that the figure is made so carefully. Thank you.

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piri-666 [2010-11-20 22:10:08 +0000 UTC]

*O* Kalevala!!! x3 I wanna read this poem X3
uhh excellent draw! I love it!
can i... download it?

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zorm In reply to piri-666 [2010-12-04 19:44:05 +0000 UTC]

I'm not too sure what's the best English translation of the Kalevala and when such a thing has been published, but I suppose you can google for the different versions. Some are available and downloadable in the public domain. One version is this:
part 1 [link]
part 2 [link]

(although I personally find these huge files of text a bit difficult to read)

Yes and you can also download the drawing.

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piri-666 In reply to zorm [2010-12-05 23:07:05 +0000 UTC]

huhuuh... thanks you so much!

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NekuThat1DeadKid [2010-05-22 15:02:55 +0000 UTC]

Nice, They look like viking gods to me, but maybe that's becasue I'm not seasoned int Finnish mythology.

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zorm In reply to NekuThat1DeadKid [2010-05-24 16:44:24 +0000 UTC]

Well, the Finnish Kalevanpojat, id est the Jotun giants, are a part of the Norse pantheon. It just takes a bit of digging to notice that.

FORNJÓTR hefir konungr heitit. Hann réð fyrir Gotlandi (*Jótlandi hdr.), er kallat er Finnland ok Kvenland. Þat er fyrir austan hafsbotn þann, er gengr til móts við Gandvík; þat köllum vér Helsingjabotn. Fornjótr átti þrjá syni. Hét einn Hlér, er vér köllum Ægi, annarr Logi, þriði Kári.

"Jotland", that is Jotunheim, consisted of Kvenland (a Finnic kingdom that was situated along the west coast of the present-day Finland) and "Finnland", which means either Finland Proper or some part of Lapland.

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NekuThat1DeadKid In reply to zorm [2010-05-25 01:29:37 +0000 UTC]

Interesting. Now from what stuff I know, and your gonna hate me for this question, what about thor?

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Vivahde [2010-04-10 07:06:06 +0000 UTC]

Vouh, vähän hienosti yksityiskohtia osaat piirtää.

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zorm In reply to Vivahde [2010-04-17 08:36:28 +0000 UTC]

Kiitti.

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icu-san [2010-04-08 18:36:55 +0000 UTC]

Lol, Lemminkäisen ilme on niin " grauh"

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zorm In reply to icu-san [2010-04-17 18:23:16 +0000 UTC]

Jep, tarkoituksella.

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Boasill [2009-02-22 09:51:46 +0000 UTC]

unohit muuten väinämöisen miekasta ne kuu ja auringon ja tähet ja sillee

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zorm In reply to Boasill [2009-02-24 21:11:54 +0000 UTC]

Nooh, tämä on muutenkin vähän adaptoitu. Muistetaan ensi kerralla.

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Boasill [2009-01-31 16:09:13 +0000 UTC]

aika pitkät hiukset jäyköillä ootkos lukenu kalevalan? itte oon puoli välissä, mut kuiteski erittäin hienot yksityiskohdat tyypeissä on

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zorm In reply to Boasill [2009-01-31 17:50:46 +0000 UTC]

Juuh, olen lukenut sen noin kolme kertaa, ekan kerran varmaan kymmenvuotiaana. Tämä kuva nojautuu vähän enemmän noihin vanhempiin taruihin, mitä Lönnrot aika reippaasti muokkasi Kalevalaa varten. Näissähän Väinämöinen, ym. ovat kalevanpoikia, jättiläisiä, ja asustelevat suurin piirtein Saarenmaa-Turku-Laitila-linjalla. Laitilassa erityisen paljon noita kalevanpoikataruja ja paikannimistöäkin.

Näitä vanhempia juttuja löytyy esim. Mythologia Fennicasta. Kattelin, että myykö esim. Akateeminen kirjakauppa sitä vielä, mutta taitaa olla tilapäisesti loppu sielläkin. Kirjastosta löytynee.

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Boasill In reply to zorm [2009-02-01 09:53:14 +0000 UTC]

kiitos tiedosta. vois noita vanhempia taruja jostain ettiä. ja edelleen MAHTAVA KUVA

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zorm In reply to Boasill [2009-02-01 21:25:46 +0000 UTC]

Kiitosta. Toinen hyvä lähde Gananderin kirjan lisäksi on Suomen kansan vanhat runot -sarja, jos niitä tiiliskiviä nyt jaksaa selailla. Mielenkiintoinen lisä Kalevalalle voisi olla muuten myös tuo Viron kansalliseepos Kalevipoeg, joka kertoo jättiläiskuningas Kalevan pojan seikkailuista Suomessa ja muualla.

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jalmari [2008-11-14 19:40:17 +0000 UTC]

hienoja ovat kyllä! faviks samantien. mutta miks päädyit lemminkäiselle kirveen laittaa? sillähän on nii makee "liekehtivä miekka". flaim-sword kunniaan mut sika hieno silti.

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zorm In reply to jalmari [2008-11-14 20:48:39 +0000 UTC]

Kiitokset. Kirveen pistin hepulle käteen ihan vain vaihtelun vuoksi, koska Väiskillä oli jo miekka. Olen tuota liekehtivää kalpaa käyttänyt kyllä yhdellä toisella hahmolla, joka parodioi Lemminkäistä.

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Jamesaragonastudios [2008-09-12 02:12:50 +0000 UTC]

I'm very impress!

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zorun [2008-08-28 08:12:42 +0000 UTC]

wow great.

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zorm In reply to zorun [2008-11-16 10:59:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Adalrik [2008-08-06 19:41:38 +0000 UTC]

Brilliance. This is how Väinämöinen is really portrayed in Kalevala, with mighty sword and armor and not as some old goat wearing scruffy rags like the late 19th century art often paints him.

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buterissimo [2008-05-10 12:03:26 +0000 UTC]

Very patriotic

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GhostOfMidwinter [2007-12-21 03:56:36 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful work, great char, armor and weapon design and the detail is wonderful as ever. I love their expressions, you really know how to make a character look like it has... uh, character. X3

Look at all the hair! *joy*

I always enjoyed mythology, and it seems I'm lacking some knowledge in finnish myths. Well, never too late to learn something new, off I goes reading!

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Sharraunna [2007-11-15 02:38:15 +0000 UTC]

I especially like the bear-ish shouder armor. Something seems a bit off in the angle of Logi's face, but I'm not sure what. I think it's the differences in his eyebrows.

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zorm In reply to Sharraunna [2007-12-04 12:20:54 +0000 UTC]

I fixed it a bit; there was something a little off. I've included the graphics in the layout already, though, so can't really repair it further.

Thanks!

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Obi-quiet [2007-11-14 23:04:38 +0000 UTC]

Incredible, as always.

You know, you really should tape yourself doing these, and then put it up on Youtube or something like that.

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zorm In reply to Obi-quiet [2007-12-04 12:24:07 +0000 UTC]

Ööääh... I wonder how I could do that. There's some sort of recording option in Painter, but since I swap the files often between three apps, it's not really possible. Some kind of direct screen-recording might work, but since I have two displays and often reffs open in the same screen, it gets rather tricky.

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Obi-quiet In reply to zorm [2007-12-04 17:45:35 +0000 UTC]

*sigh* Well, one can dream, can't they?

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Caethilia-Mordon [2007-11-14 09:01:46 +0000 UTC]

Ooh, smexy.

Gotta love a man who puts so much effort into keeping his hair all long and flowing like that.

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zorm In reply to Caethilia-Mordon [2007-11-14 11:10:24 +0000 UTC]

Or it might be that gods have some sort of self-managing hair. What was it that Pratchett wrote about supernatural inheriting, even if someone's your grandfather only through an apprenticeship? XD

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Caethilia-Mordon In reply to zorm [2007-11-14 11:28:55 +0000 UTC]

This is very true! Damn them and their all-natural looks...

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EgilSterkr [2007-11-14 04:06:40 +0000 UTC]

molemmat äijjät näyttää hienolta! pidän itse tuosta Väinämöisen asusteesta enemmän ( ja soittopelistä )

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zorm In reply to EgilSterkr [2007-11-14 11:13:51 +0000 UTC]

Kiitti. Joo, Väiskin kuteita olikin hauskempi piirtää. Lemminkäisellä hiukan vähemmän sotaisa kostyymi; olisi tietysti voinut jotain haarniskaa hällekin laittaa, mutta onpahan ny tommonen.

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MissLizz [2007-11-14 03:44:54 +0000 UTC]

Wow, they're gorgeous!

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zorm In reply to MissLizz [2007-11-14 11:14:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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xXArxaithXx [2007-11-14 01:32:18 +0000 UTC]

sweet, luv the detail

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zorm In reply to xXArxaithXx [2007-11-14 11:14:08 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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Tizrak [2007-11-14 00:21:14 +0000 UTC]

Yay, more Finnish mythology, drawn very well!

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zorm In reply to Tizrak [2007-11-14 18:14:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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Golden-Dragon-Girl [2007-11-13 22:40:56 +0000 UTC]

XD Lemminkäinen's grin is so whimsical. It fits.

As always, your detailing and anatomy are breathtaking. (Tee hee. Breathtaking anatomy. Pweh.)

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zorm In reply to Golden-Dragon-Girl [2007-11-14 18:12:13 +0000 UTC]

Tee hee. Breathtaking anatomy.

Well, Lemminkäinen's the sort of man who seriously needs his anatomy. Elsewise the whole 'god of love' bit might be a bit difficult to explain.

Thanks. XD

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Reiraku [2007-11-13 22:25:14 +0000 UTC]

Lovely, as always. It's nice to see men who look like, well, men.

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