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[2012-04-03 05:40:29 +0000 UTC]
"aka AlchemyBro"
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# Comments
Comments: 86
Yeah for pose ref I just keep looking all over the internet. If my roommate's not around I take photos of myself and slap on all the missing pieces, no one will notice, right
I think my oldest contribution to the draw generals was a Gil vs Nero staredown in the same pose as Ryu vs Abel from Street Fighter 4. Apparently that was a toxic request as the OR kept asking for the same thing every other month no matter how many people delivered and ended up going to /vg/ drawthreads to do the same thing. Moved to the waifu threads early on because it was a whole lot more supportive at the time and people weren't flinging absolutely specific stuff that would take forever to pull. Like all ongoing traditions on 4chan, though, the threads started getting angry about nothing, too, and some of the cruddy stuff I turned in was getting bashed without direction on how to improve: not going to attack 4chan users for being honest about their kneejerk reactions, part of the reason why I keep delivering there, but it was a dead end critic at that time. Took a break from it for a few months to practice in seclusion until a month or so ago to get a feel if all my studies were getting somewhere.
When did you start anywho? Early year was around late 400 drawthread generals, can only imagine what everyone's stuff looked like before then.
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Hahaha, I sort of do the same thing too except I just go into the bathroom and do some retarded pose and try to remember it, especially the hands.
Ooooo I remember that request, I think I gave it a shot too but I got lazy and never finished it. Man, thats a real dick move by the requester. Yeah, I think the main issue in the waifu thread is /v/ waifus, gwen/mimi/etc etc drawn too often. I wouldn't listen to /a/ honestly, they don't really know anything about drawings themself, they just know that something is wrong but can't point it out. But if you can take criticism well that is a good sign, some artist can't take criticism well and that blocks their progression. I SOMETIME try to critique too but its hard to sound nice because critiques always comes out as offensive ;_; Although, its good to have you back in the thread though. I remember I gave you a really bad critique on your Gwen drawing about how the color was flat or something I don't remember, but I apologize. I notice you use black as your shading, try not to use that, use a dark color of that particular color. I think you're going in the right direction, I was the same, using black as shading and it always didn't come out that nice.
The first time I ever participated in the drawthread was back in feb 2011, and I stopped participating after awhile because the request was very boring. So occassionally I would join a waifuthread made by drawfags already then those thread stopped. Then the weekly waifu thread began and here I'am now. To this day I still don't have a given name since I don't have a steady style ;_;
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lol so that was where the commentary was from
The trick for critiquing as far as I'm aware of is to butter up first. In art classes everyone's scared gutless because they know that this student is better at that and that student is better at this, so to ease each other up, we start class-to-one critiques by saying 'this part is working.' And then we dig in with the knives. The praise should come before the bashing, imo doing the opposite is like slamming a bat to someone's head and then sticking your hand out expecting that they'll take it to help themselves up.
Yeah, a lot of us don't have names, apparently. Always thought the 'secret irc club' were the only folks that contributed. So long as someone is happy with the deliveries being made, can't call it a complete problem
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Yeah, well atleast you didn't put it up on /ic/ they will probably tear you a new one. Its ok, it takes practice with coloring. When I first began I use black for coloring as well and it looked terrible.
I think that's the way to go really, I was never good at listening to critiques but looking at all these great artist, I realize that critiques can be very helpful. Haha, I think its best when a critique comes out reasonable where the artist can understand and is not offended. My brother tells me that the professors at his school are so straight forward, they don't praise you, they go straight to critiquing the piece itself. But I guess it depends on the person, I'm slowly getting used to bashing myself, being an artist is suffering ;_;
tbh, I sort of enjoy being anonymous, don't know why. Yeah definitely, if someone is happy than it is worth it. But then there's always those that will be 'my waifu hasn't been drawn' etc etc, can't satisfy everyone.
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lol when the time comes I'll stick something in /ic/ concerning digital coloring, til then I'll take my kick in the pants from /a/
Yeah, critiquing is always a hard pill to take. Still, a thorough explanation from someone telling you what's wrong also has the unspoken understanding that what you're doing is good enough to motivate them to give you a hand, and also practiced enough for them to see where you gaps in capabilities are for you to get to the next level. I mean, some of the best things you can say to some contributors is 'just practice more;' there's so many anatomical, tone, and perspective errors on what they just asked a critique for that no one knows where to start.
It is good to be anonymous, there is the perk of freedom to it. Some of those waifu requesters, though, they show up so often it feels kind of bad not doing something for their dedication.
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Take your time man, 4chan is going no where hopefully, you've got great progression so far.
Yeah, saying 'practice more' is definitely the easiest way, just sort of feels bad when there are just so many wrong with a picture you just don't want to say 'everything is wrong'
I guess you're right, being anonymous has its perks. Yeah, I always see the same waifus every week, its a lot of dedication but they also shit post which sucks.
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That's true, there's always a pump of new people coming in and older drawfriends randomly showing up on and off that it's easy to slip out to continue personal progression. Its sweet that the OC threads are still in good gear, nice to be able to post somewhere and not have to be about an idea or waifu someone else wanted.
Never understood the anger that shows up on the waifu threads, aside from that burning bear poster and whoever keeps posting that chat about starting storms to attract drawfriends. I can get some of the folks that show up repeatedly, there really is no fanart of some of the characters, but the whole gwen thing and not even using standardized op messages like how it used to be so the thread can be found in neet, I just don't get it.
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Haha speak of the devil, look what happen to the OC thread, there is no sacred place on /a/! Its like everything MUST burn, how depressing.
The waifu thread is just full of mess I don't even know, shitposters and what not. On monday, Gawainbro, Elaizy and I made a thread together and of course shit storm followed because 'hurdur you guys are slow', 'this shit sucks compared to mags and sai, even mags and sai can do better quality in shorter time', 'my waifu didnt get drawn' etc etc. There is no pleasing anyone, but I'll still draw for them...I won't give up on these guys ;_;
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It's like inducing stockholm syndrome on yourself
The loud waifu browsers have no idea what they want: when asked they say they favor quality over quantity, then they start arguing that nothing's getting posted. If they do get a delivery that doesn't please everyone else, they'll bash it for hours before the OR shows up and says thanks. Then you get people like the sonar impostor and wonder why anyone would even bother putting that much effort into something that pointless.
But someone's appreciating the deliveries, at least moreso than what the vocal minority can stop. Anyway, if this is what it takes to get better through fire, well, the only question at that point, I guess, is either rising up or backing down.
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Haha, yeah I guess thats why its sort of nice for drawfags to band together. It does suck that the OC thread dies but they're kind of right, not everyone can produce art every hour of the day. I liked the OC a fair bit too except for circle jerking I guess, I admit I'm jealous ;_;
It would be nice if the waifu thread were more civilized...oh wait, /a/ civilized hahaha. It can't be help really, Theres just so many request and you can only do so much with a given timeframe. I'm just curious why there is SO many /v/ waifus not that I don't mind them. Pretty much, drawing for waifu thread is like going through hell, must go through the hurdle.
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lol ya, waifu weekends are like marathons every time. The influx of /v/ is probably a mix of /vg/ drawthreads attracting a certain type of drawstyle and /v/ and /a/ sharing character designers anywho. Personally never cared too much what shows up as a request there, just as long as they don't ask for specifics. Just glad the mods/janitors are swinging the banhammer more often.
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The /vg/ board has their own thread and its only /v/ related waifus only, not that I don't mine some of the /vg/ waifus but I just don't know some of them. The mods/janitors are watching the thread and cleaning it up? seriously? felt the same or maybe I'm just imagining things. This week though, is a lot calmer and dead compared to the previous weeks. The the you did is pretty cool over the weekend.
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Yeah, this week was a lot slower than usual, but then again it could be how actually active last week was when all the hate storm is taken out.
To me it looked like there was more cleaning as there looked to be a lot more deleted posts that people had responded to. It might be just me, though: was actually not planning to join in on this week's fun as working on a larger image as a sort of a 'see how far you can stretch right now' project. Been giving me roadblocks all over the place, though
Sweet work on Tthal's present, btw!
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I kind of nice and quiet that the thread is now slower though. I'm glad someone else asked if its ok to post a drawing the following week because that gives me time to pump out some quality.
Yeah now that I think about there were a lot of posts deleted huh, no wonder why it felt so slow and quiet. Haha, you couldn't give into the temptation huh, its cool though that you're working on a larger image, its a good challenge to oneself. Don't worry though, I think you'll get it eventually, just gotta be patient.
Thanks, that drawing went through so many early sketches and coloring the lineart is just so horrifying.
Have you been looking at the general thread? man, that place got worse compared to the last time I remembered it, now its just 'Orta you're so good because you're a girl" and "dA tier shit" "go to gaia" it might become the new waifu thread shitstorm oh god.
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oh man, personally just stopped reading comments on the generals thread and just kept to looking at what others made, place is bipolar beyond comprehension. Haven't heard of Orta til you mentioned, she does have sweet coloring, but what's with the praise for being female? I thought Magister, Panties, Elaizy, and Megane are all female but that's brought up next to never (or I'm just misinformed).
lol I always thought it was acceptable for drawfriends to spend some extra time during the week to do a delivery they felt they could do justice to. There's usually a few anons that would bring up a delivery after saying they'd finish it over some time: laughing Gwens for me was a week long project. Post them WIPs if you got em! Hopefully next waifu weekend will stay as calm.
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Only Magister and Panties are guys. I think it has to do with the fact that Orta is actually pretty good at drawing plus being a girl and she does a lot of the request too. There was this artist I've heard a while back though, he was called omega drawfag, I hear his stuff was amazing. Sadly I was not around then ;_;
Ah, I always thought of it was 'try to finish it during the weekend' type thing. The laughing Gwen took a week? oh damn, then again you did go the whole 9 yards and gave them all these details.
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Ya the waifu threads usually are pumping out as much as you can within the allotted weekend time you've got, but no one's going to bash you for delivering something that you put effort into (well, there's less expectation for that). The expectation of going fast is probably emphasized by BB, who does a hell of a lot for every waifu thread but has explained some time ago that he gets bored with a drawing really fast, which is why its rare to see him 'finish' something, whatever constitutes as finished to the general browsers of the threads. In either case, providing a thoroughly worked on delivery is rare enough for people to really hate it, and its not like you can't just pick up a small request in the middle of a break, half the reason why most of the stuff I do is in Alchemy to be honest
Never heard of omega, for me by the time I joined the generals everyone was already pining for the good old days. Whoever's been around the older days needs to post whatever they grabbed, can't even find anything by omega in the drawfriend boorus. The current general and waifu threads aren't great and most likely comparably worse than what they were, but they're still workable for what they are. Just wish the OP creator of the waifu threads needs to use the same block of text as the generals, though.
In any case, there's probably a lot of anonymous drawfriends that hide their true potential. Here's one of the contributors to the /vg/ drawthreads where the Thage requester also shows up:
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Now check out the rest of his gallery, guy's a professional artist that probably just takes random requests for scrap warmup. Never know who shows up to these things, no matter what age of drawthread we're currently experiencing.
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Ah, no wonder why I haven't seen BB's stuff, that explains a lot. I guess you're right, thats what I try to do anyways, try to pick up a small request but its not very interesting as of lately, oh well can't be help.
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Yeah,that would be nice if the waifu thread had a text, like a general guideline or something. The OC thread could probably use one too assuming it keeps going.
Man, that is crazy, I did not know /vg/ had a good artist like that. This guy is really good and I dig a lot of his stuff. I'm quite impressed because the last time I visited /vg/'s drawthread it was alright, just a bunch of lewd drawings and stuff.
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Lol it's not so much that the guy draws really well for the /vg/ drawthread, that sketch of Thage is essentially the height of level he presents there or anywhere on any drawthread since he never uses a name. There's probably a couple of submitters to the /a/ drawthreads that use it as a punching bag before doing their real work somewhere else.
/vg/ has a weird mix of styles, aside from the lewdness that's growing exponentially: the single line of defense that waifu drawthreads thankfully frown upon crossing. Never drew for /vg/, personally, but there are some sweet deliveries, especially the dark souls artist that shows up randomly, he pumps out pen sketches you'd expect from an 80s D&D book. Not sure how the other drawthreads fare, or if they also submit to a booru of their own.
Kind of wonder if it is frowned upon if the stuff from OC gets posted on the booru. As much as the super secret special irc club is rumored about, kind of wonder if they actually do discuss any sort of 'official conduct' there: chat is always dead whenever I lurk it. I think the unspoken agreement among all of us is that we're all in this to get better, so hopefully a place we can communally put stuff on is made.
Speaking of which, do you know how livestreaming works? Wondering if we can all make a timeslot in showing our own processes.
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That makes sense I guess but man thats kind of surprising, its like a hidden gem. I guess every board has their hidden gem it seems.
Haha, it seems the /vg/ drawthreads aren't so much different than /a/ it seems. It's like I'm looking at our clone! Dark souls artist? that sounds interesting and he draws with pencil too? I love pencil drawings, they always look so good.
I'm not sure honestly, I havent seen any OC stuff in the booru at all. I think most of the older drawfags usually have each other in contact in some ways besides IRC, maybe they do talk about official conduct, who knows. The IRC is mostly dead, I've been there like 5 times and most of the time it was dead.
I've livestreamed before, for video games but that was it. I think have a timeslot would be really tough because not everyone has a specific time they will draw.
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Nuts maybe a youtube channel or something, really want to see how everyone goes about their stuff, all that's out there are speed paints with weird dubstep songs playing full blast or shortcut tricks.
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now that I think about it, livestream DOES have a recording system when you livestream so maybe that could work. Now I feel bad because I have dubstep songs playing too BUT I have other songs too ;_______;
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lolol its alright as long as the material is helpful. Will bug you about livestreaming and recording when I gots more free time, busy til Sunday this weekend so less waifu fun for now.
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Ah alright, man even though you're busy you still manage to squeeze a picture out haha.
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lol you're the one that's part of a 365 group. My own error was not picking up the pencil for most of all of last year and then some - gotta make up for lost time and embed the practice of going at it until it feels uncomfortable not do.
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True, honestly anyone is welcome to do the challenge. Oh man, I know that feel, it feels bad when you come back and tell yourself "wtf happen to me". You're doing tons of practice though so you'll get back in no time.
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lol I'll ask to join in on the fun probably in a week or so - after seeing you guys take the leap into backgrounds I'm lagging behind and seriously need a place where I can learn from others on that sort focus. Gotta keep expanding!
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haha, alright just let me know. Backgrounds is cool man, a lot of people should do it too, it can look so beautiful. I'm sure you'll catch up with some motivation in no time. Thats what artist for man! to help each other out.
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wow great style! i love these! keep up the good work!
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Thanks, and thanks for the faves!
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no problemo~
(i suggest you develope these!)
your art reminds me of a sort of african style
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Well thank you. It's very much appreciated.
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