CDRaccoon In reply to sweetwreck [2012-10-09 14:15:07 +0000 UTC]

No problem m8, thanks for the points ^^

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CDRaccoon In reply to vojis [2012-05-09 10:50:15 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome ^^

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vojis In reply to CDRaccoon [2012-05-09 11:00:21 +0000 UTC]

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CDRaccoon In reply to TalonCrusher [2012-04-16 03:01:07 +0000 UTC]

Been burning to get that one off as soon as you came home from school?

personally I don't have any sexual atraction toward the mlp characters.
My love for the series comes from the great writing, acting, and animation work... Oh and the songs, lets not forget the songs, they're the best.

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TalonCrusher In reply to CDRaccoon [2012-04-16 11:13:18 +0000 UTC]

School? I know you go to school now you mentioned it. Me however, I've long past that my dear.

Your white knighting charade is exceptionally halarious. Have you heard of Fandumb? It's when a fantard is so exceptionally eager to sell themselves to company that they stop at nothing to get you to lick their ass. Hasbro have you by the leash and it's so funny to watch : >

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CDRaccoon In reply to TalonCrusher [2012-04-17 01:37:48 +0000 UTC]

Well Uni is a school too, but Im struckling to grasp where one would get you kind of schoolyard humor except for a schoolyard of course.

So... let me get this straight...

Im a "Fandumb", or I am "Fandumb", and Hasbro got my by the balls, because, I...

Eerrh...

*phew* [making mental leaps and twists]

Because I am glad that they made a backgound character canon using fan-made character traits...

And then I got angry because they let themselves be bullied into selfcensorship by; a group of actively-looking-to-be-offended-selfrightious-haters.

And then proceeded to write a comment regarding my feelings on the subject, to people i found had supported the censoship side?

somthing like that?

I don't know, Yoda would add that; "this, sense does not make"

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CDRaccoon In reply to Kentora [2012-03-28 07:57:07 +0000 UTC]

See here's what I don't get. When you cry and whine because you are "offended" by the crosseyed pony, then you are supposedly a hero for having it censored, but If you oppose the censorship of said crosseyed pony, then you are a guy vacationing in stupid town, while getting ones knickers in a twist?

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Kentora In reply to CDRaccoon [2012-03-28 08:19:48 +0000 UTC]

Holy shit haha, all of that just flew over your head, didn't it.
Let's get a couple of things straight, since it's obvious that I have to spell it out for you.
1) No, you are not regarded as a fucking "hero" if you're offended by Derpy. My, I'm absolutely baffled as to where you'd get that idea, considering Yamino received over one hundred and fifty pages of death threats, insults, and slurs on her deviantART page because she was offended by Derpy and apparently "caused the death of her".
2) You're using the word "censorship" as if it actually belongs here. How about no. We're talking about a cartoon character whose voice got changed in one episode because it did not sit well with some parents. Do you know what MLP's main demographic is? Children. That said, Hasbro has to tread very lightly in order to keep the parents of those children supporting the show. They can't afford to offend their viewers. In case you've forgotten, the entertainment world runs on money. If the viewers get offended, they don't tune in to watch the show, and Hasbro loses money. There's the story for you.

By all means, it's okay to oppose a change you don't like. However, it's not okay to specifically target one individual who had absolutely nothing to do with that change. Also it's not okay to act like a total moron. Yamino played absolutely no part in Derpy's voice change, and Hasbro confirmed this. Do you honestly believe somebody would feel an OVERWHELMING amount of guilt and be HAUNTED for the rest of their life over posting a rant about a fictional character?

Lastly, Derpy wasn't murdered. Let's just put aside how ridiculous it was to even use the word "murdered" in this case. Did you somehow fail to notice that she's still appearing in every single episode as a cameo, the way it has been for a while? Please, if you would be so kind, pull your head of out of that deep, dark hole that is filled with bullshit, and stop being so entitled. Hasbro doesn't owe you or any of the fans anything. They constantly go out of their way to please everybody, but it's just not possible to do that, and you gotta deal with it.

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CDRaccoon In reply to Kentora [2012-03-28 08:25:57 +0000 UTC]

"...but it's just not possible to do that, and you gotta deal with it."

OR, the people Offended by derpy could just deal with it?

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Kentora In reply to CDRaccoon [2012-03-28 20:44:43 +0000 UTC]

It's really amazing how you can just disregard every other valid point I've made, and instead, point out a single one and reply with one very weak sentence. You have my applause for that, since after all, it only proves that you're really as ignorant as I thought.

Did you realize how selfish that sounded before hitting the "send" button on that comment? Welp, apparently not. Here, let me explain HOW and WHY Derpy can be found offensive in that scene to some people, even though she is not very offensive to me.
It was because many parents saw that scene, where Derpy is being clumsy and causing trouble with Rainbow Dash, as if it was sending the message that a) people with disabilities are a complete joke, or b) people with disabilities cause nothing by inconveniences to others. Hasbro even released an official statement explaining this. Open your fucking eyes and at least try to see the situation from someone else's point of view. You're not the only person on the entire earth who's opinion matters.

Regardless, my original point was that you're getting way too worked up about this, and targeting an individual with your blind anger and condescending pity is wrong.

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CDRaccoon In reply to Kentora [2012-03-29 04:38:42 +0000 UTC]

For one, I have spent hours replying to those exact points again, and again in this comment section, if you'd like a response that utterly
defeat your points, then be my guest and go back in the record and find them, im certainly not wasting my time on it.

So every clumsy character is offensive, and needs to be removed, because SOMONE out there might relate that to [insert random stuff in people's lives here], why should we care that they are offended? The fact that they are offended, offends; me.
And does that meen that Hasbro should remove snails as well? I mean, that pony is borderline retarded.

"Regardless, my original point was that you're getting way too worked up about this,
and targeting an individual with your blind anger and condescending pity is wrong."

The fact that I went out and found somone that had been a vocal part of the anti-Derpy side of the debare, and then told that person exactly what I felt about her actions, oppinions, and the damege she wrought, is "wrong" how?

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Kentora In reply to CDRaccoon [2012-03-29 16:37:34 +0000 UTC]

No, not every clumsy character is offensive. You're using the "oh, but if THIS is like this, than ALL of this must be like this" argument, but from what I can see, this is no appropriate place for it.
Derpy's voice made her sound like she was a mentally-handicapped character, not to mention her derped eyes. That's why it was changed. Snails sounds stupid, but not mentally deficient.
Seriously? You're offended by people getting offended? Wow, excuse them if they've had different personal experiences than you and are affected by things in a different way. They could have a sibling or a cousin that is mentally handicapped, and their reason for taking offense could be because it looked like Derpy's disorder was only causing problems for other people. This is only one example. Here's a quote from Hasbro:
"The 'My Little Pony Friendship is Magic' series has always been about acceptance and inclusion, and the series strives to convey that through the playful antics of a diverse cast of characters. Some viewers felt that aspects of the episode 'The Last Roundup' did not stay true to the core message of friendship which is the heart and soul of the series. Hasbro Studios decided to make slight audio alterations to this single episode."

So here you admit that you actively searched for people who were on the other side of the argument, and gave them your "pity", and wished them ill? Tried to give them the guilt trip? Look, it's entirely okay to give other people your opinion on their opinion. But it isn't okay to be insulting to them while doing that, and to contribute to the hundreds of pages of insults and death threats they've already gotten, especially when they weren't directly responsible for the problem in any way. They were only voicing their opinion on the matter. You know, it's entirely possible to voice your opinion without being a condescending douche.

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CDRaccoon In reply to Kentora [2012-03-29 16:58:23 +0000 UTC]

I really can't be blamed that you haven't read the other posts where I perfectly outline, how and why I found Yamino.

But alas.

Your kind of people are the reason why we can't have nice things.

"Some viewers felt that aspects of... " And so what? why should they get to ruin it for the rest of us?

People like you and Yamino are actively looking to take offence, Why?

Why can't we have nice things?

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Kentora In reply to CDRaccoon [2012-03-29 23:06:49 +0000 UTC]

Did you entirely disregard every time I've said "I'm not personally offended by Derpy"? Please read more carefully next time. I'm being honest when I say that it takes an awful lot to offend me. What I have been doing here is looking at the issue from a different perspective, which you have completely failed to do. When it comes to debates, you have to first see the situation from both sides if you want to create a good argument against the side you do not favor, and if you want to understand why people feel that way.
Not everyone is "actively looking to take offense", you know. Has it ever occurred to you, that by some miracle, some people are genuinely offended? Again, back to what I said previously. Everyone has different reactions to things, and these reactions are relative to what has happened in their life and their own experiences. Not everyone shares the same opinion with you for that reason, and that's something everyone has to grit their teeth and deal with it instead of whining about it when it's already said and done. It's fine to voice your opinion, but you can't expect it to always make a difference. Which is what I seem to be doing right now.

Oh no, they changed her voice in one single episode, and suddenly you feel that it's justified to flip your shit. Some people found it offensive, so they changed it. It really should not be this big of a monumental fucking deal. Derpy still appears in new episodes as a cameo, and she still has derped eyes, and she still does clumsy things.
Hasbro has been enormously generous to their "brony" fanbase, and they have sacrificed quite a bit for them, but they change ONE THING for the sake of their main demographic, and suddenly they're tyrants and a big feud breaks out? Is this really how you repay them for all they've done for you?

Hasbro's main demographic is kids, and they are going to cater to that demographic more than the bronies because it's for the sake of staying in business.

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CDRaccoon In reply to Kentora [2012-03-30 02:32:53 +0000 UTC]

[After reading the first lines]

---> [link] <---

Infact you are the one disregarding what I have said, not the other way around.

---> [link] <---

Oh, and this is gonna be a long one, enjoy.

Alright lets start: Im gonna try too answer this as simply as possible, this may involve some links, don't be alarmed, they're harmless.

Do you know why you are one of "those" people which fault it is we can't have nice things?
Because you believe that it is okay to smash somthing that some people enjoy, just because somone else does not.
So I'll ask you again; Why cant we have nice things? ---> [link] <---

"What I have been doing here is looking at the issue from a different perspective, which you have completely failed to do."
This here is called projection, While I HAVE looked at it from the other side, and deemed their possision invalid,

(this may help you understand why: [link] )

you on the other hand have not spent a second trying to understand that some people actually enjoyed Derpy Hooves.
You have not tried to understand what she ment to the community, what kind of symbol she was, a symbol of a company
100% embracing a fan base.
By not trying to understand this point of view, you have completely lost the context that gives rise to such pure happiness,
and desparate anger which Derpy Hooves inspires.

(Examples: [link] [link] [link] and of course [link] )

"..."actively looking to take offense", you know. Has it ever occurred to you, that by some miracle, some people are genuinely offended?"

They are offended? My answer: [link]

It shouldn't matter that they are offended, they should just leave it be! Thats what you are telling me to do right? leave it be? let them
censor the shit out of everthing they dont like? Why should I stand for that?

Why can't we have nice things?

"Everyone has different reactions to things, and these reactions are relative to what has happened in their life and their own experiences."

---> [link] <---

Alright, there is a Danish social satire film called "How do we get rid of the others?".
In that movie there is a man suffering from alcoholism, which not only sounds like, but also looks frightingly
like my farther (who is also an alcoholic), While I enjoy the rest of the movie, I find myself saddend by the scenes in which he appears,
as it hits a little too close to home. Should I call the Nordic Films Company, and demand that, that character is changed/removed digitally
from all copies of that film? or should I simply realize that other people not nesseraly share my hurt, and just learn to live with it?

(The latter is the correct answer)

"Oh no, they changed her voice in one single episode, and suddenly you feel that it's justified to flip your shit."

From that line, id think you'll would pick the first answer, Which explains why you won't let us have nice things.

And for Hasbro, yes they have done alot for us, and we are gratefull, but that dossn't change the sheare dissapointment many bronies have
over them taking away canon Derpy. Just like we Don't own them, they don't own us, dissapoint us, and we will be dissapointed.
And they'll hear for it.

Oh and last question ---> [link] <---

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Kentora In reply to CDRaccoon [2012-03-30 07:46:28 +0000 UTC]

Oh my fucking goodness, do you really have to use the age-old phrase, "this is why we can't have nice things" already? It's overused, it's not funny, it's not clever, it's just downright stupid to use so many times in succession. Please at least try to come up with something witty. Witty is entertaining, but so far this conversation has not entertained me much at all.

Anyways, there are so many things wrong with what you just said. Let's just start from the beginning.
"you on the other hand have not spent a second trying to understand that some people actually enjoyed Derpy Hooves.
You have not tried to understand what she ment to the community, what kind of symbol she was, a symbol of a company
100% embracing a fan base.
By not trying to understand this point of view, you have completely lost the context that gives rise to such pure happiness,
and desparate anger which Derpy Hooves inspires."
Speaking of projections and assumptions, I think you may be creating one right now.
I did like Derpy's voice. I thought it was funny and cute, but after the official statement from Hasbro and a bit more elaboration on the issue, I understood that it may offend others, even if it did not offend me personally at all.
I know that everyone loves Derpy. I know that Derpy is beloved, but she was NEVER SMASHED OR MURDERED OR A VICTIM OF CENSORSHIP. This is what you're not getting: You are using hyperboles. SHE IS STILL THE SAME DERPY YOU KNOW AND LOVE, IN NEW AND OLD EPISODES. She still has derped eyes, she still does funny clumsy things, she is still a cameo, just like how it should have stayed, in my opinion. SHE'S STILL HERE. Stop being so goddamn melodramatic.

Like I have said, COUNTLESS TIMES, it's okay to voice opinions. But it's not okay to be rude and mean towards someone who was not even fully responsible, and who did not deserve all the fucking death threats and hate they received over such a ridiculous matter.

Okay, see how you're voicing your opinion about Derpy being changed? Well, the people who were offended by her were just voicing their opinion as well. I really sincerely doubt they ordered Hasbro to CHANGE it. It seems very likely that they only expressed their dislike or offense to it, not flat-out went into a rage and demanded it to be changed. Of course, I am only speculating here, and I do not speak for everyone who contacted Hasbro about it, but it's very unlikely that they would straight up tell them to change it. Once again, Hasbro did what they had to do in order to keep getting money from those viewers who complained. The bronies are not the only audience here, and you really seem to be underestimating just how small the brony group is in comparison to Hasbro's main demographic of kids.

"It shouldn't matter that they are offended, they should just leave it be! Thats what you are telling me to do right? leave it be? let them censor the shit out of everthing they dont like? Why should I stand for that?"
In the entertainment industry, the consumers are the ones who control it. If the audience dislikes or takes offense at something, the people behind that something will receive complaints. Many complaints. Then they will lose money. So, then they have to act on those complaints, and make a change to prevent losing any more money.

Like your use of the aforementioned tired meme phrase, your use of pony images is neither funny, clever, endearing, insulting, or condescending. It's just stupid. Are you really resorting to macro images to express parts of your argument? Really?

Really, what are you expecting to accomplish now? The episode is said and done. They aren't going to change the voice back to the original. And now they're keeping Derpy as a cameo in every episode once again, putting things back to the way they were in order to prevent another clusterfuck of problems like this. It was a very risky move to give Derpy a real voice anyways, because among her fanatics, there will always be people who do not like when a fanon-centered character suddenly becomes too canon.

Anyways, I'm pretty much done with this argument, because I really don't feel like putting up with any more of your bullshit. You'll probably either a) call me a coward or b) accuse my argument of being weak because I'm backing down. Of course, I believe neither of those to be true, because I'm stepping away for the sole reason of not wasting any more of my time with this trivial shit. Either way I really wouldn't give a fuck what you thought about me. So have a nice day.

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CDRaccoon In reply to Kentora [2012-03-30 14:25:37 +0000 UTC]

---> [link] <---

"Oh my fucking goodness, do you really have to use the age-old phrase, "this is why we can't have nice things" already?"

---> [link] <---

- Yes ---> [link] <---

"Please at least try to come up with something witty."

- Why? It is a genuine question.

"I understood that it may offend others, even if it did not offend me personally at all.
I know that everyone loves Derpy. I know that Derpy is beloved, but she was NEVER SMASHED OR MURDERED OR A VICTIM OF CENSORSHIP"

---> [link] <---

- Restricting ones speach in order too avoid consequences IS censorship.

"In the entertainment industry, the consumers are the ones who control it. If the audience dislikes or takes offense at something, the people behind that something will receive complaints..."

---> [link] <---

- Im a consumer too, you know?

- But you failed to anser my question; should I, or should I not, have the Nordic Film Company censor the alchoholic character in "How do we get rid of the others?

"Are you really resorting to macro images to express parts of your argument? Really?"

---> [link] <---

- Yes.

"Really, what are you expecting to accomplish now? The episode is said and done. They aren't going to change the voice back to the original."

- A murder is also said and done, should we really hold anyone accountable?

"Anyways, I'm pretty much done with this argument, because I really don't feel like putting up with any more of your bullshit. You'll probably either a) call me a coward or b) accuse my argument of being weak because I'm backing down."

---> [link] <---

---> [link] <---

- You forgot "c) all of the above"

---> [link] <---

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Kentora In reply to CDRaccoon [2012-03-30 14:39:23 +0000 UTC]

Good for you, using awful pony macros to prove your point. That's the true sign of someone mature and skilled at arguments right there.

So, like I said, I don't really give the slightest fuck, so bye! I know when to quit a lost cause, so have fun arguing over fucking cartoon ponies.

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CDRaccoon In reply to Kentora [2012-03-30 14:54:50 +0000 UTC]

---> [link] <---

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CDRaccoon In reply to aneica [2012-01-26 12:48:38 +0000 UTC]

You are most welcome ^^

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CDRaccoon In reply to 7Dreamwolfstears [2011-07-15 13:02:37 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome ^^ and thanks for the Llama ^^

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7Dreamwolfstears In reply to CDRaccoon [2011-07-15 13:03:48 +0000 UTC]

nothing <3 my pleasure ^^

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CDRaccoon In reply to Potkanka [2011-07-15 13:02:09 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome^^ and thanks for the Llama ^^

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Potkanka In reply to CDRaccoon [2011-07-15 14:07:51 +0000 UTC]

Np

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CDRaccoon In reply to skyecladdancer [2011-07-15 12:55:14 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome ^^

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CDRaccoon In reply to PigSaint [2011-07-15 12:54:15 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome ^^

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CDRaccoon In reply to YippieYaYeeh [2011-07-15 12:53:11 +0000 UTC]

You're Welcome ^^

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CDRaccoon In reply to UltraRaccoon [2011-03-31 15:16:01 +0000 UTC]

Ah well ^^ you are most welcome ^^

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CDRaccoon In reply to UltraRaccoon [2011-03-31 14:58:14 +0000 UTC]

"Yas" ?

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CDRaccoon In reply to blustrawburri [2011-01-20 07:03:57 +0000 UTC]

your welcome, people like him simply makes me so darn angry..

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blustrawburri In reply to CDRaccoon [2011-01-20 07:11:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. You can tell how "mature" he really is.. *nudge nudge*

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CDRaccoon In reply to Christylau [2010-12-27 13:42:59 +0000 UTC]

You got to "preorder" the DA tinfoil hat, erh, can't remember the link, but it's in the store (and no worries, you worn't be charged for the hat, it is "out of stock" ^^)

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Christylau In reply to CDRaccoon [2010-12-28 05:06:32 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the help! XD

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CDRaccoon In reply to ScottyArtz [2010-10-09 18:51:54 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome ^^

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