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Deep-Brown ♂️ [1577019] [2005-04-19 08:24:14 +0000 UTC] "You own the universe. I own you." (United Kingdom)

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# Interests

Favorite writers: Iain (M.) Banks. Tolkein. Terry Pratchett.

# About me

Operating System: slamd64, Windows 7, webOS
MP3 player of choice: laptop
Shell of choice: X.org/fvwm, explorer.exe, zsh

# Comments

Comments: 553

StormOfGrey [2009-04-15 01:21:36 +0000 UTC]

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StormOfGrey In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-04-19 04:58:33 +0000 UTC]

I suppose I'll have to, soon. I was going to wait until Windows 7 came out to repart my hard drive and do a lot of other stuff I've been putting off, but I guess I'll have to get off my arse and do it since I may very well have my laptop before then.
What I liked about LXDE is it's supposed to be specifically designed to use less electrical power (in processing time), which is great for laptops. Heard of any others like that?

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StormOfGrey In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-04-19 04:59:07 +0000 UTC]

I am a dolt.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-04-18 10:15:03 +0000 UTC]

Seen it, never tried it.

Try it and see? I'm happy with slamd64.. :/

As for LXDE, my honest opinion is: *box or *wm if you want a slim interface. FVWM for customisability. Fuck the rest.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-04-19 04:58:59 +0000 UTC]

I suppose I'll have to, soon. I was going to wait until Windows 7 came out to repart my hard drive and do a lot of other stuff I've been putting off, but I guess I'll have to get off my arse and do it since I may very well have my laptop before then.
What I liked about LXDE is it's supposed to be specifically designed to use less electrical power (in processing time), which is great for laptops. Heard of any others like that?

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-04-19 15:18:43 +0000 UTC]

Get a touchbook: [link] .
Only, $399... or $299 without the keyboard.

Moblin, I think. That said, except in something like an ARM setup, the power taken up by your proc is negligible in comparison to Hard Disk, chipset, etc. etc... Unless the proc is running 100% all the time. Which isn't gonna happen, not even with a desktop OS..

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-04-20 02:23:46 +0000 UTC]

Mmmm. That is appealing. I suppose I'll see if I can arse myself to save up the extra money. Not too likely, but. Also it's got a proprietary OS. :/

Eee pc doesn't have a hard drive. At least, not the one I want. But muh.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-04-20 09:45:36 +0000 UTC]

No, its based on linux. And, as its ARM you can install what you like? Except windows, but considering your semi-rabid stallmanism then, I doubt you'll be doing that.

swap it out for the one you do want? It's only IDE. Hell, after I bother to spend the money on a WWAN card, the next thing I'm getting is a bigger hard disk for t'laptop - you can have my old one. Should fit in pretty much anywhere, 's a 1.8" Only 60GB though.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-04-27 00:54:10 +0000 UTC]

"Based on" meaning proprietary alterations and lack of open-source-ness. Even if it came with linux I'd probably just repace it with a distro I liked anyway - that's what I'm doing with the custom Xandros that comes on the Eee Pc. Well, hell. I'm considering it. I do respect the Atom, though, much more than the underclocked celeron they used to use.
Naynaynay, I don't want a hard drive. 20 GB of internal flash is enough for me, really, on a portable computer, and it has an SDHC slot, so that's another 16 if I really need it, with interchangeability. And I don't trust hard drives in laptops. I will drop them. From a great height. It's just a given.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-04-27 19:15:28 +0000 UTC]

Well, no, that's a lie, I use it through Xen. But WINE sounds so much bett-uh.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-04-27 18:52:46 +0000 UTC]

Hon. [link] - Take a look before you talk.
As it is, I have yet to see your reasoning behind your obsession for open-sourceness. It's an ideology, yes, and I would love it if everything I needed was open-source. But it isn't. theGIMP is shit, for example, period. As is inkscape. Hence I use Photoshop and Illustrator through WINE. But then, they're both graphics software designed by programmers. Blender is an excellent piece of software mainly because it was originally written "in house" for designers.

The atom is, IMO, shit for netbooks. A combination of overkill and underkill, in power usage/instruction set and actual processing power respectively. ARM is far better for netbooks IMO, if only because he processors require far less (ie. no) accompanying chipset. And sometimes they integrate DSPs too, which are far better for, for example, decoding video.

you can get 32GB SDHCs. And you can probs still expand the internal flash, they probably still address it over IDE or PCI or USB. Well, they have to.

The hard disk in mine manages to put up with the abuse it gets by just being in a schoolbag all day (about 6mm of leather between it and the outside world on one side, and easy 5kg of books and shiz on t'other. And I hardly bother putting it down gently. And effective free drop from about 1m OK with you?)

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-05-03 18:55:54 +0000 UTC]

Lies. It is not, you just don't like the interface because you can't find things, we've had this discussion before. Seen this ? I haven't tried it yet, because I like the default gimp interface, but from the short time that I used photoshop it looks pretty comprehensive. And what really gets me is that it's not $600. Never used illustrator much, but I like inkscape fine. Typically I just use GIMP for vectors, though, and inkscape only when I need full svgs.
Really, the reason I like open-source is because I hate the concept of intellectual property, when it is taken to the level of, "I coded this, therefore I get to decide what happens to it, and you can buy it for a fat lot of money if you want, but you have no role in its design or features, because it's mine." So, I'd be perfectly fine with the proprietary system if it just paid more attention to the needs of its customers, and not what it thought was what they wanted. Look at Vista. Though the people responsible for that have changed their tune somewhat for the better. If a company wants to design "what it thinks is best", I should have no obligation to buy it, and in a perfect world they would have low sales, because people wouldn't buy things that weren't exactly the way they wanted, or customisable to that level. Open-source mentality is kind of a coping mechanism, because it's usually extremely customisable, and even when it's not it's usually free, so I don't mind trying it and finding it's not what I want. And further, if you want, you can shape where it goes. It gives you a freedom of choice that goes miles beyond Windows Vista Business versus Windows Vista Home Premium. *stops rambling*
Myuh. I like the concept of the Atom, but explain to me the technicalities, if you would.
I know, monkey, but they're expensive. But in older Eee pcs the flash chips were actually soldered to the motherboard, so sure I could expand it if I could manage not to fry the thing. I think now most of them are in a separate drive.
No, knowing me, I will toss it down the stairs or something. Play frisbee. Plus, flash memory is faster unless you want a server drive. And there's the trade-off of head crash for cell life, which at least with flash memory things usually fail on write, thus no data is lost and the buffer simply moves to the next cell, as opposed to hard drives, which usually fail on read and cannot recover the data *read this somewhere*.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-05-03 21:08:31 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I have seen gimpshop. And, judging from the screenshots I can find, it doesn't look that comprehensive. I've recently started using smart layers etc. a fair amount, and I don't believe it has them.. Or at least w/e they're called.
Neither gimp nor inkscape has, as far as I have been able to see, any of the typography stuff that illustrator has, depressingly. LaTeX is good for typesetting body text, but it doesn't have the sheer customisability (read: redesigning specific letters, opentype, variety of fonts...) of illustrator.

Umm... "The needs of customers" is such a fickle thing. ten years ago, nobody would have cared if they hadn't had an ipod, they wouldn't think they'd need tens of thousands of songs on the go. Now? Everyone wants 30GB plus.
And you don't want open source computer hardware. Why not, one wonders?

I don't really get the problems people had with vista. UAC isn't all that much different from sudo. And I still think you an idiot for running in root all the time.

I remember I modified windows until nobody could recognise it as such. Yet it's not open source... The freedom of choice, yes, I can agree with you there. The customisability? not so much. In some systems, like OS X, yes, they're depressingly black boxes. but.

What do you mean by the concept? Low power x86? 'tis a bit of a misnomer, because x86 is saddled with chipset, backwards compatibility, etc. etc. which all contribute to the heat consumption. Real low power chips, like ARM, MIPS, hell, even AVR and PIC, have a lot of integration, so take up less circuit board space, and generally use about as much power as the atom alone, maybe a little more - the atom with chipset uses about 13W, but the chipset they usually use in netbooks means that the total power usage is more like double that.
Oh, and ARM/MIPS based chips often include DSPs for decoding and stuffs.

...You can't solder? ffs.

You're paranoid about data loss.. Ah well. It's your choice leastways.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-05-05 02:50:32 +0000 UTC]

Myuh. What can I say? I see no real difference between the two besides aesthetics and price.
Oh, yeah, you're a typography nut, I forgot. Well, I suppose they both are pretty useless for that, you're right.

*shrug* I don't want an mp3 player. I'm only getting a cell phone out of necessity. I guess that says something about my role in the needs of all customers *grin*.
Pshaw, firstly hardware is different. One can learn C++ easily, one cannot build a silicon fab in one's basement nearly as easily. Also the market for hardware is larger and more multipurpose than software - not as many specialised tasks as software performs. Other than that, why not? I'd like to be able to tinker with a motherboard design before it's shipped to me, sure.

Hate UAC. I don't run in root, I use Ubuntu, which will no longer allow root logins. At all. Very simple. I want the final say in what happens on my computer. I don't need it to tell me I can't do something. It's a collection of circuits. I want to control the damn circuits. I don't mind if it advises me that something is not a good idea, as long as it's intelligent about what exactly I'm doing (there's my issue with UAC - can't install bloody 7zip without it barking at you). But an OS is not a bloody sentient being, and I'm not a dolt. If I want to screw around in /usr, I'm damn well going to do it, and I shouldn't have to beat the system into a bloody pulp to do so. It should be as simple as entering the folder. The primary purpose of an OS should be to enable you to do things, not to safeguard itself from god knows what. I miss DOS. [/rant]

Aye, but if you sent it to Microsoft they'd be bloody well pissed at you. And I expect most of the things you used to modify it were either open source or freeware, which is just as good - Litestep much? Well, customisability I mean more the inherent ability. Compare the customisability of KDE to that of Windows Explorer (XP-era or before). Not to mention if you don't like KDE it takes about five minutes to install Gnome or X or any one of their derivatives, and the system is designed to work with them. Windows is basically built around explorer. Your installing skills must be simply amazing that you got Litestep to work so easy. *odd grammar cues eyebrowraise* *shrug* Or whatever. Meh.

Aye, because it's low power and x86 is compatible with everything you can imagine. Myuhs. I don't much stray from x86 and _64, except SPARC piques my interest. But I suppose that's just my narrow horizons.

I can solder. I can't solder bloody chips with millimeter spaced pins to a bloody motherboard. There's a reason these things aren't handmade, remember.

Very paranoid. I am going to have a bloody immense RAID 6+0 when I'm older, and it will be your fault for introducing me to RAID. But no, really, it matters that flash memory is faster, too.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-05-05 18:00:11 +0000 UTC]

And, y'know, features. Specifically, non-destructive editing.


I have a cellphone. I'm thinking about making an mp3 player for myself, but the 3d printer'll be taking priority when I get some time... Besides, the lack of hardware flac decoders is a problem for me (see later)

At the moment you can't. But don't forget, processors are programmed too. Verilog, VHDL, etc.. We don't manually position transistors any more

No, hardware is not more multi-purpose. Hardware is considerably less multi-purpose than software. Just believe me on this point. It seems multipurpose to you because it only has one purpose - run software . The rest of it? Well, your processor only has one bus - be that an FSB, quickpath, or HT. And DDRSDRAM in the second two options.

*shrugs* I don't mind my computer asking me before it does something. Remarkably good way of stopping viruses. Not everything is perfect, and information can be lost changing the meaning of the command entirely between you and the computer, even if your shell was bug- and exploit-free.
The primary purpose UNIX was designed for was mainframe. That means, 99.999 uptime, redundancy, and no way for it to be hacked. sudo and granular user access control was one way for that to be achieved.

No they wouldn't. They left that capability open for you. Nothing says you can't use explorer. And, yes, linux has many more shells than windows does. My point stands.
Umm. KDE runs on top of X.. If you didn't have X installed then you couldn't run KDE...

ARM is the most used processor architecture in the world. Anything you use with a microcontroller in it (most electronic things do) probably has ARM or MIPS.

They can be.

There's an essay somewhere about how RAID isn't all that safe compared to nightly backups.. Or shutdown backups, for that matter. Leastways, your precious RAID has the problem that all those hard disks will wear at the same rate

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-05-09 18:25:33 +0000 UTC]

Wait, what? What mean you by destructive editing? Gimpy doesn't destroy things, far from it.

Well, my point is that a motherboard can be used in a bunch of different styles of computer systems, and its components can be used in a wide variety of electronics. Software is usually designed to accomplish one task, or maybe several tasks that are complementary. Hardware systems are designed to accomplish whatever task is put to them, within reason.

Yeah, I know, Unix wasn't originally intended to be a desktop base. Which is why my personal computer in my room uses DOS-based Windows. Also because it is old, and has no internet connection. But mostly because back in the older days of windows the OS was marketed for personal use, not for defending a user from the internet like newer windowses and not for servers like unix. Yeah, I know, mac. Shut it, those things are expensive.

Sure they would. There might not be anything legally they could do about it (though I'm sure digging through the EULA would come up with some ambiguous clauses that could be twisted whatever way they wanted), but they've never been kindly to modified systems - haven't you heard about the issues xbox owners have been having if they do so much as open the case? That's hardware, but imagine calling microsoft's support line and explaining to them that you have litestep but you still need help with the system. Not that it matters much, since if you have the ability and desire to install litestep you probably don't need most of their IT offerings, but they wouldn't be willing to help you and your warranty viability would be considerably reduced.

Xfce, I mean.

But not in PCs. Which is my point. The vast majority of pcs are x86, with all the newer ones being _64, and a fair share of PPCs still in existence. Everything else makes up a tiny, almost negligible, minority. Except maybe IA64, I'm not sure how popular the Itanium was. I'm a PC guy.

It's a bitch.

Mh, well, it probably isn't. But hopefully before it dies they'll have one of the newshiny things like FeRAM or MRAM in mass-production.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-05-10 09:18:50 +0000 UTC]

[link]

No, hardware is designed to do one specific thing. That thing is processing data, comparing data, and sending that data out to a bus.. usually via another chip because CPUs only have one or two busses. The motherboard overall? Maybe, but you still need to have expansion cards for things... like new ethernet connections, decent audio, RAID (because integrated raid is, 99% of the time, shit), etc.

Mac... is also marketed as a server system. And is even worse than windows or linux for locking you out of the workings. And it's a unix anyway. based on the mach microkernel and BSD.

*shrugs* yeah, okay.

Ahright.

And SPARC/POWER in the high-end markets (and presumably both staying there now that Oracle rather than IBM is buying sun), MIPS (theres a MIPS supercomputer), used to be a lot of ARMs around in some markets (UK) - that was what ARM was originally designed for - Alpha until HP switched to IA64 because they were idiots (IA64 is effectively nonexistent in terms of new processors now. I think the itanium was 2001? 2002? Wonder when (if) tukwila will turn up..)

cba following the trail to work out wtf we were talking about.

Then, why have one? As I said, they wear at the same rate... A shutdown backup script is easy as pie to write..
Or racetrack. Ah, IBM, why do you tempt us so?

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-05-14 00:22:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh, right. Well, Gimpy IS non-destructive, until you save it. And I think you can save it in psd and it will save and load the undo data just like photoshop. It's only that xcf doesn't. I don't save until I'm happy with it anyway, or until I cba fixing it until later.

Well, that's a huge realm of possibility if you try to define 'data'. Most motherboards I've ever seen have decent audio built in, I don't really see the point in audio cards. Mine supports a 7.1 system without an expansion card. Not that I've ever used it, or will ever.

Yah, I know, but it's primarily designed to be comfy for the user. It may not give you the power, but it's comfy. You don't need to delve into the guts as much as you do in linux - linux requires gut-delving for so much as installing programs, unless you want to hassle with inept package managers. God, I miss adept. Really need to switch back to Kubuntu...

But my point is that they make up a very small percentage now. Ragh, I'm just most familiar with x86/_64, okay?

soldering tiny things. cba still arguing about it.

Because I'm paranoid, okay? Throwing money at my percieved problems makes me feel better.
Or *slightly tangental* HVDs. Come on, the standard's been out for almost two years.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-05-15 09:11:34 +0000 UTC]

Still not to the extent of photoshop though. It's like, there're these things called smart filters? They're layers that apply a filter to those underneath them. It's great, saves me flattening the image. If I only want to apply it to one layer, they have a mask and stuffs. So I can only apply it to one part of one layer if I want... Nondestructively, without using edit points.

Data? Numbers.
1. That's generally on a seperate chip. 2. It's not always that great. 3. If you need more than 7.1? And don't say it doesn't happen, it does. That's why you can get 64x64 audio IO systems

...It is awful. How much have you ever had to use a mac? Don't believe the bullshit about "they just work". It's not true. I hate mac OS X. It might be good for some people, but for me it just doesn't work.
As for you though hon, you're using double standards. You complain about it being difficult to modify windows and yet you don't mind it in OS X? That just stinks of anti-microsoft.
Hardly. ./configure; make; sudo make install (or trackinstall).
Or you can just use src2pkg on the source tarball.
Or you can use apt/apt-get. Which I have never done in my life, being a slacker.
Or installpkg on slackware.

Thankyou. Don't try and justify a feeling.

Mehkay.

...But it's pointless.
Tapestry Media. [link]

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-05-16 03:42:38 +0000 UTC]

Um. Gimp filters have always been like that. They apply to the active layer without flattening. And if you have a selection, they apply within the selection only. And come on, edit points? Just bust open the preferences and set the undo memory to half the size of your RAM, or else 1024 steps or something. 's what I do.

But these numbers can mean anything under the sun.
Not the ones I've seen. I haven't seen a separate audio card since... since my windows 95 computer, actually, the OLD one.
I'm not an audiophile, I don't care about distortion. I do it on purpose sometimes.
It doesn't happen to sane people. I'm perfectly happy with two desktop speakers, always have been. I wouldn't mind a floor bass, but.

Often enough, we have some at school. I can see why people like them. I look at them more as an all-in-one tool, like a PDA or something, instead of like a machine to enable my every thought, and in that role they're quite nice.
Oi, well, like I said, different roles. Also, I don't actually own a mac, whereas I've owned both windows and linux for years now. I'm sure that if I really got a mac and used it every day it would piss me off pretty fast, but atm I rather like it and would be willing to give it a chance. Not a $1000 chance, however - that's my current issue with Apple, they overprice EVERYTHING.
I like it when things work. *gripe at synaptic* I usually use apt-get, it's fastest.

Feeling? There may be others, but you, sir, cannot dispute that the vast majority of personal computers on the market run some variety of x86. It's like saying that I'm most familiar with english - sure, we speak other languages here in the US, but there's a justifiable reason I would be more familiar in an english environment.

...Mate, you just described my life.
It's FINALLY purchaseable? Jesus, InPhase certainly took long enough, they finished the standard even before HVD. How much does the pricetag burn?

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-05-16 11:13:09 +0000 UTC]

No, the filters are a seperate layer. They apply to all layers underneath them. And you get masks as well. It's like the difference between, say, using an eraser, and using a layer mask.
Yes. But I don't like them. I can't reverse a specific edit, I have to go back to a point.

Indeed.
No hon, they are on a seperate chip. A seperate chip that is soldered to your motherboard.
IT does happen if you work in the music industry haha.

I own a mac, and I detest it.
....I'm going to leave it at that.
Things work with all of those routes... Pretty much. Sometimes slight differences if you make it.

Hmm, there was a reason why I put it like that... Oh yes! The original point was about Atom, yes? You said that x86 was compatible with everything you can imagine, yes? I was saying that was a feeling because you didn't appear to have done much research.
Also, most big OSS projects are platform agnostic.
As are small ones if they use the right libraries.

A life isn't pointless. Forgive my baseless hope in humanity that still exists somehow.
Very expensive.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-05-17 20:48:03 +0000 UTC]

Dude. We have that too. Masks, at least, and effects layers. Niether of which I ever use.
Oh, well that's true. IMHO you're rather picky. I've never been disappointed by Gimpy.

Thus, multipurpose.
Oh. Truth.
Mh. Sillies. My hearing leaves something to be desired in any case.

Mmm.
Oh, no. You'd be surprised how often I tell Synaptic to do something and it throws up an error message, and then I type in the command that it should be passing to the console and apt-get does it in thirty seconds. I don't think synaptic understands the concept of dependency. Or not enough to continue when it encounters it, at least. If I want to remove a package, don't tell me I can't remove it because there're dependencies, tell me what's dependent on it and ask me if I want to remove those too. Gragh.

Oh, I didn't intend anything about compatibility, I was saying that it's so common that the library of software for it is larger. Not that it's compatible with everything, just that more programs are written to be compatible with it, because it's so common.
Maybe so, but they don't usually release a working version for every single platform.

After you've seen my tendency to flail and throw massive amounts of money at my insecurities even though the systems I set up will only explode spectacularly a couple years later? Assuming I don't desync the array before then? Sigh.
Ahwell. I suppose I don't need a bloody terabyte. I might as well get a BD in a few years, when the price comes down, it's plenty big.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-05-18 09:09:56 +0000 UTC]

That isn't what an effects layer is, that's just a merging method...
Let's just say that I'm happy with my software and you're happy with yours.

Nooo. Because, if you have no way to convert those things into an action in rl then it's useless.. Like, you can decode music on a computer without a sound card. But you can't listen to it. The hardware can do one thing - recieve data from a bus, process that data mathematically, and then send data back out on a bus. If you add some hardware (that is also not general purpose) then you can play the music back. The original question was, is hardware general purpose. No, it isn't.
Thankyou.
Why? You can record multiple people at once, then individually remix and send it back to inear monitors. It's not some insane 64 speaker system they're using.. That'd be pointless..


I didn't say synaptic though, did I? . I said apt-get. Or make/make install. Or installpkg if you're a slacker like me..
Synaptic is just a visual shell for apt-get isn't it? :/

Meh. And you want to use photoshop on your iPhone? With, um, a fraction of the battery life? Nahh.
So build it yourself.. Not difficult..

Meh.
Bluray drives are only about £50 now..

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-05-20 20:23:26 +0000 UTC]

Myuh. Yeah. We shall say this. Also I'm mildly biased because I dislike Adobe's corporate strategy, though Photoshop is the best of their products IMHO.

Oh, sure you can - on a board speaker. Sucky quality, but you didn't say how you'd listen to it, so. Sure, it is. It doesn't matter what it specifically does, it can handle more types of data than software. MS paint can't handle .psd, only bmp. your processor can handle the data of both .psd and .bmp. Hence, more multipurpose than paint.

Myuh. Leave me my dumb conceptions, they keep me choosing the cheapest speaker option on dell.com.

Yes, so I don't understand whytf it can't do what apt-get can. See? That is what this conversation has been about.

No, I want to play late '90s games on my netbook, in WINE. There's a difference.
I lack your facilities and faculties. Case design would be a pain.

Oh, excellent. Not expensive or anything. Totally unrelated, I have £35 at this very moment. As in not in dollars, in pounds. I shall be invading your country in less than a month, beware.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-05-20 21:18:46 +0000 UTC]

Adobe's corporate strategy and adobe's software are two different things.
Personally, I think that illustrator is..

No. Not the same thing at all.. You still need assistant chips to the processor. The chipset? It doesn't have any GPIO, only dedicated busses.
...I never said it couldn't? But the fact is is that hardware is single purpose. That's like saying that because a calculator can handle lots of different numbers is general purpose because it doesn't only do one calculation.

Ew...

Um, no. When did you say synaptic? You said you had to dive into the bowels of linux to install anything. I said you didn't, just use apt-get or a simple set of commands (./configure, make, make install, or src2pkg) if you need to install from source. Hardly diving into the bowels of the system.

Well, I disagree, because I wouldn't use a netbook for that. But, whatever.
Huh? I was talking about software...

Keep an eye on newegg.. [link] There's one for, um, $80 there. No, $75.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-05-21 22:46:46 +0000 UTC]

Truth. But.

If you really wanted to make an entire system on literally one chip, it could be done...
Actually, that's exactly what I would argue. Even really simple calculators can do at least four things to the numbers you give it. Multipurpose.

Ew to dell? I know, prebuilt and all, but it is fun to do when bored...

Well, that's what I was referring to. You have to dive into the bowels to install anything and stay sane, becasue Synaptic is dumb.
My hard drive is officially full. Like, completely. As in there isn't even room to install updates on the linux part.

Myuh. I'll actually probably use it mostly for word processing.
Oh. Right. *got lost* Myuh.

They really have come down. Schoen.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-05-22 15:38:37 +0000 UTC]

But what?

Yes, it could. But it still wouldn't be multipurpose. It would have fixed boundaries it could work in.
So, paint is also multipurpose because it has multiple tools you can use on graphics. By that standard, everything is multipurpose. Even ls is multipurpose ffs.

No, ew to the cheapest speakers.

Umm... Hardly diving into the bowels, I plead. And don't compare with windows - windows doesn't have anything like synaptic or apt-get. It's sheer luck if the uninstall program actually uninstalls everything tbh.
Get a new one...

So, um, what's wrong with ARM?

As I said, keep an eye out. I wish the prices of leicas would come down...

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-07-05 03:20:10 +0000 UTC]

*was dead*

But I'm biased.

Hurr. I find myself not caring by this point.

But cheap! We're trying not to spend my inheritance before I have it, thank you.

It doesn't, usually. most are very conservative and say 'oh they might need this later!' or else are stupidly constructed and thus cannot delete the folder because the uninstall program is in that folder. NSIS, I say, or MSI. And I wouldn't compare it with windows anyway - when I need something on the compy, I actually think in unix. As in my brain forms the words sudo apt-get. before I realise that I'm on windows and typing that into the console will do about as much good as... well, anything you type into the NT console.
Myuh. money.

Dunno. I had issues, but they seem to have left now. It's almost out yey!

I <3 my Canon. Even if it is ten years old.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-07-07 17:05:52 +0000 UTC]

Ahwell

Meh, you should learn to look at things objectively, from outside your personal situation..

Fair 'nough

How often do you replace them? You can pick up cheap PC speakers for free, that's cheap.

You can use cygwin and similiar to give windows *nix commands... Although apt-get won't work, true..
Money is worthless.

=]

Film ftw! I'm thinking of buying a second hand leica R and seeing how much it'd cost to make a digital back..

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-07-08 00:47:40 +0000 UTC]

*is shellfish*

Yuh. Someday I suppose I'll get moderate-decent-level-ish instead of cheap. But I think blowing hundreds of dollars on a huge system is kind of silly. Even 5.1 strikes me as a little silly.

I really heart my apt-get. *finally bothered to fix K/Ubuntu after installing W7RC a couple weeks ago* It is really really great.
Is it sad that I now regularly rant on how useless american currency is? Mostly I miss the pound and two-pound coins. Our coinage is pathetically pointless.

Film ftw! *battle-cry-ish* Hang around until someone stupid sells a camera and a $500 macro lens on ebay for $100. Like happened to me. It was win.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2009-11-03 23:48:17 +0000 UTC]

Except where it's required, y'know?

meh, I still need to fix slackware.. too much win2k3 is bad for the brain.
Also, the two pound coin is much awesomeness. American coinage is shit from what I've seen. You do have a one dollar coin apparently, but it's hardly ever used.

leicas are hot stuff, even the R series. That's not going to happen sadly..

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2009-11-27 00:31:16 +0000 UTC]

Yah, I guess.

I has kubuntu on my netbook! It's not even that slow with the standard desktop version (as opposed to the netbook version). And Windows 7 Ultimate on teh desktop, which is only used for gaming now that I have the 'book.
True dat. It really is, especially since even quarters will buy you hardly nothing. Over there I could get a sandwich for a pound and just use the coin. Yah, we never use the Sacajawea dollar, like ever. Or even the half-dollar. If I were to rule the world, everything $5 and below would be coins and $1 would only be divided into tenths, not hundredths. Pennies serve no purpose but to complicate change anyway.

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vdheide [2008-08-18 16:58:57 +0000 UTC]

Hidden by Owner

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Deep-Brown In reply to vdheide [2008-08-18 20:03:32 +0000 UTC]

no problems, I love your typography work

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StormOfGrey [2008-08-06 07:01:25 +0000 UTC]

Hidden by Owner

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2008-08-06 13:33:16 +0000 UTC]

Nope, sorry. I'm kinda busy atm anyway - lost power supply for my desktop screen (>< and I need to configure it too. Oh, and I'm saving up to get meself a domain (colourspac.es, I think) and I have a physics course soon too. xD

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2008-08-07 03:36:30 +0000 UTC]

Aa, 's why I was asking, once I'm back in school the college-level history and chemistry courses plus the out-of-school computer science course are going to be rather occupying... *is amused* and yet you have no correlation to spain, as far as I'm aware...?

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2008-08-07 16:26:11 +0000 UTC]

Mnnh, I'm already doing extra studies to get brownie points for uni, as well as trying to aim for diploma standard in piano/french horn by upper-sixth ><

Read it without the dot.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2008-08-17 04:53:07 +0000 UTC]

Higher education is a pain, no? I've been told I MUST have four years of foreign language to get the good scholarships, so I'm going to need to fight to get that year of Independent Study German recognised...

I got what it said. But still. Spain.

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2008-08-17 17:24:05 +0000 UTC]

Only if you're going for one of the really prestigious universities. Most of them I could get in no problem, providing my predicted grades sort themselves out. Easy enough. But, well, I want to go to cambridge. Overapplied by about three for each place for the course I want to go into, and most of those are gonna get the three/four A grades. hence, extra work.

Spain's alright. Well.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2008-08-23 02:53:10 +0000 UTC]

*nods, is in a similar state* Fortunately the college I like the best is a standardish one. I don't especially feel the need to push myself towards MIT or something when there's a perfectly good computer sciences department at ISU. Not that it wouldn't be nice.
What're you studying? *always feels bad for not knowing this of friends*

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2008-08-23 14:47:20 +0000 UTC]

Myuh. Thing is, I want to study natural sciences. No other university does a course like it, as far as I know. Only Durham has a course called natural sciences, and I don't know how it compares to the Cambridge course.
You?

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2008-08-28 23:38:08 +0000 UTC]

Ah, that's an issue. Fortunately, IT is a widely available majoring region. I'm not sure if I want to go more the software engineering direction or the hardware troubleshooting direction. Not font of network consulting, so I'll likely lean more towards software since it makes more money and has more promotion options, but.
*Got a letter from MIT anyway - they want me, apparently*

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2008-08-29 17:59:01 +0000 UTC]

IT? Computer science? I have a slight divison between the two in my mind.

NatSci lets me do Computer sciences in my first year too, and specialise into it if I want to later. it's a truly brilliant course.

Heh, but not gonna go there? Good name MIT.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2008-09-12 01:22:20 +0000 UTC]

Well, it shall involve computers, this I know. How, I do not.

Natsci was ist?

Oh, I very well may. But it was shocking, I didn't think I'd have to worry about problems like "Should I go to MIT or not?"
Even over there?

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2008-09-14 12:00:57 +0000 UTC]

Mmh. IT is usually boring. Computing usually isn't.

Natural Sciences. [link]

Aye. Well, why not?
Only if you have any experience of the hacking community. Although quite a lot of people know of it, I think. Harvard's the one people know, really.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2008-09-19 21:55:11 +0000 UTC]

True. Network consultant is a job I shy away from.

Oh rightright.

Eh, like other colleges too. Yale sent me a letter too. They like me, they really like me. And surely people have heard of Princeton too?

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2008-09-21 18:20:45 +0000 UTC]

Yale... Maybe. Princeton, not really.

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StormOfGrey In reply to Deep-Brown [2008-09-22 21:48:41 +0000 UTC]

But Einstein!

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Deep-Brown In reply to StormOfGrey [2008-09-25 20:30:35 +0000 UTC]

I know that, you know that, they don't know that. They only know the name and E=mc^2

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