Dracold In reply to Theautisticonenamedm [2022-10-01 11:35:05 +0000 UTC]

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Dracold In reply to silveranswer [2019-04-08 14:07:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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Dracold In reply to JacobLeBeauREAL [2019-01-29 12:09:59 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for very late reply. I was at the spa and currently, I feel sick to death. I am not gonna be able to keep up with anything from my hobbies, cause all the energy I can spare I use to stay alive these days...
I think I saw the poster. I will not say anything about it at this point. If I live when the trailer or the movie is out, I may write something.

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-07-23 21:08:26 +0000 UTC]

I don't know. Me being this cynical would still mean being hopeful that it can be done - that it can achieve being relevant. I feel no connection to that character. Them just generating random characters will do nothing. It's the same thing SEGA kept doing with their game characters. Just push a new character with a new design on the cover, and then not have him to have any good story or personality, and then abandon the character forever. Or at least until an anniversary title comes where this character can stay in background and cheer on Sonic. I see no value in that, and I fail to understand how anyone else could.

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-07-02 06:41:58 +0000 UTC]

I didn't read the comics, but one of my friends showed me some horrible Sonic / Shadow interaction that made no sense and went against their character. The author wrote the dialog as if SA2 continuity existed only partially. He took the elements he liked, like Shadow trying to destroy the world because misremembering his promise, and discarded the parts he didn't like, like Sonic acknowledging Shadow as hero and being sad for his sacrifice.

But hey, after some reading to the Marvel comics about Rocket, I can safely say that Sonic stories are not the only ones that are barely canonical and all over the place with huge chunks of disconnected stuff. I guess this is how American comics roll. They just hire a bunch of artists and writers, each time somebody else, they give them some vague character descriptions, and they tell them to write something. Everything is just a filler. The stories never build up to anything. It's almost always "character quirk" the comic. After you read a comic like this, you are not supposed to think: "Oh yeah, so this is what happened in this story" or: "this is how this character developed", but rather: "Oh yeah, that's our titular character! That's just the type of one-liners he'd always use! He's so fun!"
I can enjoy something like this to some extent... but not indefinitely. If there is no meat to the story, what is this all for? Only for promotion of the character and his further marketing I guess...

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-07-02 10:15:46 +0000 UTC]

ah you mean the SA2 refference yeah they been doing this more explicity after issue 4 those were one of the reason why a drop the comics but the straw that break my limit was the end of issue 6 more expecific (they killed the thing tha was the most clossed thing that could be a over arching plot its seem they taking pages from sonic team in how kill any paid offs of interesing ideas).

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-07-02 10:49:28 +0000 UTC]

That sounds as if the IDW writers were taking lessons from the fictional Czech dramatist and "genius" Jára Cimrman. In his operettas, he only used "fillers" and he was said to alternate two dramatic elements - the element of anticipation, and the element of disappointment.

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-07-02 06:33:19 +0000 UTC]

The dude who made this video is pretty late to the party. Late in the sense of the series being beyond the point of return I think. He should have voiced his opinion sooner. Now it's not gonna do anything. Recently, Iizuka said that he won't listen to fans at all because according to him, they want the series to go backwards. Yeah, I can imagine that Classic fanboys are that way, but Iizuka surely meant everyone, as Adventure games are also from the past, so it would also go backwards if it was up to us. So now it doesn't matter what fans want or what they say. Now we might as well not exist.

I didn't assemble the will to read Sonic comics. Instead, I read Rocket Raccoon comics these days. I find it far more enjoyable, even despite it's way more silly than I had hoped.

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-07-02 09:53:28 +0000 UTC]

you can try the tmnt idw funny how they fail to stablish something with sonic but with tmnt they stablish a new origin story and bring old characters with new origins  and new original characters that should had be the structure with sonic so yeah good call in avoiding this waste of time,me? i already wasted 5 issues of sonic comics money (i dont said they bad per say but they feel like a filler anime ep a entretaining one once in awhile but 6 issues is enough i may return when there is a plot (and i dont mean a one selfcontain one issue plot).

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-07-02 10:44:43 +0000 UTC]

I am currently on my Rocket Raccoon mania. I don't think anything can distract me from it at the moment. Not gonna read or watch anything else for a while, not Sonic, not TMNT (I never saw TMNT enough to even have any attachment to it).
Rocket is basically what happens when you merge my two favorite Sonic characters - Shadow and Tails. He's little furry mammal and has incredible intellect and engineering skills like Tails. And he was created in a lab, having rather dark past filled with torture and death just like Shadow. True, Rocket's personality isn't remotely similar to either of them. But that's probably for the best, as Sonic characters rarely have any consistent character grounded in their universe these days.
But even so, I don't like how the comics are just all over the place and every single new one feels like re-imagination of some abstract idea that was never clearly defined, other than being presented in a previous nonsensical story.

At least I can say that I learned that Sonic is not the only thing that is a complete disconnected mess. I always argued against Sonic Universe from the point of view that almost every other fictional universe has some core canon mythos to it that is never deviated from, is always considered the main thing, and it just keeps building new and new stories in it's official timeline. Now I see it doesn't appear to be the case.

And it also is a matter of opinion what's for the best I supposed. What I prefer is to have a main serious story that progresses and characters evolve in its duration. But that has some disadvantages. The obvious one being that for this to be pulled off, you need one genius or a group of professional writers who is the mastermind from the longterm planning to the most minutiae details of the story. But the more pressing disadvantage other then this being too hard to pull off... is that it will have to one day end. The main cast of characters change over time. Some leave the group, the group changes its dynamic to the entire world or stops existing... some main characters die... The point of the story is achieved... And if we want to continue, we lose the audience. Because a new story brings a new paradigm that the original audience doesn't care for... or they were mostly fans of a character that died. Or they were a fan of a certain character while he was still a vigilante with rough edges and now they can't relate to his new self, no matter how masterfully was the development pulled off. Basically, a narrative that is centered around a carefully constructed story must be in my opinion always sad from the simple perspective that it needs to END one day. And when it does, you feel like you lost something.
That's why SEGA and so many other companies usually use the other approach. They don't tell stories, they just tell anecdotes. They give us bottled characters in sterile packaging. It keeps them "fresh" and unchanging, and so they can be served like this forever. Maybe it's less fulfilling, but it's also less... sad, because it will never end. You won't need to say goodbye to some version of your character forever. He will keep returning, but just with the price of feeling less alive...
I said "version" of a character, because reboots make a bridge between those two paradigms. You can have a great fulfilling story that ends... yet don't lose the characters because you will just reboot. Or you can have endless episodes of funny shorts with no consequence... but then reboot and decide to actually do something worthwhile with the character and you do it after reboot.

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-08 07:15:21 +0000 UTC]

I had some unconfirmed second hand information that the reason Forces felt rushed and incomplete is because they are developing another Sonic game as fast as they can... and that game is gonna be tie-in to the upcoming movie.

And from the info I am getting about the movie, I can't see how it's not gonna be a train-wreck.

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-06-08 08:19:35 +0000 UTC]

someone in youtube did mention something about those lines as a negative posibilite but also it did mention a positivie posibility his name is the game apoligist and have some review of mania and forces (www.youtube.com/channel/UCUweL… )
the only information i have  is about the cop of the real world teaming up with sonic to stop eggman (sonic x anyone?)
i like to think that they would take a sonic adventure inspire in the movie and celebrate adventure games in 2019 (be port or remake) to tie up the incoming movie (www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0KxhL… ) but then again like this guy said in one coment when he answer some desilusionated fan saying that its most likely suck "shhhhh.... dreaming is the best part of this cycle.... sob"

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-08 10:20:25 +0000 UTC]

Hm, no more interesting info.
Most people think that Sonic movie is doomed based on the fact that it's live-action with CGI alone. That Sonic can only be cartoony. I think that it being live-action CGI is basically the only way for it to be popular. Like Guardians of the Galaxy. The creative people behind it first pushed against Rocket being in the movie, as it would be too "cartoony" and that it wouldn't work in this relatively serious and grounded universe. Yet, in the end, they used Rocket, it worked, and he was even sky-rocketed up between the most lovable superheroes.
I am certain that Sonic movie would have a very much same potential if the tone of the movie was the same like in Guardians. But the info about directors changing for those who are more known for memes and comedy, the diversity hire quotas, and the fact it's a Sony movie (since all Sony movies are generally garbage) just doesn't help to lift my spirit. This can basically kill Sonic not just for the big screen, but for the games too if there is a movie tie-in game.

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-06-17 05:14:37 +0000 UTC]

www.siliconera.com/2018/06/16/…

sonc news!!! guess what? sonic movie will be bringing Chris from sonic x into te movie, its seem after the metarex saga Chris throw away his carrer with cience and decide to take a carrer as a police so he can help his best friend sonic after pilling many debts of rings because of his middle life crisis he went crazy buying "cool and hip" things to justifie his existence but after that he decide to become a delinquet to paid said debts but dont worry blue little rodent you best friend mr police Chris it here so you both can share hugs.........hahahahaha *sob*. 

"What we’re trying to do with Sonic is make a movie about a small-town police officer and Sonic at a time when THEY BOTH DESESPERATLY IN NEED OF A FRIEND, and we hope that this theme is friendship is what gives the film its heart and makes it prosper.”


Iizuka/Sega i have to ask really?you guys are ok with this? you guys dont stop beating that little hope i have with sonic?what next you will ruin or cancel the idw comics (and already i worried with pace and world bulding of it).

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-18 06:10:50 +0000 UTC]

It will not be Chris. I bet you the cop will be a young black woman for diversity quotas sake... and for the sake of striking down the hetero-patriarchy or some bullshit like that.
Man, we are lucky that Sonic is not human. Otherwise the diversity quotas would apply to him too.

I like friendship stories... but only if done well. And to be honest, they were never done well in Sonic stories. Only when it comes to Rouge and Shadow in SA2 and 06. But that's the extent of it, and it was pretty basic too.
And I fear that the "enemy of their friendship" will be some kind of villain that will be designed as a strawman of the writer's political opposition.
Only if they can evade this, I can give it a chance.

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-06-18 07:54:20 +0000 UTC]

i was just grabbing some low fruit with the mention of Chris as a joke but mostly because of this (www.tssznews.com/2018/06/14/so… ). it remind me to sonic x and i do like the fish out of water kind of story for example digimon tamers and yes i know i sound like an hypocrete because it also about friendship but like you said before sonic hasnt had the best record of being in story about frienship.

But i should see this coming after van rubix got out of the production (he was a fan) and was passed to just another corporation suit.

The movie’s plot is about a small town coming together to help the sheriff save Sonic – a blue anthropomorphic hedgehog that can reach the speed of sound – from the government chasing after him.

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-18 08:18:34 +0000 UTC]

It's baffling that soooooo many Sonic stories are about friendship. It's the only running theme in all those completely disconnected and diverse Sonic stories that keeps repeating, outside of dimensional and time travel. And yet, they NEVER had one origin story about the friendship between Sonic and Tails. Their #1 and #2 character. The two characters that are the only ones even the fanboys can't complain about. The two characters that are so light-hearted and safe that nobody could argue against a story of friendship between those two.
And yet, we never got it. They just are friends from the get go. And their interaction is always very poor or stupid. The end.
It doesn't look like Sonic in this movie is about to become friends with Tails... But with the cop, and the random townsfolk.
In games, we have a story of friendship between those "dark and edgy" characters like Shadow, who are reviled by the lighthearted and cheerful Sonic loving part of the audience. Blows my mind completely.

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-06-19 03:41:42 +0000 UTC]

i read and watched already stories of tails and sonic how they meet in fan work ie fanfics and comics and mostly share in common that tails lacked self confidence and that it was bully because he was a mutant (his 2 tails) and that he meets sonic when he was chassing eggman (sonic 2). 

But sega wouldnt bother to stablish something like that because bullyng and discrimination its too edgy (like dead,sins of the past or anything that adventure games did) to them,they prefer putting material with nice tone but with negative messange with it (i think roger did imply that in his "positivity" video after Sonic Boom and his respond of why fan werent positive at the next sonic game).

i dont know if was by pure accident that of all characters of the franchise the hedgehog with a problematic past, the double agent bat and the ex killer robot (that tryied to kill said hedgehog in on point in time) are the only one that make beliveled the mensage of friendship.

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-19 06:43:03 +0000 UTC]

The only stories in fiction that have any worth always have dark elements in it. If you meet people on a green flowery field during a cheerful sunny day... it makes story that doesn't deserve to be told.
Seriously, can you think of ONE (successful) fictional story in general that has no dark elements in it? I don't think there is anything. I don't think there CAN be anything. Conflict is the heart of every story, and darkness is in fact description of conflict. Even the most sugarcoated fairy tales can't do without darkness. Look at almost any Disney movie. The old ones were dark as hell. And while the new ones are stupid and propagandistic, they too have dark elements. They just soften them to the max, and in turn undermining the point of them existing.

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-06-19 10:28:36 +0000 UTC]

to encapsulate this just look how my little f*cking pony boomed and become a phenomen (well while lastest...).

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-19 11:22:51 +0000 UTC]

I never really watched it. Maybe saw like two or three episodes, maybe. Probably just reviews of them by Mr Enter.
So I am not certain myself. Does MLP also have dark elements in the story to introduce conflict, or can it create friendship just from magic like the title suggests?

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-06-19 19:50:33 +0000 UTC]

the premier and end episodes for seasons are the obvious examples (one with bugponies that try to infiltrate and conquer to feed her need of love or a recent resurrected city crystal from1000 years that was slaved) and the episodes in the middle tackle some basic message like confront you fears,accept differences,etc.
 here one of the end season scenes (www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu5lym… ).
granted mlp wasnt perfect it has his problems and nowdays after season 5 and stop being follow the series (i still watched sometimes) mostly because they already used the main 6 characters all they can, its feel when they try to teach a messange it was a messange that the character already learn but arent that bad of episodes they harmless.

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-20 06:30:58 +0000 UTC]

Interesting.
It made me think that the other reason why stories are successful, other than some serious dark element in them... is continuity. If you have just episodes that don't connect to anything, not even the foundation of the franchise you are portraying, then story means nothing. Then the entire thing is just a charade and waste of time. It seems to be the case since sequels are for some reason more famous and successful then the previous installments. At least for the series that give a shit:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCyuIW…

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-06-20 08:39:16 +0000 UTC]

well that example is case study of what NOT to do in a sequel they literally killed all the past to open up the new characters (and they killed the past withou an ounce of dignity) and it  happen in games for example mass effect trylogy is another curioss case continuity was one appealing aspect of those games (with transfering your character and desicion to each games) but the third game in the end make seems your desicion were not important.

on that note continuity doesnt have to be that obvious, it can be focus more in the world then the characters (we can be hooked to a franchise because an interesd world with his lore).

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-20 09:35:26 +0000 UTC]

Movies like Die Hard or the one movie where a bomb will explode if the bus of boat slows down bellow certain speed... those are examples of movies from the old paradigm where the audience expects the exact same thing happening all over again because it worked before. But I think that even back then, everyone would rather have a movie where the story and characters grow, develop, progress and change. And in recent times we had many movies that prove this is way better way to go. If they can apply the same philosophy on games, maybe we will stop getting member-berries types of games. But that's not gonna happen any time soon probably... Not on mass. It only happens when the management of those projects is clever enough.
I am sad to see so many fictions I liked hit the bottom of the barrel... Just because the member-berries and nostalgia paradigm creeps everywhere. (And also Social Justice, but that's another story entirely).

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-05-31 10:23:44 +0000 UTC]

Are you saying that in the IDW comics, they are trying to establish a continuity with the old games where humans had a key role, yet they are trying to portray a world where humans don't exist?
Heh, seems very consistent with whatever Forces was trying to do.
It sounds like a soft reboot. Or subtle reboot. Unspoken and denied reboot. Why the half measures? Why they can't just go all the way?

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-06-01 02:03:23 +0000 UTC]

how many soft reboot we already had? or better yet how many sonic games we had? cynical joking beside this is sega mark alright staring a new continuity for new fans ignoring the fact that you need to play forces to no be confused and  to no be confused you need to play past games to no be confused in forces AND even if you do all that you can still be confused because like Iizuka said this sonic its from a dimension where there not humans.......

Casual Fan: *looking at the comics* the art is nice and all and this doesnt make be embarrased of myself by reading it but what going wht are bunch of city destroyed?what war they talking about? what...?

IDW suits: well you need to had played Sonic Forces Because the comic star after that game

Casual Fan: so if i play this game it will answer my questions?

IDW suit: sure.......

*a disapointed playthrought later....*

Casual Fan:*carring sonic forces* ok i confuse, what this phantom ruby thing?who are those Chaos,Shadow,Zavok? and why in the hell there are 2 sonics with one being a fatt mute?

Sega Suit: actually you need to had read a proluge comic that are in our meme infested sites and had played Sonic Mania and others games in the past.

Casual Fan:..........

*after watching videos of past games, see the comics in youtube(after runing away from the memes) and played sonic mania*

Casual Fan:*huff**huff* ok*huf*i think i get finally i get it...*huf*

*Crash*
*Iizuka coming through the wall*

Iizuka: WHAT IS THAT? CORRENCE?AN IDENTITY?SONIC MAKING SENSE? NOT IN MY WATCH!!!!

Casual Fan: mother ******!

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-01 06:38:09 +0000 UTC]

And the Iizuka says: "The underwear should be worn by salad!" *flicks his magic stick and everything disappears because everything was an illusion anyway.*
IDW/SEGA suit: "So now, we can forget all of this business and have you play this new Sonic game. This time, the lore in it is actually happening." *wink wink, nudge nudge*

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-05-31 10:21:21 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for not being active. I just don't visit DA as often as I once did.
I think you left me other comments, but I still didn't reply as I didn't yet check the material you were referring in the discussion, so I wouldn't have much to say other than talking generally about concepts.

You know, I actually never "watched" TMNT. Meaning that I never saw full or even close to full any of their series. When I was around 10 years old, I vaguely remember watching TMNT at that time. They all had identical designs except for differently colored... headbands? Blindfolds? Bandanas? I don't know the proper English name for it. I saw some episodes, not all of them. It was so long ago that I don't remember anything. Even back in the day, I was probably so young I didn't get the show. I also got a Battle Toads game, and I thought that the Battle Toads were Ninja Turtles.
I saw some of the modern TMNT shows. I don't mind them, but I never watched them. Mostly because thanks to copyright, it's not so easy to get to see them whole on Youtube.
I saw some footage from game cutscenes. I loved that one cutscene where Ralph confronts Leo in that scary armor. But I don't even know the context behind all of that, it's just that moment was powerful to me and felt real.
When I look at this, I see it might be a normal kids action show. It may be even good in the sense of having story, continuity and stakes. But I can't tell for sure. Trailers are often very misleading and it does show many signs of going way too far for the sake of making a joke.

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-05-31 10:36:30 +0000 UTC]

well they did use the same design with the original cartoon and the 2003 version but they stared using different body struccture (i dont mean comical different like said sonic boom compared to knucles boom) in the 2012 nickelodion version and in the idw comic (well some times it depends in the artist of the issue).

battletoads i only have experience with the 2 snes games but i never complete either of them (it was when i was still like 11 and didnt have skill or patience at the time. the 2003 tmnt there some episodes in you tube but there easy to miss because they use turnail image of fanart and if you have neflix the tmnt 2012 is there or a least only the first season.

maybe i a little paranois with the trailer but with the rise of reboots that are only in name (teen titans go and thundercats roar....) and bein more comedic and less action cartoons you cant blame me

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-06-01 06:33:15 +0000 UTC]

I only had the first Battle Toads game and I never completed it either for the same reasons as you. Like one or two years ago, I actually discovered on the Internet that this game is considered to be the hardest game of all times and that the underground level with the speed race where I failed is what almost nobody completes.
And I only brought that up to illustrate how little I knew of TMNT, since I considered Battle Toads to be the same thing even back in the day when it was topical.
Man, If I could, I would just watch cartoons all day so I could catch up with everything... but when you are 30, it's no longer an easy nor desirable option...

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-04-30 10:58:30 +0000 UTC]

I have... no idea what is this about. I think I don't know the franchise or this creator at all. Have I referred to it in the past?

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-04-30 14:06:10 +0000 UTC]

no you havent refferenced in the past but i thought it would be interesed or and would be your taste with cute anthro design, an interesign world (sky/steampunk world) and contrast with some serious stuff (not so much tail concerto).


ps1 Tail concerto and Solatorobo DS

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-05-02 15:22:46 +0000 UTC]

I see... Maybe if I have nothing to do... maybe that's gonna be the case two weeks from now. Just yesterday, I played the indie game Wild Hunters that was almost impossible to find after the author removed his presence from the Internet.
Though it's too bad that I have almost no experience even with the big mainstream games. Maybe I should probably get some more experience if I want to critically talk about games as a whole.

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blackwolfanime In reply to Dracold [2018-05-02 19:57:38 +0000 UTC]

well  this series isnt mainstream so isnt that know, tail concerto ps1 wasnt that succesfull in his days because it was in the time when its was consider for kids if the characters werent human  and Solatorobo meanwhile it was well recived it was sold that much hell its harder to find nowdays.

i dont expect to be this game (and the other 2 vengance games for that matter) to be big mainstream big seller but more to little-middle tier sales  but seen that they may be more accesibles and multiples platform to play it it will get more knwlable than his 2 predecessor.

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Dracold In reply to blackwolfanime [2018-04-30 10:56:38 +0000 UTC]

I can't find the comics. And from what I know of them, I don't feel exactly forced to try and actively look them up.
The artwork and attitude of the few pages I read made me think of the now canceled Klonoa comic. Inconsequential harmless tour around some places and characters established in different canons. Guess that's why there was no fuel to sustain that comic.

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