DragonFirebender In reply to PearlsBird [2015-10-22 22:57:42 +0000 UTC]

Thank you@@

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PearlsBird In reply to DragonFirebender [2015-10-23 14:42:10 +0000 UTC]

Youre welcome!   

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DragonFirebender In reply to ceruleanmacaw [2015-06-29 18:56:14 +0000 UTC]

Alguns erros sobre as aves, e estereótipos da cultura do meu país
Mas eu gosto do filme, gostei do 2 também!
O 2 me irrita pelo fato de abordar um assunto sério (desmatamento da Amazônia) e não falar a verdadeira causa desse problema, que é a produção de carne
E você? o que gostou ou não gostou no filme?

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ceruleanmacaw In reply to DragonFirebender [2015-06-29 22:55:27 +0000 UTC]

Eu gostou dos caracters, da musica, dos coloridos, e do andar. 

Eu concordo sobre a producao de carne. Nao pensei na aquela verdade.

E interessante ver o que voce pensou na cultura no filme. E ironico. O director Carlos Saldanha era carioca; ele desejava o filme com poucos estereotipos. 

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DragonFirebender In reply to ceruleanmacaw [2015-06-15 03:35:51 +0000 UTC]

Claro! Pode falar comigo ^^
Eu gosto de Rio, mas algumas coisas sobre o filme não me agradam.
O que você gosta de fazer? Desenhar?

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ceruleanmacaw In reply to DragonFirebender [2015-06-15 20:09:11 +0000 UTC]

Muito obrigado. Sim; eu gosto de desenhar, ler, e sacudir. Por vezes, eu escrito.^^

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DragonFirebender In reply to GriffinWind [2015-01-13 16:47:33 +0000 UTC]

I love you more

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DragonFirebender In reply to Jandreau [2014-12-28 00:16:33 +0000 UTC]

Yes! How are you?

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Jandreau In reply to DragonFirebender [2014-12-29 16:06:49 +0000 UTC]

*hugs your feetpaws* I'm doing ok! how bout you? been a while 3

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DragonFirebender In reply to Jandreau [2015-01-04 22:27:17 +0000 UTC]

I'm ok too
yeah, it's been a long time hehe

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Jandreau In reply to DragonFirebender [2015-01-07 09:46:43 +0000 UTC]

goodgood! still drawing lovely feetpaws I see

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DragonFirebender In reply to GeneticHybridHuman [2014-12-22 17:03:16 +0000 UTC]

Good I guess

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GeneticHybridHuman In reply to DragonFirebender [2014-12-22 17:53:16 +0000 UTC]

Glad to hear it. What are you and the other two doing now? Like, what jobs do you have or something?

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DragonFirebender In reply to omgwtfsteph [2014-10-16 18:26:02 +0000 UTC]

Thank you sis!! <33
They look great, I love the lines and the background is so pretty too!

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DragonFirebender In reply to Chari-Artist [2014-10-16 18:23:54 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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Chari-Artist In reply to DragonFirebender [2014-10-16 18:52:56 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! ^^

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DragonFirebender In reply to TheSilversouled-wolf [2014-10-02 20:09:08 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry, but I'm barely having time to draw my own things lately, college is draining my soul haha

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DragonFirebender In reply to GriffinWind [2014-07-31 05:05:54 +0000 UTC]

Se você pensa em me dominar, perdeu seu tempo,
Nem mesmo se você juntar um regimento.

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GriffinWind In reply to DragonFirebender [2014-07-31 05:59:43 +0000 UTC]

Mas se não quer se aborrecer, é melhor eu te dizer..

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DragonFirebender In reply to GriffinWind [2014-07-31 18:04:32 +0000 UTC]

Não toque em mim, e chega pra lá!
Sai fora daqui, que eu quero passar!

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DragonFirebender In reply to GriffinWind [2014-07-31 03:02:18 +0000 UTC]

It's extremely pitiful, how could I be on the side of people who think it's ok to kills birds, I'm a bird lover after all

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DragonFirebender In reply to Nushaa [2014-07-22 18:28:58 +0000 UTC]

Aww, you're so cute 
Thanks for these kind words, it really brightens my day u#u

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DragonFirebender In reply to GriffinWind [2014-06-03 17:35:41 +0000 UTC]

Não perdoo
Eu não te mereço, sniff

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DragonFirebender In reply to GriffinWind [2014-07-31 03:05:36 +0000 UTC]

Pay for billions of birds to die just so you feel pleasure in your mouth and tell me how much you love birds.
Carnists are so pathetic, fucking shit.

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GriffinWind In reply to DragonFirebender [2014-07-31 03:11:13 +0000 UTC]

Also they come talk to us and tell us not to shove beliefs in other's face.
They feel so guilty they get so mad huahuahuaa

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DragonFirebender In reply to GriffinWind [2014-07-31 03:17:36 +0000 UTC]

"Stop replying to people that replied to you, you're making me mad! >:C"

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Cypselurus In reply to GriffinWind [2014-07-30 23:24:21 +0000 UTC]

You can't 'go and eat a fucking macaw' because that's illegal.. ._. 

And I'm sure a lot of people would disagree with your logic. There are hunters who love wildlife, but hunting is just a way of life for them. Many native tribes living on the greay plains deeply respect buffalo, but does that stop them from eating them? No ._. Just because you love an animal or respect it doesn't stop you from eating it..

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blackquarterback In reply to Cypselurus [2014-08-04 03:54:39 +0000 UTC]

i'm going to kill and eat someone's dog. it's okay though, i respect the animal and i loooove dogs.

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Cypselurus In reply to blackquarterback [2014-08-04 03:57:47 +0000 UTC]

Okay. 

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GriffinWind In reply to Cypselurus [2014-07-30 23:55:27 +0000 UTC]

Something being "illegal" doesn't stop people from doing it. And for the matter, many things that ARE legal, are wrong. Did you know it used to be legal to buy and sell human beings? Well, it was LEGAL, and it doesn't immediately make it ok. Just as being illegal doesn't mean it's something wrong. Society is corrupted, so many things are taught and learned and are wrong. Macaws are birds like chicken are, so why is it legal to eat chicken? Because society is speciesist and you've been brainwashed to agree.

I think it was quite obvious that when I said "They just eat their decomposed carcass and pretend to "love" birds in a website." I wasn't referring to natives. I'm referring to people who live in a city, surf the net, and eat meat they bought from a refrigerator in a supermarket. If a person's living depends on them killing, that's something. Someone having access to a bunch of different kinds of food, but CHOOSING to buy meat, from an animal that was rised from birth in a very small cage, who never looked at the sky or stepped in grass, but lived for years between bars, until one day being dragged out, had their throat sliced while still alive, and literary bled to death, that's something very different. And I'm sure people on this website who claim to love birds do not kill birds themselves to eat because otherwise they would starve, if that was the case, then being "illegal" wouldn't stop them from eating a macaw to save their lives.
No, you can't love an animal and choose to kill them. You have options, and the people I referred to do as well.

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Cypselurus In reply to GriffinWind [2014-07-31 00:15:41 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I realize that, I'm not as stupid as you probably think I am The slave trade used to be legal, yes, but now its illegal. For a very good reason. And that reason is not in any way comparable to eating parrots or chickens. It was the well-doing and the unseen rights of thousands of actual people with families they were taken away from, and emotions and feelings just like any other person. They weren't objects or items. I'm not saying chickens are objects or items either, but comparing the legality of a cruel and torturous practice on humans is different from a similar practice on animals. And that's because a large number of the macaws are threatened species in the wild. When was the last time you saw the Chicken or the Red Junglefowl on that list? Protecting Macaws is currently a priority because their habitat is shrinking in the wild, and they're in danger of extinction. Some species have already gone extinct in the past. Chickens are still here, still with us, and still in large enough numbers to be raised for consumption for humans. And of course we as a species are speciesist ._. I don't need you to tell me that, or anybody to tell me that. The large majority of people think of animals as beneath them, as inferiors, because they're in a sense correct. I love animals and want to protect the environment, but that's not gonna happen if you treat an animal as complete equals. If you think of an animal as like a human equal, how are you going to tag a shark? Or stick a dart holding a tracking device into the skin of a whale? We as a species are more than other animals, even though we still are animals at our roots. Other animals exploit each other- some ants drive slaves, and some parasitic species almost depend entirely on other species. And animals eat each other. A lot. Even if we're not superior to animals, and were equal to them, we can still consume them, like they do to each other ._.

No, I'm sorry, it wasn't terribly clear. Why can't a native use a website? Even if some do follow the current lifestyle, quite a number still have access to internet and a whole plethora of other modern resources. Or do you think all natives are just wild people living in jungles and not knowing about electricity or something? Cause that is most certainly not the case for Native Americans nowadays. And a Native has a choice too, really- they can eat berries, can eat rooted plants like certain nutritious tubers, they can eat all kinds of vegetable food that wouldn't require them to eat animals. They have that choice too, and they choose to eat meat. Why? Well, I imagine meat tastes better than just bland wild celery, but I really haven't much of an idea, as I've never lived their lifestyle. There is also (correct me if I'm wrong here) a certain number of nutrients in meat you can't get from vegetables only. And also, I realize that a lot of chickens are raised in battery farms, but there are still others that are not. If you want to eat a nicely-raised chicken, buy one from a more organic farm (and if you don't trust the label, go visit the farm yourself if its near you) if you can find one of those. Here, a large number of the chickens are just allowed to roam in farmside areas or in forest, and come back at night. They live a decent life really, and it actually makes their meat better than those raised in tiny and cramped conditions. Well, I'm not sure of the age of the other people here, but I'm 14 ._. And I live in a big city. I don't see any live chickens unless I visit the countryside, so I don't have a great number of opportunities to kill chickens..or any other birds really, cause others have killed them already.

Well, here's one choice that most people who love an animal still choose to kill it- if you love your dog dearly, but you see that he's getting old, and he has a tumor or some other sickness ailing him, what do you do? Most people choose to kill him and gently put him to sleep, instead of allowing him to suffer. 

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GriffinWind In reply to Cypselurus [2014-07-31 00:53:26 +0000 UTC]

First off, I don't think you're stupid, but read what I wrote. What I said was just an example on how legal-illegal isn't a worth argument to go to when we're talking ethics. Also, I did not compare what happened to these people to what happens to animals, go read again. You seem to have missed the point. People in no way don't eat macaw because they are endangered, it's because they captivate the general public. Just go do research, on how Dodos were extinguished from earth because humans ate them all, or how sharks are critically endangered because people like to drink shark soup. People don't eat macaws because macaws are "cute". Also, chicken aren't around in a number that is ok for us to eat, they are domesticated species who are bred purposely for human consumption. Also, thinking of animals as having equal value does not, by any means, mean treating them like humans. Different animals have different needs, and should be respected for their form of life, and not be treated like human, as if they needed to be human in the first place, to have value.

Of course natives can use the internet, but I think I, once again made it quite clear, I'm talking about people with no options. Someone who lives in a city and go to super markets have choices, it doesn't matter if they're natives or not. I said someone who chooses to eat meat, anyone. And no, not all natives have access to fruits, or have enough amount of fruits to feed their entire population. Tribes who live in very cold weathers can't get any type of vegetables and have no choice.

Have you ever heard of vegans? Or maybe vegetarians? All the nutrients you get from an animal came from the vegetables they ate first. You don't need meat for any nutrient. And so what if a chicken had space to move? Why are you even saying that when you don't actually care? They're going to die, because someone paid for it to be done. If your dog is sick, what's to do? But why kill not just one animal, but billions of very healthy animals, just for taste? Is that what you call loving animals? Also, you say you want to help the environment, really? Then that's just one more reason not to eat meat, because production of animal products are the biggest cause of deforestation, water waste, water and soil pollution, gas emission, waste of food starving people could eat, and waste of land.

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Cypselurus In reply to GriffinWind [2014-07-31 01:22:06 +0000 UTC]

Okay, that was my bad then I just assumed that you thought I was dim or something, as you felt the need to explain what it was. I agree with you there though, but I don't agree with the rest of what you're saying in the rest of the paragraph. I'm sorry if I misunderstood you,  but it seemed as if you were drawing a line between the people and the animals. Obviously I was wrong. And really? I live here in China, where it doesn't matter how cute something is, people still eat them. Doves, Kingfishers, Woodpeckers, and a lot of other birds that may be considered cute are hunted and eaten. The physical appeal or the environmental status of an animal is not relevant here. Maybe cuteness is a factor for consumption of an animal where you are, but it is most certainly not here. And if you think of China as being a rather narrow area, Puffins, which are considered cute, are eaten in some European areas where they're common. Do I think they're cute? Yes, they're lovely little birds. I also think chickens, rabbits, and frogs are cute. I've eaten all three of those, though the last one didn't taste so good. Rabbits also captivate children, and yet I've seen children completely willingly eating rabbit when they knew what it was, and because it tasted good. Yes, I know about Dodos They were eaten out of existence to feed sailors on the Mauritius islands, yes. And yes, I know about the sharks too. In my local restaurant, there's a giant shark fin from an Oceanic Whitetip, I think, being displayed in the open :/ Its quite sad really, that the rest of the shark just goes to waste, compared to say, most of the cow or most of the pig or chicken being eaten. Why aren't chickens around in a number that is okay for us to eat? I'm not sure if you were just referring to the original wild species (least concern) or the domestic species (which are common worldwide), but both of them are still common, the latter abundant. The Domestic Chicken is (as a whole, though I imagine some older decorative breeds are becoming rare) in large numbers, probably enough for us to eat for a while. So are Cows, Pigs, Sheep etc. I never said that an animal needed to be like a human to have value, I merely stated that some people think of animals as like human, and thus can't seem to do a thing against them. All wild animals have some sort of value in their own ecosystem. An eagle or a buffalo doesn't need to be human to have value..

I understand that you are referring to natives with a limited menu which is predominantly dominated by meat, but there are still a large amount of natives out there who have a lot of options yet still go for animals. Natives living in jungles for example, eat animal as well as plant. Can they eat only plant? Probably, as they're a large amount of edible plants that they know the can eat, but they hunt as well. Hunting and bringing down a large animal may be an important part of a boy's life, and so part of their culture. I know that Eskimos, as well as some Northern European natives have only access to mammals like Seal, or Caribou, or Moose. Those people don't have a choice during the cold winters, but some people definitely do, and they choose to eat both animals and plants. 

Yes, I've heard of vegetarians ^^ I'm actually quite good friends with one, we talk about raising fish and birds and whatnot all the time. And okay, I'm guessing I read wrong in class then. Not the first time the school textbooks have been wrong, that one's my bad. And honestly, everything's going to die, many prematurely :I Animals get eaten by other animals in the wild, and people die from accidents or diseases often. However, if you're talking solely about domestic animals, yes, they're going to die because someone ordered it to be done. They're not going to stop dying if a number of people refute meat. They're going to keep on dying because many people love eating meat, and still want it. If you stick to just vegetables, that's fine, but please don't force other people to. They do what they want, and what they want is to eat chicken. 

I wouldn't say its the biggest cause. The deforestation of the Amazon in many areas was for farming crops like Coffee, and the deforestation in Borneo is often due to the planting of oil palms and their expansive and wildlife-forsaken farms. Here in China, crops usually come first in many areas, with chickens and some smaller farm animals being added in the backyard as a sidethought more or less. Am I saying that some areas have not suffered to build large animal farms? Of course not. But its not the only reason for those issues happening. If the whole world turns vegan, and all animals are banned from eating, that just means more expansive and probably more intensive plant farms. Are thousands of acres of one species of plant good for wildlife? A few species, maybe, but generally not a whole lot more. An example (though not a good one, I'll admit, as the Oil Palm isn't grown for consumption, but for, well, oil..) are the Oil Palm farms we saw in Sabah, Borneo. They were logged extensively and all the wildlife crowded out to produce these massive farms that support nothing but the commonest species, like some smaller mammals and a few species of birds. There are still around 20 species or more possible in these farms, but compared to the virgin rainforest next door, that number's almost nothing. Even if you eliminate animal farms, the destruction of the environment is still going to continue on a massive scale. 

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