ashleylindgren In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-25 21:45:36 +0000 UTC]

Lol there aren't any trolls around here. If you aren't sure about what the bad blood is, then you shouldn't assume anything either way~

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zepheyr In reply to ashleylindgren [2011-04-27 04:41:53 +0000 UTC]

I prefer to make my own judgements about people. I wonder if you can do the same thing, "lol."

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Shoshan1290 In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-28 19:34:39 +0000 UTC]

See the thing is is that NO one here is a troll. Do you know why people have an issue with her? Because she has told SO many lies and things about people over the years. She's lied about being raped and beaten. She's made fun of people, bullied them, talked shit, and done every other heinous thing you can think of. I, like Ashley, know her offline. I went to high school with her and she mouthed off to me one too many times. She used to bully people and call them names -- spreading lies about them and making them feel miserable. So what did I do? I punched her right in her face a few times. Did she learn a lesson? Nope not at all. See it's easy to call someone a troll but the "bad blood" you mention extends FAR beyond just the internet. She has been a bitch to so many people -- so it's bound to return to her someday.

If you don't like it then don't get involved, but do not sit here and try to defend someone who victimizes themselves for absolutely no reason -- other than undue sympathy and support. People who treat other people like crap get it returned to them threefold.


As for you, Jessica, you really need to stop talking shit about people and trying to play the "pity me" card. Anyone who KNOWS you offline and in REAL LIFE knows you are a lying, manipulating, whore who takes great pleasure in trying to fuck people over. I cannot even count the times you were cheating on people, trying to steal other girls boyfriends, spreading lies about people, bullying other girls, and just generally being a walking vagina.

No one pities you so get over yourself already.

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zepheyr In reply to Shoshan1290 [2011-04-28 22:18:12 +0000 UTC]

I wish I had as much interest in this as you do, but sadly I do not. My investment is only passing, so I would just ask that you keep the juvenile drama off of deviantart. Don't turn this into Facebook.

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Shoshan1290 In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-29 00:35:29 +0000 UTC]

Then if your "investment" is passing how about you do the smart thing and just fuck off about it? The "drama" as you like to call it not drama at all -- simply people airing their opinions. If you don't like it you can leave. Crazy idea, right?

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zepheyr In reply to Shoshan1290 [2011-04-29 00:59:14 +0000 UTC]

Ooo, a hormonal teenager! What enthusiastic drama.

Your rabid frothing and foaming at the mouth is such a wonderful gift. What was a situation easily forgotten is now memorable. That little baby tantrum is going to keep me tuned in for more. My passing interest can easily evolve into a vested interest--not in whomever the person you're so virulent about, but in how much bigger an infant you can make yourself out to be. I wonder how loud your baby antics will get?

What presumptuous pissing will you throw at me? Please, give it your best shot, tiger. Let's turn this into a pissing contest, because I think I'd like to stay now.

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ashleylindgren In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-29 04:01:04 +0000 UTC]

You're beginning to be rather predictable in every single one of your replies thus far, how about changing it up since I'm sure you're going to keep on being a hypocrite and replying? We're getting awfully bored with your redundant 'insults'.

Oh wait - let me guess! The next one will include a synonym of the word baby, claims of 'passing interest', and some 'intelligent-sounding' words to make it seem like you're any better than anyone else. Yawn.

Shoshan, get the popcorn just in case this gets more entertaining. If worse comes to worse we can always find something else amusing to watch.

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zepheyr In reply to ashleylindgren [2011-04-29 07:06:36 +0000 UTC]

In context, the former reply will make more sense if read as a response to Shoshan, even though I indicated I was replying to you both. I will have obviously already perused your profiles, so I'm aware that at least ashley does have some sort of life, and it was Shoshan that brought me back anyway, and most of my responses were to him. I'm also aware that you have a habit of flying off the deep end at people you think deserve it, but likewise you defend people that don't. This makes your reply to me understandable. Keep in mind, though, I have no real beef with anyone here--I'm just defending myself after trying to concede with some dignity, and having it stomped on as I was on my way out the door. I really *did* mean it when I said I don't care about your pissing contest with FalaAleece. This is about me now, and how far you want this to go.

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ashleylindgren In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-30 03:00:26 +0000 UTC]

I understand where you're coming from. At least you're respectable about everything.

Yes, I have a habit of flying off the deep end, but my original reply to you, although I had a feeling it would cause needless drama, was the whole 'troll' thing. I hate being called a troll when I've seen what a troll can do (mainly on gaiaonline.com, they're anonymous and will make insults completely off topic for no reason at all). I didn't mean to come off as angry, I was more or less just trying to say I'm not a troll and your response came off as pompous to me. However, when you can't hear a person's tone of voice or read body language, it is very easy to misunderstand. That's why its so easy for me to snap online. I rarely snap offline due to the fact that its harder to misunderstand face-to-face. I still defend people that I think should be defended - for example, FalaAleece (not that I'm asking you to judge-simply an example) took a picture at the Walmart in our hometown of a greeter that is very sweet and from what I can collect, is special needs or born with something that made her look different from your 'average' person - nothing she did wrong to anyone. FalaAleece posted the picture publically on her Twitter basically stating that the greeter was ugly and sarcastically thanked Walmart for providing unattractive greeters for their customers. That is one of the current reasons for my ever increasing disapproval for her, high school drama aside. For the most part, I won't go into annihilation mode unless I feel a need to. I'm a patient and kind person but I tend to stand up for people, even if it doesn't seem like a practical solution to most, it has been the only effective solution to keep bullies in check. I believe that sometimes you have to give a person a taste of their own medicine to perhaps show them that their ways hurt others - and that is almost always after trying every other peaceful approach I can think of. I'm not perfect, I know this, and as any other human I err and let my anger get the best of me.

Also, Shoshan is a sister to me even though we aren't related by blood - we've been through a lot together. So of course I'm going to defend her, same for her defending me.

I suppose an apology is order on my end - I shouldn't have gone on a crusade on you, or assumed you were trying to be an ass when your reply could have been a simple, non-snotty statement. On the internet in general, I'm used to nothing but assaults on simple comments, but I should remember that not everyone is going out of their way to be a jerk. I'm sorry for that. I'm not sorry that I got to see someone with a brain make valid points, however. I needed a good dose of that.

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zepheyr In reply to ashleylindgren [2011-04-29 06:51:23 +0000 UTC]

I just KNEW the two of you would be back, and together no less! Talk about being "rather predictable." :wink:

I'll just reply to you darling, since your vitriolic friend seems to be joined to your hip.

Where to begin...

I'm sure you'll recall that in my prior replies to both of you, I indicated I was not aware of the reasoning behind your vitriol, nor did I particularly care. However, I also conceded that in light of this, perhaps I should just move on and call it a day; there was sound reason in your argument and I accepted that, and had every intention of forgetting this discourse until Shoshan spewed his/her hate-filled rant at me. I'd already forgotten I'd even made the original comment in the first place, until ashleylindgren replied to it a week or so later. I think probably back then I was shocked at all the hate I saw "FalaAleece" getting, and felt sorry for her. I typically despise people turning art accounts in Facebook walls, but eh. Post that, I don't even know who she is. Anyway, I passed off the remark that you would both surely be back, despite the two of you suggesting that I either wasn't worth your time or you had better things to do. Both amusing sentiments, since it takes what, five minutes to write up a reply? One if your wpm is high? This one is lengthy so I'm sure it will take me five.

You were left with the cards, with me submitting, and that should have been it. Then your frenetic little buddy kicked me on the way out. I think my point and/or intentions went far over his/her head. Rather than accepting my exit, you pushed the issue, and so I am replying back to you. Now I have a vested interest. Why are you replying to me?

As for the ad hominem attacks, that's what makes this so juicy, isn't it? I encourage you to throw more. I'll give you some responses, Shoshan, so you have more to work with. I have a web-based business so I work from home, so there's the job you want me to get, and also solves the mystery of how I can reply so quickly--I'm already at a computer. Like most normal people I also have a smartphone, which conveniently lets me know when any of my various user accounts or emails around the web have been replied to. I would think everyone by now would be aware that with the economy the way it is, lots of people work from home and almost everyone I know has their facebooks, deviantarts, myspaces, work/personal emails, etc. linked to their phones. Get out of your cave. I'm also married, and I have a dog and five cats. So there's the life you expect me to have--my wife and pets, all who live very comfortably. What do you have?

While you both might have never seen me again, I am now going to string this out as far as you continue to reply to me, and perhaps moreso. You see, Shoshan, when you acted like an idiot to someone who just conceded to you, that perked my interest. Now I'm here to stay, despite whomever "FalaAleece" is, or whatever she's done to you.

So, shall we get off our high horses and begin some real mudslinging? I can go for years. Let's just leave FalaAleece out of it and attack each other, since we all seem to be so good at it. But first, please take your heads out of your asses. And pass me some of that popcorn.

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ashleylindgren In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-30 02:42:12 +0000 UTC]

My reason for replying, although I originally intended to stop, is if you're going to try to insult someone, being repetitive with the insults is boring. How many times are you going to imply that we are crybabies or teenagers with raging hormones? I wouldn't have even cared as much if you didn't say the same thing, except basically switching around words, in every reply. In fact, some of your non-repetitive insults left me slightly impressed. For me its an amusing game at this point, I'm not even taking anything personally. I'm respecting you a little bit more because for once someone isn't just backing down and blocking people.

I said what I needed to say, however with every reply I will probably have something to comment on. This specific reply is filled with acceptable content that you haven't said, for the most part at least. And the thing about Shoshan, is if you say anything remotely mean-sounding to me, she'll rip you a new one. Or your typical person, at least. Its an endearing quality in my opinion.

Considering Shoshan and I are best friends for years, of course we're going to both reply, however I will not reply to every single comment because I, myself, have a husband and two toddlers running around, as well as a full-time job that I am highly dedicated to. That's why it took me so long to reply today. My last concern is the internet. I do have some time to spare, and at the moment I'm amused enough to think replying to you isn't such a waste of time, when I do happen to be online. I don't have my online accounts connected to my smartphone, or anything like that - I understand some people do so I can see what you mean.

And until my next reply - do you prefer your popcorn with extra butter and salt?

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Shoshan1290 In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-29 03:38:30 +0000 UTC]

Oh I'm a teenager now? Not by far, thank you

As far as what I have to say to you -- get ready for it!




NOTHING.

This doesn't concern you, as I said, so you're setting yourself up for some massive disappointment. It also makes me wonder what type of person you are that you state that you "don't care" so much and so often, yet you sit around nosing into a situation completely unrelated to you because now it's "SEEEEEEEEEW INTERESTING GUYZ!"


Puke.

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ashleylindgren In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-27 05:57:46 +0000 UTC]

I'm basing my judgement on facts and experiences offline, as opposed to bullcrap online journals claiming to be victimized when in reality she's as much of a bully as anyone else, if not more at times. She knows who I am and why I'm pissed at her, even though she feigns innocence. I'm not saying don't like her. I'm saying don't start calling someone a troll when they're not being one, especially if you have no clue what's going on. I'm not the only one, either. Is everyone who dislikes her a troll just because they tell her all the shit she's done to them, or just because they don't like her 'modeling'? The answer is no.

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zepheyr In reply to ashleylindgren [2011-04-27 08:01:25 +0000 UTC]

I think someone needs her bottle.

How many people do you suppose view this person's profile without being privy to the little baby war going on? The answer is unknowable, but I suggest it is many. To an outside observer, which in this case would be 99% of the people visiting DA, you guys look like a bunch of annoying crybabies with an urgent need to steal this person's cookies.

Honestly, I don't know who this woman is or who anyone here is; care is minimal. However, you're defending a cavalcade of toddlers, that much is obvious. Whether or not she deserves to be pissed on is neither here nor there; what is relevant is that nobody but you and whomever else is involved in your little spat really knows or gives a damn about it. All I was saying is that you guys are a bunch of trolls, which you are.

Looks like we're right back where we started, no? I hope you feel educated.

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ashleylindgren In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-28 19:24:53 +0000 UTC]

I'd kick you off your high horse but there's no need. I'll just sit here and shake my head, while laughing, at your pathetic attempt to condescend.

You were and outside observer. OUTSIDE observer. Then stay outside of business that isn't yours. You say we're a bunch of crybabies? What does that make you, when you sit here arguing with me when I specifically told you, YOU can like her, but don't call us trolls when you don't know anything she's done to us? Please, like you're so mature.

I find it funny that out of all the supposed outside observers that think we're crybabies, only you and maybe two of her friends said anything about this. The difference is, if you really don't give a damn about what's going on, then shut up and get the hell out. Go research the actual definitions of a troll. We are not anonymous, and I'm not saying irrelevant things. There was a pre-existing argument when I joined. I'm not saying anything untruthful. I go on sites with real trolls all the time, sorry to break it to you but clearly you need to educate yourself on internet lingo before you start spewing it at people.

Again, like her all you want, but if you're gonna comment, don't start pointing fingers and causing more drama. There are ways to be supportive without getting into other people's drama. That makes you just as much of a crybaby as anyone else, and trying to put yourself on a pedastal makes these 'outside observers' laugh at you just as much as anyone else~

If you want to keep up with your redundant rants, then by all means, feel free. But since you're now labeled as an outside observer, I'm not wasting my time on you. I have better things to do than argue with some person thinking I have no right to voice to this girl my opinions. Welcome to the internet. Get used to it.

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zepheyr In reply to ashleylindgren [2011-04-28 22:14:36 +0000 UTC]

I kind of read your reply, but mostly glazed over it. Without the interest in understanding why you're so invested in disliking this person, I'll concede the matter, as it's apparent this is pretty important to you; moreso than I care to argue about it. I'll submit that I should consider your arguments before passing judgement, but I lack the enthusiasm to push this further, as I had only a marginal interest in the first place.

I would only request that you consider the statements from your last paragraph when suggesting your have more important things to do than arguing with me (I read that part, at least). Had I wanted to continue this I wonder how long you would have kept it up, and which one of us would have stopped first.

Carry on.

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Shoshan1290 In reply to zepheyr [2011-04-29 03:40:31 +0000 UTC]

Definitely not you, huh sweetcheeks? You seem to have no life to speak of, so you spend hours on here typing away. I mean seriously -- we reply and get an almost instantaneous reply back. Crazy! Get a job, a family, a life, go to school -- do something. But don't nose into a situation completely unrelated to you.

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FalaAleece In reply to R-Legend [2010-07-15 04:34:34 +0000 UTC]

well besides the fact that I found my dA spammed by someone calling me a fat tub of lard and a piece of shit and such... I'm fine. Just trying to get by. I never got your number btw and you still need to make a facebook.

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R-Legend In reply to FalaAleece [2010-07-17 01:50:23 +0000 UTC]

No kidding. Jealous troll is jealous. Apparently you did something right at SoyCon because you earned a hater. Here, I'll send you a note for my number. And I'm dealing with Facebook on Saturday.

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FalaAleece In reply to R-Legend [2010-07-21 14:56:30 +0000 UTC]

Ha.. it's not someone from SoyCon. I have an idea about where they're from, but in all reality what does it matter.. It's not like anyone frequents this site, and the photographers I work with know my work and trust what they've seen, not someone making mindless comments behind a fake site trying to get a rise out of me. Haters gunna Hate. lol <3

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ashleylindgren In reply to FalaAleece [2010-10-28 09:32:03 +0000 UTC]

Mindless huh? That's funny because anyone that REALLY knows you and knows what you have done/still do, and actually has any moral value...says exactly the same stuff. I guess we're all just crazy and wrong, huh?

No, more like, we aren't stupid and know your stupid 'pity me' tricks.

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Shoshan1290 In reply to R-Legend [2010-07-17 13:41:01 +0000 UTC]

Nooooo.

Not jealous. I'd never be jealous of her. D: She's hideous.

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ashleylindgren In reply to Shoshan1290 [2010-09-21 07:45:07 +0000 UTC]

Nobody is jealous of her unless they like being seen as sad trainwrecks that are known for cheating, sleeping around, and vying for attention. Oh, and telling people with actual lives to get a life. I find that hilarious.

"Let me learn from my own mistakes" yet she whines everywhere about how shitty her life is...doesn't TRY to make it better by changing her ways. Just the same as in high school. How is that 'learning' from anything? And the classic "LOOK AT THIS BEER PIC BUT IM REALLY JUST SHOWING MY ARM THAT I CUT /EMO PAY ATTENTION TO ME" shit. xD

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FalaAleece In reply to AndersonPhotography [2009-09-08 05:29:27 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry.. my computer has been acting screwy.. I'll get what I can done asap.. I'm sorry. while I'm here at college I don't even have the internet on my computer.. I have to work on that too this weekend.

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AndersonPhotography In reply to FalaAleece [2009-09-08 14:32:06 +0000 UTC]

aw damn, that sucks! i kinda need internet with college work.

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FalaAleece In reply to Evapilot00 [2009-07-29 22:55:30 +0000 UTC]

haha thanks. and I've been alright. I figured it was about time I get on again seeing as I'm going to college for photography. I'll need somewhere to put it all.

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Evapilot00 In reply to FalaAleece [2009-07-30 06:34:27 +0000 UTC]

lol yea and this place is good for it too, Not alot of rules and you have some more freedoms. I realy like your photography and look forward to seeing more of it.

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FalaAleece In reply to Evapilot00 [2009-08-07 06:16:56 +0000 UTC]

well turns out I'm not taking photography now after all.. lol Visual Communication ((Graphic Design))

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Evapilot00 In reply to FalaAleece [2009-08-07 06:28:47 +0000 UTC]

it happens. youre stil following your dreams so stick with the changes lol

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FalaAleece In reply to AndersonPhotography [2009-07-25 06:47:51 +0000 UTC]

hahahhahahaa I fuckin' love you.. I was contemplating telling you or letting you happen across me.. wondering how long it would take.. and SHARE THE BOOZE!!!

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AndersonPhotography In reply to FalaAleece [2009-07-25 06:51:03 +0000 UTC]

fuuuuckl. i just finished off like... 9 shots of bacardi... all my myself. im so fuckin gone right now. im spruded i can type. well... kinda... ol!

i want another hamburfer....

YOU ROCK!

plus, you're tooally hott..

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FalaAleece In reply to AndersonPhotography [2009-07-25 07:04:00 +0000 UTC]

hahaha I missed you Dear. lol and I have to admit you always make me smile when you drink lmao

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AndersonPhotography In reply to FalaAleece [2009-07-25 07:08:15 +0000 UTC]

HHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! fuckin rightttt!!!!!

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