IoNekta In reply to Michael101503 [2024-03-19 19:28:42 +0000 UTC]

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IoNekta In reply to BubbleDriver [2020-05-04 22:18:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, you too! 😊

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IoNekta In reply to Quailheart [2014-10-13 22:19:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! ((wow that bird is intense))

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IoNekta In reply to comixqueen [2014-10-13 22:20:58 +0000 UTC]

THANK YOU FRIEEEEND!   

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IoNekta In reply to MensjeDeZeemeermin [2014-10-13 22:21:45 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for those wonderful wishes!

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MensjeDeZeemeermin In reply to IoNekta [2014-10-13 22:23:52 +0000 UTC]

Now they must come true...

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IoNekta In reply to MensjeDeZeemeermin [2014-10-14 19:54:05 +0000 UTC]

I sure hope so!

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IoNekta In reply to Huskypawz [2014-10-13 22:24:13 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much!

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Huskypawz In reply to IoNekta [2014-10-13 22:36:02 +0000 UTC]

You're so welcome ^u^

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IoNekta In reply to MizzTimeLord [2014-07-09 21:00:33 +0000 UTC]

No problem! And you are very welcome!

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MizzTimeLord In reply to IoNekta [2014-07-10 00:33:22 +0000 UTC]

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IoNekta In reply to Hukkanaama [2014-07-04 22:45:54 +0000 UTC]

WuuaaaAAAAaaaaat? But... the... you... afgfghxs. Can't words. Too happy.    

Seriously, there's art that I like, and there's art that I enjoy, but I find your stuff truly inspiring. So thanks so much, it means a lot to me, and please feel free to drop any tips or critiques!

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IoNekta In reply to Nexu4 [2014-06-12 22:10:47 +0000 UTC]

You are very welcome, it's beautiful photo!

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IoNekta In reply to ThunderBadger [2014-05-21 12:51:53 +0000 UTC]

*picks up chant* *breaks all the windows*

I can't right now 'cause I'm right smack in the middle of my exams, but I'd love to art trade with you!

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ThunderBadger In reply to IoNekta [2014-05-23 18:53:08 +0000 UTC]

aw darn :c Hit me up when exams are done?

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IoNekta In reply to ThunderBadger [2014-05-23 19:32:42 +0000 UTC]

Sure thing!

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IoNekta In reply to WishmasterAlchemist [2014-05-17 16:09:10 +0000 UTC]

I LOVE IT!

Thank you so much, you are an angel!

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IoNekta In reply to nekonotaishou [2014-05-18 12:18:30 +0000 UTC]

I love it!

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IoNekta In reply to nekonotaishou [2014-05-06 17:01:20 +0000 UTC]

Past few days i went on a trip with my family, which was great, but now i have three weeks until my finals and ungh i swear everyday that passes there's a little more bile in the back of my mouth. Urgh, why i'm such a terrible student.

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nekonotaishou In reply to IoNekta [2014-05-06 17:27:07 +0000 UTC]

Augh, that sucks! I feel you. Including this week, I only have two more weeks left, but oh so much work to do I only hope I can get it all done on time...

But I have no doubt that you'll make it through your finals! You can do it! I believe in you! And there's always Calming Manatee for when you're feeling down And ice cream.

You're not terrible, you were just brave enough to pick a tough path. Compared to what you have to do, drawing horses and storyboards sounds so much easier
You'll kick those finals' butts, I know it!

And then we'll have all summer to skype and iscibble and all the fun stuff

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IoNekta In reply to nekonotaishou [2014-05-06 18:20:08 +0000 UTC]

Oh my. Then a minute of virtual hand-holding and respectful silence is in order for our dearly soon-to-be-fucked-up nerves and sleeping patterns. Bye.

Good luck to you too, bud. Sorry for the up-coming monster load of work, but i'm selfishly rubbing my hands expectantly for some of the artistic goodies you'll deliver when all this is over.   

I prefer the calmage wolfatee .

Thank you for the encouragement! I have to kick my butt in gear before I can kick those exams' butts, but I would very much like a summer of skype and iscribble and general artistic nerdness, so at least I'm going to try to give it my best.  

Mmmmh, sometimes I think it's the other way around. I was a bit of a coward for choosing a somewhat fail-safe career with a high employment rate, instead of something more animal or art related. I don't regret my choices but if I knew then what I know now, I'm pretty sure I would have chosen differently. *shrug*

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nekonotaishou In reply to IoNekta [2014-05-06 18:57:46 +0000 UTC]

We'll make it through, I know we will

If all goes well and I don't procrastinate too much, there should be some cool results

The figs is up with that wolfatee da heck...

Go go go! Kick butt! Then we can all doodle dragons and gryphons and ship our OCs and fun stuff like that!

Let me tell you right now that I would probably end up sleeping through the sort of lessons you have to go through. Sleeping or getting distracted, and probably fail a whole bunch of classes. You're strong because you can do that. Compared to what you have to learn, art techniques is really nothing...
Before I solidified my choice of going to art school, I was very seriously considering veterinary school. But then I imagined myself in a lecture hall, distracted as hell, doodling and missing out on the lecture. I imagined that I would have taken up the spot of someone who wanted to be there more than I did, and would have been a more dedicated student than I was. I imagined my parents, who paid for me to be there, and I would be, what? Distracted and doodling? No, I didn't want that. Then I realized that it has to be art for me.

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IoNekta In reply to nekonotaishou [2014-05-06 22:40:22 +0000 UTC]

Yesss! Doodl-a-dees! So much to aaaaart!

Yep. I see what you mean. Too well, actually. Because that is exactly what I do in class. X'D In school I would doodle on the edges of my notes, occasionally in a blank sheet if the class was particularly boring. But I didn't think much of it 'cause the people who like pure math, pure philosophy or pure geography are few and far between, meaning: I wasn't the only one getting distracted or bored.

I always thought that when I started college I'd be enamored with most of the subjects, so the doodling would be reduced to the class of the random soporific teacher. Buuut in reality it got much worse. There are some subjects I did enjoy (I got good marks on those, surprise surprise) but for most of them it was sitting down, taking a paper out to scribble the occasional note and a white sheet to start doodling right away. I don't believe there's a single subject where you won't find a whole bunch of doodles on the edges, sometimes between paragraphs even. And the frequency of those increased exponentially with each passing year. In my last year I would even take out references. I've thrown most of my "apuntes" away, but maybe I've saved some and then I can show you what I mean. -_-

I chose medicine not because I had a particular liking of the profession (although my father being a doctor might have had a bigger subjective influence than I can gouge?), but because of the careers I was considering at the time, it was without a doubt the hardest, and since my marks were good enough for me to get in, I thought that, in case later in life I wanted to do something different, it would be easier to do, say, psychology, than medicine. Not the best reason to chose a certain career path, that's for sure. Also, at eighteen in Spain, you really don't know shit from twat, I wish I had had a better insight/hand-on knowledge of possible careers and professions. In that aspect, the school system is seriously lacking. :/

Oh here I go rambling. All this to say that doodling is what I did in class mostly. And most of my exams have been studied in the inefficient tell-tale method of the lousy student: last minute cramming. And it has gotten me more than one nasty look from some of my classmates too. One of them would insistently spat at me the question of why didn't I just study art instead, not because she thought I could be a great artist, but because she resented me being there, and I can't blame her. I myself often wondered what the hell was I doing there, 'cause if you are not going to be a good doctor, it's better not to be a doctor at all. You can't half-ass a diagnosis or mess up a treatment. A person's health is not something to be taken lightly.

Mercifully pathology came to the rescue. It's the one and only specialty I'm considering doing (interestingly, a specialty a lot of doctors-to-be dislike, and even sneer at, despite it's importance). It's the only thing I feel I can do well, really well even, while avoiding emotional/psychological burn-out. And when I started medicine, it's a specialty I didn't even know existed. What'ya know.

And yet, now that I'm somewhat in touch with the artistic community via the internet, I feel more than ever than I would benefit from some... formal training. I'm passionate enough. One day, maybe. We'll see.

Is it obvious that I think a lot about these things when exam time approaches?

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nekonotaishou In reply to IoNekta [2014-05-06 23:44:47 +0000 UTC]

But here's the thing about me: I have ADD. For me, distracted means I take in about 40% of the lecture, maybe less. Distracted means I spent high school history and math classes making comic pages, tuning out almost everything else. I made it through high school because the classes were short and the lectures weren't info heavy, but if I were studying something else, I don't think I would have made it.
My class notes are often full of doodles, too, but at least the notes are actually there. I wasn't a very good note taker in high school.

Very similar thing happens here, too. A lot of people end up halfway through college with no idea what they want to do. Many end up with a degree in, oh I don't know, philosophy or something, and just get a normal job that has nothing to do with that degree. It's very sad.

... I sort of know where your (very rude, wtf!) classmate is coming from; I've had classmates who barely do the work, who watch youtube videos while the teacher is giving the lesson, who try to do hours' worth of homework in the 30 minutes before class starts, who are still working on the assignment from week 4 on week 13 (out of 15 weeks). Yeah, those classmates aren't too well liked. But they just don't seem to get that professional art isn't about grades or diplomas; no one in the industry gives a rat's ass about either. It's about the demoreel, the portfolio, what you can do.

But that's not the same as doodling in class ಠnಠ she didn't have to be so mean!

I'm glad to hear there's something you're good at that isn't something people usually go for, that's always good. Pathology sounds fascinating! Why wouldn't people like that? It sounds like a medicine that leans more towards research than healing people directly, and personally, I wouldn't trust myself with a person's life in my hands... that's just too much responsibility, the what-ifs would probably give me a mental breakdown. But researching? That's awesome.

The awesome thing about you being in Madrid is that you have regular access to some AMAZING art museums! When I went to El Prado there was a class or something there, scattered around the museum. Every now and then we'd round a corner and there would be someone with an easel, copying a still life of grapes, or a depiction of a Madonna, or something. It was fun talking to them, and showing them our sketchbooks. So you could hit the museums hardcore and study what the masters did, with light and shadow and composition, and ask some of the pros who are there for tips and advice and the like. If there's a class there, try to find the teacher, and ask them; teachers love to answer questions.
Take a sketchbook with you to a park and sketch some people. Maybe find a figure-drawing workshop? That would be super helpful, and fun! You could even set up your own still-life in your house and draw it (I recommend on charcoal paper; get some vine charcoal for the undersketch, a shammy cloth to erase big areas, a kneaded eraser for the detail work, conte for dark blacks, compressed charcoal for big areas, and charcoal pencils for the fine work. And an exacto knife and piece of rough sandpaper to sharpen the charcoal pencils. That's the supply list we get for charcoal classes)


Just a bit? Lol, but I feel you there, too.
One of my teachers was really good at what she did (ex Disney clean-up artist, responsible for the final line that goes up on the screen in 2D features. Very stressful job) but when it came to one-on-one critique with her, it was awful! It was always what was wrong, every teeny tiny detail I'd messed up on, what I still didn't get; practically no words on what was being done right. I spent the bus-ride back home after that class wondering if I was really where I should be. "It's not too late to switch to science..." is the sort of thought I would get all the time that semester. I got really close to physically crying many times, but was crying on the inside a lot. Then that class ended, and I'm stronger with the skills I learned C: (do I ever want another class with that teacher? Noooooooo!)

Just pull through the next few weeks, then take a break to think about your future

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IoNekta In reply to nekonotaishou [2014-05-07 12:22:28 +0000 UTC]

Ah yes, I see what you mean. Your ADD would have definitively been an added difficulty, but you are smart, I think you would have done fine if you liked the subject enough. How are you doing with it, btw? Weren't you trying to ease on the meds and see how you fared?

I learned to keep an ear poised to whatever was going on around me. In case I was asked, mostly. But sometimes I got really engrossed with what I was drawing and too late would I realize everyone had been scribbling furiously for the past five minutes, and then I had to catch up. XD

Ah yeah. Been learning about the system over there, it has some good points but you have to wonder. Apparently most jobs demand a college degree but it's not subject specific, you just need to have it. Just prove you've spent a boatload of money learning whatever. Generic stuff that won't apply to anything (?). In Spain degrees are more job oriented but the "enchufismo" (giving jobs to people you know/family members/favoritism) is a pretty big deal and messes up everything. You often have under-qualified people in high paying jobs and people with PhDs moving to Germany because they don't know "the right people". It's very sad. Our president can't even speak english for chrissake. It's disgraceful.

Oh, she was a nurse that had decided to become a doctor later in life. She had had to pass the +35 university entry exams to get into medicine, so she had every right to be miffed at me being there doodling the hours away. Some people would have given both their pinkies up to have the privilege to be where I was sitting then, don't you think I don't know that, but sadly so is life. Hopefully I'll be a damn good pathologist and I'll be able to internally "HA!" her.

We have different types in medicine. The marks are so high we don't have slackers like those. Nobody chooses medicine because it's the easiest thing to go for, but we get the other type. People so competitive they write their notes in green ink so they can't be photocopied. Or they purposefully misinform their classmates. There's some people there I seriously dread having them become doctors. Those kind of people create beefs between departments and mistreat residents and nurses, 'cause they think they are so much better than everyone else.

Eh, at least I didn't bother anyone (again, people who thought they were so great would talk in the classes they felt were beneath them, some people I swear). And I'm a really good project partner, I usually work my butt off on those (instead on focusing on studying, wooops).

Yes, I get it. Art college is really about acquiring as many skills as you can and on honing those you've got, 'cause that's what potential employers will be looking at. If you have nothing interesting to offer they won't give a damn about your A+++ (creo que un buen ejemplo de eso es nuestra querida compañera que-no-debe-ser-nombrada, que acabó algún "art college" con una recomendación del dean y no se qué pero como no salga un poco más de sus perros deformes y de sus fondos photoshop no va trabajar de eso en la vida). I realize now that professional art isn't really about how good you are at that one thing, but at being open-minded and versatile and knowing how to do all kinds of stuff (that's why the "it's my style" cry of rage kinda baffles me every time).

Indeed! Not usually sought for is good (I'm actually relying on that more than I dare to admit to land a residency spot, -cough cough-). Pathology with Radiology and Biochemistry belong to the branch of diagnostics and have little to do with what traditional medicine is about: healing and dealing with the patient. Pathology in particular belongs to the "damn weirdo" category since people that truly love medicine/doctoring cringe at the thought of spending their lives chopping up bits of humans and viewing them in tiny slides under the microscope for hours. You need a set of very different skills from your standard doctor. Mostly patience, conscientiousness, good visual memory and 3D spacing capabilities. My kind of thing.

Yes I feel you. I don't think I would be able to deal with the pressure in the long term either. Plus I internally scream when people start asking me questions about the diseases they have/had or the meds they are taking. Man, I really wasn't cut out to be a hands-on physician. XD I do enjoy medical trivia, though. I don't mind talking about that. Maybe one day I'll get that blog going. :>

Oh! A figure drawing class, I'd love that (ride that ridiculous back-breaking donkey!). I could try it on my own but damn I don't even know the name of those things in spanish. XD Nothing google can fix though.

Mmmyes. So far intense staring is all I've done. I should go out and just sketch, it is kind of dumb that I'm not taking advantage of this art-rich opportunity. I guess I just feel I'd look a bit like an ass. Ask questions, hurr, I don't know the first thing about art really. Last time I held a brush was... mmm... 20 years ago? OTL But you are absolutely right, my new artistic motto is "fail faster, fail better". If I don't give it a try, how will I ever know! 

Ah yes, you mentioned, she was the one that worked on Tarzan, right? I do believe some encouragement would have been good. But some teachers favor the "bashing style", they really want to see you burn, hopefully you'll rise better and stronger from the ashes, like a phoenix (there might be some who are just plain dicks, could be Hitler got a bunchful of those in art school and nnnngh the rest is history). Well, you rose at least. It's true that some artist are surprisingly thin skinned, as professionals you are going to have to face your designs being rejected and your work torn to pieces again and again, so you might as well start growing a bit of that pachydermus hide in college. And then learn from it all, of course, so that the amount of rejection and tearing steadily decreases as you learn to navigate those waters.

With the wisdom I've amassed in my quarter of a century (almost) of life and questionable decisions (like all decisions), I've learned that the future is heavily influenced by luck and opportunity. The best thing to do is to have a general idea of where you wish to be in the near future and slowly pave the way towards it, with some back up pathways in case you hit a snag or stumble unto something unforeseen. 

OH WOW THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS WHAT HAS HAPPENED O_O

I'm actually enjoying these serious chats. Such mature, much adult.

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