Water-Spirit-87 In reply to debbie07 [2008-08-06 06:25:04 +0000 UTC]

Aww! Your welcome! ^___^ You definately deserve it!

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to cheeryOs [2008-07-24 22:01:55 +0000 UTC]

AWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! THANK YOU!!! TAG!! Now YOU got hugged!

RULES:
1- You can hug the person who hugged you!
2- You -MUST- hug 6 other people, at least!
3- You should hug them in public! Paste it on their user page!
4- Random hugs are perfectly okay! (and sweet)
5- You should most definitely get started hugging right away!

Send This To All Your Friends, And Me If I Am 1.
If You Get 7 Back You Are Loved!

1-3 you're a bad friend
4-6 you're an ok friend
7-9 you're a good friend
10-& Up you're a great friend

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to PaperTears [2008-07-15 06:31:19 +0000 UTC]

AWWWW! THANK YOU!!

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PaperTears In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-07-20 22:36:57 +0000 UTC]

YOU'RE WELCOME!

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to Snowbellan [2008-07-06 04:28:17 +0000 UTC]

aww! np! ^__^

btw have you seen the latest ATLA trailers? For Aang and Katara?

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Zebraman690 In reply to locomocoyum [2008-07-06 04:32:16 +0000 UTC]

FREAK!!!!

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locomocoyum In reply to Zebraman690 [2008-07-06 11:11:01 +0000 UTC]

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locomocoyum In reply to Zebraman690 [2008-07-06 04:42:39 +0000 UTC]

?

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to zar33n [2008-07-06 04:40:51 +0000 UTC]

your welcome! ^__^

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to debbie07 [2008-07-06 04:30:04 +0000 UTC]

I'm going to work on it right now lol.. i just saw it today. I need to start visiting my DA page more lol

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debbie07 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-07-06 04:30:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah!! I think so... Jejejje

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to debbie07 [2008-07-06 05:08:01 +0000 UTC]

awww! I'm sorry! I've been busy working on more projects than I can handle and that's whats throwing me off. Before I used to be on everyday lol. But once I'm done w/ my projects I'll be on more frequently.

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debbie07 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-07-06 05:24:51 +0000 UTC]

It's ok. Don't worry. We all have things to do.

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to cheeryOs [2008-06-22 22:26:04 +0000 UTC]

NP! ^_____^ I'm glad you decided to post it cuz it looks great! Let the unlimited praises BEGIN!

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cheeryOs In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-06-22 22:39:06 +0000 UTC]

haha awww thanks :3

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to cheeryOs [2008-06-23 23:47:27 +0000 UTC]

hehe np! :3

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-06-24 23:55:39 +0000 UTC]

Haha! Yes, if he becomes a douche and doesn't save Toph, he's gonna have to worry about more than just Ozai: Rabid Pissed Off Fangirls! lol But then again, In the swamp episode when Aang first sees Toph and asks that swampbender about it he says "the swamp shows people we've lost" and since Aang hadn't met Toph at that time and it was someone whom he was going to meet..could it be that Toph might die in the end? You know as a war hero? I really truly hope not.

EXACTLY! There have been so many moments where "blushing" was portrayed as something MORE than just an affectionate emotion. We see it in other shows all the time!

I actually do have a few theories on Aunt Wu's predictions. My main one being that when Aunt Wu says to Aang that he can "reshape his destiny", what the audience (and Aang) didn't realize is that he already HAS reshaped his destiny. When Aang was confronted with his true identity as the Avatar and became aware of his destiney, he chose to reject it and run away from his duties because he didn't want to "let go" of Gyatso therefore inadvertantly causing the death of the only home he's ever known. He CHOSE to leave when he knew what was expected of him and the situations that followed caused him to wake up 100 years later in Katara's arms. What I'm trying to say is that if Aang HADN'T chosen to leave the Southern Air Temple after fully being aware of his destiney, then the war would've ended 100 years ago and he would've never met Katara. Because of him, millions of people died and his destiny still didn't CHANGE it was just RESHAPED. He still has to master all 4 elements and gain control of the Avatar State. But because he chose to run away 100 years ago, he was able to to meet Katara. Aunt Wu said "Follow your heart and you will BE with the one you love", he's BEEN with Katara since Day 1. So since he already reshaped his destiny in a drastic way, he can't manipulate it anymore. Also, Aunt Wu didn't see love in his future at first, but she saw Katara's entire love life all the way up to her great grandkids so that's another indication that Aang is NOT going to end up with Katara.

Whew! That was LONG! Now I know how you feel typing in these tiny narrow boxes loll. I'm sorry for the late reply but I've been busy working on my fanfic projects and preparing for summer classes so.. I haven't been able to go on DA everyday like used to .

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CQueenC17 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-06-26 12:50:13 +0000 UTC]

Lol, yeah Aang will have to fear the wrath of pissed off fangirls if he not only again chooses to be selfish and refuses to let go of Katara and if he doesn't save Toph. I really hope Toph doesn't die and she dies because of Aang's mistake.

That is true. We have so many instances when characters blushed for different reasons other than romance, but sudddenly one or two moments of blushing are taken as evidence for romance? Doesn't make sense to me.

Also, I agree with on your Aunt Wu prediction theory. If Aang is suppose to be with Katara, then Aunt Wu shouldn't have said, "I'm sorry but I didn't see anything your love life", while she went into full detail about Katara's future. I have a theory concerning the prediction as well. Kataangers and anti-Zutarians argue that Aunt Wu couldn't have meant that Katara will marry Zuko because Katara will marry a powerful bender and he is not a powerful bender. However, they say this, they often mention or compare Zuko to Azula.

To me, of course Zuko is seen as being an average Firebender if compared to Azula, because Azula is a fire prodigy. Also, just because her fire is blue and she can bend lightning doesn't mean she is really powerful. Well, she is, but it's more of the case you have to have no inner or emotional turmoil and have to be at a complete state of peace of mind. Which means for Azula she is calm and is at peace with herself and her actions (which suggest to me she is a sociopath) While as for Zuko, he was filled with lots of turmoil during Seasons 1 and 2, and half of Season 3, meaning he probably wasn't at his full potential.

Also, powerful doesn't always have to mean being physically strong. Powerful can be used to describe a figure with lots of political influence. And who's more politically influential in the Avatar world than a Fire Lord?

Finally, if Aunt Wu, meant that Katara was going to marry the Avatar, wouldn't she have said "the most powerful bender" since the Avatar is the master of all four elements? (No, Avatard can deny this fact, Katara mentions it in the AtLA intro)

It's okay, you have a life just like I do, so we can't always be on DA. It's understandable. Btw, I'll be gone for two days (I'm heading down to Virginia to check out my college), both Friday and Saturday, be returning Sunday. So, farewell dear friend and talk to you soon.

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-06-27 02:31:35 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree! Zuko has ALWAYS questioned right and wrong since he was a CHILD, whereas Azula never had that problem. She embraced her family lineage and success while Zuko believed in justice and truth which is why he was so emotionally unstable for the first 2 and half seasons. Also, it is important to note that Azula was mostly motivated by jealousy and neglect to do the things that she does. She picked on Zuko and tormented him because she desperately wanted attention from her mother, just like how Zuko wanted attention from his father. But the difference is that Azula never had a concience so she wasn't afraid to go to deceitful means to get what she wanted. This does not make Zuko weak, in fact it makes him a VERY strong character both physcially and mentally. By saying Azula is a better bender, you are inadvertantly supporting her methods of achieving such status: which is wrong.

Exactly! One thing to note is that Aunt Wu is NEVER direct with her predictions. She is usually very vague and when her predictions finally DO come true, you realize that she was right. For instance, when Sokka told the village not to depend on Aunt Wu's predictions for their daily lifestyle at the end of the episode and one of the villager says "well technically Aunt Wu was right. She predicted that the village would NOT be destroyed by the valcano and it wasn't!", in a series of twisted events she was right in the end. So, one way or another she will be right about Katara's lovelife and who she's going to marry *coughcoughZukocoughcough* lol.

That was one of the FIRST things I realized when I watched this episode for the first time. If Aang was going to be Katara's "soulmate" then wouldn't she have said MOST powerful or have given a reaction to Katara's future spouse like she did with Aang? She had such a dramatic reaction when predicting Aang's future, if Katara were to marry Aang, wouldn't she have given a similar reaction? Because afterall, she's going to the marry the almighty "Avatar". But no. She said Katara's future in a calm careless voice lol. So in the end the supposed "Kataang" episode turned out to be ANTI-Kataang lol.

Thank you so much for understanding. I felt so bad that I couldn't reply immediately like I wanted, but we have to take care of our lives outside of DA too right? hehe. Kool! I hope you have fun visiting your college! Are you going to the Orientation where they give you the campus tour and everything? Because I had to go to that a couple years prior. It's fun as long as the weather is tolerable lol. It was BLAZING hot when I had my campus tour lol. Well I had a lot of fun spazzing with you about ATLA! I hope to talk to you soon after you come from your college visit! ^______^ Take care dear friend!

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CQueenC17 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-06-27 03:25:54 +0000 UTC]

Wow, while I agree with you on Azula, at the same time, I never thought that her motivation for her deeds were because of jealousy, but it does make sense. I also thought that her need for perfection comes from her father because he was second-born and was probably seen as weak or was laways seen in Iroh's shadow and thus instilled his need for perfection into Azula because she was second born as well. And truthfully, I think Azula is a little messed up in the head because I believe, favorite child of Ozai or not, there is NO WAY she could have just managed to be raised in the same household as Zuko and not have her own baggage as well.

That is so true! "The Fortuneteller" at first appears to be a Kataang-flavored episode when it is actually appears to be very ANTI-Kataang. Also, I don't care what anybody says, but Aunt Wu's predictions do come true, like before the Gaang came to her village the guy that told them about her handed them an umbrella and it began to rain. Her predictions come true in ways one would not expect them to.

And thank you, I will have a lot of fun visiting the college. I'm not going to Orientation actually (it's in late August) but I am doing a campus tour which will be a lot of fun because the campus is rumored to be very pretty. Anyway, I love spazzing and theorizing with you. Hope we can get back to theorizing and start bashing Nick for the Avatar schedule. Adios and peace!

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-06-27 19:39:00 +0000 UTC]

I didnt think of that at first either, but what led me to this conclusion was the following:

1) Both Azula and Zuko recieved love from the opposite parent while pining for the love of the other. So, Azula recieved "love" from Ozai but truly wanted her mother to love her as well, while Zuko recieved love from his mother but longed for his father to love him. Both children were neglected by one of their parents and since both of them were denied love from the parent they longed to please, this created jealousy in both parties.

2) Due to Zuko having a concience, he didn't act ruefully to Azula and simply resorted to intense competition with her. Whereas Azula, who did not have the trouble of listening to her concience, used underhanded ways to shine in front of both her mother and father.

3) I also feel that Ursa and Ozai's favoritism towards their children displayed their own troubles in their marriage. Although it can be agreed that there was once a time when Ozai loved both his wife and children, his thirst for power and to outshine his brother caused a rift in his marriage. The very fact that they chose to side with the child most like themselves (Ursa=Zuko, Ozai=Azula) shows that both husband and wife did not share the same views.

4) Ozai was neglected by his father when he was a child and usually when a child is neglected at a very young age they tend to carry a certain grudge against the parent and pass this cycle of neglect onto the next generation, which is what I believe happend to Ozai and his family. He mistreated Zuko because he was the eldest and was automatically named heir to the throne (like Iroh) and sided with Azula because she was the firebending prodigy that would never see leadership in her future (like Ozai). He saw himself in Azula which is one of the reasons why he favored her above Zuko. But the irony here is that Ozai is most like Zuko and Azula is most like Iroh (when comparing Zuko Azula to Ozai Iroh).

Overall, it was an accumulation of various factors that caused Ozai and his family to seperate and bring tragedy to their household. Generations of misguidance and lack of morale caused the current situation in the Royal family to occur. Atleast, that's my opinion of it anyway lol.

Sorry this message is so long but I just HAD to tell someone about it lol. It's been swimming in my head for a few days now. Btw..if you don't mind me asking, which University did you get accepted to? Whichever University it is I'm sure it's a great one! Congratulations! I wish you all the best!

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CQueenC17 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-06-28 23:18:59 +0000 UTC]

Helllloooo! I'm back from vacation (I got home early. My family and I decided we wanted to go home immediately after we visited my college, which is Sweet Briar College, by the way).

And totally agree with all four of your theories. I was actually thinking the same thing and it's good to find someone else who thinks that the Fire Nation Royal Family went from loving to one another to being a tragic family unit. I believe Ozai and Ursa did love each other at one point of their marriage and I think one clue was when Ozai banished Ursa. Bare with me, anyway during the DoBS episode when Zuko verbally put his father in his place and after his father revealed that Ursa might still alive, Ozai said that now Zuko is a full-blown traitor and deserves to die for simply choosing to speak his mind againts his father. Yet for Ursa, he banished her instead putting her to death for killing his father and the Firelord. This suggests to me that although Ozai banished his own wife and shouldn't have done that in the first place, he spared her life, possibly out of the love he still has for her (however hidden it may be now).

Also, I have another theory concerning Azula. I think she was jealous of Zuko, not only because he received their mother's love while she didn't, is also because Zuko has more people who love him unconditionally. He has Iroh, (which would explain why Azula would always lash out at him), Ursa and Mai (putting my dislike of Maiko aside, Mai did love Zuko, he just didn't love her. Cared for her, yes, loved her, no). I think we see this aspect of her jealousy at the end of the Boiling Rock, after Mai said her infamous "miscalculated" quote, Azula lashed out with. Then after Ty Lee attacked her and ordered to her and Mai thrown in prison, I think she was angry and jealous that not only does Zuko have people who love for himself, he is able to inspire postive feelings within others who will inspire those same feelings within others (i.e. Mai and Ty Lee).

It's okay, I understand. I know what's it like to have an idea in your head and you just HAVE to tell it to someone. I hopeyou can forgive me for my wacky theory .

Also, p.s., some guy left a response at your journal basically calling Zutarians idiots for disliking Sozin's Comet. Normally, I would take care of it, but I'm controlling my anger.

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-07-02 11:32:45 +0000 UTC]

WELCOME BACK!! I missed spazzing with you! ^___^ How was the campus tour? Did you have fun? Was the campus as beautiful as it is said to be? I don't know too much about Sweet Briar College but it sounds like a great place! ^____^

I completely agree with your Zuko and Azula analysis! I also felt that Azula's immediate outrage at Mai was not necessarily directed at Mai but mostly at the fact that even after Zuko's apparant "betrayal" to his country and his temporary abdication of his title, people STILL care for him and are willing to help him despite his "mistakes". Azula dedicates herself to her country (albeit her intentions might not exactly be "pure-hearted" lol) and prides herself on being the embodiment of success in her father's eyes yet cannot instill the trust and love that her brother is capable of. I have a feeling she views it as unfair because she is technically adhereing to all the expectations that her country has of a Royal and yet she cannot find the simple satisfaction of sincere friendship. It's quite tragic.

I was thinking about the upcoming episodes this morning and I realized the possible outcomes of the future episodes.

1) Southern Raiders is supposed to be the episode where Zuko and Katara rekindle their bond and have the deeply anticipated "talk". Well I feel that in this episode Katara and Zuko finally discuss about what happend in CoD and both express their feelings towards that situation and why they did what they did.

2) In Ember Island Players, the actors will obviously exaggerate about what happend in the caves between Zuko and Katara which will force them to tell the Gaang about what REALLY happend in Ba Sing Se. I personally think that there was a lot more that happend between them in those caves than they let us on to believe because everytime they went back to the Zutara cave scenes in CoD, Zuko and got Katara got physically and emotionally closer and closer.

3) Aang will find out in EIP that Katara almost used the Spirit Water on Zuko and will choose to confess his feelings for Katara in fear of losing her. This is where Katara pulls back from the kiss and apologetically rejects Aang, which will cause Aang to be devestated and run away to either the mansion or somewhere nearby. Katara tells Zuko what happend (either voluntarily or coaxed into submission by Zuko) and Zuko confronts Aang and gives him the famous pep talk from the trailer. I also think that Aang will be highly suspicious of Zuko and Katara's relationship and will show some sort of animosity and jealousy to Zuko.

4) As we can see in the trailer, Aang isn't with the rest of Gaang during the better part of the finale so I think he leaves to defeat the Fire Lord on his own (or take care of some responsibility alone) because he needs to get over his hurt feelings towards Katara's rejection. It's going to take Aang some time to get over her and learn to let her go and I think it is during the finale when he manages to do that. After the war Aang realizes that Zuko and Katara really are perfect for eachother and comes to terms with his feelinngs for her.

Well that's my extremely shortened predictions lol. I know they're not very thorough but I didn't want to make this message longer than it already is lol. Btw.. have you seen the latest trailer for ATLA? It gives a sneak peek of future episodes. Check it out and tell me what you think . [link]

I know! I really wanted to bash that asshole to the ground but I didn't want a long chain of bullshit from him so I just hid the comment instead. Besides, it doesn't matter how much evidence we show them, Kataangers will always be snobby arrogant idiots forever known as the ship that watched this amazing show with their asses blindfolded -__-;;. But thank you for your enthusiasm to defend our ship! After the finale airs we'll see who has the last laugh.

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CQueenC17 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-07-02 12:28:39 +0000 UTC]

Yay! You replied! Yes, the campus is quite beautiful and the tour guide was really nice. Sweet Briar is an all women's college (at first I wasn't too happy with this fact, but I'm okay now), liberal arts and their mascot is the vixen (gotta love that).

And you are right, it is quite tragic for Azula. She really doesn't have anyone who really cares for her. Only has people who adore her for being a success to the Fire Nation, which is not real love at all. Also, I totally agree with you on the predictions on the new episodes. I have a feeling Aang will disappear because he is hurt by Katara's rejection and of course, he is going to act selfish and it might take Zuko's pep talk and God forbid, Toph getting her face stolen by Koh or almost/completely losing her life to get his head out of his ass and think of the world first. Btw, did you see the episode titles for the Season Finale? If you didn't, look it at here [link] (notice there is NO title called Dark Side of the Moon?)

Yes, I did see the trailer and I have at least watched it numerous times yesterday and probably some more today. All I have to say is, I now LOVE Bumi! Why? Because his presence in the trailer again show that Sozin's Comet is a badly-written fanfic (he wasn't mentioned AT ALL in the book). Speaking of which, I also have another theory concerning the legitimacy of thebook. In the book, it says that Ty Lee joins the Kyoshi Warriors. Now at first, it sounds like a perfect ending for Ty Lee, but if you remember from the The Beach episode, she said she has six sisters who exactly like her and the reason she joined the circus because she wanted to set herself apart and be seen as individual. So, wouldn't be somewhat out-of-character for her to join a group where all the members look alike? Anyway, just a theory of mine.

I understand how you feel. I hate it when the Kataangers and Maikoans say we should not get mad at the book and that adaptor guy, when we have all the reasons to be. First, half of our fandom and fellow Zutarians are chased away, second, he (the adaptor) tried to make his stupid fanfic look legit and totally endgame with a supposed interview that now only turns out to be a VERY old one and makes him look like an idiot who was trying to justify his arguments. And, last but not least, he wrote a VERY crappy finale that just defies all senses of logic and the sake of keeping the the characters true to their personalities. ("She's kissing me! She's finally kissing me!" Ugh, should Aang be wondering why Katara is kissing him?) I wonder what would happen if the book actually had a Zutara and Taang ending and the interview talked about the improbability of Kataang and Maiko. Would the Kataangers and Maikoans still say that everyone should just accept the book and not get mad?

Anyway, let us not worry about the idiots but just ready ourselves for the oncoming episodes and when the Kataangers find out they get a crappy book for their ship, we get the TV series finale!

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-07-03 10:38:34 +0000 UTC]

Haha! Aww! *hangs head in shame* Yes.. I know.. I'm terrible at replying to comments on time . I'm trying to get better at it though.. see? This time I replied only after a day! lol j/k.

Oooo! An all women's college! That sounds interesting! Haha! Having a vixen as a mascot could be useful if your college teams play against guys in any of their games lol . Btw.. if you don't mind me asking, what do you want to major in? I'm currently majoring in Pharmacology and if everything goes according to plan then I should be starting pharmacy school by next year.

My patience is seriously wearing thin for Aang because of his utter selfishness. Sadly, it IS going to take Zuko's pep talk and poor Toph's face (and/or life) to knock some sense into that bald little douchebag. However, I'm glad that Katara will FINALLY let her feelings be known and hopefully clear things up for us once and for all! Yes, I did see the titles for the new episodes and interestingly enough I did NOT see Dark Side of the Moon on the list..hmm. And I thought SC was supposed to the ATLA bible and endgame for Zutara *sarcasm* lol. I'm actually happy that the book ended in Kataang because if it had ended in Zutara I would've been highly suspicious (albeit in mild denial) and truly worried for the finale. It would've meant that we would've gotten the book ending and those undeserving Kataangers would've gotten their TV ending -__-;;. But luckily for us, Bryke saw (intended?) the attraction of Zutara and how it brings the entire story together and perhaps even the injustice that we Zutarians have suffered through from day one.

I absolutely agree with your SC theory. Exactly! For a woman who was in desperate search of individuality, why in the world would Ty Lee agree to be part of another matched set?? Everyone in this book is OOC. I don't know if you have the book, but if you don't, there's a part in the first chapter where Zuko's teaching Aang firebending and he says "Let me hear you roar like a tigerdillo!"...>___>. It even continues on to elaborate his frustrations on Aang and his inability to "roar". First of all, Zuko would NEVER waste time telling Aang to "roar" when the comet is about to appraoch in less than two weeks (or however long they have till comet comes) or spend long periods of time worrying about Aang's "roaring". I mean this is just one example as how LAME and falsified this book is. It loses its credibility in the first page!

I have no problem believing that if the book HADN'T ended in Kataang, Kataangers would never have pledged their loyalty to it. But I'm done worrying about thier prejuidces (honestly, how is a young man and young woman falling in love so "impossible"??), let's get ready for the ULTIMATE Zutara week that's ahead of us. WOOT! I'm so pumped up for it! Btw.. have you read GreenifyME's journal? [link] She's trying to get Zutarians to celebrate a full week of Zutara the week before July 14th as a last chance for us to stand strong and show our Zutara pride! It's going to be AWESOME!

Also, do you have any thoughts on Azula and why she sees her mother in the mirror? I've been wondering about that since the release of the S3 Finale trailer lol.

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CQueenC17 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-07-03 14:00:52 +0000 UTC]

Lol, I know you trying to reply on time and it's okay . Don't worry about it. What I'm majoring in? I'm majoring in International Affairs and (possibly) Studio Art (my father thinks I should minor in Art but I'm the one in college not him).

Aang is currently treading the border between my "an okay character" list and my shitlist right now. Honestly, he started losing my respect for him ever since "The Crossroads of Destiny" episode. Btw, I just realized something in "The Awakening" he said he couldn't open the seventh chakra because Azula attacked him and you can see on his face that it was not true (which means he was lying) and he was saying all this to Toph. So, wouldn't Toph know he was lying since she can tell if someone is lying or not (with the exception of Azula). I know Toph just said that Aang's explanation was "spiritual mumbo jumbo" or something along those lines. So, wouldn't it be great if Toph called out on Aang on lying to her and the rest of the Gaang in one of future episodes? Just a thought.

I'm glad the book didn't end with Zutara, because the adaptor probably would have made it crappy beyond reason and would have meant that the TV series finale ends in Kataang. Kataangers get the awesome TV finale, we get a crappy book. That is something that would make me scream.

I actually don't own the book (thank god. I would have spent $5 that could have been spent elsewhere and I would have burnt it or destroyed it somehow and I don't need my family questioning my sanity anymore than they already have ). But I did read all the events of the SC book online *eye twitches*. I do remember the first part where Zuko is telling Aang to roar like a tigerdillo. I thought that scene was lame, showed just how "credible" the book is (very little). And I was thinking the same thing too, that Zuko would not spend the little precious time they have until the comet comes just to teach Aang animal sounds (and honestly, a TIGERDILLO? The adaptor couldn't be even creative enough to come with a decent animal hybrid?). Which, to me, shows that the guy didn't watch enough Avatar episodes and just wrote what he wanted, INCLUDING making the charcters OOC as possible. What did you think about the part where Katara saves Zuko and says "Thank you," and sounding so...blasé about it?

I didn't read Greenifyme's journal, but I intend to get to it. As for Azula, I really don't a clue, but I think it's either she quite insane at this point and we (finally) get to see some of the emotional turmoil she's been carrying since she was young and her mother disappeared (I thinks she was confused and saddened by Ursa's disappearance like Zuko, but she always hidden these emotions) or maybe...Ursa visits her and then Azula goes insane? I'm not really sure, but I was just as crious as you when I saw that scene in the trailer. What are your thoughts on it?

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-07-07 08:29:55 +0000 UTC]

That's awesome! If you don't mind me asking though.. what do careers in International Affairs and Studio Art entail? As in, what do they do? I apologize for my lack of knowledge in these fields but I was just curious. They sound like great careers, that's why I wanted to know. ^____^

Pssh! Aang made my shitlist way back in The Guru episode. I seriously wanted to THROTTLE him in that episode! My friend once mentioned that during the part where Guru Pathik is insisting for Aang to let Katara go there's a scene where Aang gets a vision of Katara being captured by Azula and Katara cries "Let me go!". So perhaps that was a foreshadowing of the upcoming episodes where Katara (and possibly the Gaang) finds out the truth behind his locked chakra and why he can't open it? But I know for certain that Katara wouldn't be too happy to know that Aang is willing to sacrifice the lives of millions of people just for her. The only reason she even joined him on this journey was because it gave her a chance to do something about the war instead of sitting in her little hut moping about how her village and family is suffering. She joined to SAVE people and if she ever found out that Aang is jepordizing that, she is going to be extremely disappointed with him. Even Kataangers have to open their eyes and admit to that.

Omg! I never even realized that for some reason. You have a very detail-oriented mind my friend! ^___^ I think Toph did know that he was lying but I think she chose not to press the subject because clearly it was something he didn't feel like sharing with everyone and she's got the maturity and understanding to to not force something out of someone (unlike Aang). But it would be completely awesome if Toph called out on Aang, especially if he's being a douche about Zuko and Katara and what happend in the caves.

Part of me is glad that I bought the book because it gave me the opportunity to see all these "spoilers" with my own eyes as well as find clues and hints to the validity (or lack thereof) of this book. But the other part of me feels the same as you do, that I could've spent that $5 (plus S&H T___T) on some nice earrings at Amuse of even a Big Mac and McDonald's than this piece of crap.

I agree with your theory about Azula. I too feel that she has bottled up her emotions regarding her mother and losing her best friends, her brother, and soon being betrayed by her own father. Ozai conveniently made Azula Fire Lord right before the Avatar is supposed to knock on his door and defeat him. Azula is not stupid enough to believe that this decision was made without any ulterior motives, so I feel that this is also a contributing factor to her insanity. Since she was a child she prided herself on being her father's favorite and trusted his "love" for her, but to find out that the one person whom she thought she could trust is ready to let her die just to save himself must also take a toll on her sanity. It's as if everyone she's ever trusted is slowly betraying her. She's truly alone.

Btw.. have you seen the new trailers on Nick? The one for Katara and Aang? Aang: [link] Katara: [link] Check it out and tell me what you think! ^____^ It SEEMS like Kataang but you and I both know that it's NOT.

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CQueenC17 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-07-07 12:52:03 +0000 UTC]

Possible careers in International Affairs? You can be a diplomat (you get to take political courses and cultural courses in order to understand the politics and culture of other countries), a lawyer for immigrant rights or international policies (you can alo take law courses as well. Also, my father knows someone who has a son that is a lawyer who is involved international affairs. I forget what exactly he does), work overseas for a foreign business company, work as a interpreter or translator. As for art, you can be an artist, designer, design adverstisements for companies, illustrator, cosmetologist, sculptor, photographer, etc.

Oh yeah, I actually meant to say the Guru episode is where I lost my respect for Aang, not Crossroads of Destiny (I always manage to get these two mixed up). I actually did not notice that, but now that I watched the episode again and heard that, I agree it is foreshadowing. And I agree with you about Katara. She agreed to go with Aang because, with her help, Aang can save the world that has been embroiled in war for so long and bring the peace she always hoped for. Many times, she made sacrifices because she cares more about others' need and Aang's mission to save the world. In the Bato of the Water Tribe episode, she and Sokka chose not to go with their father because it was more important to help Aang, despite the possibility that father could get captured or killed and they will never get to see him again.

That would make me very happy if Toph of all people, gives Aang a verbal lashing to straighten him out. Yet, I believe, most likely, her face getting taken by Koh, might have to snap Aang out of it.

Actually, when you think about it, about each and every member of the Gaang made some type of sacrifice to help Aang. Sokka and Katara left their village, Toph left her parents (despite being overbearing parents, she does love them), Zuko left his princely status and a country that has suffered through imperialistic propoganda and brainwashing and believes him to be a traitor. Kataangers talk about it is unfair for Aang not to have Katara because it would break his heart. In my opinion, I think it is unfair that Zuko, Katara, Sokka, Toph, Yue (who sacrificed her life to become the moon and help her people) and many others contributed in the effort to end the war with their own sacrifices, but it's okay for Aang to escape this lesson and theme all because the creators (if they choose to end the show in Kataang) and audience feel as though he suffered enough and "deserves" the girl, just because he has an obssesive crush on her?

Well, that is a plus to have the book. You can see the "spoilers" with your own eyes, but $5 could have been used to buy a lot of things that are worth more than that crappy fanfic.

In a way, I kinda feel bad for Azula because despite being her best efforts to be her father's favorite and the "darling" of the Fire Nation, she is truly alone. When I think about it, what Azula lost, Zuko gained. Azula lost her friendship with Ty Lee and Mai, Zuko gained friendship with the Gaang. Zuko lost his mother and his father's "love" and respect, he gained a parent figure in Iroh, while Azula lost her mother and soon her father's "love" because of his selfishness and greed. Zuko found his peace of mind, Azula is losing her mind.

I did see the trailers when ShirtlessZuko posted the links in her journal. I didn't believe for a second that Kataang could be endgame. I thought the trailers were basically Nick mindfucking the fandom, because I noticed they only showed the DoBS kiss (and played it backwards, I believe) and not the kiss from the NYCC trailer (the one with Katara pulling back). Also, I remembered the fact that voice actors are paid (sometimes) to say things for commericals pertaining to the show in order to narrate or play with the audience. Same case with this commerical in order to make it look like Kataang will be the prevailing ship.. I'm glad they didn't show a Zutara commercial, because then that will be suspicious.

Btw, with all these commercials and episode information coming out, the Sozin's Comet comic is looking very invalid and the interview is proven to be very old. Anyway, I was wondering, why did the adaptor guy used an old interview? What do you think?

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-07-10 22:57:05 +0000 UTC]

Wow that sounds like an amazing career! Very intricate, complex, and fast-paced! You are extremely intelligent so I am certain that you will successfully kick ass in this career! What I like about International Affairs (now that I know more about it lol) is that it brings awareness to the current political situations at hand, thus broadening your horizons. Thank you for educating me about these careers ^__^. I think you've chosen well and you will definitely go far.

Hehe it's okay, at times I get The Guru episode confused with the CoD episode as well. Probably because both episodes were dealing with the same situation, The Guru being Part 1 of the Season 2 Finale and CoD part 2. You are absolutely right! EVERYONE in the Gaang has had to sacrifice something in their lives to help Aang end the war so it's only fair for Aang to contribute to it as well. Also, ending the show in Zutara would tie the show together. What better way to show that peace has finally reigned over the four nations than the Fire Nation (the very country that STARTED the war) and Water Tribe becoming allies through marriage between Zuko and Katara? In fact, the Prince of the Fire Nation and the Water Tribe "peasant" bonding in a union of marriage will show that the Fire Nation (well at least the Royal Family) is ready to move past the destruction and create an era of placidity. Katara's ability to instill hope in others (as well as heal) and Zuko's ability to protect his people will create the perfect King and Queen for the newly reformed Fire Nation. Whereas Kataang wouldn't help the situation at all. I mean Katara and Aang have been traveling together since the very first episode, how would their union change anything after the war? It would be just like it was when they first met: no change, no chemistry.

I completely agree. Hmm.. Sounds like Karma lol. Azula is slowly losing everything she was confident would always be with her.. Sounds like Kataangers don’t you think . And Zuko is gaining everything towards the end, when it really counts, sounds like Zutara . Speaking of which, I just watched Avid’s latest ZEFID video about Nightmares and Daydreams and how they connect to Zuko and Aang’s destinies and during a particular part in her video she mentions how Zuko has finally made the right decision of joining the Gaang and therefore abolishing any chances of his nightmare coming true. The reason I’m mentioning this is because I have a feeling that the presence of Ursa being re-introduced into the show as that “nightmare” for Azula. A faint reminder of her destiny if she continues to choose the wrong path and just how Zuko initially rejected the premonitions of his nightmare, I have a feeling Azula will reject the warnings in her “nightmare” as well. Also, in The Beach episode, we got to see a completely different side to Azula; a more endearing less pretentious side to her that we've never seen before. Clearly, it was to show that deep down she's just a normal teenager like everyone else and has socially awkward moments and trouble talking to boys; I think we were shown this for a reason. This gives us a more human approach to Azula and makes the possibility of her realizing her mistakes more plausible. I’m not sure if I’m making sense but it’s just something I realized because in all 3 character’s nightmares they either face their biggest fears or something they have been struggling with for years (i.e. For Zuko it was joining the Avatar; Aang letting go of Katara). So, perhaps the appearance of Ursa towards the finale of the series is a chance for Azula to finally make the RIGHT decision and realize the cruelty of her father?

When I first saw the trailer my heart jumped for a split second at the possibility of Kataang really happening, but then I listened to what Katara said in the trailer and immediately calmed down lol. I believe she says something along the lines of “I never thought that we would be this close”. EXACTLY! She NEVER thought that Aang would care for her that way. She has always assumed that they were best friends and THAT’S IT. Nothing more. And it’s rather pathetic how they had to use the DOBS clip BACKWARDS to get their “ominous” message across >___>. I would wonder why they didn’t use the EIP clip but that would completely ruin the ending for that episode which isn’t supposed to air till Friday the 18th. Nice try Nick, but we Zutarians aren’t that stupid. There’s a reason Bryke calls us “assionate and persistent” lol.

Speaking of Bryke, I forgot to mention in my previous comment about my thoughts on the SC interview. So here it is ! I personally think that the interview is a “fake” OR that it is not completely real. The reasons for that is presented in the following:

1) The very first question addresses Zutara and why it DIDN’T happen. And what was “Bryke’s” response? “Sorry to disappoint the ‘Zutara’ fans out there, but we never intended for Zuko and Katara to get together.” Bryke would NEVER tell one of their fans (especially a CHILD) that they were stupid for believing in Zutara. Even if it wasn’t intended or whatnot, why in the world would they insult HALF their demographic just because they believed in the “wrong ship”? These fans have given them tremendous business by buying their products and spending the money to go visit them at Comic Cons across the nation! They would be committing business suicide if they insulted the very people that helped bring them success.

2) Many of their interpretations for various characters are kind of ..off. For instance, when the interviewer asks why Sokka loses his boomerang to save Toph Mike says “These are just two ordinary objects, but over the course of the series Sokka (and the audience) have formed an emotional connection to them. So when he loses them in order to save Toph, it really feels like a sacrifice.” This completely contradicts the ending of SC book as well as the supposed “ending” for the show if the previous response was real. True, they do believe in sacrifice for the greater good, which is why Aang has to sacrifice his attachment to Katara, but if the series ended in Kataang then their idea of sacrifice completely contradicts the theme of the show. I personally feel that the “adaptor” for this book twisted their words to fit his pathetic ending for his book. So he merely altered the interview to his own liking, just like he ALTERED the actual ending for the show.

Even if there was a slim chance that this interview is real and is just outdated, then he clearly used it to justify his desired ending for the show. Kind of like saying “well THIS is how it should’ve been”. In any case, we are CERTAIN that this book is not real and has never been real.

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CQueenC17 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-07-11 00:58:01 +0000 UTC]

Yes, International Affairs is an amzaing career and I do like the aspect of understanding current political situations and learning about different cultures the most. You welcome, and pharmacology sounds interesting too and thank you for the compliment. .

Exactly! Zutara would be a much better ending for the show and help bring the Four Nations together. What better way to bring peace than an interracial (or is international in the AtLA world?) marriage, especially between the country who instigated the War and another Nation who has suffered the most (besides the Air Nomads). Speaking of marriage, remember the episode, "The Headband"? Anyway, though the episode seems to be filled with Kataang hints, I found out some Zutara hints in there as well (or rather I heard through the grapevine). Anyway, remember when Sokka and Katara posed as Aang's parents? And Sokka called himself "Wang Fire"? Well, I heard from other Zutarians that Wang means "King". So Sokka was calling himself "King Fire" (or let's change it to Fire Lord) while being "married" to Katara. Foreshadowing, perhaps?

Lol, don't you made sense and I did watch the latest ZEFID episode (now, my most favorite video) and I definitely agree with you that Ursa may return to serve the purpose of showing Azula the possible consequences of her actions and her possible wrong decision and realize that her father is not what she believes him to be. I believe this may be so, because of the "The Beach" episode where we saw another side of her, and saw that maybe she was pining for her mother's love and attention and was angry that her "weak" and "worthless " brother got it. So, it would be perfect for Azula to have a nightmare about her mother, the "cause" of her emotional problems, warning her.

Yep, it a pathetic attempt by Nick to scare us Zutarians and make us think Kataang was endgame. :roll eyes: If they wanted to really have us nervous, then they SHOULDN'T use the friggin' DoBS kiss and play it backwards, but use a clip that DOESN't have Katara looking uncomfortable, pulling back or have Aang the only one intiating the kiss. Oh wait, they can't use a clip like that, because there aren't ANY clips that fit the requirement.

When I first read the interview, at first I was pissed, but then I found a LOT of things that were wrong with. I noticed the same things that you noticed and addressed in your essays and also some other things as well.

1. The fact that the guy doesn't even go into an explanation about what is Kataang and Zutara, which doesn't make sense. When you think about it, this book is addressed to 6-8 year olds who watch the show and probably have no idea about shipping, so it would be logical to add keynotes or something explain what Zutara and Kataang is. But no, this interview just talks about the two ships as though the kids are supposed to know what Bryke is talking about.

2. The whole "Dark Side of the Moon" title. When I read the interview, I thought: "Wait a minute, didn't I hear that this title was the old title for "The Puppetmaster"? Another thing that I found off about the interview.

3. One of the questions was: "There were several allusions to Katara being Zuko’s girlfriend throughout Season Three. Aside from Uncle Iroh, she seemed to be the first person to see the potential for good in Zuko. Was there ever a spark between the two? Was there ever a point at which you thought they would end up together"? Okay. first off, Katara and Zuko were NEVER boyfriend and girlfriend and hell, even as a Zutarian I will admit that. Two, the two didn't even have contact with another for half of Season Three, so where the hell is the guy is coming from? Sounds like to me, the guy was afraid his beloved Kataang wasn't happening and decided to add it in there and come up with this question to justify is crappy and pathetic ending.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts. Btw, did you hear about this [link] Apparently, another idiot decided to write another fanfic to please Kataangers and, this time, the Tokkaners. It's called Love Potion 8 . You can check out the summary at ShirtlessZuko's journal.

I don't know to find it sad or funny, but the Kataangers are taking this book seriously as well, just like Sozin's Comet and claiming it as a piece of canon evidence.

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-07-15 06:30:11 +0000 UTC]

Awww! Np!! Pharmacology is a fascinating career as well. When I first started college I was quite set on getting a medical degree and becoming a doctor, but soon found the affects of artificial ingredients (medication) on the human body more intriguing so I switched .

Really?? That is VERY interesting indeed . Although the idea of Sokka posing as Katara's "husband" is mildly disturbing, the foreshadowing behind this wonderful piece of evidence is what really matters. It ties in PERFECTLY with the Blue Spirit episode when Katara was wearing a crown conveniently ornamented with two dragons, which is a symbol for not only the Fire Nation but also Royalty. I mean the list of Zutara evidence goes on and on when Kataang has NOTHING to show for themselves (atleast nothing legitimate). Oh I definately agree about Avid's latest ZEFID video! Probably the best one yet!

Those were my thoughts precisely! I love The Beach episode for that reason (among others; i.e. shirtless Zuko lol) because it shows us a completely different side to Azula that we've never seen before. I truly feel that they did this to show us that she is capable of human emotions and that she's not as cruel as her father. This will be the gateway for her metamorphisis or at the very least, acceptance of truth.

Nick has been pressed for time lately, why? Because those greedy assholes took on more than they could handle and now one of the BEST shows to ever grace their juvinille channel is suffering. Not that I mind 6 consecutive days of new ATLA episodes, but this isn't how I thought it would end: Nick spewing all the episodes out as if it's worthless. They ruined the experience of watching new episodes to a certain extent. Everything feels rushed and that's not how I expected this network to treat it's #1 show. But atleast we have the fandome to make it all better lol .

EXACTLY!! I agree with all your arguments, particularly the one about Zuko and Katara being bf/gf. It has never been confirmed before the finale that they're bf/gf (thought they will be after the finale ). Only ONE person has ever mentioned them being a couple thus far and that's Jun. But even then, Zuko and Katara neither confirmed or denied it. So for this interviewer to insinuate such an argument in his question shows that A) He really doesn't know much about the show or B) He's a complete idiot that didn't understand a THING even if he watched the show. Whoever doctored that interview just rushed through the response making sure that they "crush" Zutarians hopes every where, which in turn completely gave away the invalidity of the interview. Speaking of which, if that man had really interviewed Bryke, wouldn’t Nickelodeon AND Bryke support the book and sell it on their webpage? The LEAST they would do is promote the book for the sake of the interview, but NO! They haven’t publicly acknowledged the book in any way so that automatically falsifies everything that is in this book. The reason so many people went in a frenzy was because of the release date of this book. I bet you anything if this book was released AFTER the finale, no one would’ve cared for it.

WOW! It's rather sad how Kataangers ditched the show and began supporting cheesy pathetic books like these just because they ended in their favored ship. Shows what sore losers they are . Speaking of this book, I thought Katara was already supposed to be in "love" with Aang >____>. Unless it's set BEFORE SC in which case it can't POSSIBLY be cannon info because we've already seen those episodes and nowhere is it indicated that she's in "love" with Aang. Oh well, I hope this fanfiction on fancy paper makes the Kataangers and Tokka fans happy because they're never going to see it on the show .

Btw have you seen the latest commercial?? The one where Zuko is all blooded up with Katara running to save him? OMG! I SPAZZED SOOO MUCH lol. One of the things that I immediately noticed is that it is directly related to when Azula was about to shoot down Mai in Boiling Rock. So far, Azula has shot down/attempted to shoot down three very significant people and two of them being Zuko’s potential love interests. If Maiko were really the endgame ship (*shudders at thought*) then Zuko would’ve gone back for Mai (especially after she saved his ass >__> and risked his life to save Mai, but he didn’t. In fact, he didn’t even THINK about Mai after he left her indicating that he had completely moved on with his life by that time. Even the situation was set up in a way where there was no way for Zuko to come back and save her even if he wanted to. But now as Azula shoots lightning at Katara he risks his life to save hers. If you look at the latest trailer, his wounds are pretty bad and there is a pool of blood near his heart. For anyone to take THAT kind of blow for another human being can only be done out of LOVE.

Also, it’s very interesting how when Azula shot Aang in Ba Sing Se the image of his falling down was reflected in her eyes and now when ZUKO takes the shot for Katara, the image of him going down is reflected in KATARA’S eyes. That’s a very significant use of symbolism. I believe that the reason Aang’s defeat was reflected in Azula’s eyes is because Aang is the one threat to the fire nation and the gateway for Azula’s triumph. Watching him fall to his “demise” is like the ultimate victory for her. It displayed the pure negativity of her character and what she’s capable of, whereas with Katara she saw the one person that she’s ever loved (besides her family and friends) fall trying to protect her. Both situations have an aura of “coldness” about it but in two very different perspectives. Also, just as Iroh had said in Bitter Work episode, lightning is a cold-blooded killer. One must detach all their emotions in order to produce it. So, considering the symbolic representation of lightning, I feel that it is very signficant that both exudes an aura of “coldness”: one of emotional detachment (Azula) and one of fear (Katara). And the fact that Azula is perceived to be a “cold-hearted” person and Katara to be “warm” person also plays an important role. I know it’s a rather simplistic interpretation of the symbolism presented in that scene but it’s 11:13pm right and I’m extremely sleep deprived =______=. So consider this my half-baked theory lol

Btw… have you ever seen the movie Six Degrees of Seperation or Stranger Than Fiction?

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CQueenC17 In reply to Water-Spirit-87 [2008-07-15 13:53:15 +0000 UTC]

Wow! That is very interesting that you switched, but what exactly do you want to in that field? I'm sorry I don't know much about Pharmacology, but what can you do with studying the effects of medicine on the human body?

Don't worry, you weren't the only one who was disturbed by the fact two siblings were pretending to be married to each other. And you are SO right! For all their claims of being a "canon ship", Kataangers don't really have that much evidence and basically use the same arguments that don't make sense. Besides the whole "Aang loves Katara so she must love him back" argument that ticks me off to no end, is Kataangers' excuse that pairings like Zutara don't happen and aren't realistic, when in fact there are SO MANY pairings that are similiar to Zutara (in shows and real life) and happened, it's ridiculous. I could name them all but then this response would be a VERY long one. Besides Pride and Prejudice, Beauty and the Beast (thank you Snowbellan for pointing that out), Romeo and Juliet, there's also Bulma and Vegeta from Dragonball Z, that every Dragonball Z fan would tell you about.

As for Azula, I feel like there's a 50/50 chance of her redeeming herself. I think she will have a moment of truth but then make the mistake like Zuko did in CoD , except the consequences of her actions will be more grave.

The Nick execs are definitely a bunch of greedy assholes that only care about the mindless dribble they broadcast, produce, and advertise (*growls* that damn Spongebob and iCarly) and mistreat the shows that bring them money and audiences that span beyond the targeted age group. It's a shame that Nick pushes their good shows to the side for their frickin' stupid ones like Spongebob (I'm sorry, I now have a new animosity for that yellow sponge ever since that godforsaken hiatus). Now I understand how the Danny Phantom fans felt along with the other fans of the dozens of good shows Nick mistreated all for Spongebob. And parents wonder why kids today have a short attention span.

I actually find it funny now that people were claiming and supporting the interview as legitimate evidence when Bryke didn't even acknowledge the book's existence. And I do agree with you that if this book was released after the finale, no one would have paid it any mind (well except the Kataangers and Maikoans ). The whole fandom went crazy because of the book's release date and the fact the adaptor had the nerve to claim the interview was "exclusive".

It is very sad that Kataangers are sinking to such a level to support books as their evidence of being canon when if they truly believe that their ship will happen, then they shouldn't support these books. Btw, I heard that the author of the new book put: "the first ORIGINAL Avatar story" which basically shows right there that the book is nothing more than a consolation of a fanfic. Let's hope the Kataangers, Maikoans and Tokka fans are happy enough that they won't get pissed during and after the finale. Hey, Bryke DID promise that everyone will be happy.

I did see the new commerical and I was spazzing and SO worried about Zuko but at the same time knew that Katara will save him and go apeshit on Azula. And I compeltely agree with you that if Maiko was meant to be a prevailing ship then Zuko would've risked his life to save Mai (since he, supposedly, is TOTALLY in love with her*sarcasm*) when she did the same thing for him, but instead he risked his life, letting a bolt of lighting hit his heart which Iroh specifically told him to not let that happen, for KATARA . Speaks volumes to me. And when it comes to Maiko, the only Maiko I'll support is Maikoh(Mai/Koh, the Face-Stealer). The PERFECT relationship for Mai.

That is actually a good theory and I never thought of that. It is symbolic to have actions reflected in eyes of a "cold-hearted" person and a "kind-hearted" person. First Azula with shooting down Aang in CoD and Katara with Azula shooting down Zuko in the finale. Btw, I noticed that in two of the finales, both Cod and Sozin's Comet(the TV finale), two of Katara's potential love interests are injured/almost-killed by Azula.

Six Degrees of Separation and Stranger Than Fiction? I heard about them, but never seen them. Why you ask?

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CQueenC17 In reply to CQueenC17 [2008-07-11 00:58:50 +0000 UTC]

I meant to say in the third paragraph that you *do* make sense.

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Water-Spirit-87 In reply to poopyhead1234 [2008-06-22 22:36:01 +0000 UTC]

Awww! np sweetie!

Btw.. I like you sig. It made me giggle

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