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thelittledagger In reply to NerysGhemor [2015-05-29 18:30:06 +0000 UTC]

I seem most drawn to the Catacombs of Oralius series for some reason.  Probably because it represents a whole Cardassia as it should have been.  I ferverently believe in their right to worship law that grants the right to worship whatever one chooses or to not worship at all.

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NerysGhemor In reply to thelittledagger [2015-06-05 20:07:37 +0000 UTC]

Glad you like it!

That said, their government is not one I think would work on Earth with humans, even though they make it work for them.  I wish it could work here but I know it would be a disaster.  The fact that clergy hold one of the two houses of the legislature makes it a half-theocracy, though they do have their own form of checks and balances between the secular and the religious.

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thelittledagger In reply to NerysGhemor [2015-06-12 18:23:44 +0000 UTC]

I can see that.  If such a government like that was set up on Earth, a half-theocracy, then I can see identical abuses of power before Akleen in either timeline.  I wish more Christians were moderately conservative like you are.  Unfortunately the evangelists seem to want to dominate all of Christianity.  I think I know now where you got the inspiration for the pre-Cataclysm government on Cardassia Prime.  People should not commit atrocities in the name of God because I suspect that would make God weep.  Church and State should always be separate though the more vocal extremists are lobbying for them to be combined.  Unfortunately this would plunge us back into the days of the Holy Roman Empire during the Middle Ages and a return of Inquisitions.  Now I think that the arguments between Evolution and Creationism are pretty much pointless and backwards.  Who's to say God didn't shape the universe in the way science describes rather than what the Bible says.  In fact I hold to the belief that God created the universe the way the scientists state and shaped all life including Humanity through evolution.

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NerysGhemor In reply to thelittledagger [2015-06-19 17:48:29 +0000 UTC]

I think that one of the major differences in Hebitian/Cardassian psychology that makes the reformed government workable for them is that they seem not to change or to defy society as easily--as in, they psychologically are less likely to do so.  This means that there is still a massive Oralian majority in their society and that the minority groups are smaller.  For them I think it is a breakthrough to realize that these minority groups should be recognized and afforded equal respect.  But the fact that there is this giant majority means that they don't have a pluralistic society in the same sense that we do, or at least that the variations tend to be less than they are IRL.  Humans, on the other hand, are a fractious, divisive bunch.  We quarrel and disagree very easily, and government for us IMO should focus solely on making sure we can have our disputes without setting the place on fire, if that makes sense.

I do not identify as an evangelical Christian.  I am Methodist, which is technically Protestant, but with strong leanings towards Eastern Orthodoxy, that have only increased as I get older.  And I agree with what you say about people who commit atrocities "in the name of God."  I have often suspected this is what the Commandment about "taking the Lord's name in vain" most addressed: blasphemy, and one of the worst forms of blasphemy IMO is defaming of God's character by ascribing our own selfishness and hatred to Him.

I see no reason for there to be argument about evolution and creation, and no reason why they cannot be one and the same without having to alter the science any.  The evolution that Inquisitor Osenal--an Oralian Guide--teaches at Yavenn Pretam University is scientifically rigorous.  Because he teaches at a religious rather than secular institution of higher education, meaning that he is teaching young adults who have chosen a faith-based curriculum, he uses the terminology the Oralians favor for evolution, which is Shaping.  As far as he is concerned, Oralius did it; Cardassians are favored because of their intellect with the ability to analyze some of how it happened, and the ability to do so is a gift that it is considered good to use.

There is even a museum dedicated to Cardassian evolution, on AU Cardassia, called the Catacombs of the Shaping...you would think it was a normal museum on first glance, but you'd start to notice that it is tended to by a religious order, that sees its duty as caring for the remains of the creatures that became Cardassians.  Rather than actually displaying the remains for visitors, they display replicas.  The actual fossils were given proper Oralian burians after being fully analyzed, any DNA available extracted, and fully holographically catalogued.  They did this because they don't want to assume at what stage the soul was first given--therefore it was better to show unnecessary respect than to not treat the remains with the respect due those of a person.

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