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triangl
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[2005-07-27 11:53:36 +0000 UTC]
"[sic]"
(United Kingdom)
# Statistics
Favourites: 24; Deviations: 45; Watchers: 11
Watching: 10; Pageviews: 6590; Comments Made: 723; Friends: 10
# Interests
Favorite movies: The Truman ShowFavorite bands / musical artists: Metallica
Favorite writers: Robert Jordan
Favorite games: Mario Tennis
Favorite gaming platform: Wii
Tools of the Trade: My worldview, the things I fear and hate, a pen sometimes, or my laptop.
Other Interests: Mathematics, Poetry, Fantasy Fiction, Music, Alcohol
# About me
Current Residence: London, UKFavourite genre of music: Metal
Favourite style of art: Literature - Poetry
Operating System: Windows XP
MP3 player of choice: Some huge Acer thing
Wallpaper of choice: Bowser
Skin of choice: My own
Favourite cartoon character: Morbo
Personal Quote: All good things must come to an end... bad things on the other hand, seem to have free reign
# Comments
Comments: 100
Might one suggest that a person who does not know the difference between the possessive "your" and the contraction "you're" - and who fails to put the apostrophe in making the word "that" when creating a possessive ("thats" [sic] vs. "that's"), is singularly unqualified to offer advanced critique on the English-language skills of another writer?
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sorry it took me so long to respond to your... constructive post.
one might indeed.
i honestly cant remember if i commented on your work or if you are referring to that of another.
if you truly believe i do not know the difference between those things then youre even more of an idiot than your pitiful attempt at flowery speech makes you out to be.
at any rate, let me pose a question to you.
say you had written a poem, or any literature, and it had a glaring spelling error, or horrific grammar problems, or even if it was clumsy and difficult to read. and presumably you want to make this literature as good as possible. now if someone who had poor grammar spotted one of these mistakes, and someone with impeccable grammar spotted an equal mistake, what would you do?
based on your post you'd hunt down the former and be very rude to him, yet thank the latter graciously, both with pathetic "technical" language about literary devices.
basically would you reject a good idea based on who it came from? i would hope not.
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No, because I would regard the "critic" as a hypocrite, as you are. Is that blunt enough for you?
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maybe but i still dont recall the origins of this? did i make a suggestion on a piece of yours? if not its none of your business, so kindly leave me alone. if i did, may i bluntly ask if i was right? as in did i point out a grammatical error? if so you should be grateful regardless of my own perceived grammar skills.
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I really don't recall where the comment was left. If you haven't learned how dA works yet, comment replies on a deviation show up on the deviation as well as in your message list. As for leaving you alone, you responded to me - hardly an invitation to leave you alone. Add general communication skills to the list of problems you have with credibility with critiquing written works.
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i believe i am allowed to defend myself whilst still wishing to be left alone
knocking my knowledge of dA seems a little silly though. i was more involved in dA in its previous incarnation, and havent really explored this one at all as yet.
but you are, sadly, correct in one thing. i've always been a mathemetician, a scientist, not an artsy type of guy. and lack of communication, and perhaps a certain eloquence, sort of goes with the territory.
look you dont even know me mate, so judge me on what ive written fine, but dont judge me on my punctuation
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Well, triangl, I'm a systems analyst myself, I do lots of programming, and yet I communicate. You choose to critique other's grammar and work, and worse yet, you have the following question in your standard signature: "Did I leave good honest critique? "
Someone who cannot punctuate is no more qualified to judge other's writings than someone who has not mastered calculus is qualified to judge the mathematical expression of, say, a new quantum theory. I hope that you, as a mathematician, would be rightfully scornful of someone who critiqued a new mathematical theory, but in that critique, the critic used, perhaps, a differential when said person "meant" to use an integral. The same applies in any communications endeavor, whether mathematical or language-based. Your punctuation is an important part of what you've written, just as a capital sigma is quite different from an integral sign.
You have a right to defend yourself; but I have a right to rebut your assumptions.
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i disagree entirely.
dis sentance meens exacly da same ting as da ova one
This sentence means exactly the same thing as the other one.
and i presume you have studied logic, and cannot dispute either claim. however the accidental use of a wrong sign in maths (take the integral - capital sigma scenario) it means something different. or if you forget to use a special character altogether, as i often do in writing, apostrophes for example, then mathematics becomes literally meaningless. whereas spelling they're without an apostrophe is recognisable as they are, even if it is incorrect.
plus my signature is simply referring to the validity of my suggestions, not my spelling.
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Try feeding the "dis" one into an English parser and see what you get. Similarly, although English-speakers can generally (although not always) parse badly misspelled words, this is an international system - in fact, the World Wide Web was invented at a physics institute in Switzerland.
Thus, I can dispute both claims, as - though I am a native English speaker - I am aware that other people on the World Wide Web are not. Your logic is keen, but your premises are faulty. It is like the classic trick of mathematics teachers which proves that 1=0: the trick being that so many variables are used that no one catches that the teacher has used a value of zero, hidden in a variable, in the denominator of one expression.
Finally, your signature can rationally be read as referring to your use of the English language, when your critique is fundamentally based on another person's use of the English language.
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well if it comes down to my signature here's my explanation
poetry, as far as i'm concerned, is an oral art form. a poet's use of the english language in its written form is, as far as i'm concerned, simply a tool. good critique to me would be critique of structure rhythm rhyme flow, not spelling. i do tend to correct others spelling errors. that is because i am aware that others, like yourself, would like to know when they have made a spelling error.
i suppose this view is born primarily of laziness.
You must be able to tell by now that I am entirely capable of proper grammar, and that I have a reasonably large vocabulary, and relatively high intelligence. I can capitalise and punctuate and spell till I'm blue in the face. The fact of the matter is I can't be bothered. Language is a tool. You wouldn't throw away a hammer that was chipped and dirty, you wouldn't even repair it, because it still bangs in the nails.
well so does poor language in this context.
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Psst. I totally Added your
band on myspace. Haha,
I just had THAT much free
time ^_^ Plus the songs
are wonderous.
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cool! thanks muchly.
also have you checked out my personal musical myspace?
*shameless plug*
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Haha. No I didn't actually, I just
knew about the band. But I will ^_^
thanks.
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thanks for putting me as a friend from the Canuk
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hey no problem i like your poetry! did my comments help? i usually dont listen to comments immediately, and wait til my next poem to put them into practise. hope i didnt sound to harh i really liked "Im Sorry" (cant remember if thats the actual title)
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Quite nice page, won't you mind if i add you to my friends list?
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of course you can add me to your friends! cant have enough friends!
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Begora, Laddie. Folks love you. Aye.
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Hi, Chris.
Thanks for stopping by the Slow Dog's Place. Feel free to come back again, for you are always welcome in the Land of the King.
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have you got a program that sends that message automatically?
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No, I do not. I am a subscriber and so those who visit my page show up on a list. I check this list from time to time and when I see a new name on it, I click over to that person's page and leave a hand typed message of thanks.
I cannot catch every name that goes by, but I try to get as many as I can, for it is indeed an honor when someone takes time to visit my page, the only one of its kind here at deviantART.
I do not believe in spamming. I do believe in showing appreciation to those who want to learn more about the King of Instruments, the Mighty Theatre Pipe Organ. Thank you for asking, my friend.
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just wondered, i decided to subscribe for a bit, mainly to get a banner for my band up there. we're trying to promote however we can now, and i think you were probably right about the nationality of deviants
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Subscriptions are a wonderful thing. You can not only promote the things you are interested in via graphics, etc., but you also get a chance to promote fellow deviants and interact with them more intimately. And the price is right concidering all that you get for your money.
Yes, dA covers all nationalities. This is a good thing. Note that if you climb aboard a rocket ship and orbit the earth, while looking down there are no national boundaries. Also note that if you get in an airplane and go up about 5000 feet, most signs of humanity get lost and all you see is green of summer or brown of winter.
Also, the Father on high who made us all does not discriminate race, creed, religion or sex. In His eyes, we are all brothers and sisters. I try to adhere to that philosophy myself, for the Father knows best.
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whoah there sailor! what i meant by that comment is that before i said that it would be pointless loads of americans knwoing our band name, as we have no plans to do gigs there, but now i realise that there are loads of people near me. i think it would be better if there were no nations, just areas of the world, much like the counties or states within our present nations. unfortunately the only way this is likely to happen is with some sort of empire situation, which i'm not happy with.
i would disagree about the father thing tho. my religious feelings wax and wane, but my spiritual feelings never do, funny that isnt it? i think if the God you believe in exists (and as far as i know the only religions who call god "father" are those that descend from Abraham) then he probably would discriminate creed at least. probably religion as well. the god i suspect is more likely to exist cannot see our bodies, or at least looks beyond them, and simply sees our souls, and looks for souls that have tried to do the right thing, and have been truly sorry for the bad things they have done. my current feeling towards religion is that it is more than likely to hold you back in god's eyes.
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Very well said, my friend. I am not exactly a religious man, for I feel that religion for religion's sake is a total crock of hooey. When we try to explain God in human terms, we either fall woefully short or turn Him into some kind of cult that become market fodder or political cleavage, no matter which of the nine billion names we humans call Him by.
As far as promoting your band goes, there exist many bands that never play live gigs but still sell truckloads of records because they have a strong presence on the internet. Times have changed. You no longer get discovered by talent scouts. Competition is too fierce. With computers now available reasonably cheap and able to run powerful recording software that is easy to use, anyone with a modicom of tenacity can make a great record just about any time and anywhere one chooses with whoever they like.
The trick is to have a record that folks want to hear, and to get it out there so they can. Go get 'em, Tiger!
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Mate, long time no talk! It's Tommy off F.P....remember me?
Not sure if you still go on, but I left ages ago, other things to do now, too many strangers, not like the old days no more. Used to be a group of people who were always there for a laugh, not anymore! Going downhill if you ask me, but more popular
Anyway, check out my work, I'm liking some of your stuff, just flicking through.
Talk sometime mate, I'll post some more.
All the best,
Tommy
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tommydabiz? or tommo_2000, or were you the same person! either way yeah of course hehe, ill check you out right away! in a non sexual way i mean...
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Sexual's good to be honest........
tommydabiz is the name mate, never heard of tommo_2000.
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yeah of course i remember mate! i never talked to tommo 2000 but i thought it might be you at the time
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Half the comments on your page are from Richard the other half from Hannah. Haha. Nice. Glad to see they like you.
Anyway, the reason I'm writing this comment is just that I'd like to thank you for the constant support and accurate, constructive, and above all helpful, criticism. It's greatly appreciated.
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never replied to this! well ben i'm here to help i'd been dabbling in writing this and that for ages before i first met you, and i presume you hadnt much then. i reckon your first couple of efforts were way better than mine, and all i can do is lend the little experience i have, to try and help the very talented joker you defeat the depressed and self loathing you!
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oh thanks! didnt catch your note there! it had been so long since someone noted me on my page!
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Hi, Chris.
Thanks for stopping by the Slow Dog's Place. Feel free to come back again, for you are always welcome in the Land of the King!
As to subs, the real advantage to having one is so that you can not only promote yourself and keep track of your visitors, but you can also promote others through features in your journal.
These days, buying subs over the internet is totally safe, and that is coming from a very paranoid guy. The pages you visit to purchase your sub are encrypted with 128bit strength. It would take a supercomputer many days to find out what you did, and by then, you will have moved on.
You are more likely to be struck dead by an asteroid than to have your data stolen through an online sub purchase at dA. Your bank account data is encrypted as well, so this information is not public. Now, eBay is another story, but we won't go there!
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no probs i cant remember how i got to your page, but i recognise your signature and its slowly coming back to me. something to do with organs, and ben and something or other. its half past midnight here! anyway i am a man of logic, in general, and i know all those things are probably true, i simply cannot trust it. i will open a paypal account and use it but i dont have to like it! also "encrypted with 128bit strength" might as well have been "smothered with rhubarb and custard". sorry if this sounds rude, i genuinely dont mean it to be but technobabble doesnt mean anything to me, and i once caught myself being reassured cos someone who knew more than me about a certain thing said it was safe and gave reasons, and i realised i had no basis for my sense of security which was subsequently prooved false! deep down i dont see that a sub on here is worth the cash to be honest!
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Hi, Chris.
No worries, it's all good. Yup. I am a Theatre Pipe Organist. That is what my pages on dA are about. And that is why I have a subscription. With subscriber features, I can place content that gets attention. I can make a difference. I can show and tell all those who pass my way the wonder of a bygone day. Theatre Organs are more than an interest for me. They are a way of life. One I believe should be preserved for future generations to enjoy.
Subscriptions let you take your area of interest, that which you are driven to do above all else that gives you great joy, and let you share with others usaing images and links. You can also promote the work of others that you find to your liking. You become more popular and your work gets seen by many more people as a result of these actions. This makes the community strong. Like any website, the more crosslinking, the better.
The features of a subscription seam worthless at first, until you think about all the new things you can do for yourself, your art, and the community. It is a small price to pay in order to enable that kind of power. And it does not take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Food for ponderage....
Peace..
Live long, and prosper.
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definitely agree with you, but worth is a relative term. my art is mostly text based, i can post links and images without a subscription, but even if i couldnt i dont need any more from deviant art than a place to host my art, and share it with other reasonably like minded individuals. i dont agree that a sub could help me do that, ive looked at the services page, the only thing that is remotely interesting is the adcast thing, but the only art group i belong to is my band, and thats the only thing i can think of that id like to advertise, but seeing as we haent released anything commercially, that sort of attention is not useful to me. also as this is a mainly american website, 100,000 americans knowing our bands name would be pretty useless to us as well
any other thoughts? all contributions to my paradigm are welcome
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The members of dA span the globe. I have friends in Brazil, Poland, Germany, Portugaul, Turkey, Scotland, England, Spain, France, Australia, and yes, a few in the good ol' USA. dA had over 1,000,000 members of which only 10% are American. And dA is a great springboard to help you on the way toward releasing commercial product, sub or not. I lurked at length before I subbed, but in the end, I am glad I did.
God bless, and happy playing.
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it certainly is! i think the whole answer to the question of life, the universe and everything thing is more ingrained on our... culture, than like anything. "42 is the answer" is used so often!
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hehe or if you believe the mice, it's ingrained in our brainwave patterns
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no we are not part of the computer, we're aliens from... argh i can never remember the name golgafrincham?
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yep, descended from telephone sanitisers and marketing executives!
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dont forget hairdressers. did you know there was an estate agent called hotblack desiato?!
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no way! that's insane! did he spend a year dead for tax reasons?
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hehe no sorry it was an estate agent company, either they named themself after his or the other way round, theres no way its a coincidence
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