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NestieBot [2018-04-22 18:57:55 +0000 UTC]

Love them Pretty Girls. :3  

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2strawberry4you In reply to NestieBot [2018-04-22 21:13:44 +0000 UTC]

ikr  

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NestieBot In reply to 2strawberry4you [2018-06-27 19:02:17 +0000 UTC]

Yes. :3

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emilybee [2018-04-22 11:01:55 +0000 UTC]

Well Teto is a red hair, but if you're looking for another pink haired Vocaloid, since Teto's also not a Vocaloid... There is Rana or Ia as wellas Uni. 

vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Vocalo…

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2strawberry4you In reply to emilybee [2018-04-22 13:51:59 +0000 UTC]

Tetos hair is a kinda hot pinkish red (in my opinion)
And i know she is not a vocaloid i put utau in the tags
I just like the idea of teto and luka singing together
But thank you for the feed back

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emilybee In reply to 2strawberry4you [2018-04-23 19:29:04 +0000 UTC]

Er... Funy enough Teto's far from the best UTAU, and UTAU is not as good sounding as Vocaloid... So technically, Teto and Luka don't sound as good as you think.

Its complicated, a lot of it has to weigh in Teto was created by seriously manipulating samples to sound entirely different to their default. 

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2strawberry4you In reply to emilybee [2018-04-23 20:14:15 +0000 UTC]

who is the best utau is all based on opinion  and i respect you don't think she is the best
i know my pictures or taste are not for everyone in the utau/vocaloid fanbase
and personally i like the robotic sound of teto and feel if it was teto's whisper voice bank and lukas v4 vioce bank it would sound nice
and hey even if they did not sound good together i'd just be happy to see my two favorite characters next to one another    

sorry for the small rant , its just everyone has a different opinion of whats good or bad its not set in stone 

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emilybee In reply to 2strawberry4you [2018-04-23 21:08:04 +0000 UTC]

The thing with UTAU is there are THOUSANDS of voicebanks, so there is going to be both many better and many worst then Teto.  But I look at this way... Miku isn't even the best Vocaloid, likewise, Teto isn't the best UTAU. They are both just the most popular of their respective software.  

I'm a vocaloid fan so not really much into UTAU.  Its a software that's too big to bother with for me, I have issues with focus and would rather just stick to the more focused Vocaloid software.  Dealing with 80+ Vocaloids is easily then 8,000+ UTAU.  

Afraid not, UTAU has issues with sounding too solid compared to Vocaloid, its a harder sound and is actually more complicated to get them to get a lot of the UTAU and Vocaloid to sing together well.  The Vocaloids tend to show up the UTAU a lot.  For example, Macne Nana is far better as a Vocaloid then her original Garagaband band was, its UTAU conversations, or her official 2S version.  The results are smoother, higher quality.  The soft vocal for Teto, I've heard it and its not that brilliant at all... Its actually, in my opinion, one of the worst voicebanks, it looses clarity too much.  I often say "Clarity is not the only sign of Quality" as the Vocaloid fans use it a lot as one... But... In the opposite direction, the crudeness of UTAU means it often fails as a full whisper voicebank.  

Saying that.... Luka v4x is a total mess of a release, and is not the best Vocaloid release so far.  Technically that would likely apply to Una, but that's because she has two larges range voicebanks and access to the large Internet Co XSY group.  Which means she can XSY with Gumi's 5 Megpoid V3 voicebanks and her 10 V4s, Lily V3's 2 voicebanks, Kokone, Cul, Gackpoid 3 V2's and 3 V4's, Ryuto's Gachapoid vocal and Chika.  She has a lot of options. In the end she ends up having a HQ result because she mixes Vocaloid voicebanks for XSY, then Luka's EVEC, which consists of just vowel sounds that adapt the default "Soft" and "Solid" voicebanks.  Its also why Luka's voicebank becomes highly robotic when using EVEC at times... None of this is opinion based of my own, there is a lot of weigh-in that's been done between fans on certain elements of each generation.  And all in all, the only ones I've found who stick by Luka as better then she is, tend to be those who are super bias towards her to the point she can do wrong.  By this I mean... When Luka V2 fell out of the product charts on Crypton's website for the first time... They panicked.  To which a lot of us scratched our heads and simply side "but she is in the top 10 most vocaloid vocaloids, not the bottom 10, so why are you panaicking for?".  Unlike all other Vocaloids, Luka has a very clear bias in favour of her that's really blind at times, so I find you can't argue too much about her.  Whereas with Miku, people seemt o more readily accept she is flawed and rush to confirm it, dittos the same with the Kagamines. Take it as you will.  

UTAU forte was always its customisation, its varity of voicebanks and its freeware status.  It has never been as good as Vocaloid, but honestly...  I'm not going to argue, neither Teto nor Luka is the best of their software and both have vocaloids who can outclass them.  I honestly see no problem, it doesn't stop you liking the duo, as I often say if you can love a voicebank despite its flaws, its a solid following you have.  I like Tonio, Big Al and Macne Nana... You figure out where I stand and why I say this.  Tonio is a beautiful singer when used currently, but his a poor Vocaloid.  Big Al is a poor singer, but a much better Vocaloid.  And Nana's my "Dark Horse".  I liked her ever since I heard he voice for Reason, as I didn't think much of the UTAU conversations.  

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2strawberry4you In reply to emilybee [2018-04-23 21:30:33 +0000 UTC]

listen , teto is MY favorite utau  i don't care if she is not the best out there. and as for luka v4 "I" like it. if used right its can sound almost human, ( in my opinion)  i do not make songs or content like that and please for the last time this is all MY OPINION , i'm not upset or mad that you don't like my drawing or do not agree but please keep the fact that others have different views in mind

listen i'm not here to debate on which vocaloid or utau is trash or the best i just wanna draw teto and luka because "I" like them. you can like a vocaloid / utau for many resons besides there voice bank 
for me teto was the very first utau/vocaloid i was introduced to and i love her design. i know about other vocaloid and utau but to be honest  they do not interest me as much as the ones i draw , but hey this is just me

again i respect your opinion and the fact we disagree is fine nothing to rant about

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emilybee In reply to 2strawberry4you [2018-04-23 22:38:29 +0000 UTC]

"Favourite" and "Best" are two different things, "favourite" is an opinion your entitled to, "best" is more fact-based as you have various bits of data you can analyse that are "facts" and can create things to weigh in pros and cons of each voicebank.  

Its not a problem at all and your taking it the wrong way.  

Luka V4x was made to should more like her provider so of course, but any vocaloid can sound like a human.  Luka V2 just found it harder because she was voice acted, its the same for Miku and the Kagamines who are voice acted also.  Theissue is the release of V4x Luka was a problem bag of both good and bad, ergo parts of it were solid and parts weren't.  EVEC, as I said wasn't, but the voicebanks were.  The English version was solider for the "straight" voice, but the "Soft" was a lazy copy and paste.  Speaking of which, Luka had "Soft" and "Soft_EVEC" as well as "Hard" and "HArd_EVEC", which was pointless as it was another copy and paste.  Facts just are that...Facts... You can't change them no matter what you want.  There are things about my favourite Vocaloids I would like to change but can't.  One cannot help what they are presented with as a product.  Its just the same as the Kagamine's Act1 voicebank was Low quality and they had to re-release it... Luka's company CRypton are mostly the problem here, not Luka herself.  They basically re-did her V3 vocal when V4 was made aware to the studios and they re-did Luka for V4 as this version.  The only bummer entirely is that Luka V4 doesn't sound like Luka V2 much at all at times and to even remotely make her sound like it you have to use a particular EVEC colour. Most other stuff is just an a mountain of minor issues that alone aren't a problem but together are. 

If you want faulty voicebanks, Tonio my favourite is a good example, as he sounds just like the provider... But is robotic as heck thanks to the vocaloid engines poor handling of deeper voices and a level of issues with the voicebank.  Don't get me wrong, acknowledgeing a flaw isn't wrong and honestly?  I'm not saying Luka is completely bad here, like all vocaloids she has her merits.  I think your being a little too offensive because I spoke about your favourties in a negative light... But this is a natural reaction.  Its fine, you like them and should do so no matter what anyone says.  ITs a touch love I've had to learn.  I'm a English vocaloid fan who witnesses Vocaloid2 myths being used against modern English vocaloids that haven't applied since 2010... And honestly... Your in a better boat then I am.  Your not constantly having to defend an entire version of Vocaloid from bias weaboo fans who don't understand that the engine for all languages is the same, ergo, all vocaloids can sound just as realistic as each other and so fourth... 

Never said anything about the drawing, I'm talking about the Vocaloid and UTAU only here, its hard to make UTAU and Vocaloids sound good enough together at times and their better when their with vocals of their own engine.  It has something to do with the respect software engines "noise" (too complicated to explain and not worth the time).  

Not stopping you drawing what you like or liking what your like... Your completely misunderstanding my intentions here.  

Well, "ranting" and "Discussion" aren't the same thing and neither of us as far as I'm aware is ranting.

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2strawberry4you In reply to emilybee [2018-04-24 00:57:41 +0000 UTC]

mostly i meant me ranting lol i get kinda heated when it comes to teto kinda how some girls get defensive of there idols or divas and what not i just wanted to stop the subject before i got riled up ( as you can tell lil to late)
don't know much about what voice banks and what not im just one of those people who likes the songs and sounds , i don't look too deeper into it 
when it comes to English i kinda prefer cyber diva but i listen to kinda techno so it fits good
then again there is the artist "ctrl ult delet" who makes a decent miku cover of songs plus she uses shiteyanyo and that is always funny to watch
ive not messed with making or learning to make a song with vocaloid or utau so im kinda in the dark when it comes to tuneing them toghter i just hoped it sound good

sorry if i come off a bit salty and such i'm so use to long reply meaning bad things , i'm not use to the whole discussion thing on DA lol

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emilybee In reply to 2strawberry4you [2018-04-24 08:46:30 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I've encountered worst in regards to fan love forget about being over protective, after 8 years of the fandom, I've seen much worst. 

Nothing wrong with being a casual fan, which is what those who only follow songs are, the serious nerds are on places like the wiki discussing XSY modding and whether or not XSY Yanhe with herself is allowed (short answer; no).  And if you don't know what "XSY" means, then your in a better boat then I am.  Sometimes not knowing much about voicebanks is a good thing and I wish at times I was ignorant of them too.  It would be easier. 

Diva and Songman are the best two English voicebannks, with Songman being the better of the two because he can actually sing... And Diva can't because of a recording issue. She... "Speaks" when she sings instead of actually "singing".  Miku V2 and Big Al have the same problem as it happens.  Its known as "Singspiel" style and is an accident when it comes to vocaloid, in fact several vocaloids have this issue. But their VY3 and VY4 and the VY series is known for their HQ and revolutionary approaches to voicebanks.  Whenever a VY vocaloid comes along, that language gets a serious overhaul.  And Songman came after Diva so he would be better then her, VY2 was also better then VY1 for the same reason.  Their seriously underused though, especially the two males VY2 and Songman. 

I actually don't really like Miku, some traits of her voicebank are off putting, there are a number of voicebanks like it.  When you don't like Miku as a Vocaloid fan, people can react funny to you.  I find this odd as I've been involved with a number of things that helped Vocaloid such as overhauling the Wikipedia Vocaloid page.  Miku's never been the best vocaloid, but saying that... When you think of Pokémon... Pikachu isn't the best Pokémon.  Nor is Mario the best video game character, etc.  Popularity can lead to the overhyping of things when better exists. And if we all liked the same things, it would be a boring world.  I focus on "I like Vocaloid" rather then which vocaloid people like.  We all have our guilty favourites that aren't as good as we want them.   

Long relies are people often trying to form solid points and discussing in-depth things as well.

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