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Odahviing [2012-10-08 18:05:45 +0000 UTC]

Awesome as usual

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SavagingDragon [2012-10-08 17:48:56 +0000 UTC]

Hang on.. Ive just noticed a Rat in the grass >.=.<
nice touch with that; the rat isnt going to get far...

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SavagingDragon [2012-10-08 17:06:08 +0000 UTC]

hehe, nice... what you cant see off screen is a herd of deer or something...
The only thing I'd say is the massive wing-muscle on the fore-area looks a bit larger than normal than what I would have thought, but I suppose the extra muscle helps him to be able to fly

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768dragon In reply to SavagingDragon [2012-10-09 01:25:13 +0000 UTC]

yes, I put that there to compensate for the massive weight. I can change it if you're not happy with it

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SavagingDragon In reply to 768dragon [2012-10-09 15:41:51 +0000 UTC]

It's fine; but most of Napther's size isnt from layers of fat, but from large Hydrogen bladders, which allow him to breath a lot more fire than a standard dragon - the rest of it is fat though...
Funnily enough, the bladders only compensate for several Kilos at the most...

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768dragon In reply to SavagingDragon [2012-10-09 15:48:20 +0000 UTC]

cool, then he wouldn't have such a hard time flying than if it were all fat. still, since dragons and other fantasy creatures don't have the hollow bones and all the other fragile, lightweight things that other flying animals do, they need very strong wing muscles to be able to get their bodies off the ground, let alone the stamina to keep themselves in the air for any considerable amount of time

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SavagingDragon In reply to 768dragon [2012-10-09 15:57:18 +0000 UTC]

I believe Dragon bones to be hollow/honeycombed, but with reinforcing natural carbon fibres/nanotube structures, (it was mentioned in the film, Avatar) which they get from Carbon intake of charred meat or other sources

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768dragon In reply to SavagingDragon [2012-10-09 16:05:14 +0000 UTC]

some of them could be, but depending on the specie of dragon some of them would not be able to have hollow bones due to the amount of weight they have to support, a large number of them have very dense muscle all over their bodies and even with the hollow reinforced bones the muscular system alone would make them too heavy to sustain flight comfortably without large wing muscles. although the ones that are light and are built for flight (in my opinion) would benefit from larger, stronger wings so that they have increased stamina and speed.

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SavagingDragon In reply to 768dragon [2012-10-09 16:13:49 +0000 UTC]

Yes, especially those "super unrealistically large" dragons that many people insist on... I find them bad due the Biological fact that no ecosystem can sustain them.
Napther on the other hand is only about 4 metres tall, (his shoulder at about 2m) so a deer/horse/cow every other day will be enough I assume (the huge dragons will need a herd every day or more).

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768dragon In reply to SavagingDragon [2012-10-09 16:18:09 +0000 UTC]

yes, I have often noticed that. Some could survive, just look at the whale. But more than a small few of them and they would starve to death. something that does get me is when people give them tiny little stick wings that is basically just bone, and is far too small to give any lift at all.

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SavagingDragon In reply to 768dragon [2012-10-09 16:44:16 +0000 UTC]

The only stick-parts are the wing fingers on my dragons which I am trying to increase the size and strength of...

Oh, and the wing membranes, which you have nicely made here, make it more 3 dimensional membranous stuff between the wings, unlike what I do... that will now soon be added when I start to draw...

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768dragon In reply to SavagingDragon [2012-10-09 16:48:34 +0000 UTC]

nah, your wings aren't so bad. the ones that really annoy me are ones that are only as this as the wing fingers, and the membranes only go around the outer parts of the wings and dont attach to the body.

your drawings are pretty good. you have decent anatomy and good shading. the wings do look quite 3 dimensional

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SavagingDragon In reply to 768dragon [2012-10-09 17:00:32 +0000 UTC]

yes, but on my drawings they (membranes) are Ever-taught, (constantly stretched)and I wish to add the little folds to add some more depth - all that before the major task of tying to put proper scales on my dragons...

Thanks, those types do look a bit strange, and the lose some of the lift coefficient as there is a large (MAJOR CHUNK - that area is the Aerofoil that allows them to fly!) chunk in the wing....

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768dragon In reply to SavagingDragon [2012-10-09 17:18:22 +0000 UTC]

yes, I look at those wings and think. no, that wouldn't work. I don't usually bother with the scales, I did one and it took me a few weeks to finish it. Although that was a while ago, it would probably be quicker now.

I try to make it look like when the wings are folded that the membrane is being stretched back ( the middle bit goes further in) so that it could stretch to its opening size without strain. (I'm not sure how much sense that makes, its 1.30 in the morning and I should probably sleep)

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