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Atticus-W — A new twist
Published: 2013-07-11 22:06:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 4639; Favourites: 81; Downloads: 59
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The ES-4 is arguably an “iconic” Atti-design, if there is such a thing— certainly it was the first locomotive design of mine that proved to be popular and certainly no other engine of mine has received as much fanart as it. The problem is, it was not, initially, intended to be a realistic design at all— it was cartoony and stylized and absurd and meant to exist in some videogame world. Over the years I have made various attempts to integrate the locomotive class, its rolling stock, and its railway into the real world, but none have really succeeded, and the fame associated with this unrealistic design has continued to bother and shame me. I had contemplated disowning it completely.Ironically, randomly finding some of my train designs in a videogame inspired me to take action regarding some of my “abandoned” designs. And so I decided to go back to the ES-4 and re-create it. This isn’t a simple regauging or a new paint scheme— I’ve tweaked the major dimensions and fittings and fixed the most egregiously unrealistic details while retaining as many of the ES-4’s feasible quirks as possible. I’ve moved it from a Sort 5 Impossible Locomotive to a Sort 4 Experimental Locomotive. It is an ES-4, Mk. 2, and it is meant to exist in the real world while allowing my original design to exist in its fantasy world where it belonged all along.
I’m happy to have it back. :3
(Stats will likely be posted soon.)
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I quite like the blue one, theres something about the wheel arrangement and how the tender is shaped that just looks beautiful
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Thanks very much-- really glad you like it. ^^
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Nice done. Try to make a solviet locomotive like a p36 or LV / ER / kriegsloc TE locomotives. Those are epic locomotives
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Many thanks. 
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ah i see. you sould try to.. if you know the Frisco 1630 Locomotive. maybe draw that in russian desinge. like add buffers and put a lamp on it and make on the door a nide star
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It's a good idea, although I won't have time to do it myself I'm afraid. There are photos floating around of "Russian Decapods" decked out in their as-built Russian trappings, before they were re-Americanized for domestic use... they looked quite interesting.
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why is there a tiny little driver being operated on it's own piston? it looks quite funny actually since it won't be too helpful in comparison to the rest of the engine! Beautiful! Nice cowls on the top one BTW!
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I think there's some confusion over that small wheel-- it's actually simply a non-powered carrying wheel designed to carry the weight of the large firebox along with the help of the four-wheel cast trailing truck directly behind it (making this locomotive a 4-8-6; the designers simply wished to avoid the potential complications of adding one giant six-wheel truck to the locomotive). The small rod/piston assembly that you seem to be referring to is, in fact, the boiler's blowdown pipe. The 3D model might be more clear: atticus-w.deviantart.com/art/A… .
Anyway, thank you! ^^ Glad you like my revised streamlining approach. ^^
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Nice. I like the smaller driving wheel turning it from a Northern 4-8-4 into a 4-10-4.
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Cheers, mate.
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Still, a NEW locomotive in the Whyte notation. Never heard of a 4-8-6, just the 6-8-6 Pennsy turbine, or S2
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Yeah. 4-8-6s had been proposed back during the American steam era and were advocated by the Lima Superpower team, but alas, none were built.
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"Did we scrap steam too soon?"
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was gonna say, you abandon this loco and you will have your register in the royal pof society REVOK'D
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ITS SUCH A SPLENDIFEROUS ORGANIZATION, NOT EVEN ITS OWN TREASURER (YOU) KNOWS ABOUT IT.
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/me drowns in a pool full of foppies and noppies (and woppies)
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I certainly wouldn't want to let that happen. XD
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One of my trains somehow wound up in Team Fortress 2. XD [link]
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Ah, the ES-4. Your undoubted claim to fame. Flashing back to the glory days of 2007...with poor drawing skills and alot of MS-paint. XD She has come a long way since those days. Glad to see you have not dumped this design and keep cranking on it.
The only thing I do miss was the tender design. I loved the ladders on the side and the access door to...something.
And a bell....still needs a bell.
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Hmm... perhaps I'll bring the side ladder back. XD I debated playing with it, actually-- I am a ladder fan, and the vestibule cab certainly excuses a side ladder, at least for North American practice. Mostly because I wasn't sure about European ladder standards I left it off to be safe.
The old side door lead to a generator, I think. XD (Personally I found the old tender to be one of the most preposterous parts of the old design, but at least the "original" ES-4 style can retain it.)
As for a bell, well, I was thinking about that, too. If it DOES get one it would have to be some ridiculous church bell add-on thing, since locomotive bells were hardly standard in the Soviet bloc.
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Rereading this comment years later, my mind conjured up the image of someone opening up the door in the side of the tender and instantly getting inundated with 750.000 gallons of water. Just pouring out from within like a cartoon waterfall.
In retrospect, one could theorize that the door gave access to the tank and it's baffles for better maintenance? Perhaps it was only operable from withen. Someone would have to drop through the hatch first to gain access. Mostly to prevent said cartoonish accident from happening.
Another option would be to give access to a small cabinet that contained equipment used to keep the tender tank from freezing in cold weather.
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Hehehe, interesting. XD Yeah, I hadn't thought of it as a tank maintenance/access door, but that's not a bad idea. If it WAS a literal tank access hatch it would have had to have been a well-reinforced/sealed door, though. In truth, I pictured it more like the doors on the sides of Pfaudler milk "tank cars"-- an access door to a "crawl space" between several internal water tanks, perhaps to access valves or other equipment (maybe like train heaters, etc.).
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The bell COULD be recessed behind the smoke deflectors. Also, take a look at a picture of a Big Boy's tender. it has ladders on the side. All steamers that I have seen have a ladder somewhere on the tender, so a person can get from the ground to the top of the tank. I am guessing that the locomotive is fired by a mechanical stoker, right? Either that, or it is an oil-burner, with no need for a stoker.
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I'm certainly aware that American tenders had ladders, but I'm not entirely certain right now what the ladder standards might have been for Eastern Europe/Russia, where this locomotive originates.
The locomotives pictured above are indeed oil burners. I'm debating whether or not the coal-fired versions should have mechanical stokers.
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You're welcome, mate. :3
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Well, am I glad to see a older locomotive design reused again!
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Thanks-- I'm really glad to find a way to use it again as well.
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Wow this is wonderful!
Have scene Karen Parker's C&O 4-8-6s [link] ?
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Thank you!
I don't think I had seen those, actually. The 4-8-6 illustrations are very nice. Whenever I think I've done something decent there's always another work to put me in my place.
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Yours is great according to Perfecting the American Steam Locomotive Lima Locomotive Works really was considering a 4-8-6 I have not find the patent for it but I did find the 2-12-6
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Yes, I know.
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