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varpho [2013-08-05 19:59:57 +0000 UTC]
i wonder if the use of cross is appropriate here, since not all Romani people are Christian.
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VinceITUSA [2012-10-05 20:13:09 +0000 UTC]
Problem with the Romani/Roma/Sinti/Kalo/Gipsys/Zingari/etc how ever are they called, is that they don´t wanna integrate into the society because of their mentality. Very few of them have the will to integrate.
Yes sure, we share some part of the blame here too, no doubt about it. But at the end, they are the ones who choose bad ways, ´´easy´´ ways of passing through life and so on.
I belive they´ve been for enough time in Europe to be considered europeans, but if they do not accept to be integrated into the countries they life ... the only solution left would be only to send them back to India.
It would be a shame, cose they are a people with great potencial, very smart, very agile, yet they encounter difficulties in adapting to a normal life.
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Shikku27316 In reply to VinceITUSA [2013-04-21 01:18:22 +0000 UTC]
Wow, your view of a "normal life" must suck! I know this is old, but really. Do you want everyone to be a subject of your government and leave their identity behind? You think the only thing wrong with sending them back to India (which your governments are doing, by the way) is that you will lose their potencial, intelligence, and agility-so your only uses for them are those things, so that they can be used as slaves? You seem to be okay with sending them back there otherwise, which, I suppose, is your "final solution" (your words, not mine!). Not everyone has to assimilate into your perfect society. You remind me of a famous person that most people know about, and I think you know who I'm talking about.
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VinceITUSA In reply to Shikku27316 [2013-05-01 13:50:51 +0000 UTC]
I belive i have the right to critique, no ?!
Without being accused of racism, "final solution" supporter, etc ...
Most of the stuff you said in your comment i never even mencioned in mine, so i don´t know why the attitude ?!
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Shikku27316 In reply to VinceITUSA [2013-05-01 23:04:41 +0000 UTC]
No, you don't have the right to critique the Romani people.
You said (in these exact words): "the only solution left would be only to send them back to India. [sic]"
You just talk about them not conforming to your view of "normal society", and then you say that they should be deported for being traditional. The only difficulties they face in adapting to a boring normal life are "normals" who treat them like crap and the fact that they have a tradition, unlike the rest of the Europeans who just deal with economy, politics, electronics, and other jokes.
And, really? "Bad" ways and "easy" ways to get through life? So, it's wrong to be traditional and cultural, but it's okay when non-Romani people throw molotov cocktails at children and build walls around settlements?
Read your original comment!
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VinceITUSA In reply to Shikku27316 [2013-05-02 22:18:01 +0000 UTC]
What´s wrong with going back to India ?!
You´re not europeans, you´re not accepted in Europe, so why not try you luck in a place more suitable for your "traditions and culture" ...
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Shikku27316 In reply to VinceITUSA [2013-05-02 22:33:48 +0000 UTC]
There's a lot wrong with taking a whole group of people and forcing them to move away. It's a neo-Nazist view, first of all.
And, you said Roma were in Europe long enough to consider them Europeans, now they're not?
Also, I'm not Roma (as far as I know), I just really care about defending them from people like you.
If I were you, I'd go off to worry about other things, like the 50 million pictures in your gallery about "Moldova is Romania!" Seriously, one picture is enough to get the message across.
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VinceITUSA In reply to Shikku27316 [2013-05-12 17:10:17 +0000 UTC]
neo-nazist view ?! please, you have no ideea what a neo-nazist view is.
look, i have nothing against the Roma people as human beings, i´m only against their lack of education.
so my point was, either educate them (by force if necesarry) and integrate them into the european societies they currently reside in ... or if that has no effect, send them back to India, where their ancestors camed from.
that´s it.
the jewish people went back to Israel, their ancestral land which they´ve not been in for 2000 years, why don´t the gypsys can´t go back to a part of India ?!
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Shikku27316 In reply to VinceITUSA [2013-05-13 04:36:35 +0000 UTC]
They can go to India. But not unwillingly. The Jews weren't forced to go to Israel, they got the opportunity and some took it. We don't have to force them to integrate into "flawless" society. They have traditions and want to keep them. Every society was like that back when. Yes, even "perfect" Europeans. But then political stuff came around, and gradually other things made every society turn into a bunch of confused people obsessed with petrol and perfection. The Romani people are better off staying out of this mess, because it would eat me up inside if nobody still cared about living rather than having petrol and money.
Don't talk about a lack of education until you learn proper grammar and to stop using ditto marks as apostrophes.
And a neo-Nazist view does include wanting everybody to be part of perfect society and forcing people to go to their homeland rather than giving them the opportunity. I know neo-Nazis, they are at my school. I would know about their demented views.
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VinceITUSA In reply to Shikku27316 [2013-05-13 14:59:09 +0000 UTC]
You´re critique about my English grammar is quite exagerated (not using the word i´m really thinking about), just for the fact that i´m not from a English speaking country, English is not my first language, so frankly i can care less if i write correctly or not ! Be GRATEFULL that i´m answering you in English and that´s it, ok ?!
As for the gypsys not being obsessed with oil and money like the Europeans, well the gypsys are quite a greedy people, so althow they haven´t acquired yet a taste for oil, the sure have a yearning for money, gold and precious stones !
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Shikku27316 In reply to VinceITUSA [2013-05-13 20:51:51 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I hear Mother Teresa was very greedy.~
Romanies don't steal. I don't know where else you could have gotten such information about "precious stones" other than whites-only propaganda.
Stereotyping is wrong. What if I said you were poor and that you listen to Dragostea din Tei all the time? It would be wrong, and I would absolutely hate for that to happen to you. Just like if someone said I scream at lightning and hate Albania. I don't, because generalisations are wrong. Don't stereotype. It just makes you look like a loser.
And, you could at least try to improve your English. At least if you're going to talk about who's uneducated.
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vaipaBG [2012-10-04 17:15:17 +0000 UTC]
People without a future.
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AY-Deezy In reply to vaipaBG [2012-10-04 17:37:42 +0000 UTC]
because of us !
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vaipaBG In reply to AY-Deezy [2012-10-04 18:19:01 +0000 UTC]
They have only themselves to blame.
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