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grapefan [2018-07-18 06:09:13 +0000 UTC]
definitely a widow maker. Hold on to that wheel...... tight!
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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to grapefan [2018-07-20 17:06:00 +0000 UTC]
Most dirt track racers were in that era, and still are to a lesser extent.
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grapefan In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2018-07-21 08:23:03 +0000 UTC]
Yea... well a lot of good drivers were killed in that era....
I'm glad they developed the safety equipment.... cages, arm restraints pull offs etc.... its better to be able to see some of these guys after they retire....
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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to grapefan [2018-07-21 08:28:17 +0000 UTC]
Friend this year at Hershey is a vintage car restorer and mechanic for a living, was there to work on the Bunce Buck and a Lotus 11 that ended up wadded up.
He asked the owner if he wanted arm restraints, evidently the owner thought they weren't needed. Thankfully, when the driver realized the shit was hitting the fan he let go of the wheel, crossed his arms and grabbed the harness. After a lot of apologies to everyone aorund... when they get that Eleven back together, my guess is arm restraints will be added.
After that... I talked to a friend with a Vintage Porsche 928 D Production car, and he told me not to worry, it's got a mandatory window net. Also has one of those NASCAR style armored box driver's seats as well as a full cage, fuel cell...all good stuff.
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grapefan In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2018-07-21 09:02:35 +0000 UTC]
yea... thats what i like to hear... I remember reading "OpenWheel" magazine and how they always talked about the old timers being brave .... past tense.... I'd rather be safe, humans are very delicate actually... its good that we try to protect ourselves when doing brave things!
I havent been to an event for about ten yrs now.... would like to go to Knoxville Ia for the nationals.... hopefully will go in two yrs if all goes right.
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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to grapefan [2018-07-22 07:53:11 +0000 UTC]
Well, I saw a lot of pretty tough pics in the 60's in Dad's Road and Tracks and Car and Drivers a little kid prolly should not have seen. Bandini's fatal crash at Monaco comes to mind. I didn;t end up messed up over it... but it was a reality of the sport for decades.
This book is highly recommended.. and the title is very appropriate:
www.amazon.com/Cruel-Sport-Gra…
This book is also excellent:
www.amazon.com/Black-Noon-Year…
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grapefan In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2018-07-22 08:11:30 +0000 UTC]
I remember that.... was watching Wide World of Sports when that happened....
I may take a look at it, thank you for the links.
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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to grapefan [2018-07-22 08:28:16 +0000 UTC]
Recent article in a vintage car magazine had someone's comment subtly sanitized regarding the car Dave McDonald drove. Evidently Mickey Thompson's car was a true deathtrap.
....It was reported that while out practicing with MacDonald on Carb Day, 1963 World Champion Jim Clark noticed strange movements from MacDonald's car, followed him into the pits and urged him to "Get out of that car, mate - just walk away."....
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grapefan In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2018-07-22 08:30:32 +0000 UTC]
Wish Jimmy Clark woulda done that too. That was a McClaren if I remember right.... experimental design?
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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to grapefan [2018-07-22 08:34:17 +0000 UTC]
Clark was killed in an F2 support race at Hockenheim in an F2 Lotus. One friend feels Colin Chapman killed too many drivers because his cars were overly light and fragile.
Bruce McLaren was killed testing I believe his M8D at Goodwood. One of the reasons McLaren dominated Can-Am was Bruce's intensive and overly thorough off season testing and development. Can-Am prize winnings made the money for the F1 effort. When Porsche showed up... that's when they got out of Can-Am.
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grapefan In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2018-07-22 09:03:51 +0000 UTC]
ahh... ok, I just seem to remember McClaren having those kind of cars... wings and the like. It was good for the sport, but they looked dangerous at times. I was a different kind of fan back fan, I liked the open wheel dirt cars, and those were just as dangerous it seemed, well, they would ue the same cars on pavement tracks too. have a lot of those tracks around me... say within a couple of hours that I could go to all my life.
I loved can am and imsa and the like, just didnt get to see much of it back then. I still enjoy them today, dont know the drivers but I always try to catch it when its on.... seems like a choppy schedule, but I still like them, they actually have rules about running into people etc... ya actually have to drive your way around a competitor.... I like that idea. I watch Le Mans every year... wont miss that for anything.
What is it, the bridgestone series, and Pirelli is another big sponser of a series? If I were ever to have raced myself, thats where I wouldve done it. Not much for going to the tracks, cant see a whole lot, but for the person behind the wheel, I couldnt see racing any other way.
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ShawnSkunk [2013-05-28 18:42:17 +0000 UTC]
nice.
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