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Scavenger1234567890 [2016-01-16 20:10:14 +0000 UTC]
Guns do not kill people,people kill people.
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JPlum21 [2014-03-28 03:37:08 +0000 UTC]
Southern Gals use guns, it's just a thing, the political side, Guns = Freedom, Anti-Gun = Tyranny, it's simple as that in fictional worlds, and the real world
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DaddlerProwers [2014-01-15 21:22:15 +0000 UTC]
Awesome Picture of Bunnie!
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Sonic808 [2012-03-09 17:32:48 +0000 UTC]
Nice pic!
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Beau-Skunk [2012-02-14 15:47:49 +0000 UTC]
I admit, I didn't like the "anti-gun" thing either, (I'm not really a gun-enthusiast, but I'm not against using guns for safety/hunting) but it wasn't so much because of the left-wing leaning personally, so much as the fact that Rotor himself actually USED a gun earlier in the comic, as well. (And some of the others as you pointed out.) Wich made his character look like a huge hypocrite.
Luckly though Ian touched on that though, and had Rotor admit that he was wrong with that statement, and being kinda hypocritical.
But to be honest, I actually like the Sonic comics, regardless of their ups & downs. I think they got much better under Ian's directions in the past 6 years. (In my opinion, they're less confusing then Penders or Bollers issues.)
No offense, but I get kinda get tired of people bad-mouthing them all the time on DA, no offense.
(Besides, every comic book series has had bad issues/stories/writers before. Sonic is just no exeption. Doesn't mean the whole series is bad.)
But personal opinions aside, very great sketch of Bunnie. You did a good job on her, I like her outfit, and great job on her guns. (No not those guns. )
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Big-Bad-Buddy-Wolf In reply to Beau-Skunk [2012-02-15 16:59:42 +0000 UTC]
I'm not even looking at this as a pure political issue, but as an avid reader and amateur author, there is nothing more irritating than a glaring plot inconsistency or down right hole. I'm no friend of Ken Penders, and I've thrown down a few times with him over crap like that, only to get his usual "Well I'm working on the comic and you aren't so there! Nahhh." attitude. The guy is a real piece of work.
Granted, I've not picked up a Sonic comic in probably..... wow, going on five years, so a lot of of my knowledge of current events is a bit second hand. So great was my disgust over how badly they were written and quite frankly drawn as well, that I canceled and really didn't look back other than the occasional sigh of longing for the good old days of it.
No offense is taken, in fact I'm a big enough person that if you say they have gotten better, I will make a stop to my local comic shop and pick one up. If it's true that Ian corrected that hideous pile of leftward anti-gun garbage, I'll start reading them again out of total respect for that. Fact of the matter is, I use to know him back when he was just another online fan boy, so I'm willing to suspend my dislike of the comic and give it another examination.
Anyway, thanks for the comment on this sketch. This started out as a sculpture design, and hopefully it still will be if I can ever get my stuff put back up and going again. Hahahah! Yes, Bunnie does have great guns, both sets if you ask me! ;D
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Beau-Skunk In reply to Big-Bad-Buddy-Wolf [2012-02-15 17:43:16 +0000 UTC]
A skupture based on this would look pretty cool. Hehe
As for the comics, they're kind of in the middle of some kinda big story arc now, so I don't know if this is the right time to jump back on board the comic series in the middle of a story. (Seeing as some fans are kinda split on if the current story arc is "good" or not.) But overall, I much prefer Ian Flynn's writing over Ken Penders any day.
(And unlike Penders, Ian actually listens to fan-critiques, and tries to use them to improve his writing, and work on the comic, and addressing things people don't like about the series in-story to fix things. Ian's also a fan of the games, so he puts in some references, and characters from the games to.)
While, I admit I like some of Penders' work on the series, alot of it wasn't very good later on, I admit. (Especially, the anti-gun thing you mentioned. Wich made Rotor look like a hypocrite considering this [link] panel here.)
I always hear bad things about (former head-writer) Ken Penders actually. I normally don't like judging people I don't know, but I've been to his website before, and to be honest, from seeing his own words, and such... He does act very egotistical, and a bit mean-spirited torwards people who criticize his work, or anyone else whom works on the comic for that matter. (He even bad-mouthed Ian Flynn, regardless of admitting he never read a single issue he wrote.)
Nearly a year back, he even tried to sue Archie, EA/Bioware, & Sega (and failed) for still using "his" characters in the comic. [link] (As explained here.)
Wich is almost stupid, because being a "licensed" comic, Sega has the majority copyright over the characters introduced in the comic, and can do whatever they want with them. (They even had one named Athair appear redesigned in the show "Sonic Undergroud.")
Also, how the heck does Penders hope to copyrite characters who look like Sonic & Knuckles, such as Julie-Su, and Rob O'Hedge? It's rediculous.
But the thing that angered me most about him was I remember seeing a fan of the comic, and him (or at least former fan of his) said when they were little they wrote a fan-letter to Penders stating they wanted to become a comic writer/creator when they grow up to, and he was their inspiration to them.
Penders wrote back basically saying, "Don't even bother, kid." ...Nice way to stick it to your fan, Penders.
(And needless to say, I hear that "kid" now runs their own popular web-comic series. Goes to show what Ken knows.)
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Big-Bad-Buddy-Wolf In reply to Beau-Skunk [2012-02-17 14:29:25 +0000 UTC]
I stopped off at the comic store and picked up the latest Sonic, and some back issues. I'll digest them over the weekend and let you know what I think. I have to tell you, that there is no words to describe my hope that these capture the old feeling of the comic, and I would be more than happy to offer Ian a Mea Culpa, but we shall see. As for the story arc, if I get into it, my local comic book guy is very good about getting me back issues, so I'll be able to read the whole thing in it's entirety in a prompt manor.
What is the difference between the regular comic and this, Sonic Universe title, if I may ask? You seem far more in the know than most I talk to.
Every encounter I have ever had with Penders, he went above and beyond to show himself as a total D-bag. Grubbing around the animation and art world, you do meet all kinds of people, but on whole most are kind, accepting of their fans, and even a few bend over backwards to embrace them. Then there are the Penders.... Rude, egotistical, and nearly despotic when it comes to any discussion of their work.
He sued them?! I'm surprised by the audacity of it, and yet not at the same time. My legal knowledge is rusty, but don't most companies, especially that deal in the intellectual development of a franchise, make you sign a disclosure that anything you create while working on that franchise, especially if it becomes cannon, is the direct property of the developing company? I mean, if they didn't do that anyone could break away and tear the continuity of that franchise apart. (Example: If one of the developers on a Capcom fighting title broke away and then got to keep the fighters he designed, there would be no way for the company to produce the game with any consistency or produce any subsequent titles.) Considering our misguided legal system, it surprises me that he lost, yet I'm thankful he wasn't given the opportunity to do further damage to the comics just to line his own pockets.
Actually, I remember that comic post where he publicly dashed the hopes of the fan kid!! This was another prime example of his massive despotic ego, that he feels so threatened by the possibility of new talent in the field that he had to publicly admonish the kid in the freaking letters section! In fact, this was one of the subject of one of my email 'discussions' with him way back when. I'm glad to hear that this person didn't let Pompous Ass Penders break his spirit, the best revenge is proving someone wrong as they say.
Anyway, I appreciate you indulging me as I comb these comics over, and being a bit long winded as well. It's nice to meet a few true fans that are willing to change someone's mind rather than flame them.
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Beau-Skunk In reply to Big-Bad-Buddy-Wolf [2012-02-17 15:55:12 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, and yeah flaming gets you nowhere. I just give my opinions, but sometimes I'm afraid to, because I don't wanna come off as if my opinions matter, or anything.
I've also caught hell before from so-called "Sonic fans" for being a fan of the comic, as well as some other things... So it's refreshing to run into somebody who's interested in my thoughts on the comic.
The difference between SU & StH is...
"Sonic the Hedgehog" focuses mostly on Sonic, and his freedom fighter friends in their battle against Dr. Eggman/Robotnik, and such.
While "Sonic Universe" is sort've a side-series that focuses more on other characters in the comic, and giving them their own separate 4-part issue adventures wich are separate from the main StH story. (I have a few issues of SU, but right now I can only afford to subscribe to the main StH seires.)
You don't have to get both to enjoy the series, or understand what's going on, but both are worth a shot. (Depends on your tastes.)
SUniverse seems to mostly focus on the game characters, but the comic-exclusive ones appear in them, as well.
Archie also had a "Sonic X" comic based on the anime, wich focused a bit more on single stand-alone story issues, and humor. Some say they felt it was better then the TV show.
As for Penders I really don't understand him, I hear he's still trying to drum up trouble with Archie & Sega, and trying to get back "his" characters to make his own echidna comic book. (And yeah, I hear he did sign some contracts so Sega & Archie should be free to use them regardless of what Penders tries to claim.)
Penders is basically acting like an upset little kid whom no longer wants to share his toys with anyone else.
Still, if Penders makes Sega hesitant to renew the comics' license, and kills the comic as a result, I'm going to be very angry with him.
He really should just let the series be, and try to come up with his own stuff instead.
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Big-Bad-Buddy-Wolf In reply to Beau-Skunk [2012-02-25 18:30:31 +0000 UTC]
Well, I guess it's time for my Ian Flynn Mea Culpa, so here goes.
After digesting Sonic 232 and 233, it would seem that I do owe Mr. Flynn a huge apology. I've not touched a Sonic comic since around 158, in which case they were so cringe worthy that I tossed the last one I bought across the room in disgust.
Now considering that I'm not 100% sure of what's going on, I jumped into 232 and was surprised to find I was eager to pick up 233 to find out what was going to happen next. That's not happened in a very long wile! Were it's a bit premature of me to say that the old feeling is back, I thoroughly enjoyed them both, especially the fact that there was more than three words per speech bubble, and I didn't feel the need to roll my eyes or cut myself after three pages.
King Naugus is a nice touch, and winding that around St. John is down right refreshingly clever. It was nice to see some witty banter between the characters, as well as a few good bones for the old school fans like myself. (Seeing Hip and Hop.) If handled correctly, Bunnie getting her body back could turn into a massive story bonus with plethora of great lines to build off from. The artwork is still a little on the cartoony side for my tastes, but that is hardly something I'm going to fault it for considering how improved the writing is. Finally, I love the idea of Elias forming his own Special Ops team. Again, I see so much potential for the comics getting back to their former greatness, and it must be credited to Mr. Flynn as far as I can tell.
I was impressed enough, that I will be back ordering to get caught up, and renewing my subscription as well.
What I'm not impressed with is the mischaracterization I'm seeing online, and I'm sad to say I was allowed to be influenced by it. Taken out of context, or on it's own, some of the one liners I've seen people single out for ridicule, do seem pretty stupid. But after reading these both, I think Mr. Flynn levels the comic nicely, keeping a good equalized feeling of seriousness, and the tongue and cheek comedy that I use to love these comics for.
So, here is my official apology. Mr. Flynn, "Es tut mir sehr leid."
And I have to thank you for bringing this to my attention. It's nice to finally meet another good Sonic fan online and actually have a discussion with them rather than the usual trolling display for the critics ego. Anytime you want to discuss Sonic, you have an attentive ear here my friend!
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Beau-Skunk In reply to Big-Bad-Buddy-Wolf [2012-02-25 18:59:12 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, nice to hear ya enjoyed them. Yeah, some fans like to paint the comic in a bad light. It made me relunctant to jump back on board myself, but then when I heard they were getting a new writer (Ian) I decided to check it out, and I'm glad I did, and subscribed ever sense. I loved seeing the kangeroos Hip & Hop come back. (Weren't they also in the "Sonic Spinball" game in the Lava Powerhouse level?)
Ian sometimes pays homage to the older campier issues, (Wich I admit, I loved to.) as well as the games, and sometimes even sneaks in a few quotes from the old cartoons, and such in.
A few years ago, he even surprisingly had Scratch, Grounder, and Coconuts come back from the earlier issues (and "Adventures of Sonic" show) and now they work in Mammoth Mogul's casino after Robotnik abandoned them, and most of his other old badniks whom also work there now.
I like Ben Bates, & Tracey Yardley's cartoonier art styles personally, but I don't mind seeing other art styles in the comic, as well. Stephen Butler who has a more realistic look still sometimes works on the series though, as well as other artists. I always liked how the series had different artists working on it.
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Big-Bad-Buddy-Wolf In reply to Beau-Skunk [2012-02-29 00:41:13 +0000 UTC]
Where in your opinion did the comics get back on track? I'm looking to order back issues, but would rather skip over the bad issues...
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cartoonking1 [2012-02-02 01:36:11 +0000 UTC]
Actually the whole βanti-gun' thing was started by Theodore Acorn in issue # 72, which was written before Ian came into the comic but it flipped back and forth but mostly stuck from #72 onward except on a few exceptions. As for the 'Sally-thing' after the whole slap thing in issue #134 Sally's charter was in shambles, when Ian came on the scene one of the goals was to redeem her, so she went to speaking terms, to good friend, to love and finally makes a heroic sacrifice redeeming her and making her sacrifice mean something, he said that on the forums of Bummbleking.com.
But you are entitled to your opinions, just thought you like that info, all so I REALLY like your Bunnie pick it has great details.
Take care my friend.
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Big-Bad-Buddy-Wolf In reply to cartoonking1 [2012-02-02 06:47:47 +0000 UTC]
Actually, #72 is more about gun responsibility than anti-gun. The King did not seek vengeance but cut off all contact with humans and forbade guns, which Tails notes "Unknown to the King, his policy would result in an ever greater misunderstanding leading to decades of war." The comics are littered with guns after this, Ish # 76, 77, 78, 79, 81,82,86,93 which Nick the Weasel brandishes a rather large sniper rifle, 94, 98, 103,107, 109, 119, especially issues 122, 123, where Sally herself wields and uses a hand gun, and so on.
I did some digging, an though I still greatly disagree with you on Flynn's ability to write cogent stories, I now remember why I quit reading these around 150. I'll amend my write up, as my malice in the anti-gun sentiment needs to be directed to Ken Penders, not Flynn. I thought the statement made was after 160, not in 149.
As for Flynn, tons of weeping, everyone fighting each-other, and Sonic Memes do not impress me. Sally wouldn't need to be fixed, if people like Penders and Bollers didn't feel the need to fix things that are not broken. If redemption was the goal, a robot Sally in my opinion falls pretty darn short of the mark. Oh well.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
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