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Lupa-Rutila [2016-09-24 16:26:21 +0000 UTC]
Wow, beautiful place, amazing that it was built so close to the edge - looks as if it emerged directly from the rock...
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BricksandStones In reply to Lupa-Rutila [2016-09-25 11:39:45 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the comment! I am very glad you like my two shots from Cilicia - Armenian castles there are quite amazing though visiting them is also a bit sad as it makes you think of all the cities, monasteries, churches and cathedrals that were destroyed - not a single church preserved from an entire kingdom! Still, Cilicia can inspire imagination - the last king of Cilicia is actually buried in St Denis in France - his tomb is very beautiful... Thank you again for commenting!
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BricksandStones In reply to LilliTheSquirrel [2016-05-31 18:11:32 +0000 UTC]
I am glad you like it! What I like about such locations is how impressive it is when you think how different armies passed by it - Crusaders (German and French), Byzantines, Egyptians, Turks, Mongols and, of course, Armenians who built it.... Thank you for the comment! I appreciate it!
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BricksandStones In reply to AguraNatasDreams [2016-05-17 16:20:34 +0000 UTC]
I am glad you like it! Thank you very much for taking the time to view it and write a comment - I really appreciate it!
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BricksandStones In reply to LadyMarg [2016-03-16 17:53:57 +0000 UTC]
Cieszę się że Ci się podoba - jadąc pod tą górę uszkodziłem wypożyczony samochód tak że przez całe zwiedzanie zamiast cieszyć się miejscem martwiłem się czy ubezpieczenie to pokryje..... w końcu pokryło ale niestety Anavarza kojarzy mi się z lękiem o ubezpieczenie.... Dzięki za komentarz!
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thewolfcreek [2016-02-21 22:41:34 +0000 UTC]
Fine shot and work...
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BricksandStones In reply to thewolfcreek [2016-02-22 11:38:41 +0000 UTC]
I am very glad you think so - thank you very much for taking the time to view it and comment, I appreciate it!
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Scipia [2016-01-31 16:55:25 +0000 UTC]
An amazing fortress, it's sad to see that again division between Byzantines, Armenians & Crusaders lead these civilizations to their collapse, they create so many wonders ...
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BricksandStones In reply to Scipia [2016-01-31 18:20:01 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the comment, I am really glad you like Anavarza, it is one of my favorite Armenian castles in Cilicia. I like it a lot because this is the site where there is the best preserved medieval Armenian church in region (almost three walls of it are still standing...) I agree with you that it is sad that all these medieval realms in the Levant and their cultural achievements have vanished.... Lets just hope that at least the few remaining monuments will be protected, I was shocked when I heard that Crack Les Chevaliers was bombed and its Hospitaller cloisters were partially destroyed, near Mosul, ISIS destroyed a Syriac monastery of Mar Benham which had genuine, 13th C. Mongol inscriptions preserved near its main altar. They were commissioned by Mongol rulers of Baghdad and were the only surviving examples of medieval Mongol script in the Middle-East, now the monastery is gone and all Christians in the region were either killed all fled.... Anyway, sorry for the digression, I get talkative when I write about medieval Middle-East, thank you for the comment - I appreciate it!
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Scipia In reply to BricksandStones [2016-01-31 18:31:26 +0000 UTC]
The best preserved ? It's sad if there is no more Armenians legacy in Cicilia, this civilization clearly deserve to see their legacy and their historical buildings protected, their culture was so "original".
I hope the Syrian civil war & isis won't destroy more historical wonders than they already destroy, but I'm pessimistic with the future of this country I don't see how peace could come back here :-/
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artamusica [2016-01-30 17:07:41 +0000 UTC]
As always, I just love all the historical commentary. I learn so much form the somments back and forth as well s from your original commentary! Much like the Swiss who, when threatened moved up to their beloved mountains, so these people did out of necessity. Have you ever seen the olf fortress Les Baux in the south of France? It, too is on top of a plateau with steep cliffs all around. Keep these wonderful photos and commentary coming please!!!
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BricksandStones In reply to artamusica [2016-01-31 17:39:59 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much, it is a real pleasure for me to know that someone reads those descriptions and finds them interesting. I also like you comparison with Switzerland, in Poland, the history of Switzerland is often considered a wonderful example of a young state determined to protect its sovereignty. This is because during the time when Swiss confederation was fighting for its independence Poland was gradually loosing its independence and Poland had a smaller army than Switzerland even though it was a much larger country comprising nearly all of modern Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania and Poland. So the common saying in Poland is, if only we would be as determined to fight as Switzerland, we would never have lost our independence because we would have a larger army with higher morale.... Anyway, thank you also for mentioning Les Baux, it is a beautiful site, I have seen photos of it before but I was never fortunate enough to visit it. The steep cliffs, however, look very beautiful and recall some of the fortresses I have seen in Cilicia. Thank you once again, for taking the time to comment, it sounds repetitive when I write this, but I am always glad to see that you visit my gallery!
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artamusica In reply to BricksandStones [2016-01-31 20:15:06 +0000 UTC]
I never miss a chance to check out your work and I always look forward to seeing aand reading it! I dont always have the time to go in depth so I sometimes wait until I have that time, hence the delay in the response. Something to remember about switzerland is that backc in time, the biggest export was actually mercenaries. It got so bad that brother would be fighting brother, or cousin against cousin on two different sides, neither of which were Swiss! So the Swiss then made it illegal to be a mercenary. But the fighting knowledge was there in place. the Swiss have always had an army ready to deploy at a moment's notice, the territory is smaller and 2/3 of it is serious mountain terrain. Unlike the wide open land of Poland. So it is a tough nut to crack. But first there were the Romans, then the Austrian Hapsbergs and the final indignity was Napoleon. The Swiss really hate to talk about that one. And there have been numerous compromises along the way to staying independent, for which the Swiss are still blamed today. It's not always the best way to fight. the Swiss try to make themselves as hard a nut to crack as possible in the hopes that an invading force will go around them to "easier" places. It has worked somewhat. Then when the force comes back, hopefully, it is weakened. But not always. But the Swiss are nothing, if not ingenious and they certainly know their mountains well. And use them in creative ways that are, even today, quite astonishing. those army installations hidden in the mountainside, the tunnel defenses, the highways that can be turned into instant airplane landing strips, not to mention the "Toblerone path". Most are no longer useful, but I often wonder what else they have up their sleeves that we don't know about. But I do know that Swiss pilots are the only paid professionals. And after they leave the army, they mostly become Swiss Airline pilots. Quite a comforting thought to be honest because their level of training has been absolutely tip top! Have a lovely evening!
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JArchitect [2016-01-28 13:39:27 +0000 UTC]
Excelent info. Tnx for sharing
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BricksandStones In reply to YulianEruannoNoldor [2016-01-29 13:13:11 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much for the comment! You are right of course, nature can have devastating effects even on largest medieval monuments, the cathedral of Toros in Anavarza was still standing with its vault intact in the 19th C. (there are some photos of it by a famous traveller Gertrude Bell) but collapsed in the early 20th C. because of erosion.... It is a shame because that was the only preserved Armenian church left in Cilicia... (wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.… here you can see how much grass was growing on its roof). Unfortunately all of the surviving monuments from the kingdom of Cilicia are heavily decayed..... Most are not preserved at all, literally all of the churches, cathedrals and monasteries of the kingdom are destroyed, the capital of medieval Cilicia, Sis (modern Kozan) used to be the seat of the patriarch of all Armenians but his cathedral and residence was razed to the ground as was the royal palace with the throne of Cilician kings (this throne was preserved until post-medieval period, there are some detailed descriptions of it by early modern travellers). I think that the only reason why the castles are preserved is because they are located high in the mountains and destroying them would be very time consuming, difficult and expensive.... Anyway, thank you very much once again for taking the time to view and comment!
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ahappierlife [2016-01-28 07:22:47 +0000 UTC]
In your description, I can sense maybe some sympathy for these people. After a while in Romania, I began to understand how much Britain had gained by being an island protected by the sea and how much Romania had suffered by being at an international crossroads. Geography made so much difference in those days. Thanks so much for taking the time to give the story behind the castle.
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BricksandStones In reply to ahappierlife [2016-01-28 11:12:53 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the comment Andrew! It sounds repetitive but I am always glad to see that you visit my gallery! You are, of course, right, I have a lot of sympathy for Armenians like for most people living on the frontiers and trying to survive and maintain their sovereignty somewhere between more powerful, imperial states. Also, I always feel a sense of nostalgia for all the realms and cultures which have been destroyed and their inhabitants massacred which, unfortunately, was the case with Armenian Cilicia. If you visit this region today, there is not a single surviving church preserved intact. Out of numerous monasteries, cathedrals and chapels only about 12 are preserved today, without any vaults anyway. Also,, there is not a single fresco preserved in Cilicia even though chroniclers record that Armenian churches in the kingdom were decorated with colorful murals. Also, because of tensions between Armenia and Turkey and Turkish denial of Armenian Genocide no one really cares for the little remains of Armenian structures that survive to this day in Cilicia. Situation is slightly better in Eastern Turkey but in Cilicia it is very bad. I like your comparison with Romania though, I agree that Romanians and Romanian heritage also suffered tremendously because of the geographical location. As we talked previously, for example there are no medieval stained glass panels preserved in Romania (as there are very few in Poland or Hungary). Still, being located on the frontier between strong cultural centers creates a certain, frontier character which I like very much. Mixing different styles and creating syncretistic art combining traditions from different parts of the world..... Anyway, I am unusually talkative today... Once again, thank you very much for taking the time to comment!
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ahappierlife In reply to BricksandStones [2016-01-28 18:53:48 +0000 UTC]
You make knowledge interesting. I love that. Keep being talkative!
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JezMiller [2016-01-27 21:17:41 +0000 UTC]
How very interesting. This is an aspect of Crusade history that I haven't really come across before. It's a magnificent fortification - and a stunning picture. How did they manage to pay for it - or feed its population? Surely such a mountainous region couldn't have had a lot of decent farmland?
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BricksandStones In reply to JezMiller [2016-01-28 02:06:29 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the comment Jeremy, your questions are very good and, to be honest, I do not have a very good answer to them. From what I know, Cilicia can be divided into two parts, the coast in the south, where there are some cities like Tarsus or Ayas (Laiazzo) and fertile plains, and mountains in the north which are easier to defend. Most food for the inhabitants of Armenian castles probably came from the coast. When Cilicia was invaded by forces more powerful than the Armenian army, for example by the Byzantine army in 1135/6 or by the Crusaders, or by the Turks and Egyptian Mameluks, Armenian nobles withdrew to their castles in the north and waited for the storm to pass. Because of this Cilicia, was a relatively poor kingdom that was very sparsely populated. I remember reading that at the height of its power in the 13th C. the king of Cilicia has around 200-250 knights, of course, his army included also men at arms and supporting units but this was still not much. Because of this, Armenians very rarely opposed their enemies in open battles and when they tried to do so with Egyptian Mameluks, they were heavily outnumbered and defeated. In the 14th C. Armenia received food from Cyprus and Western Europe. There are many documents which record that the Popes in Rome paid for ships bringing grain to Cilicia because frequent attacks by Egyptians devastated the coastal area and inhabitants of Cilicia faced starvation (I have an article about this, if you would like, I can email it to you as a Pdf). That is all I know about the food and I have to admit that I know even less about the economy of the kingdom. I know that the ports in Ayas and Korykos were important trade centres, I also expect that many Armenian nobles simply attacked and looted neighboring realms. There were some monasteries in Cilicia which might have engaged in specialist craft production (not a single monastery is preserved today, unfortunately). I do not think there was any gold in the mountains..... Anyway, sorry for the longish response and thank you, once again, for commenting!
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Theophilia [2016-01-27 21:02:05 +0000 UTC]
Beautiful! And I love the historical notes you write along with the pictures! They're an absolute treasure trove of information!
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BricksandStones In reply to Theophilia [2016-01-28 01:34:33 +0000 UTC]
Wow, thank you very much for the comment! I am very glad that this caught your attention and that you find some of the descriptions interesting. I always really appreciate it when someone actually takes the time to read them so thank you once again! if you like Icons perhaps you might find it interesting that Anvarza used to have a miraculous icon, I am not sure whether it was the icon of St. Mary or the icon of St. Sergios, but either way, this icon was taken to Constantinople by the Byzantine emperor John Comnenus after he conquered Anavarza, after 37 days of siege, in 1137. Armenians also had other important icons, the icon from Korykos is said to have cured the Turkish Karaman from blindness. Most of them were transported to Cyprus in the 14th C..... Anyway, thank you very much once again!
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mecengineer [2016-01-27 20:01:25 +0000 UTC]
beautiful
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BricksandStones In reply to mecengineer [2016-01-27 20:13:14 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much for taking the time to write a comment! I am really glad this caught your attention!
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