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loneEarth [2008-11-06 06:55:40 +0000 UTC]
wow, I love this!
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6-Nedward [2008-10-02 10:31:12 +0000 UTC]
nice shot man
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loneantarcticwolf [2008-10-02 09:08:41 +0000 UTC]
It gives you an electric feeling
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CrisisCorps [2008-10-02 06:20:04 +0000 UTC]
great shot
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NicholasJohn [2008-10-02 06:19:55 +0000 UTC]
I like this. I'm about to go out and take some more start trails. Some have turned out, some don't. Hit or miss.
What was your ISO? Seems a bit high--might be because of the night shot...
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Cameron-Jung In reply to NicholasJohn [2008-10-02 06:21:56 +0000 UTC]
Its 35mm Film at 200ISO - Noise is courtesy of reciprocity failure in the film negative, which happens to film subject to extended exposures.
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NicholasJohn In reply to Cameron-Jung [2008-10-02 06:25:06 +0000 UTC]
Yeah fair enough. Basically the same result with digital with long exposure night shots. I've never really shot with film, but understand, for the most part, how it works.
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Cameron-Jung In reply to NicholasJohn [2008-10-02 06:27:55 +0000 UTC]
believe me digital is much worse. If i had a digital that would do that id be using it - the noise levels on my D300 are easily acceptable but unfortunately Amp Glow is the killer in all my long exposure pictures. I am soon to invest in the d700 but ive seen examples of that with amp glow as well. As soon as someone can find me a solution to this problem my film camera will have to be the one to use.
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NicholasJohn In reply to Cameron-Jung [2008-10-02 06:31:12 +0000 UTC]
Really? Wow I've heard the D300 is nearly amazing when it comes to ISO and long exposure. That is the camera I will be upgrading to soon, at least in the next few months.
As far as "amp glow" what do you mean? I'm not sure I'm familiar with this term.
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Cameron-Jung In reply to NicholasJohn [2008-10-02 06:38:13 +0000 UTC]
A digital image sensor will heat up during a long exposure and will start "burning" the image in red patches, usually at the edges of the exposure. My D300 burns about a third of the way through the frame as a massive red band i cant remove with my level of ability in photoshop.
Some people go to extreme measures to minimize the damage including dry ice and god knows what else. Im very disappointed the d700 has a few issues of its own but im hoping it will at least give me the 20 minutes i require.
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YugenM In reply to Cameron-Jung [2008-10-02 10:27:51 +0000 UTC]
dark frame subtraction and stacked exposures?
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Cameron-Jung In reply to YugenM [2008-10-02 11:07:56 +0000 UTC]
thats with Dark frame subtraction ON although i did enhance the noise a bit so it was a lot brighter so you can clearly see it. I know Im gonna have to start stacking, but see in my mind i dont believe i should have to - not for the 2800 i paid for it last year. Id like to buy the D700 but ive seen some images with noise and im not sure whether its worth it after all - a big disappointment after waiting so long for the interest free deals to come around.
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NicholasJohn In reply to Cameron-Jung [2008-10-02 06:40:48 +0000 UTC]
Oh damn. I've done 25-35 minute exposures with my D50 and shitty and nice lenses. Never gotten a red band. Some of my best shots have turned out in a cold climate, however so this could be why. Anywhere from 40-55 degrees F. You think that would make a difference?
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Cameron-Jung In reply to NicholasJohn [2008-10-02 06:45:22 +0000 UTC]
apparently so, at least that seems to be the general idea ive gathered so far. I had the d80 before my d300 and i opted for the d300 in search of a more respectable result with my long exposures. Cant say i was too impressed with the quality improvement for the price difference - But what the hell lol ill just throw more money at the bastard.
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NicholasJohn In reply to Cameron-Jung [2008-10-02 07:19:23 +0000 UTC]
Try trails during the winter months and see what happens. I've had some decent results with a hell of a lot of ambient light...[link]
And that is with a terrible amount of ambient light.
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