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Ok, HERO: CF is taking a long time cos it's a fairly big project and even the graphics are taking me ages to do and I'm getting annoyed that I have no finished games. So this is was an experiment to see if I could make a graphically much simpler game that still looks appealing and fun to play. It's obviously very Sinclair Spectrum inspired and I tried to keep to the 2 colors per 8x8 block rule except for when the sprites are moving (no I wouldn't even want to attempt coding the colour clash 'feature' of the Speccy). The colors while similar to the Spectrum were actually taken from the equivalent colors of the CPC palette (though I don't think the Spectrum has a dark enough gray like I used for the chains, in fact all it's 'dark' colors are quite bright which was the main reason I used the CPC versions instead). Animation would be simple. Maybe 4 frames walking for most things and lil bits like candle flames and spinning coins are easy to do and add a nice sense of 'life' to things. I always liked old games use of black as it gave an interesting atmosphere to even 'cutesy' stuff like the Dizzy games.

Wouldn't actually take a lot of time at all to make this a real game. Could use my HERO engine cos it's got good platforming and collision stuff and the gamplay would just be typical platformer control the baby dragon, explore the castle, collect the coins and the stolen dragon eggs, dodge some enemies/hazards, flame other weaker enemies (which needs topping up now and then like ammo), your wings aren't strong enough to let you fly but they would allow a double jump.

And yes I know the knights are too short for their own castle and furniture but who cares. These kinds of games never made much sense with stuff like that.

Maybe if I do turn it into a real game I'll dress up the status bar somewhat. Old games used to have pretty elaborate status panels to make up for the sometimes small gameplay area. Not doing all that work now if I don't actually make it a real game but it would be something I'd do.

and yeah I know this kind of graphic style looks crappy if you didn't grow up in the eighties.
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Ringospoon [2021-05-10 20:00:50 +0000 UTC]

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jweinrub [2015-08-08 23:35:16 +0000 UTC]

Looks pretty cool.

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Lijj [2014-02-17 07:37:31 +0000 UTC]

That may be the best usage of that palette ever.

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Carnivius In reply to Lijj [2014-02-17 15:47:16 +0000 UTC]

Nah, I seen better looking Spectrum games.

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Soulflare3 [2011-07-10 07:01:30 +0000 UTC]

I would so play that game

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Carnivius In reply to Soulflare3 [2011-07-10 07:09:26 +0000 UTC]

Been working on this one but it looks much more NES than Spectrum now.

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Soulflare3 In reply to Carnivius [2011-07-10 08:23:02 +0000 UTC]

I would've played it like that anyway

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Link8312 [2011-07-09 11:43:21 +0000 UTC]

I never used a Spectrum, but this looks like once one accepts the limitation regarding 8*8 blocks, it could actually look better than the Amstrad CPC: Mode 1's pixel size with more colors!

Also, this allows some neat tricks: I remember reading that for one game, the developers smuggled some code/data in "unused" parts of the screen to compensate for the machine's low memory.

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Carnivius In reply to Link8312 [2011-07-09 11:51:13 +0000 UTC]

I dunno. The CPC may have only 4 colors in this same resolution but it can use them anywhere it likes. Check this other game shot I made using CPC's Mode 1 [link] Since I can use the colors anywhere and not have to worry about 8x8 limits I can give things more shape and depth which I prefer than the basic colors of the Spectrum. Anyways it doesn't matter...I've changed this game to NES specs. I may upload a pic soon of it. I'm much happier with the way it looks now.

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Link8312 In reply to Carnivius [2011-07-09 13:41:40 +0000 UTC]

I know mode 1 can be really beautiful. My favourite CPC game was in mode 1 (Prohibition), as well as the best CPC pictures I've seen from these days (the Bad Dudes vs. Dragon Ninja intro picture).

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Carnivius In reply to Link8312 [2011-07-09 15:10:16 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I like some Mode 1 stuff but I love some Mode 0 stuff too. I think it depends on the game style and atmosphere required really.

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ForgottenDemigod [2011-01-09 19:54:22 +0000 UTC]

Aww .
I'm not very fond of the spectrum palette (being a C64 guy), but it looks very nice, you got out a lot out of these colours.

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Carnivius In reply to ForgottenDemigod [2011-01-09 19:58:18 +0000 UTC]

thanks. I'm the opposite. I really dislike the C64 palette though impressed with some of the stuff people manage to do with it. I just find it far too low saturated and muddy and the games used to give me a headache when I was a kid.

I forgot about this project oddly enough. Cheers for reminding me.

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areliusmars [2010-09-17 07:51:46 +0000 UTC]

Old school gaming premises, they never made sense, but that didnยดt stop anyone from enjoying them!!

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blob1 [2010-09-10 07:36:48 +0000 UTC]

Always the same problem for me too:
Always hesitating in between a not too complex game project or an ambitious one that I always end up abandonning, but man... HERO:CF looks FANTASTIC. Reminding me so well of the bitmap brothers godly games. Try maybe to release a short basic demo just to get motivating feedback from people ? Dunno...

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Carnivius In reply to blob1 [2010-09-15 20:06:55 +0000 UTC]

thanks. i'm feeling somewhat better now i've moved to a more relaxing environment so who knows what i'll do with these now

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blob1 In reply to Carnivius [2010-09-17 05:08:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah environment plays a ton. I m way much more creative in trains or car for some reason.
Good luck and please share if you find some tricks for self motivation

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Carnivius In reply to blob1 [2010-09-17 14:49:01 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Badassbill [2010-09-03 01:50:46 +0000 UTC]

Not sure if you posted this on PJ or not. Brilliant.

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Carnivius In reply to Badassbill [2010-09-03 16:34:53 +0000 UTC]

heya. no i never posted it on PJ cos I just didn't think it was good enough. When I post on PJ I feel like it's got to be a certain quality which this isn't and wasn't meant to be having been just a quick mock up thing for a game idea. Come to think of it I don't think I've submitted anything on PJ in a very long time.

Thanks for the compliment on it.

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CyberDrone [2010-07-12 15:39:33 +0000 UTC]

hehe cool! i grew up on games like these! many an hours spent loading the game cassettes onto the computer! hehe

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Carnivius In reply to CyberDrone [2010-07-12 16:02:14 +0000 UTC]

ALL GAMES SHOULD COME ON CASSETTE TAPES AGAIN!!!

they're awesome. Clunk, whiiir, clunk, ok rewinded, press play and run... wheeeeeeeWOOOOOeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiwwwwwhheooeoeeeeeeeeee...

Hm, though it took like 5 mins to load up a game meant for 64k computers and such. How long would it take to load up a PS3 game if it was on cassette tape instead of blu ray? And how many tapes would be needed? hmmmm...

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CyberDrone In reply to Carnivius [2010-07-13 12:37:47 +0000 UTC]

hehe you would need a hell of a lot of cassette tapes these days! hehe and your only took 5 mins! well i had a BBC Mirco which you would spend hours loading the it would tell you the volume is set wrong and have to reload! hehe if you wanted to play a game on that you would have to plan ahead! loading it up in the day and hope you can play it in the evening if loaded right! hehe oh the good old days!! hehe

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Carnivius In reply to CyberDrone [2010-07-13 13:33:16 +0000 UTC]

yeah the Amstrads had the most reliable tape decks (built in unlike the Spectrum and C64), they didn't care what volume you loaded it (my parents were thankful for that, was bad enough they put up with the noise from the clicky joysticks) and yeah they often loaded in about 3 or 5 minutes plus some of the bigger ones needed to load a bit more after every level. They always worked (unless it was a totally crap tape to begin with). The longest loading game I had was Sultan's Maze which took 17 minutes to load. It was really crap though so it never got much play thankfully.

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CyberDrone In reply to Carnivius [2010-07-14 15:18:33 +0000 UTC]

hehe well my litte tape deck i used for loading the games on my computer was also my music tape deck! well was not the best thing to play music from now thinking about it! one speaker!! hehe thats why it was a pain to as i should have left the volume the same for loading games but as it was i was rocking out to some new tunes! well old now! hehe

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Carnivius In reply to CyberDrone [2010-07-14 15:20:55 +0000 UTC]

my items sold. disappointed that the fifth doctor with custom celery to stick on him only went for ยฃ3.99

fourth doctor unopened went for a lil over ยฃ12.

overall I made about ยฃ85 which means tomorrow I can go get my box set of 11 doctors.

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CyberDrone In reply to Carnivius [2010-07-14 15:24:57 +0000 UTC]

its a shame about the 5th Doctor! but good that your items sold! and you got enough cash for the 11 Doctors Box Set now! your have to take some photos with them all lined up with Amy and the TARDIS!

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Carnivius In reply to CyberDrone [2010-07-14 15:44:32 +0000 UTC]

yeah... if i walk into forbidden planet tomorrow, slap down ยฃ50 and find out they've sold my box set, I will tooorch the place
i best check the figures are all right too. i read somewhere on your gallery that someone got two first doctors? will check my box before I leave the store.

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CyberDrone In reply to Carnivius [2010-07-14 17:33:41 +0000 UTC]

well fingers crossed they will still have your 11 Doctors set! that you take the piss if they sold it! yeah 1 preson got 2 first doctors in the set! also some people have got there 8th Doctor out to find he has one leg longer than the other! but stay all you have to do is push it up to line the up!

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Vertigo-zero [2010-07-12 13:44:55 +0000 UTC]

Awesome! Even tho I dont really know the style (I'm from the nineties )

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Carnivius In reply to Vertigo-zero [2010-07-12 15:42:32 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. Yeah this is sorta british 8 bit. Spectrum/Amstrad era. Plenty 80's japanese love about with capcom doing Mega Man games in NES style for example. Just thought the old british stuff needs to make a comeback too cos I love the atmosphere brought on by the simplicity of the graphics.

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Vertigo-zero In reply to Carnivius [2010-07-12 20:46:15 +0000 UTC]

And I don't blame ya! Keep it up!

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scorpafied [2010-07-12 03:54:34 +0000 UTC]

i didn't grow up in the eighties, so i might not appreciate it as much as i should be. but i think its ok, i think from the bottom of the peice up to the blue background is good. it has the gray candles and so on. but from that point is were i stop appreciating it.

nice work!

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Crackers42 [2010-07-11 21:35:29 +0000 UTC]

I think it looks awesome, and gives me some hellacious flashbacks. Would love to play it when you're done

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Carnivius In reply to Crackers42 [2010-07-11 21:37:08 +0000 UTC]

guess i'd better turn it into a real game then. that's fine. it'll only be a small thing just to say hey I finished something. woooo!

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Crackers42 In reply to Carnivius [2010-07-11 21:43:23 +0000 UTC]

Wooooooo! Go for it! If you dare...

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Carnivius In reply to Crackers42 [2010-07-11 21:46:40 +0000 UTC]

i'll get right on it on tuesday as busy tomorrow.

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Crackers42 In reply to Carnivius [2010-07-11 21:47:34 +0000 UTC]

Well I didnt mean like, RIGHT NOW, but Tuesday works

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Carnivius In reply to Crackers42 [2010-07-11 21:56:38 +0000 UTC]

ok then!

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JangHeeJoon [2010-07-11 21:14:52 +0000 UTC]

This looks great so far, man. I'd definitely play this if I had a chance. I've been on a Castlevania kick lately, too. Loving the old school, man.

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Carnivius In reply to JangHeeJoon [2010-07-11 21:19:21 +0000 UTC]

cheers

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Squirrelsquid [2010-07-11 19:06:49 +0000 UTC]

that's awesome!

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Carnivius In reply to Squirrelsquid [2010-07-11 19:13:40 +0000 UTC]

thanks. and goddamn it's been a long time since I've had to try defining shapes without allowing myself to use different tones to give the impression of curves and details and such. And I had to hold myself back from overcomplicating things like I usually do especially with tiling. My main two game projects have far more complex tiling than this, which looks nice but it's so tedious to do the level layouts.

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JamesMorrow07 [2010-07-11 18:33:06 +0000 UTC]

The use of the ZX palette is nicely executed here! I like it!

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Carnivius In reply to JamesMorrow07 [2010-07-11 18:34:31 +0000 UTC]

it's actually the Amstrad CPC palette cos the dark colors in the Spectrum palette are still quite bright but it's used here in a Spectrum style because I wanted to just use 1 color per object.

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JamesMorrow07 In reply to Carnivius [2010-07-11 18:36:55 +0000 UTC]

Oohhh. Gotcha!

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Carnivius In reply to JamesMorrow07 [2010-07-11 18:40:31 +0000 UTC]

yeah the CPC palette comes out as having a mid range value of 127 which is right in the middle of 0-255. The Spectrum palette's mid value is 192 it seems so it's dark blue for example is 0,0,192 which is too bright really. However since every object is one color here I could make the game with pure white graphics for everything and have Game Maker color things in itself using a preset range of values and I can swap the values around during the game itself so it can have the 'true' spectrum color mode I suppose. It's easy to do.

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